TESTING the Cheapest Semiauto Shotgun: The Citadel Bosshog [Ep. 2]

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@scareypete13
@scareypete13 2 жыл бұрын
The upside, this gun would be great for training shooters on handling failures, emergency field stripping and repairs etc... it's like simulating a mossberg/Remington/beretta etc... that has fired thousands of rounds of high power loads in adverse conditions.
@genevandenham7999
@genevandenham7999 2 жыл бұрын
Or a new Remington that has had 5 shells through it. Lmfao.
@prfwrx2497
@prfwrx2497 2 жыл бұрын
For a 176 trainer, that's not bad. But that's literally the only thing it's worth a damn for.
@very7962
@very7962 2 жыл бұрын
Until it blows up. I wouldn’t trust that thing anywhere near my face
@glockster68
@glockster68 2 жыл бұрын
It should be marketed as the first single shot semi auto....and anti gunner's wet dream of a weapon
@unclejj509
@unclejj509 2 жыл бұрын
@@very7962 That's what she said
@OffensiveProduction1
@OffensiveProduction1 2 жыл бұрын
The commentary, and the analogies are easily the best part of James's videos.
@tw130
@tw130 2 жыл бұрын
Warning: Will not cycle with ammo under 1300 fps. (also can not survive loads hotter than 1300 fps)
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 2 жыл бұрын
bro exactly
@StevenHeins
@StevenHeins 2 жыл бұрын
Goldilocks zone
@maximilianmustermann5763
@maximilianmustermann5763 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you just need some ammo with exactly 1301 fps
@juliusmorgan2292
@juliusmorgan2292 2 жыл бұрын
not true... i've shot twelve hundred birdshot consistently. as long as you hold it to your shoulder. if you do not weigh around two hundred pounds i recommend another gun. as for the reliability, i've not had any issues with this piece until a cousin tried to fire it unshouldered. then you need thirteen fifty, or above. keep it clean, cuz i noticed tfb dude's gun is a filthy mess. also, if you are shooting high brass hot loads, you might want to loosen the choke... they have three modes.
@noobeenaut
@noobeenaut 2 жыл бұрын
Damned if you do, damned if you don't
@jerrykirk2126
@jerrykirk2126 2 жыл бұрын
My step daughter bought me a Citidel Boss Hog for my birthday last year. Not wanting to hurt her feelings, I smiled and said thank you. Since then I have put several boxes of low base #8 birdshot , as well as a couple of boxes of #2 3inch magnum, a box of double 00 buck, and a box of slugs. The first shot with the #8 hung up on ejecting, after that I have never had an issue with it . It eats whatever I feed it and is as reliable as any of my more expensive guns. I guess I got lucky.
@joeldiaz7416
@joeldiaz7416 7 ай бұрын
Has the gun still held up or has it died?
@jerrykirk2126
@jerrykirk2126 7 ай бұрын
@@joeldiaz7416 So far it has held up very well. But I don't abuse my guns like in the videos either. It is not my one of my hunting guns. It sits by my bed loaded with buckshot.
@codycreager4428
@codycreager4428 5 ай бұрын
Awesome daughter tbh
@diehard096
@diehard096 3 ай бұрын
She has the spirit and thought of you; a good daughter.
@typereiter
@typereiter 2 күн бұрын
That girl loves you!
@Diemerstein
@Diemerstein 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Citadel Bosshog and this is what I did. Took it home, took it apart, cleaned off all the shipping grease and lubed every moving part like you are suppose to do. Took it to the range, fired 100 rounds of the recommended velocity ammo, ran with no problem other than the trigger pin starting to move. Took it home and did the same thing when I purchased this gun, and of course used a bit of loctite on the pin. When to the range again with a buddy, now we brought 200 rounds, 100 of them the cheap walmart bundle, 1200fps stuff. All fired no problem, pin stayed in place, I have since put a minimum of 600 rounds through this gun, added a tube extension and fires to this day without any issues. When you had the first failure and took it apart, I knew right away what your problem was, that whole gas ring was dry and dirty as fuck, your whole gun showed no lube what so ever. If you are going to do a torture test on an imported gun, you need to remove the shipping grease, it is not a gun lube, second, lube it up as per instructions. This failure was not a surprise to me one bit.
