Testing my home made bowl gouge

[@briancv83]

"Gah! F&#%!!!!! GIVE IT UP!" I was seriously laughing there. Cool project.

[@robbinghook3571]

You're an never give up guy. Hats off to your efforts. This one and the previous one are really wonderful. Now I know how to make a gouge without CNC. The bowl gouge is cutting pretty good.

[@Rolingmetal]

I don't know, I have lots of unfinished projects. But I was happy to get this one finished :)

[@shoptimefishing4315]

Looks awesome! I love the way you spin your wood with that new gouge! Thats a beautiful piece you got there. Keep doing good work!!

[@Rolingmetal]

Thanks, I think I did ok

[@locustbay7594]

I love your videos - Great narrative, fantastic sense of humour and i like to see you make the mistakes - just like i do! No editing for the camera - warts and all. Just a quick note, what you call a spindle gouge is actually a roughing gouge. Spindle gouges are used for between centres and are generally quite small. I wish i could get my bowl gouge ground as well as yours and i have been turning (wood and metal) for years

[@Rolingmetal]

Stop, you're making me blush. Showing my mistakes gets me some feedback on how to improve my skills. Also I got bored with all those perfectly executed projects. Could also be jealousy :)

[@RickTurnsWoodturning]

For a homemade owl gouge, that works pretty good!

[@Rolingmetal]

Yes, and it also seems to keep a decent edge.

[@busterwest1644]

All I can think of to say to YOU are my hero... LOL... Absolutely Fabulous.. BUUT, I did learn a valuable lesson. HAving just started woodturning I have a lot to learn but if it doesnt work out then it will not be the tool or the lathe... got to be me..... Thank you so much for the laughter and lesson.

[@Rolingmetal]

Glad to see someone still envoys my older work. Thanks :)

[@georgewhitfield2176]

Astonishing. I get you making your own tool with whatever you find at hand. I have done that myself a lot. But never using a bowl gouge before and doing so well (despite the questionable technique) is truly amazing. I don't know how many times I struggled to hollow out a bowl with my own made tools and even with purchased ones before it finally clicked and got to understand what you are supposed to do is (for me at least) very impressive! Very well done. You must have nerves of steel.......or the most relaxed guy I have ever watched. Love your narrative too. Keep it up, you are going to be a master in no time at all (at least compared to me). Cheers/GeorgeGreece.

[@Rolingmetal]

You're too kind. I'm amazed that it works and keeps an edge :)

[@georgewhitfield2176]

You should be using a roughing gouge for square to round and save your bowl gouge from getting dulled. I made one out of marine grade stainless steel tubing that worked remarkably well, Its big advantage was that I had an edge 360 degrees all the way round and so you can keep turning it to a fresh new edge. No handle, just the tube. Downside was that it occasionally got clogged up with chips etc. Very easy to grind an edge too. Just stick it up to a grinder and keep turning it round and round. Making carbide tip tools are very easy too. Just go on line and look for industrial suppliers so you don't pay the prices from woodturning shops. Good luck. GG

[@jasonwardwoodturning4387]

Great achievement 👏

[@richardharmer2683]

I like the way you left the video (worts and all) .. From here I think that was a success well done.

[@ian7583]

Good job m8 well done 👏

[@garethjones6342]

A FRIENDLY SUGGESTION! the better bowl gouges I've seen, if you look at the bevel straught on like this "U" looking straight into the tip, the gouges worked better if the "U" ground out part, was ever so slightly leaned in past parallel instead of a | | shape, youre getting a / \. sorry if my janky drawings diwn help, ymmv, very nice!

[@garethjones6342]

ALSO CUT THE CONCAVE FROM RIM TO CENTER!

[@garethjones6342]

AT 7:22 LOOSEN up tte tool rest, slide it left, and get it tucked into the left edge of the bowl! You have no need to have a toolrest sitting out to the other side!

[@garethjones6342]

FUCK this is so hard to explain without drawing or showing.l Pack shop and head over to canada I will help you out!

