Testing Klean Strip 1K kerosene In Lanterns

In this video I test the use of Klean Strip 1K kerosene in Kerosene lanterns.
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[@ScoutCrafter]

Excellent subject Ken! I have used all sorts of Kerosenes both traditional and synthetic without issue. Never knew anyone who ever had a issue with anything but gasoline. Great stuff as always! 😃👍

[@lotsatrains]

Thanks so much I usually use lamp oil and synthetic kerosene and have use regular kerosene in the past but there was some bad feedback on this particular brand that was supposedly causing run away fires in lanterns that I just wanted to rule out 👌

[@generfeld]

Thanks for taking the time to do this. KS K1 works fine in lamps. The SDS sheet for KS K1 says flash point is "greater than 100F". So we don't know exactly what it is? I poured some out and tried to light it and it does not burn (expected and good). I'm running it in 2 oil lamps and no problems. Used to use the WALMART "FLORASENSE" brand lamp oil which is kerosene based, and had very little odor. Loved it but seems they stopped selling it. Now I just use K1. I get "CROWN" brand K1 at WALMART, or KS K1 from Home Depot. It's all K1 and should be fine. Have not tried the KS "KLEAN HEAT" yet. Note: there is another type of lamp oil called "paraffin" lamp oil which is thicker, like a liquid candle wax. No odor and very clean but does not burn well with the larger flat wicks. It's meant for oil candles and small flat wicks. I don't bother and just use K1, K1 is the original fuel lamps/lanterns were meant for and it works with zero issue. K1 soaks into any wick instantly and is a joy to use. I think some people exaggerate the K1 odor or expect it to be perfectly clean.

[@lotsatrains]

Yes all very true and thank you very much for all of that great information 👍

[@rigoa9592]

Very informative learned what i wanted to learn, disclaimers not necessary. Experiment speaks for itself, thanks.

[@alfonsogonzalez2099]

This was just what i needed to see thank you im stopping by home depot tomorrow

[@lotsatrains]

You’re welcome 👍

[@walterhudson6370]

In the 60s we had a dietz lantern and a kerosene heater we burned kerosene 50 cents gal from a gas station in both no problems

[@alvarokerosene6257]

Excellent test ken. It's very good to make our own research beside what instructions say

[@lotsatrains]

Thanks that’s very true 👍

[@morayjames92]

Thanks Ken appreciate your time.

[@lotsatrains]

Your welcome and thanks for watching 👍

[@angiefav1847]

Great experiment now we know, thanks you saved me going to all that trouble l enjoyed the video

[@lotsatrains]

You’re Welcome and still have been using it a lot lately in several of my lanterns with no problems 👍

[@joebuchanan3808]

Thank you sir, most informative : )

[@lotsatrains]

You are welcome and thanks for watching 👍

[@HabeasJ]

Great test. 1-K is the only kerosene I can find in my area and I haven't had any issues. I actually bought a "Walmart lantern" a year or two ago and I remember the instructions specifically listed 1-K as a safe fuel. Always good to do a some worst case scenario testing to put the mind at ease

[@gregpeterman1102]

I bought this Crown brand, labeled clean burning kerosene at Wal Mart, that was awful, stinky and smoky. The kerosene from local shell station with red dye is half the price and much cleaner. I was wondering why I was having such a problem with the crown brand, until I read in comments that others were not satisfied with it, it wasn't just me. Two heads are better than one. I had bought it hoping it would be more suitable for indoor use, so it is still OK for outdoor use, not like sour milk you have to dispose of.

[@lotsatrains]

Thanks I appreciate your comments and yes always better to be safe than sorry 👍

[@lotsatrains]

@@gregpeterman1102 yes I have heard that there is no consistency with the crown brand some folks say it’s ok and some just like you stated but also heard that they use different manufactures and just put their own label on it and it can vary from place to place.

[@paulhare662]

Found the coolest accessory today. A "DANDY" kero can. It's a gallon glass jar in a galvanized sheet metal bucket. Found it in an antique shop but apparently its a repoduction and they are still being made. Looks so much better than a plastic jug and has a spout that really works.

[@lotsatrains]

That’s so cool I have to get one of them I recently bought an old antique metal one that I thought was going to be good but turns out it’s full of pin holes 😂 that’s why I need a nice glass one 👍

[@paulhare662]

@@lotsatrains A guy on Ebay has them. Around $60. One is galvanized, another is bronzed looking. There are vintage ones too but they are pricey.