@robertkeller9828
@robertkeller9828 2 жыл бұрын
This dude admitted he's an elitist who believes no semi-auto under a grand (rack) is worthy. He's like Sig owners who think their P320/p365 is the Pen ultimate handgun only AFTER they change out almost ev ery moving part before firing it. Given what you did, per Citadel's recommendations, that company has grounds for a lawsuit against this man child for deliberately abusing a brand new weapon out of the box for the purpose of defaming them. He was just like some spoiled brat at Christmas who wanted a 1000 buck dream bike but his parents got him a 200 dollar one, and then deliberately goes out to trash it in a tantrum. It's also the equivalent of reving a brand new car and never changing the break in oil. This was not "normal use". This was abuse. A Maverick 88 wouldn't have taken this punishment much better. If Citadel and/or their importer hasn't already brought suit, I urge common sense folks to share this video with an encouragement to do so.
@Diemerstein
@Diemerstein 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertkeller9828 I now have over 2000 shells through this gun, still no problem. I ended up putting a crimp on the trigger pin because it was still moving and that solved the problem which was no big deal to begin with. Not bad for a $175 semi shotgun plus a 8 round tube extension for $60. Yeah I got this gun when on sale with a military discount thanks to the US Marines.
@thomthompson9217
@thomthompson9217 2 жыл бұрын
This could actually be marketed as the very first disposable shotgun.
@brandonbowerstx
@brandonbowerstx 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that's an old zip gun.
@buckberthod5007
@buckberthod5007 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, guy back in the 50s sold a simple slam fire shotgun, was just a stock and receiver, that you slid the barrel into to set the primer off and fire. That was the real disposable shotgun
@Senator-Wary
@Senator-Wary 2 жыл бұрын
Like in cyberpunk 2077
@seanomeirs8362
@seanomeirs8362 2 жыл бұрын
Think of all the money you will save on ammunition.
@Tarumarugan
@Tarumarugan 2 жыл бұрын
@LabRat Knatz you should’ve left out the explanation and just let the real ones understand the reference 💯
@samanthaditchendorf4948
@samanthaditchendorf4948 10 ай бұрын
winchester sxp
@ronpark3809
@ronpark3809 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this series. You guys are keeping folks that can't afford to waste money from doing so.
@georgeheidkesr1759
@georgeheidkesr1759 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Your right, but it won't stop them !!! After all , it's $169 !!!!
@patrickriarchy6054
@patrickriarchy6054 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgeheidkesr1759 For that money you can get a decent used grandpa pump action in most places
@georgeheidkesr1759
@georgeheidkesr1759 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickriarchy6054 You'd be hard-pressed to do that today. An old wingmaster 870, Winchester defender etc is gonna cost you around $375 on a good deal. Six months ago I coulda bought 30-30's for $375 too............that same gun is $500 today, and where I live { rural } has no gun-buying pressure
@RdeneckTech
@RdeneckTech 2 жыл бұрын
Buy once, cry once.
@PresidentEvil-0
@PresidentEvil-0 2 жыл бұрын
So glad I watched this video before I bought one for my Dad. I’m just gonna stick to Maverick 88’s as my go-to budget shotgun.
@wubaru
@wubaru 2 жыл бұрын
The music stopping every time the gun jammed made me laugh so hard 🤪🤪
@kilofoxtrotdelta6112
@kilofoxtrotdelta6112 2 жыл бұрын
I like this series. Always on the look out for cheap reliable shotguns. Obviously not this one 😂
@zachbartlett2829
@zachbartlett2829 2 жыл бұрын
Stoeger!!
