🇬🇧 Testing 8 Xeon E5 V4: E5-2697A, E5-2690, E5-2687W, E5-2680, E5-2643, E5-1650, E5-2630 | R5 5600

[@nathangamble125]

I think it's impressive that the Xeons have better than 75% the gaming performance of the Ryzen 5 5600 despite effectively coming with free RAM and a motherboard for the same price.

[@OwlyEagle]

Its amazing

[@philscomputerlab]

Amazing roundup, thank you for the hard work!

[@Miyconst]

Thank you for the support and for sticking around Phil!

[@AlexHusTech]

*for gaming I was rooting for the 1650 V4 at the start because of the high clock speeds, after seeing the results I can understand that cache is more important, no wonder the X3D chips do very well!*

[@Miyconst]

Yup.. I am also very disappointed in E5-1650 V4.

[@rafradeki]

Also the 4.0ghz boost clock is fake, at least on windows. Because of some vulnerability, intel disabled tbm 3.0 on broadwell-e and skylake-x and didn't bother fixing it because they were old and most people would either use overclockable i7 or xeon on linux

[@JamesDeSimone-im7tz]

@@Miyconst It doesn't do a bad job. In the US it's going for 16USD. It only boasts to 3.5Ghz on all core in my experience.

[@carlolalattacosterbosa5821]

Thanks! can't wait too see the x99 pr9 review aswell... ;) cheers from Italy

[@SoliNolis]

Banger vid as always! I got myself a 2630 v4 for 3$ and it holds up surprisingly ok, low temps, low power consumption (hovers around 25w, not sure if sensors faulty) but its just what I needed, and it pairs quite well with my rx 580. Not even sure if i need to upgrade to 2680 v4 since i just play a couple of esport games and a few coding on the side, but for now I'm more than satisfied with it. Xeons are still alive in 2024! Lets keep spreading the word of xeons lul

[@And10686]

my guy right there, also landed a 2630 v4 for 2 euros just to test a mobo and i might use it for my new office pc build,

[@rllydude3600]

miyconst doesn't look but he sees miyconst doesn't think but he knows miyconst doesn't move but he's everywhere bravo video as always, the deep emotionless stare into my soul is probably the thing that differs you from other tech youtubers (other than ofcourse you making reviews on hardwares that people can relate to)

[@skilledcamman4752]

bro what

[@berin13]

LMAO

[@EvilEng9]

Wow! So much work was put into this (as always) and it shows. Thank you for the great content!! So good that I watched it twice. :)

[@garykildall4111]

Great video, love your channel! Hard to argue my E5-2680 V4 is the best after this but still holding up well in a secondary rig I made dirt cheap from a used Dell T5810 and a Radeon RX 6600. Works great as a 2nd gaming PC for the living room at 1080p. Can play basically any triple A game after tweaking the settings. New games especially love high core counts, though 14 is high enough to do better with HT off 99% of the time.

[@Miyconst]

The thing is that you don't need the best. Good is enough in 99% of the cases.

[@julianfiacconi709]

Excellent video, as most of yours are. I have the e5-2680v4 (bought 2 years ago for 40 usd) in an Asus X99 A-ll motherboard with 128Gb of ECC memory. It is a workhorse and has never let me down….I’m not a gamer. Thanks for all that you share with us.

[@hitodium]

i think 2680v4 is the best bang for the buck

[@Duciousness]

The cat's timing was impeccable. 😂 Excellent video as always. 💪🏾 You're an inspiration bro.

[@Miyconst]

Thanks for the support. The cats are amazing. 😸😸🐈🐈

[@THiNK103088]

Awesome stuff! This will definitely help me and many others in building budget builds!

[@nldyz545]

Thabk for your video. Exactly what I was looking for!

[@michelbernardotillwitz7489]

Great video, straight to the point, helped a Lot to make my decision on wich zeon i should buy.

[@knifemind]

Great comparison. My main PC is 5600, so this was super helpful. While not the best, I picked up a 2680v4 bundle recently for $75 USD (mobo, CPU, RAM) for a secondary PC. It's hard to beat that price, and for my use case will still be useful for some years.

[@Miyconst]

In most cases you don't need the best, the best value usually makes more sense.

[@AvelardoLopez]

Thank you, your video helped me make some purchasing decisions. Thank you for doing all of this research. Really do appreciate it.

[@InfamousAMH]

I really appreciate these videos as there isn't a lot of reliable documentation that gives you a reliable real-world comparison of the Xeons. Especially the E5-V3/V4 series. These videos should be put in a museum.

[@brachisaurous]

picked a 2697 v3 for 10, got a mr9a pro board for 50, flashed a huananzhi bios, undervolted by 90mv and got 120+ fps in Shadow of Tomb Raider 1080p high setting all cores boosting to 3.5 ghz! these xeons with chinese boards are no doubt at the top of price to performance charts.

[@SoliNolis]

dang whered u get the board nice deal on that

[@brachisaurous]

@@SoliNolis ali express?