[@asheeshs7932]

I like your the energy... well done.

[@Rolingmetal]

Thanks. But I could used some more :)

[@billsutherland2128]

Nice tool! Grind back the edges to create a Farnsworth bevel.

[@IBWatchinUrVids]

Maybe the next video should be entitled "how to locate your missing finger in a pile of saw dust". Keep them coming! ;)

[@lv_woodturner3899]

Thanks for the video. Well done. The bowl gouge is working very well. You may want to watch some more videos on roughing down a bowl blank. You can use the bowl gouge for roughing down the outside as well as on the inside. One example from Lyle Jamieson kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmGZdp2HnamFhc0 I would not use a spindle gouge for roughing down. Too much risk of it digging in. The grind on your bowl gouge will change the way the tool works. The present grind is steep, good for getting through the transition from side to bottom. Some call this a bottom scraper grind. You experienced this grind is not easy to start the cut. A grind with less angle and more pointed would be easier to start. Grinding wings on the gouge can help in certain cuts. Some call this fingernail grind, some call it Irish grind,some call it Ellsworth grind. Not easy to achieve grinding free hand, but it is not difficult to make a simple jig. If you want to try this let me know and I will email details. Pictures to illustrate different bowl gouge grinds in this link. www.woodcentral.com/cgi-bin/readarticle.pl?dir=turning&file=articles_934.shtml You can always use a scraper to start the cut and to smooth the bottom. I was hoping you would not hit the screws. Consider a glue block. Screw the faceplate to a scrap piece of wood and use a paper joint or hot glue to mount the bowl to the glue block. Hot glue is very strong and easy to remove later. You were getting nice long shavings which means the wood is wet. Dry wood will generate small and dusty shavings. I turned a bowl from a piece of elm. When wet it created long ribbon shavings, and was easy to cut. I roughed this down, put it aside to dry. Some months later when I did the final turning, it was very difficult to cut, generating tiny shavings, more like sawdust. Not fun. You experienced resin building up on the tool due to the wood being wet. This needs to be cleaned off.

[@Rolingmetal]

Thanks for all the tips. I watched the Lyle video. He makes roughing down the outside look so easy with his "only 2hp" motor. My motor looses from an almost 20 year old black&decker cordless drill !! :) lol Now that I know that the steel I used can keep and edge, I''m going to make a second gouge so I can experiment with different grinds. I also got to find some more wood. Because of bird nesting I can' t cut down any more trees. The wood felt pretty dry but I guess there was still some water inside. Compared to the Alder bowl I made, I though this oak was pretty dry. The shavings were only lightly moist and totally dry the next day. Do you think it's possible to glue a moist bowl blank to a block of wood? I guess special glue will be needed. Anything that can be done to prevent the build up of resin? Maybe dip the tool in water?? By resin do you talk about that sticky stuff that comes from fir or pine trees? We call that "hars" and a far as I know oak doesn't have that stuff

[@lv_woodturner3899]

It should be possible to glue a wood block to moist wood. Some glues will work better than others. I have normally cut a tenon on my wet wood bowl blanks to grip in a chuck. I have used a glue block, but with dry wood. Two glues which use moisture to cure are CA and urethane. CA is strong but brittle. The urethane is the type which creates a foam as it reacts to the moisture. You will need to clamp the glue block to the bowl blank to overcome the force generated by the expanding foam. You can also try what we call Construction Adhesive in the US. This comes in a long tube and applied with a caulk gun. Some of this is urethane. Some not urethane. It should state it will adhere to wet wood. The wet wood will contain the fluids the tree created to move moisture between the leaves and the roots. This contains what I called resins. Certain woods like pine can concentrate the resins in what we call pitch pockets. Shavings dry fast since there is so much exposed surface area for the small volume of the shavings. Weigh the bowl blank. Check the weight the next day. As long as the weigh goes down it is still losing moisture. It is deemed dry when it no longer loses moisture, so has reached equilibrium with the air around where the wood is stored. Trying to avoid the resin build up on the tool is not easy. One thought is to try spraying the tool tip with a product used to spray on kitchen cookware to avoid food sticking. In the US a brand name is Pam. Another thought is try a little way-oil on the tool. You may have some for the metal lathe. If you do not have any way oil, I can recommend getting this even if only for the metal lathe. It is a sticky oil and may last longer than normal oil..