@JuggoJuggo
@JuggoJuggo 2 жыл бұрын
@@notchagrandpa8875 Pretty sure all those Turkish shotguns come from the same factory, unless there is like 8 shotgun factories in Turkey making nearly identical shotguns.
@winterlounge
@winterlounge 2 жыл бұрын
@@JuggoJuggo There multiple different factories producing very similar shotguns. I covered the differences in 2 of them in a recent video.
@ChevTecGroup
@ChevTecGroup 2 жыл бұрын
@@JuggoJuggo I always thought the same thing. But found out there are in fact a ton of firearms manufacturers in turkey. Most produce shotguns for export. And most copy each other's designs. And practically all of them really suck at metallurgy so you get lots of broken or rapidly worn internal parts, if they work in the first place. Even the single shot rifles and shotguns I've gotten from turkey suffer from sears that wear down and create a dead trigger, or broken(snapped) hammers, triggers, and sears.
@jangchief
@jangchief 2 жыл бұрын
Any review info on Charles Daly 601?
@programmerm5907
@programmerm5907 Жыл бұрын
This is a great series. I’d love to see a Palmetto State Armory lineup torture test! The Dagger G19 clone, a midlength Freedom AR, and their 9mm carbine or AK
@losmaestros2752
@losmaestros2752 2 жыл бұрын
The soundtrack is on point. James is definitely a connoisseur that sweet 80's synth/fused jams. bravo.........bravo *slow clap*
@kingwiththeax6880
@kingwiththeax6880 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Stoeger m2000. Made in Turkey (it did cost 3x more than James' test gun). 1100 rounds before the first malfunction. I replaced the extractor with a Benelli M2 extractor, and its back in business- no malfunctions. I'm not defending all Turkish shotguns. I am saying all Turkish shotguns are NOT equal. I will also add that 2 of my friends have purchased Stoeger Semis after having shot mine. Its that good. You can win with a Stoeger made in Turkey.
@macmclallen3893
@macmclallen3893 8 ай бұрын
I have that same exact shotgun, and it did the same thing to me. I simply replaced overring and it’s ran fine since then, but I also shoot all high brass out of it.
@johnnysworthout1640
@johnnysworthout1640 4 ай бұрын
hands down my favorite gun guy right here. LOL, I laughed so hard at this video. Then laughed all the way home with my A300. Love you man.
@Medmann48
@Medmann48 5 ай бұрын
Today I bought a Citadel Warthog 12 Gauge semi-auto shotgun for $129.00 with a full set of chokes. These Turkish shotguns are really a good value for what you get.
@novafox7091
@novafox7091 Ай бұрын
Why am I just now seeing this burn down video 😂. I love these videos from James and co.
@Jazzman-bj9fq
@Jazzman-bj9fq Жыл бұрын
Don't even know yet the results of the Turkish turkey gun review but I'm digging the Phonk music track already!!!
@PacketWrangler
@PacketWrangler 2 жыл бұрын
Mossberg 930 SPX time? Boy, that's what it sounds like. Looking forward to it. The Maverick 88 was my first firearm purchase ever, and it's still the only shotgun that I own. I have an itch for a 1301, but that will have to come after a safe upgrade.
@donprater6944
@donprater6944 2 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered about these shotguns... I paid $199 for a Beretta 1201FP with the pistol grip from Al's army Navy store almost 20 years ago, but that thing is awesome. Citadel, not so much...
@JulioMo
@JulioMo 2 жыл бұрын
$199 in 2001 is not the same as $199 in 2021.
@donprater6944
@donprater6944 2 жыл бұрын
True, but the point was, the 1201FP isn't a POS 👍
@JulioMo
@JulioMo 2 жыл бұрын
@@donprater6944 yes.