[@tensebeastgaming8527]

What GPU? Got a 2670 v3 and a 2070 averaging 126fps 1080p high in sottr in-game benchmark. 2133 ddr4 running at CL12. I’d like to see how much better the higher clocked higher core count cpus are in the x99 range or if there are diminishing returns for games once you get to a certain point

[@brachisaurous]

@@tensebeastgaming8527 managed to pickup a cheap rx 5700 (reference model) and its at stock settings. ram 2133 cl15. going to do the washer mod on the 5700 and flash it with an xt bios and will tighten ram timings, although imho that has miniscule impact. i reckon i can push SOTTR benchmark to 135 fps

[@tensebeastgaming8527]

@@brachisauroussuper impressive! Definitely a measurable increase over the lower clocked 2670 I have, are you running in quad channel on the mr9a? I have the cheaper ‘zsus’ board that only allows dual channel 😞

[@jaredcapps7788]

I have an E5-2667 V4 with RTX 2060 super on a QD4 with 32gb of 2133. I am very happy! I haven't tested too many games but Doom Eternal runs 4k almost consistent on Ultra with ray tracing. I watched his show to help me pick what I thought was a sweet spot for what I wanted, so thanks @Miyconst

[@Miyconst]

You can try to OC your memory to DDR4-2400.

[@jaredcapps7788]

​@@MiyconstI will look up how today. Was wondering if I could

[@SAMUELLHENRIQUE]

Thanks from brasil 🤝

[@Miyconst]

Thanks from Sweden.

[@bavarians6]

Interesting results!! I tested the 2690 v4, 2667 v4, and 1650 v4 with a 3060 Ti at 3440x1440 and found there was essentially no difference between the 2690 and 2667, whereas the 1650 had some bad frame pacing that brought down the average a little. I also tested in different games though. I did find that the Ryzen 5 5600 is the better CPU across the board, but it only stands out in a couple games. All in all, I had very similar results, even at a higher resolution. I was hoping you’d have the E5-2689 v4 in this roundup too; I saw that you purchased it on Black Friday. I’ve been eyeing that CPU just to see if it’s better.

[@Miyconst]

I only tried to purchase E5-2689 V4, the seller cancelled my order and doubled the price.

[@beansnrice321]

Wow, what an amazing amount of work for one man. Also quite surprising results! I just can't get over how much the 2643 smoked the 1650. I guess it goes to show you how much a little extra cache matters but I think it could also just be that the 26xx series seems to have a beefier memory controller than the 16xxs. I'm also quite surprised by the 2090 but I suppose I shouldn't be. It is a fine cpu it just seemed to have odd hitching for me in unpredictable situations. I suppose the clocks core count and cache all do add up. Especially in F1 23 but even in counterstrike. Maybe it's just my crumby Dell motherboard, lol. All of that being said the poor performance of the 2687W blew me away. I didn't expect much out of it but was kind of hoping to be surprised in a good way, not underwhelmed. All in all the main metrics that I see that make or break a cpu for a game are(in no particular order); core count, clock speed, uncore speed and cache. Uncore seems to stay pretty consistent for a alot of these cpus, which I think explains the Avatar results. That or the gpu was the bottle neck. If I were to describe the 2089, I'd say it's a bit better than the 2667 where 2667 shines and is slightly better or worse than the 2090 where it shines, depending on the task. Cinebench it would be slightly worse but it's better in most games. I bet F1 would be better with the 2090 though. It's weird, the 2689 gives me a clock speed of about 3.68 most of the time but when I'm playing Cyberpunk with full raytracing, It drops down to 3.3 ghz. Thank you for this truly monumental benchmark! =D

[@Miyconst]

That's a huge summary you have got but I was surprised with the results just like you did. Nvidia implementation of Ray Tracing is heavily relying on CPU performance so don't be surprised about CP.

[@apfel997]

Interestingly the 2690 v4 went up in price quite recently. Got mine for only 25$ a few months ago. I think it was overlooked by the v3 TU models a long time but now many people saw its a really good option overall with almost matching the fastest v3 TU CPUs in gaming without modifying anything.

[@Miyconst]

Yup, that's unfortunate. E5-2643 V3 also doubled in price.

[@zzzide]

I've been using the 2697A V4 and I'm pretty amazed by its performance and thermals. I'm cooling it with a Wovibo 6 pipe, also from Aliexpress, with low RPM on the fans to minimize noise, and it does not go above 50 degrees when stressed.

[@12345evgen12345]

So, are you using for games or job?

[@abdullahalhalabi1]

Many thanks, I like the way you comparing

[@carlolalattacosterbosa5821]

great review and summary, as always! i think a ryzen 5 3600x could be a great contender aswell, since is way more cheap (second hand) thank a r5 5600...

[@Miyconst]

That's very true. R5 3600 is a very viable option, even new, not only used.

[@D71Gaming]

Love my E5 2667 V4.

[@marcosvinicios5139]

Excelent video! very good job !!!