[@jamesdungan4426]

LV_Woodturner I

[@craighudson1827]

For your first time, with a home made gouge, on a super sketchy lathe, that was amazing! You should really consider investing in some better tools. I hope you further pursue turning, its a lot of fun.

[@Rolingmetal]

Thanks. But credit should also go to the instruction videos I watched :) I now have a much better lathe but haven't turned in a while because it makes such a mess in the shop. But I'm sure I'll drag the lathe outside next summer.

[@donpalmer4155]

A for effort! Great vid!

[@jackcates1079]

Great job! the angle of your bevel is great, the traditional grind, better for working on the bottom of the bowl. take a look at the"Irish grind" on your next bowl gouge, works better on the sides and starting the cut. Easier to "Ride the bevel" in my opinion. I am new at woodturning, about 6 months in. Self taught on KZbin. Really don't know much, but have watched A LOT of videos. Take a look at Stuart Batty. His videos helped me alot with the bowl gouge. Also videos by Lyle Jameson. Both very good instruction. Looking forward to your next gouge.... jax164

[@Rolingmetal]

Thank you. It worked better then I suspected and it looks like it keeps a pretty good edge. I'm looking for a better wood lathe. When I got one I will probably make some more tools.

[@samp1394]

Good for your first time keep doing it you willl learn

[@Rolingmetal]

I did a few more since then but the hardest part is still the side of the inside. At some point I will need to find a why to re-true the rough turned boles. They are getting a bit oval shaped :)

[@ZepLabs]

Some nice chips there!

[@Rolingmetal]

That's the wet wood, next time I'll glue up some plywood :)

[@paulblackman3936]

Hmm, maybe a visit to Lyle Jameson channel on KZbin may be in order? Also a "fingernail" grind helps a lot with hard woods, rather than a trad grind.

[@What_Other_Hobbies]

I’m very surprised that tool held the edge for so long. That steel rod is only surface hardened because of your file test and being able to drill the center. It’s not heat treated after it’s ground to shape, meaning the whole cutting edge is not hardened. And I feel lied to. You claimed with no experience, yet that first turn looks better than my last one. Keep fooling us.

[@Rolingmetal]

It was a rather green piece of wood :)

[@seekerblue447]

it looks like you are fighting it with the nose of the gouge in stead of the bevel edge,,,,,,,,,,,watch some more videos like rebel turner and mike waltk,,,,,,,,,,,,there are a lot of good informative videos that will help

[@haroldbrown1389]

U just mite have found life's secret, keep it up and learning

[@Rolingmetal]

having fun an not thinking to much is the best I can come up with.

[@barrycass2820]

Wow. Now that everyday life shit going on in that shop. You have your helmet on. We're do you find that shit (lathes) well good luck buddy and take out some Life insurance for your wife and kids. Someone keeping it real.

[@Rolingmetal]

The only helmet I have is for mountain biking and since we don't have any mountains in the Netherlands I never wear it :) The lathes usually find on www.marktplaats.nl For now I stopped looking :)

[@barrycass2820]

Oh ya love the entertainment it's great. It reminds me of that show Jack ass.

[@Rolingmetal]

Jack ass?..... I don't remember doing anything extreme or dangerous in that video.

[@Banshee350speed]

Hahaha!!!! Funny

[@Rolingmetal]

Thats good, right? or is it bad?

[@haroldbrown1389]

U need to watch u tube classes on woodworking.

[@Rolingmetal]

Trial and error is much more fun :)