@FMDad-dm5qo
@FMDad-dm5qo 2 жыл бұрын
The deployment of 80s montage music throughout this cheapo shotgun series is on point
@THEJake829
@THEJake829 2 жыл бұрын
I'd still be interested in seeing the Stoeger M3000 defense version try this test. It would be cool to see if it's up to the task.
@michaelg2607
@michaelg2607 2 жыл бұрын
That gun is really popular in 3 gun. I have one. It's fine. Ran plenty of slugs through it.
@halilbaskurt1467
@halilbaskurt1467 2 жыл бұрын
James if you want a quality turkish made shotgun, take a look at the stoeger m3000 freedom series. it has ghost ring sights, 7+1 capacity, beveled loading port, oversized bolt release and bolt handle. I think it's the best shotgun for money. Also, since stoeger is a beretta group establishment, it is of higher quality than other Turkish shotguns, but for almost same price.
@littlejackalo5326
@littlejackalo5326 2 жыл бұрын
"The best shotgun money can buy." LOL
@rex8958
@rex8958 2 жыл бұрын
A couple specs makes it the best? Nothing you listed pertains to the action or cycling of the gun
@airsoftluke17
@airsoftluke17 2 жыл бұрын
Turkish is bad
@chevyon37s
@chevyon37s 10 ай бұрын
I’ve seen far too many Stoegers absolutely choke. My little brother had a m3000, maybe 1000rds before it started failing to cycle more than it would cycle.
@clarkrichards1907
@clarkrichards1907 2 жыл бұрын
I have a BA siaga mag fed 12 ga shotgun. I have done a crap load of work on it to make it reliable. I have made one off parts for it out of high strength alloys. Redesigning parts for better operation. By the time I was all done it would have been cheaper to do a high end semi-auto. However it does run now without problem now. Slugs, buck, and bird it runs it all.
@shawndye8988
@shawndye8988 2 жыл бұрын
I needed this video to be released one year ago to stop me from wasting my money. It took me 20 rounds to find out what you did in the video.
@tbadz95
@tbadz95 2 жыл бұрын
This was my first gun lol. I made a smarter decision and bought a mossberg 590 in the summer 😂
@aaroncall5274
@aaroncall5274 10 ай бұрын
Don’t know about this shotgun but I love my maverick 88. For 200 dollars it’s a beast of a weapon. Had mine for 9 years and it’s going strong. Accurate as hell too for a shotgun.
@Hjerte_Verke
@Hjerte_Verke 10 ай бұрын
Nobody cares about your lame pump shotgun that's not a Citadel-Bosshog. It's still a lame pump shotgun and this video is not about pump shotguns.
@MrTacklebury
@MrTacklebury 2 жыл бұрын
I bought an SDS Imports AR-T02C and got it for $199 with a 26" barrel and an 18.5" barrel. It's like a Beretta 1301 clone and it has thus far cycled every single thing I have put through it. 3" mags, Brenneke KO Slugs, 1650fps buckshot loads and target loads of 3 types etc. Never a failure thus far and handles target loads just as well as hot ones. One thing that is recommended for most semi-auto's is to clean it sometimes. Letting all the carbon build up is bad and also causes failures and shortens life spans. Not saying anything would have made that Citadel run, but I'm glad I bought the one I have and my brother got one too. Maybe someday I'll be sorry, but so far so good. If I had the funds for a 1301 I'd get it, but I can buy 7 of these for that price. lol
@soggybiscuits9399
@soggybiscuits9399 2 жыл бұрын
that blue flame coming out of the chamber was pretty cool. Need to kill one of those panzer or JTS shotguns next.