[@lotsatrains]

@@paulhare662 Thanks will check them out 👍

[@paulhare662]

@@lotsatrains Let me know what you think of it.

[@Rayo_Rob_No.17]

Well, looks like you’ll be fine burning that, if it was designed for heaters, it’ll be fine for wick lanterns. I’d say you’re good to go! Thanks for the product review. I can’t find too many kerosene options here, Walmart is my cheapest option here, and it’s clean, classic 1-K.

[@lotsatrains]

Yes same here we are getting pretty limited with options so I thought I’d give it a try but after a week using it I remembered seeing some bad posts about the low flashpoint and got a little concerned thats what prompted me to do this

[@googlesbitch]

Kerosene is safe for use with hurricane lamps but the best fuel is still paraffin oil (lamp oil), especially for indoor use. The advantage of kerosene is it's lower cost and slightly brighter burn but at a slight higher consumption rate. The negative is the slight diesel like smell when burned when compared to paraffin oil which has no diesel smell but a candle burn smell because paraffin oil is the same as paraffin wax.

[@lotsatrains]

Very true but paraffin doesn’t perform well in colder weather.

[@wemcal]

I use Klean strip K1 all the time with no problems.. that station around my corner sell K1 clear kerosene..$5.34 gal.. I use that now

[@lotsatrains]

That’s good that you can still get it at a decent price. I wish I still could but can only buy it at either Wal Mart or Home Depot and it’s like $13 for a gallon now 😞

[@victoryfirst2878]

Fella, you have to remember that oil is still oil. You just might be splitting hairs. Just saying you will be safe. This stuff is not gasoline and acts totally different.

[@lotsatrains]

Like I said “Don’t try this at home” but I have been burning this stuff in my lanterns since I made the video and it’s proven safe to me now I’ve had no problems 👍

[@victoryfirst2878]

@@lotsatrains You will be fine fella. THE trick is "OIL" FUEL.

[@GuntersGarage]

Ive done well with kerosene from a gas station, the kero from kleen strip, florescence from w mart and the kero substitute. Ive tried so many because the smell bothers my wife and smell wise did best with the kero substitute. I did try the scented kero additive with adverse results. Something changed and I ended up with a runaway flame. I had to flush the tank and change the wick to get rid of the additive. Ive used diesel fuel too but it needs more heat so it sooty and smelly

[@lotsatrains]

Yes same here my wife hates the smell no matter what I’m burning in the lanterns so at least I have a nice backyard gazebo to burn them in outside 👍

[@generfeld]

@@lotsatrains Use a regular oil lamp indoors- there is no smell when burning. Lanterns smell a little for some reason- I guess since its more enclosed, it does not burn as efficiently. Regular oil lamps should have zero odor with kerosene. Use those indoors instead of lanterns indoors

[@lotsatrains]

@@generfeld yes I agree 👌

[@brucesheehe6305]

Klean Heat Kerosene Substitute works great in Aladdin mantle lamps - it is ultra-refined kerosene - just like almost like Jet Fuel.

[@lotsatrains]

It works great in lanterns too used to use it exclusively but now the price is getting too high sadly

[@independentcontactors339]

Yeah I just bought a Walmart lantern, the instructions did not mention k-1, it said use ultra refined clear lamp fuel and not to burn indoors, then I looked on the internet and got the same people you must have read about saying oh no k1 is like paint thinner don't do it... Well I have a kerosene heater that says its safe for indoor as long as you use the k1. And the k1 says it's good for lamps. So I found your video and seems to me k1 is just fine. Right now I have the high dollar untra refined lamp fuel but you know it smells just like kerosene too.

[@lotsatrains]

Yes exactly what I smell too when burning the lamp oils and the prices keep going up fortunately I found a place that sells kerosene at the pump for $7.99 a gallon and that’s what I’m using now and don’t often use my lanterns indoors but if I have to for an emergency it’s not too bad 👍

[@jasper60103]

Yeah, the Klean heat is about $18/gallon, and the k1 you have there is $16/gallon at my local Home Depot. Its starting to get pretty speedy because I enjoying burning them a lot indoors. And my collection is growing steadily. I guess the novelty will wear off soon enough. 😀. Thanks for sharing.