[@jb678901]

Quite pleased with my E5-2696v3 ($45) running turbo-unlocked (-50/-50mV offset) on a HZ X99TF, with 48GB DDR4 3200 Corsair Vengeance (2133 MHz, 4 ch, XMP / 11-12-12-24-36), paired to undervolted RTX 2080Ti. Scores just over 14000 on CB R23 (multi). Runs fairly cool and never exceeds 52C at full load on air (20C ambient). System has remained a stable workhorse for over 1 year and I have no plans to upgrade for at least another 2-3 years.

[@RealTechGeek]

Finally you got an new video 😂 Thank you!

[@JayzBeerz]

Great video. But I only buy the 105W TDP chips like the 2650V4 and 2660V4. The reason is most of these Chinese boards have cheap VRM’s.

[@maitotechlab9035]

I think the 2640v4 would be a better option than the 30v4, it doesnt cost much more and has slightly higher clock, but my sugestion would be to go for the 80v4 as it has an even higher clock, few more cores and dont cost much. 90v4 and 67v4 are very good cpus but theyr prices skyrocketed in the last 6 months or so, i got both of them for not much more than 20 dollars. Very good video btw, thanks for your time and effort.

[@Miyconst]

Yes, 2640 V4 and 2680 V4 are viable alternatives as well.

[@lookitsrain9552]

I regret not picking up 2 2667 v4s when they were 25 USD each a few months ago for sure.

[@Stryder_The_Nite_Owl]

Excellent video as always!

[@alilokhd4638]

For a typical scenario where i play at 1440p 60fps mainly action/adventure games (sometimes others, and i hate eSports games). Also i work with the xeon as a developer i think xeon and x99 still delivers a solid option for now I'll stick with it until i see if the rumors of lunar/meteor lake for desktop arrives, don't wanna spend over and over. Thanks for the video and thanks to anyone who has read it.

[@undertone2472]

Great and informative video.

[@maou5025]

Thanks to quad channel 2650v4 can go head to head with my 5700x in Starfield lol. All cores are used nicely too.

[@Miyconst]

I didn't know people actually play the game, I thought it was a loading screen simulator. 🤣

[@jamesgarrett3000]

I LOVE the 2690V4, great option.

[@jamesgarrett3000]

So I've given this video some more thought. the industry is heavily leaning to multi-core/multi-threaded performance moving forward. I think that for the V4 CPUs the e5 2667v4 is the most direct core-to-core competitor for the ryzen 5600. the extra cache separates it from the 1650v4, and it's clear that it helps in FPS. So, the e5 2690v4 is pretty much (not exactly, losing a slight bit of clock speed) an e5 2667v4 with an extra 8 cores sitting in idle most of the time. it doesn't deliver the same FPS as ryzen, but if you're getting even 75% of the performance most of the time in games, then you still have 8 whole cores and 16 threads waiting to be used for other things. I think we can expect these extra cores to come into play very soon. I'd love to see a revisit in a few years time.

[@mufeedco]

Thanks. Great comparison. Time to order 2 * E5-2690 V4.

[@BrickTextures-hm1uy]

Rendering?

[@is-sam]

If it's for gaming just get 1 and a 1 socket motherboard

[@Hairybarryy]

I can see why people were running 2695 v3s back in 2016. It was faster than most cpus on the market with 14 cores. 2697 v3 was too expensive at the time. Crazy how things have changed.

[@Morrow420]

I just got a 2697A V4 for 35$. crazy prices.

[@Hairybarryy]

@Morrow420 big time, I paid 320 for a 2695 v3 super early engineering sample in winter of 2016. It was really special as it only worked with DDR3 instead of DDR4. I sold it when they started dumping 2696 v3 QS on ebay for $600 in spring of 2017. I still have that chip to this day,

[@rafliard]

Pretty resources you got there of vary amount of x99 cpus, do you have power draw data of these x99 cpus with various states like during idle, workload and such? I'm interested to start my own homelab but baffled with choices either using skylake i5 6600 or x99 based v3/v4 cpus. Thank you for putting your finding into public domain!

[@Miyconst]

Home lab with an i5-6600? That CPU is barely capable of any calculation. Get a used Dell, HP, Lenovo workstation and install E5-2680 V4.

[@rafliard]

@@Miyconst oh excuse me forgot to specify my workload, the homelab going to serve media needs (e.g jellyfin) and occasional backup unlike doing ANSYS simulation or something like compiling. Both going to run headless too. The power draw is my concern, if I go with i5 Skylake I can use igpu to accelerate videos transcoding and for x99 setup require dgpu (going for 1050). Thanks.

[@geort45]

Is there any other smaller motherboard that you'd recommend for a 2696 V3? Thanks for all this info BTW

[@Miyconst]

I am not aware of any mATX Chinese X99 board that I could confidently recommend for E5-2697 V3.

[@geort45]

@@Miyconst Thank you :)

[@サマセット-u9c]

Valuable video

[@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE]

Great video Konstantine! Those V4 X99 Xeons would be amazing if we could use the Turbo Boost Unlock hack.