@mikeenos4040
@mikeenos4040 Жыл бұрын
You got a lemon.. I have one with a little simple work runs like a champ .but I only use 2-3/4 shells . What I did to mine was to clean all the grease out and re lubed with CLP. I also polished the chamber with a wooden dowel with steel 0000 wool with Fitz to mirror polish.,cycled it manually about a thousand times and left it with the bolt locked back for a week ,then the following weekend I went to wally world and got a case of cheap estate 1250 fps # 8 and went to my shooting spot and shot like a charm no jams spit them all out. So I can't complain for the money I even shot 1oz slugs at 30 yards and was impressed with accuracy and also shot some 2-3/4 #5 using the full tube and pattern well for turkey. . I also did alittle de buring with some emery cloth around the loading port on the receiver, it was a little sharp . For 200 bucks it just fine for me and worth the money ,I don't think I would torture test with magum loads, I don't need mag loads anyways.. But I did out of the box have about every 3 round would stick a empty half way out. But cleaning and lubeing and especially polishing the chamber made it function flawless.. Great for a truck gun but yes it's a cheap gun and don't know how long it is going to last but so far so good and I have over 600 rounds through it. Another thing I do is to clean the gas system really good it gets pretty dirty after a 100 rounds .and make sure the barrel lock nut is tight too. I wouldn't trust it for a battle gun running it hard and through that kind of test,,I would find a differnt gun , for somthing to take out to the range and target shoot or maybe shoot some clay bird it just fine. These are hit and miss some guys get good ones and some are carp no matter what you do to it.,there are several good reviews on how good they run and as many on how bad they are. But remember your buy a cheap shotgun and it not going to run like a 1200 dollar Benelli So if you have a little gunsmith knowledge and do some work on it it will run fine.
@philipmarcus97
@philipmarcus97 2 жыл бұрын
Try one of those Stoeger M3000 shotguns. They’re supposed to be pretty great.
@texpatriot8462
@texpatriot8462 2 жыл бұрын
I like mine and want to see how it does.
@buckeyeguy9885
@buckeyeguy9885 2 жыл бұрын
I can vouch, mine is a monster!!
@philipmarcus97
@philipmarcus97 2 жыл бұрын
Imma have to buy one with all these great comments.
@texpatriot8462
@texpatriot8462 2 жыл бұрын
@@philipmarcus97 I am not 100% certain it could get off 500 rounds in a row like the test requires (haven’t tried it) but I am 100% certain it can get off all the rounds in the tube and my shot card in a home defense situation 100% of the time. My Mossberg 500 got shifted to the back of the safe because of it,
@kevinbaker6168
@kevinbaker6168 7 ай бұрын
James, that is one to hold on to for the "swap your gun for concert tickets' programs. Hopefully you can get some worth more than what the gun cost you.
@usmcvet0313
@usmcvet0313 2 жыл бұрын
I've had that ring come out of its groove, and induce a failure to go into battery. It's not a catastrophic failure, however. I've found if you pull the bolt to the rear, and let it fly home, on the first or second attempt the force of the bolt coming forward will reseat the ring. Mine shoots hot 2 3/4 buckshot pretty reliably. In 150 rounds I've had the gas ring stoppage 3 times, and every time I've been able to reseat it with one or two cycles of the bolt.
@zetahoven4556
@zetahoven4556 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a VR80 or Typhoon shotgun on here. I see them on the wall at Sportsman Warehouse and wonder if theyre any good being around 500 magazine fed shotguns
@JulioMo
@JulioMo 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 💯!
@herknorth8691
@herknorth8691 2 жыл бұрын
I almost bought one of those VR80s but the guys I shoot 3-Gun with seem to have never-ending problems with them.
@zetahoven4556
@zetahoven4556 2 жыл бұрын
@@herknorth8691 interesting
@chadington6029
@chadington6029 2 жыл бұрын
They aren't good. They suffer from the same QC and lack of support as the gun above. Just cheap rebraded bad quality tactical Turks to make a quick buck on aesthetics and cheapness. Don't be duped.