[@lotsatrains]

Yes it’s getting very expensive lately 👍

[@jasper60103]

@@lotsatrains I just wanted to update. I just bought a couple gallons of kerosene from a fleet farm gas station. There wasn’t much info on the pump about the kerosene other stating it was low sulfur. Anywho, for $5.49 a gallon it was worth a try. So I burned out all the synthetic kerosene in my junior lantern last night and refilled with the kerosene from the pump. Allowed it to sit overnight. Today I lit the lantern and have been burning it for over hour at my kitchen table. Pleased to say that I’m not noticing any unpleasant fumes or odors, even with my nose close to the exhaust vent. Anyway, I just thought I would share this. Edit 6/13/23: After using the K1 kerosene (purchased at the pump) a while, I started noticing the unpleasant kerosene smell. That said, I’m back on board with using klean heat for indoor use. I’ll use kerosene for when burning outside.

[@lotsatrains]

@@jasper60103 Thanks so much and that’s a great price I wish I could find some of that in my area 👍

[@jasper60103]

@@lotsatrainsYeah, now I don’t have to cut back on enjoying my lanterns. Btw, the Dietz Junior’s small size makes for a great table lantern. 🔥

[@lotsatrains]

@@jasper60103 yes very true I love my juniors for sure 👍

[@johnnorman7708]

I got no real concern with any 1-K, K-1, Jet A, Diesel, home heating oil, (fuel oil) or klean heat kerosene substitute They all work in wick type burners. Some do not flow so well in fiberglass wicked heaters, but do in cotton wicks.

[@Caseydog3]

Tractor Supply around my area sells Crown K1 Kerosene for 49.99 for 5 gal

[@lotsatrains]

Thanks that’s pretty good but I recently found it near me for $7.99 a gallon at the pump 👍

[@rickbrandtstarman1724]

I liked this video but wish you had commented on the use "indoors"....is it much too sooty or strong smelling to use indoors? or like in a cabin ? I have heard both yes and no regarding in home use of 1K Kerosene in the house I'm talking about...outdoors I am sure it's fine.

[@lotsatrains]

I don’t usually use my lanterns indoors unless it’s necessary because of a power failure because they do produce an odor regardless of what fuel you are using which isn’t an offensive smell to me but my wife does not really like it.

[@ShepherdsChapelonYT]

Theseasonorg explains the whole bible God bless

[@lotsatrains]

Thanks 🙏

[@Johnny53kgb-nsa]

Do you like the lanterns with a flat wick better than one's with a mantle wick ? Im curious which is best. I definetly don't know much about lanterns, but I beleive k-1 kerosene is much safer than gasoline thats for sure. Maybe Kerosene is similar to diesel fuel, and related to jet fuel? thanks, John

[@lotsatrains]

I definitely prefer the flat wick lanterns over the pressure mantle wick lanterns because I think the flat wicks are more simple and have more to offer in terms of character and history although not as bright as the mantle lanterns but are sure great for mood lighting and relaxing on a nice evening and as far as the fuel that I use is pretty much 1k kero, klean heat and sometimes lamp oil.

[@markeholbrook]

I bought something called clear kerosene, it didn't smell like kerosene, iit smelled like odorless paint thinner. I put some in my Dietz #40 traffic gard, and lit it. It was burning high so I lowered the wick, a few minutes later, it was burning high again and the globe was sooted up. Never found a good use for it.

[@lotsatrains]

Wow that sounds like it could be dangerous in a lantern and make the whole thing flare up.

[@grivolas2144]

I think the real problem hear is flashpoint. A lot of people think flashpoint is the temperature where things go boom. If that were the case your car would be gone as the flashpoint of gas is -30ish degrees. All flashpoint is, is the temp at which kerosene or whatever it maybe will everporate enough to creat a flammable mixture with the air. This why you can place a lit match next to the wick and nothing will happen until the kerosene reaches its flashpoint. This is also why you see stupid people blow themselves up when lighting a fire with gas. The gas is well above its flashpoint so it is creating a large cloud of a volitale air mixture that is spreading quickly. Then Joe Pinhead takes a match, doesn't even make it to were he poored the gas, and boom.

[@lotsatrains]

Yes all very good points I just was curious because I had heard some people reported that after using this fuel for a few hours during a continuous burn their lantern bursted into an uncontrollable fire and wanted to know if it actually was safe to use.