[@benjaminjesusfarinabeiza8505]

Hello friend, I have a question. The thing is that I have an Atermiter V201 motherboard with the turbo boost hack activated + a Xeon E5 2640v3 cpu, and I want to change to a Xeon E5 2680v4 cpu (I know that hack doesn't work on v4), the issue is that wouldn't there be any incompatibility or performance issues if I put a Xeon 2600v4 on that board with the turbo boost unlocked? Greetings.

[@akashi2921]

gotta set it back to og bios bro so the v4 work

[@AdmV0rl0n]

Prior to Covid, we had a purple patch for making bargain game rigs. That ALL died during covid, and its only recently where bargain bangers are on the menu. Pairing this kit with cheap / valid RX 580s - now has us returning to where we can make excellent bangers for the bucks. And that's simply great news for people who need value boxes. X99 rolls on!! :)

[@Miyconst]

It's also possible to find GTX 1660S and even RTX 2060 for a really good price. So yeah, ultra budget configs are a thing once again.

[@deyeatdapoopoo7582]

There was something wrong with the clock speeds on the 2690v4. That is the CPU I installed on my HP Z440 workstation and it runs at 3.2GHz under fully multi-threaded workloads including Cinebench R23, not 2.9GHz.

[@Miyconst]

Would you be able to share a screen recording of the R23 run? Please.

[@spiderdigit]

hey i am planning to get a 2690 v4 with z440. is your problem solved or not. should i pick 2690v4 or not

[@spiderdigit]

@@Miyconst sir is this guy's issue solved. i want to make this build for gaming is this clock speeds thingy gonna effect my gaming?

[@ww4102]

I have similar troubles with 2690 v3. On win 10 the max clock speed is limited, while on linux it is way better. I disabled Hyperthreading to get full 3.5 ghz clock speed on Windows. Better temperatures now, so it isnt that bad with 12 cores and higher clock speeds.

[@hitodium]

@@ww4102 the max clock speed is limited to TDP. You should run test cinebench and open CPUZ and see what TDP it is. I guess it is limited to TDP. You can try undervolt it and see if clock change or not

[@thetechcorner7204]

The 1650 v4 can be found for almost half of the price of a 2643 v4, which is pretty good. Also, should’ve included the 1660 v4 to compare with the 2667 v4 :)

[@Miyconst]

Yeah, E5-2643 V4 is priced absolutely unreasonably at the moment. When I bought it, it costed cheaper than E5-1650 V4.

[@NJ-bh7yk]

Good video mate but I got a question, does hyper threading in the E5 2697 V3 comes enabled by default or do I have to set it up?

[@Miyconst]

It's enabled by default.

[@NJ-bh7yk]

@@Miyconst ay that's great, what about InSpectre? what is and does it affect performance?

[@jaredcapps7788]

I think you are taking about the CPU safety features. You can turn them off or on.Specter and Meltdown protection.

[@NJ-bh7yk]

@@jaredcapps7788 if you look carefully the xeon specs during the benchmarks you can see that it says InSpectre: Applied. That's what I mean.

[@jaredcapps7788]

@@NJ-bh7yk it's a program that turns the security off for better performance on some cpu's. I have it off on two older devices and they have super powers compared to stock

[@And10686]

great work as always. one question: by enabling or disabling the hyper threading would have made any difference in the game performance or would've been insignificant to mention ?

[@Miyconst]

Mostly insignificant to mention. In some games 1% lows would be higher in some averages would be lower.

[@tyrellwreleck4226]

Should i revert my bios to stock bios when upgrading to v4? Or it doesn't matter?

[@Miyconst]

Yes, better to revert. Many people report that TBU BIOS works just fine with V4 CPUs but I had cases when V4 Xeon would not boot with modded BIOS.

[@techtriage]

So Miyconst, do you have any practice with the X99 Machinist D8 Max, I have both a set of 2697 v3's and 2660 V4's I've tested and it works good, Windows 11 too. Just curious if you've poked it yet.

[@Miyconst]

I have seen the motherboard but it has awful BIOS and price so I see no reason to bother with it.

[@is-sam]

I have the 2697 v3 and it works like a charm with your TBU patch, thanks btw! I have reduced the number of cores to 8 to lower power consumption since I only have a 550w PSU, is it worth changing the PUS to a 650 or even 750 and use the extra cores, or is it not necessary for gaming?

[@Miyconst]

Only you can tell whether it's worth it or not. It really depends on GPU you have, games, settings, and resolution you play at.

[@christophegroulx7816]

Do you think that Chinese manufacturers will make LGA 3647 motherboard any time soon? The 2011v3 platform is starting to show its age.

[@truckerallikatuk]

Would be nice if they did... but I think Intel cut them off from chipset supplies, so they'd have to rely on harvested chips.

[@Miyconst]

I don't think it's happening anytime soon. China is marching into imperialistic madness with the "great emperor xi", so they are cut off from the necessarily technologies.

[@jorgeauilio7113]

Hi, how are you, would the Xeon E5 2697V3 be a choice to use the PR9? And in your opinion, which is the most powerful processor in the V3 line? I currently use the E5-2640 V3 with an RTX 3070, it is not taking the graphics card well.