@jackhoffarth
@jackhoffarth 2 жыл бұрын
I shoot a VR80 in multigun competitions and it’s been flawless, but I drilled the gas ports out to .116 thou and changed the back end out for a collapsible AR stock, Taccom vr80 buffer and flat wire recoil spring, then polished the internals, so it’s far from stock and a lot of diy work, but still cheaper than true open shotguns
@futtbucerson1820
@futtbucerson1820 2 жыл бұрын
I was keeping a straight face enjoying the video until James said “Ike and Tina” I fucking lost it! Lmao
@herbderbler1585
@herbderbler1585 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Remington Tac-13, sub-1k price even after I added the pistol-grip brace. It's bonkers reliable, eats everything without hesitation, the only exception being stuff specifically labeled "reduced recoil." I will forgive that because there's only so much any autoloader can do.
@danialphaomega
@danialphaomega 2 жыл бұрын
I have 1 but i polished all the metallic components and used copper grease instead of oil, also where the bolt rides highly polish that ramp. And surprisingly its still working.
@sst1911
@sst1911 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for testing this semi-auto bolt action shotgun. I was looking at possibly getting one of these. Not now. Thanks for saving me the money.
@ronfisher2016
@ronfisher2016 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for honest reviews..an not taking free shit to give positive votes on these ..i almost bought several of them , cause of price....after seeing your channel...bought the mossberg maverick security instead......But please do one more turkush burn down! I must see how the panzer arms m4. Please!
@goldenwheeledbanshee9160
@goldenwheeledbanshee9160 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I looked forward 2 this and dreaded it at same TIME. Mercy!! I see why Boss Hog keeps them around.
@rickt5705
@rickt5705 2 жыл бұрын
Can't stop laughing every time the music stops. And the puns at 4:00... choice.
@sgtjarhead99
@sgtjarhead99 2 жыл бұрын
I thought about picking up this shotgun a couple of months ago when my LGS had a few in stock. Good thing I decide to save the money and stuck with my old Mav 88 as my HD gun.
@crankygunreviews
@crankygunreviews Жыл бұрын
The high velocity stuff makes the bolt outrun the magazine spring so it will fire and eject, but the bolt may pass by the next round without picking it up. That was the main issue with the Citadel Boss 25 I had... and the recoil sucked... and the Turkish factories cannot seem to figure out how to install the flip up sights at the factory. they are always on backward on the AR style guns. Overall, the only off-brand semi I have tested that works is the Tristar brand. The Raptor I bought has chrome lined barrel, chamber, and chrome plated bolt. It is smooth, runs everything even my light reloads, my heavy reloads, slugs, and buckshot. I only ran 2 3/4" shells through it, but it has been great with all of those. And tri star are about $350-400
@thatguybeforetech5909
@thatguybeforetech5909 2 жыл бұрын
So, will this be leading to a torture test on some of the mag fed shotguns from turkey. Maybe even the bullpup??
@nonyobusiness1201
@nonyobusiness1201 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm hoping for as well... James got me 2nd guessing my ATI Bulldog purchase.
@TexasLawbringer77
@TexasLawbringer77 2 жыл бұрын
Hope so, I was about *this* close to pulling the metaphorical trigger on one from Panzer Arms before finding Maverick 88 (with the 18.5 & 28 inch barrel!) for the same price.
@mikegirard2920
@mikegirard2920 2 жыл бұрын
Mag fed shotguns under $1000 are junk.
@timelias6508
@timelias6508 2 жыл бұрын
Picked up a Panzer Arms BP12 over the summer. Love the platform, FTF on new mag is the problem. Mag insertion/release was janky from the start. Now once a mag is done, when inserting new mag have to keep pressure on the charging handle and bang the hell out butt on a table to get it ready to load. Over 100 rds & still utter garbage. Selling & Mav 88 here I come. No more Turkish crap for me
@ST19859
@ST19859 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikegirard2920 My VR80 runs flawless on anything its fed
@Jimmy_Watt
@Jimmy_Watt 2 жыл бұрын
The 1980s chase music was right up your alley. Not saying I enjoyed it. It was just right up your alley. 😉
@alimaatouk5966
@alimaatouk5966 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of when I bought my first Canik couldn't get rid of it quick enough.