[@grivolas2144]

@@lotsatrains I don't have any lanterns, but I burn my center draft lamps with 1k klean heat and never had a problem. Some will burn 6 hours. However, I do have a theory on how this might happen. It would involve a damaged hot blast lantern. Lets assume the air chamber in the font is damaged and leaks fuel into it. With the hot blast lantern, the hot air could warm up the fuel in air chamber to its flash point and then as the hot air flows past this fuel it creats a volitile air mixture that is drawn into to flame and you get a big uncontrollable flame. This could be tested by putting fuel into the air chamber lighting the lamp and heating with a heat gun. If this is the case it could happen with any fuel. I would just take longer with a higher flash point.

[@lotsatrains]

@@grivolas2144 Great theory thanks so much I appreciate it 👍

[@grivolas2144]

@@lotsatrains I've been able to reproduce uncontrolled flame almost at will. It seem to to all come down to the wick. With my aladdin it I don't trim the wick properly or not at all it will go nuts in time. With my flat wick lamps if I use a cheap wick or the wrong wick they can go nuts as well. I find through testing I can get any lamp fuel to do it. My guess is that a poor fitting wick will release extra fuel from the wick tube.

[@lotsatrains]

@@grivolas2144 yes very accurate conclusion 👍

[@dougmayberry9998]

Every lantern I've ever bought came with instructions, which say that kerosene, and lamp oil are both acceptable fuels, then in bold letters, cautions against using gasoline. I'm not about to find out what happens if you use gasoline, but I do kind of wonder. Maybe a runaway flame? Maybe an explosion? Do you happen to know?

[@lotsatrains]

I definitely would not try gasoline and do think you would have a major uncontrollable fire because it’s a very low flashpoint but I was just curious about this particular brand of kerosene that was circulating around on the web with some bad feedback on using it in lanterns and just wanted to make sure it wouldn’t get me into any trouble 👍

[@dougmayberry9998]

@@lotsatrains Got cha. That settles it then. A runaway flame is what we think would happen.

[@ScooterFXRS]

lol ... plastic garbage can, steel table top, wooden stick, petrol fuel, open flame, and a heat gun what could go wrong? 🤯 Edit: heard the clank of the temp unit hitting the table.

[@lotsatrains]

That’s why I said don’t try this at home 😂 but in the end all is good 👍

[@johnhipp604]

I have a blue lantern

[@lotsatrains]

Very cool 👍

[@jamesrichardson6357]

I mean what should happen when you pu kerosene in a kerosene lantern ? Lol

[@lotsatrains]

True to that but there was chatter on the Facebook lantern group about this specific stuff bursting into flames when someone used it in their lantern or lamp and I decided to see if there was any possibility of it happening but this test convinced me it’s pretty safe.

[@TheChewy78]

Much cheaper by me to burn pump kerosene

[@lotsatrains]

Yes 👍 I wish I could still get it near me but unfortunately this and Klean heat which is even more expensive is about my only options

[@Georgie84923]

@@lotsatrains im new to this lantern thing and I recently purchased a brand new Dietz junior and Dietz little wizard (small Fount) version. I initially started using them with medallion lamp oil which works great but was getting crazy at $32.56 a gallon so I recently switched to Klean heat at about $19.52 a Gallon. It seems pretty good and only has a small amount of odor compared to the medallion. I had a question for anyone who will answer a question as im new to the world of lanterns, what happens if the fount goes totally dry? I'm under the imnprestion that the wick just burns up to nothing?

[@lotsatrains]

@@Georgie84923 you have no problem letting the lantern burn until the fount is completely dry it will eventually go out after the remaining fuel had burned from the wick and probably will just have to trim about 1/4 inch of char from the top of the wick when you want to fill it and use it again. It’s actually a process that many folks do if they want to stop using the lantern and put it into storage for a while because I have heard rumors about keeping fuel in lanterns for a long time can accumulate moisture in the fuel but I personally have had a few stored about half full in my basement for a couple years and haven’t had any problems yet.

[@Georgie84923]

@@lotsatrains Awsome I’m gonna do that cause I was thinking eventually I’ll store them, once I’m over obsessively messing around with them 🤣

[@TheBorderlined]

@@lotsatrains The fact about water and kerosene is that like diesel, it's attract moisture, and water being heavier than kerosene it goes to the bottom. This being said, if the place you store your lamps has no drastic change in temp (condensation) or lot of humidity, it's not a concern. I use an open flamme lamp with a glas fount mixed 50/50 kerosene and water, the water stays under the kero, I do this because it's a thin round wick and it cannot suck the kero when the level gets too low. Just my two cents. Have a great day. Greeting from Belgium