[@Miyconst]

X99-PR9 review is now live, so welcome to watch it and make your decision.

[@Carrington1961]

I got the e5 2687w v4 what power consumption is like, what motherboard is needed is rs9 good enough?

[@Miyconst]

I would say MR9A is a good option.

[@4lbanete]

Nice video as always, long live the xeons. What bios should i use with Huananzhi x99 TF v1 and 2697v3 ? Im happy using the F8 one with -70/-50 mv, but I try to enable rebar with no success as I cant see any PCI options in bios settings. Thanks for any help you can bring and ofc for all your videos. Greetings from Spain ❤

[@Miyconst]

The V1 Huananzhi X99-TF/F8 has Good BIOS from iEngineer. You can use it.

[@ericreid8111]

Thank you

[@AdventureChannel-sb8tt]

Hey nice video man, i want to ask is the i7 6900k or e5 2690 v4 better for gaming?

[@Miyconst]

The i7 is better if you overclock the shit out of it, otherwise it will be faster only in a few selected games.

[@AdventureChannel-sb8tt]

@Miyconst thanks for the response man. Do you recommend the 2690v4 for a budget gaming pc?

[@Miyconst]

I do, but it all depends on how much extra you would have to pay for an AM4/LGA1700 setup.

[@AdventureChannel-sb8tt]

@@Miyconst like a ryzen 5 2600 will be better?

[@Miyconst]

No, you need Ryzen 5 3600 or Core i3-12100F.

[@CorbuloBladek]

Nice info. Did you think to test E5 2699 V4 or E5 2696 V4? Nowadays I have E5 2678 V3. Should I change it for another one? What do you recomend me? (Is my 2nd PC having a TF using 64GB 2400 Mhz)

[@Miyconst]

I recommend staying with E5-2678 V3 until you can move to AM4/5 or LGA 1700.

[@CorbuloBladek]

@@Miyconst Since my main computer is 13600kf, I thought about having the huananzhi as a low cost workstation. But 2678 V3 it would be enough?

[@MathOliveira931]

I'm deciding between the 2690 v3 or 2698 v3. I can't find any comparisons between them. Do you think that despite the 98's more cores, the 90 has performed better in games? Which one do you suggest to purchase, not considering the price?

[@Miyconst]

E5-2698 V3 has more cache so it will be better for gaming. To get the same clock frequency you just need to disable some CPU cores.

[@MathOliveira931]

@@Miyconst there is almost no gaming testing for the 2698 v3. Do you think it will have any advantages compared to the 2697 v3? Whether in fps or compatibility with better GPUs

[@Miyconst]

@@MathOliveira931 next to none, these CPUs are very similar when it comes to the gaming performance.

[@blatant6500]

Planning to get an 2697AV4 for my next build. Will use mainly for productivity and also for gaming, so the lower power consumption when comparing against the 2697v3 makes it a no brainer. Also what would be the best option for an microatx motherboard?

[@Miyconst]

I would strongly suggest you get an ATX board with better VRM, most mATX boards have shitty VRM and Huananzhi X99-QD4 quality has significantly degraded according to the latest reports.

[@blatant6500]

@@Miyconst i see. Do you think that an MR9A would be a good option? Or maybe you have other cheaper options that you can recommend?

[@Miyconst]

MR9A (Pro) is my go-to option but it's not flawless either. I do get reports about defective units every now and then but way less often compared to X99-QD4.

[@blatant6500]

@@Miyconst i see, the one i was talking about was the non pro. Cuz importation fees are pretty Crazy here. Basically for products with the price of the pro i pay UP to 97% in importation fees. And UP to MR9A ( non h ) is only 17%. So she's the Max i can pay, maybe in a really good promo?

[@Miyconst]

Nothing from AliExpress is guaranteed. Whichever X99 motherboard you pick - I have several reports about defective units and ignorant sellers. MR9A is good enough to give it a try but nothing is guaranteed, of course.

[@dcdetectingpt9094]

Like

[@nicay_14]

I'm looking for an upgrade in my hp z440. As far as I know overclocking requires a lot of workarounds and is overall not worth it with the extra temps. What cpu would you recommend I get with a 6700xt?

[@Miyconst]

E5-2690 V4 would be my pick.

[@nicay_14]

@@Miyconst sorry to bother you again, looking at the local market rn and I can snag a 2690v3 for €30, is it way worse than the v4?

[@Sk0die]

@@nicay_14 I'd spend the extra few dollars and go for the V4. Its not alot worse but for a 10% price increase your getting 2 more cores, 4 more threads, and an extra 5MB of Cache. For the minuscule price increase the upgrade is worth it.

[@white18389]

Im on 2697v3 now, I think this is the limit for this platform for me, the next step is to move to a newer platform

[@Miyconst]

Very true. If you already have E5-2697 V3 with TBU there is nowhere to move, only upgrade the whole platform.

Are the xeons still a good deal when you consider power cost? Someone recently reviewed a Chinese motherboard which comes with a mobile i9 (Erying i9-11900H). $160 with TDP 45w. Of course, you have a better handle on overall cost of the Xeon systems.