@pcp2522
@pcp2522 2 жыл бұрын
The pure joy James has beating the shit out of a POS Turkish shotgun is funny to watch. I imagine the poors who bought it would be crying during this experience.
@mattwnovak
@mattwnovak 2 жыл бұрын
No not really, just a good understanding of how shit the thing is.
@very7962
@very7962 2 жыл бұрын
Poor people am i right? Bleh
@jayb3385
@jayb3385 2 жыл бұрын
@@very7962 How dare they wish to own a semi auto at a price they can afford!
@bitbat9
@bitbat9 2 жыл бұрын
only rich people should be able to own guns fuck poor people /s
@pcp2522
@pcp2522 2 жыл бұрын
Lol the salty poors in here must not watch this channel much. Cracking jokes on shit budget gear while elevating good budget gear is a staple of this channel
@raymondschmidt9425
@raymondschmidt9425 2 жыл бұрын
And he cracks a Hickok joke! Happy new year!
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 2 жыл бұрын
Being that it had a totally different type of failure on each magazine worth of ammo, it would be good for training, haha. You have to rapidly diagnose the problem and fix it on the clock.
@fdmackey3666
@fdmackey3666 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck getting Turkish semi auto shotguns repaired, even by really good gunsmiths, since replacement parts appear to be made from unoptainiam for the most part, and IF they can be had, the replacement parts are no better made than the ones they replaced. A couple of friends of mine learned that the hard way during the hunting season of 2020-21.
@JustTheTip556
@JustTheTip556 2 жыл бұрын
I have one these. The "Warthog" though. I haven't put very many shells through it, maybe 150 at the most. I had no failures with it so far but this video makes me think I will have some failures in the next 150 shells. Now I wish I would've just got the pump version.
@isawit9722
@isawit9722 2 жыл бұрын
Don't shoot 3inch.... it'll be fine
@JustTheTip556
@JustTheTip556 2 жыл бұрын
@@isawit9722 all the 150 I've shot so far were 3" birdshot. Maybe I should stay away from 3" if I'm gonna shoot buck or slug?
@isawit9722
@isawit9722 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustTheTip556 yes I would stay away from 3in slugs and buck, you'll blow the ring...get a cheap pump,they shoot everything....just as quick
@Lezura
@Lezura 2 жыл бұрын
Came for the burn-down, stayed for the puns. 12/10
@randydavis9324
@randydavis9324 7 ай бұрын
For the same price 25 years ago, I bought a used Ithaca semi automatic shotgun. Mine still works, but the engraving has faded a little.
@BAGofTALENT
@BAGofTALENT Жыл бұрын
If you have no other option than to go cheap ALWAYS go name brand, Mossberg and Remington make excellent products at good value under $500 like the Moss 500 series and Remington's 870 . The maverick 88 is the only option as far as $200 shotguns go .
@AlexKS1992
@AlexKS1992 5 ай бұрын
Probably the best way to test a shotgun to see if it’s good is to get some 3 inch shells and use all the various loads such as buckshot, slugs, turkey loads, waterfowl loads and maybe grab some Hornady Coyote Magnum loads. If the shotgun survives 3 inch magnums I’d say it’s good. Maverick 88 can handle the magnums but it seems like the Turkish shotguns just can’t, my advice is get a Maverick 88. I have one and it’s good.
@Darthdoodoo
@Darthdoodoo 6 ай бұрын
Da boshawg rules them alllll. I hear you need to try the semi auto panzers
@eGnasty
@eGnasty 2 жыл бұрын
LOL "no, that's a terrible idea... a terrible idea..... do you want to?"
@errolwilcox747
@errolwilcox747 Жыл бұрын
Isn't the Boss Hog a Mr. Hankey's toy? Very fitting, pun intended.
@ghill1010
@ghill1010 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all work. I know a lot goes into this for us to watch. Thank you!!!!