[@Miyconst]

I recommend to stay away from all ERYING products. The quality is just too random and too bad.

@@Miyconst Thanks. Appreciated.

[@filippopirontilubrano7738]

Hi Miyconst, I have a Xeon E5 2680-V4 and looking at Intel Xeon List, it says base frequency: 2.4 Ghz and TurboBoost: 3.3Ghz, Does it mean that this xeon is susceptible to be turboboosted? I asked you this because I always thought that only Xeon V3 are possible of being turboboosted

[@Miyconst]

Turbo boost and Turbo boost unlock are different things. Turbo boost works with all Xeons, unlock is only possible with V3s. Unlock means that all cores together boost up to the max clock as long as TDP allows.

[@husseinkurdi7625]

Hi man i know the effort and the hours spent to make this!! Anyway i have 2 questions: i got 2687w but still didn't arrive is 2697a far better choice?? Sad i thought computing is still about frequency rather than so much cores... and my second question: where is 2697 normal v4 and 2699a v4 to complete this collection once and for all hahaha?? I strongly think 2699a would kill all of them even comparable to 10700k from how heavily games are depending on threads now, what do u think?

[@manaphylv100]

The E5-2689 v4 is great, if you can find one at a decent price. The QS version is sometimes available on Taobao for around 320 RMB. The Ryzen 5600 is pretty much irrelevant now, after the recent price drop of the i5-12400F and 12490F in China. There's also the i5-10600KF for much less, and the i9-11900KF for a little more (their power efficiency is horrendous, but LGA 1200 boards are cheap, and nobody runs their CPU continuously at 100% anyway).

[@Miyconst]

Eh.. we are in a very different market situation.. here in Sweden the LGA 1200 boards are either overpriced or simply unavailable. Core i5-12400 is still about 30-40$ more expensive than R5 5600 and requires aftermarket cooler. Cheapest possible H610/B660 board is also 20-30$ more than a decent B450, so yeah, here R5 5600 and R7 5700X are very much relevant.

[@manaphylv100]

Really? Over here, it's the Ryzen CPUs that are overpriced, and a decent AM4 board often goes for over $100. In comparison, LGA 1200 boards are less than $50, because nobody has good CPUs for them. So, the cheapest option for me is buying an LGA 1200 board locally, and either an i5-10600KF or i9-11900KF from China.

[@aldisskudra3687]

@@Miyconst Why 12400 needs aftermarket cooler? stock one provides more than enough cooling for any possible use case

[@damianosenesi5492]

Hello and thank you! Can you recommend a good Xeon x99 processor that can be used primarily for a Proxmox server and occasional gaming (I have an RX 570)? I would need a CPU that consumes very little power at idle

[@Miyconst]

I can recommend Dell T5810 Workstation from eBay for your use case.

[@damianosenesi5492]

@@Miyconst thank you again. :) I already have a z440 with an e5-1650-V3. However, with only Proxmox and OMV running, the power consumption is around 40 watts. A bit too much. I was thinking of choosing a less power-hungry processor to reduce energy consumption. Could the 2650l be a good solution?

[@Miyconst]

@@damianosenesi5492 I really doubt that you will get anything lower than 40 watts with LGA 2011-3 platform, regardless of the CPU.

[@jf2318]

To upgrade my 2666v3 to a v4, which one would you recommend? Thanks 👍

[@Miyconst]

Neither, upgrade your platform. If you badly want to replace the CPU then E5-2690/97/97A V4.

[@habib_khan]

Can you please guide if the E5-2697 v3 will hold up well without the bios modification to unlock max turbo on all cores? I am thinking to buy a Z440 with a E5 1660 v3 or 2697 v3. Comparing benchmarks, the 2697v3 clears the 1660v3 overall with a little bit of sacrifice in single-threaded performance. I am confused now since with the mod the 2697v3 would run at round 3.1 ghz on all cores. The 1660v3 should run at close to 3.5 on all cores I believe but I couldn't find concrete info. Both are almost same TDP so makes sense for the 1660 to run at max freq with 6 cores less. So stock chips what do I get 1660 v3 or 2697 v3? I don't wanna loose too much of the ST performance.

[@Miyconst]

If you don't plan to implement TBU - buy a V4 CPU. It's as simple as that.

[@habib_khan]

@@Miyconst Thank you for the quick reply. I can go 1650 v4. Is the ST performance gain worth it over losing cores? I'll be doing some deep learning and development in Unreal which can certainly make use of more cores but need solid single-core performance as well.

[@marcusviniciusdeoliveirami2462]

Boa tarde, muito obrigado pela atenção e um abraço

[@dexsters5643]

I was really hoping better scores from the 1650v4. But it is what it is. My younger sisters computer has e5-1630V4 with X99-P4 with GTX1060 6gb. However i have to ask which cpu should i use. Right now with the X99 rampage v extreme im using I7-5930K at 4.5ghz but soon im getting a Matx chinise board. What should i use in that board? The E5-2697v3 with turbo unlock or 5930k?

[@Miyconst]

Only you can decide what is right for you 😀. Look at the benchmark results and pick the one that makes sense for you.

[@dexsters5643]

@@Miyconst its hard to pick :D but thanks anyway

[@terracraft6289]

for some reason in cinebench 2024 I get really poor results every other benchmark is fine except for 2024 I have dual xeon E5 2699 V4's and I only score around 1100 pts which is really low two CPUs and what was weird was the fact that they were running at the right turbo boost at 2.8GHz on all cores and CPU's were at 100% so I am so confused on why the result is so bad is it because of windows server 2016 possibly? or another issue?

[@andrewbushell9577]

Have you tested E5-2643 V3 with turbo boost unlocked? What AliExpress motherboard would you recommend for gaming?

[@blackknight50277621]

2680v4 going down to 14$ where I live Can't find 2667v4 tho With HT off, spectre fix off is it good for games such as CS2 or PUBG??

[@sportylk54]

Hi, I'm thinking to build Xeon build and I'm new to this platform.. Should I go with E5 2680 V4 or E5 2697 V3. I don't know about turbo boost or anything. and I hope to use this build for gaming and some software development stuff. Please help me to choose. Thank you

[@Miyconst]

E5-2680 V4.

[@buckshot.522]

is it worth upgrading from 2670 V3 (unlocked) to 2690 V4? Will there be any improvement in gaming performance?

[@Miyconst]

It really depends on your GPU, games, resolution, settings, RAM, in general, I wouldn't bother.

[@bavarians6]

I'm wondering about the E5-2687W v4... it's one of the few v4 Xeons with a 160W or higher TDP, so maybe the Machinist board is power limiting it even in single core turbo? Very strange behavior in any case.

[@Miyconst]

Yeah. With no other motherboard to verify CPU's behavior I can't confirm or deny these results.

[@R18_Radek]

@@Miyconst It's not a mobo or CPU issue, not sure why Cinebench doesn't really use single core for test. Just open task manager, change CPU graph to logical view and run single core test. Maybe this is on purpose for MP ratio results?

[@CuriousGamer022]

Is it worth upgrading from the xeon 2680 v3 to the 2690 v4 for gaming??

[@Miyconst]

It really depends on what game and what you, in general - no.

[@CuriousGamer022]

@@Miyconst I mostly play racing games and the new boxing game called undisputed and battlefield games that's about it

[@Miyconst]

@@CuriousGamer022 well, check your CPU and GPU usage during gaming, if GPU is underloaded - E5-2690 V4 will help a bit.

[@CuriousGamer022]

@@Miyconst well I haven't put it altogether yet as waiting on the gpu,I'm going with the intel arc a750 which Is similar to the rx 6600xt but with a little more power

[@oscarsparks2875]

Is there a performance difference when using x79 motherboards over x99?

[@Miyconst]

X79 and X99 are two different platforms, the performance difference is rather large.

[@oscarsparks2875]

@@Miyconst does the x99 have better performance?

[@someguywithmtndew5691]

@@oscarsparks2875yes V3 V4 cpus are better than V2

[@tatas6635]

hello from greece i am currently watching this video on a E5-2687wv4 and all i can say is that it is decent for 50 euro

[@Miyconst]

It's decent for sure. If you don't mind, could you please check the clock frequency during Cinebench R23 single core test?

[@tatas6635]

@@Miyconst it is mainly 3284.12MHz (99.52x33) but jumps to 3,383.68MHz(99.52x34) every 10sec and every 2-3sec it goes to 3,483.16MHz(99.52x35)

[@muhammadahmar7568]

I need your guidance, Xeon E5-2696 V4 vs E5-2697A-V4, is there huge difference in performance? the reviews a see, Xeon E5-2696 V4 is better, what is your opinion on this

[@Miyconst]

E5-2696 V4 is a better CPU but its price is totally outrageous.

[@esra_erimez]

I'm genuinely curious if there was a reason you didn't look at the E5-2699 v3 or v4?

[@Miyconst]

Only because of the price. The V4 version is heavily overpriced and the V3 version is worse than E5-2696 V3 that I have already tested multiple times.

[@acseone5731]

What's best cpu in V3 cpus no matter the price ?

[@nathangamble125]

@@acseone5731 2696 v3 if you need maximum mulithreaded performance, 1680 v3 if you need maximum per-thread performance. Despite having a lower number, the 2696 v3 is faster than the 2697 and 2698 v3. The E5 2696 v3 is identical to the E5 2699 v3, except that the 2696 v3 works with both DDR3 and DDR4, while the 2699 v3 only works with DDR4.

[@THiNK103088]

If we are talking budget wise, do you think the Ryzen 5 2600 will perform signficantly better than these xeon 5 cpu?

[@Miyconst]

No, many of these Xeons are probably going to outperform R5 2600 but if the Ryzen is cheap it still might be a better choice.

[@끼익-w9x]

Are there any ways to overclock 1660v3 or 1650 v3 with z87 chipset x99 chinese motherboard?

[@Miyconst]

There are some rumours that the latest X99-QD4 supports overclocking but I can't yet confirm that.

[@Carrington1961]

What is e5 2687w v4 power consumption like, someone is selling 4 for 15 euros a pop and im considering buying one

[@Miyconst]

15 Euros each or all four? For that price I would buy it. The power consumption is on the level of E5-2667 V4.

[@Carrington1961]

@@Miyconst 15 each, but AliExpress sale cost is like 60, 15 euro+ p9 motherboard 38 euros+ ram , is a very cheap combination

[@ksolo614]

Can you put want cpu cooler you are using in the description?

[@Miyconst]

Sure. It was Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo for most CPUs except E5-2687W V4 and R5 5600.

[@marianistefanoj]

Sold my R9 3900 + B550M kit and got a MR9A + 2680 V3 for about less than 10% of the price that i sold my Ryzen kit, to do the same stuff, i think was a great deal :D, let's be happy using it now :D

[@Noiconnotag]

Any of these x99 boards and CPUs compatible with win11 ?

[@Miyconst]

No.

[@yuralmspw4911]

I run win11 perfectly fine on Machinist MR9A with 2650v4 (purchased ssd with preinstalled win11). It updates w/o problem as well. You can use preinstalled ssd with win11, or use modified distro that does not check requirements (TPM) during installation.

[@Lookingformorefun]

When I played alan wake 2 on 2630v3 (turbo boost enabled) it was more playable. Same with cyberpunk. But this cpu failed to provide good fps in some parts of starfield and ratchet and clank.

[@arckhriz]

Conclusion the number of cores does not matter, the ips of each processor matters You should have put it at higher resolutions...it is an incredible GPU to see how processors with many more cores cause problems at high resolutions, but not the R5 5600.

[@Miyconst]

It's a CPU test not a GPU test, higher resolution makes little to no sense in this case.

[@ReZG]

E5-2630v4 and 85w in relation to the consumed power seems to be a very powerful and interesting processor. E5-2640 would probably be faster and it's only 5w more.

[@Carrington1961]

Building pc for friend e5 2697 v3 or ryzen 5500?

[@Miyconst]

For what purpose with what budget? In general, Ryzen is the obvious winner.

[@Carrington1961]

@@Miyconst budget for entire pc is around 600, for gaming, how kuch slower is ryzen 5500 than 5600

[@Miyconst]

@@Carrington1961 you can watch Hardware Unboxed videos, they have a good comparison.

[@bekim137]

My 2667 v2 its doing great even today 😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@Miyconst]

That's a legendary CPU.

[@shephusted2714]

things are definitely shifting to newer cpu - and prices should drop more with advent of zen5 - newer cpu have much better efficiency and lack of motherboards for older xeons hurt - you can always get a z440 mb v2 for 50 buck/euros - that is probably best bet and then upgrade to am4 later - the older xeons are still good for small biz and cheap ram really helps- ddr3 for z420 is cheap and can make a major difference running servers/nas/db apps

[@rkadi6540]

I really want to know in the future about these cpu support with future windows

[@Miyconst]

Don't worry, there is nothing to know, there won't be any support.

[@someguywithmtndew5691]

use windows 10 iot enterprise ltsc for support till 2032. but by then u should've already upgraded to AM5

[@excysyr]

How to proper cool a 2697v3 with turboboost unlock ?

[@Miyconst]

With a proper CPU cooler.

[@excysyr]

@@Miyconst sure thing.. but wich model for example ? Wich model did u use ?

[@excysyr]

@@Miyconst what cpu cooler did u use in your test ?

[@blatant6500]

​@@excysyran 4 heat pipe cooler with an 120mm fan would do the job Just Fine. Like one from deepcool, thermalright, wovibo etc

[@yasin_ELX]

Does it work with g8 board?

[@Miyconst]

Which G8 board are you asking about?

[@yasin_ELX]

Server HP DL360 G8

[@yasin_ELX]

It is for the game?

[@vollhorst140]

I think the x99 Xeon cpu are not worth it anymore. All good quality mainboards for the CPU’s are expensive af. Used ryzen 2000/3000 cpu and b450 mainboards are much cheaper, at least in mainland Europe. Thanks for the video, last nail in the Xeon coffers.

[@geort45]

what I'm interested is in other newer ES or QS xeons... but the nomenclature is confusing as hell... the golden era of buying old ES/QS xeons and dual CPU boards seems to be over

[@yuralmspw4911]

expensive cpus not worth it, but cheapeast like 2650v4 for 7 eur or 2680v4 for 17 eur is still a good choice and you can run them on cheap 40 eur mobos (I would disable 2-4 cores of 2080v4 on cheap mobo just to be safe and add cooler to vrm).

[@ww4102]

With a cheap z440 or similar workstation it can be very cheap, but I wouldnt bother with buying a separate mobo for this socket. I use z440 and it is still quite cool

[@GoDDooMzJulz8145]

im torn between 1660v4 1680v3 and 2697a v4 for a dell t5810 anyone has experience with this build

[@Miyconst]

I would go with E5-2697A V4 or E5-2690 V4.