@yiannik6000
@yiannik6000 2 жыл бұрын
As a greek, i apreciate all the turkey jokes in the first couple of minutes
@fairplayer916
@fairplayer916 Жыл бұрын
so id love to see the next SG featured on the torture test to be one f the cheap lever shotguns from like black aces or somebody.
@matthewtalich9989
@matthewtalich9989 2 жыл бұрын
The only good thing about this gun is it's still somehow cheaper then most American made single shots. Strange times we live in. Though in a head to head competition I think a single shot break action Henry might actually provide superior fire power. Especially when you consider that this particular semi auto is running nearly a 99% failure rate.
@luasmartinez1262
@luasmartinez1262 2 жыл бұрын
Napoleon Dynamite and friends at the Range...the Sequel. "Tina...More Ammo Tina, Gosh!"
@KathrynLiz1
@KathrynLiz1 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the Turkish semis are good reliable guns, but they cost in the $6-900 range, and they make some really nice doubles. The early semis had structural problems...the action bars used to part company with the piston... bad brazing.... I welded up dozens of them until they changed the design. They qualified as 'medium priced'.... I guess you get what you pay for. I have a Russian Baikal semi that has probably had at least 5000 rounds through it and it ALWAYS functions, even with really tatty ammo. The beauty of the Baikal is the adjustable gas system with excess gas bleed off via a spring loaded valve, so at the same setting would shoot anything from low recoil cowboy to 3" slugs with total reliability... good gun... I've had it since 1992, and it seems to out perform friends' guns that cost thousands of dollars. Chinese guns are the same...they run the gamut from very good to bloody awful...although if you stick to Norinco (they make all of the Army rifles etc.) they are fine... nothing fancy, but they are well made from good materials... A definite case of caveat emptor...
@15seagull
@15seagull 2 жыл бұрын
This is like watching James recreate Far Cry 2 weapon malfunction clearances
@alliwantisfinancialstabili7414
@alliwantisfinancialstabili7414 2 жыл бұрын
"it's a semi-automatic which is a favorite of a mentor of mine, and it's one of the only sub-1000 autos I see recommended on a regular basis" It's the Mossberg 930 isn't it
@kingbaldwiniv5409
@kingbaldwiniv5409 2 жыл бұрын
This series reminds us that quality shotguns come from quality manufacturers. Beretta, Mossberg, Benelli, etc.
@althill7407
@althill7407 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a Mav 88 right before your video came out and it was kinda meh for me when I ran a box of bird shot through it. Like a week after your video came out some buddies and I put 100 shells of buck and slugs through it, and I kinda changed my opinion on it. It's perfectly adequate.
@nickgoodwin7062
@nickgoodwin7062 2 жыл бұрын
Good vid bro I like that you added some music too.
@Shot_Gunner
@Shot_Gunner Жыл бұрын
It’s the 12 Gauge Semi-Ottoman empire! 😂
@kevinpwayne
@kevinpwayne 8 ай бұрын
2 years later and the bruise is still visible on his shoulder from the 500 burndowns
@spartanpanda6083
@spartanpanda6083 Жыл бұрын
Mine has never failed to run 2 3/4 or 3inch from bird shot to buck never failed once, unlike most people I clean my guns
@acester86
@acester86 2 жыл бұрын
You should try out one of the low end CZs. You can find CZ 712 utility shotgun for under $500
@usnchief1339
@usnchief1339 2 жыл бұрын
Cool, single shot semiautomatic shotgun. I bet they will take over that niche of the market.
@JesusisLORD77778
@JesusisLORD77778 2 жыл бұрын
"Ill film you shooting it.. Noo.. No... that's a terrible idea. Do you want to?" Ahahaha
@USArmyZ28
@USArmyZ28 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this video and the one about the black aces one and ended up getting a Mossberg 930. The mossberg ran like shit, I put 500 shells of buck through it to break it in and mainly used hornady critical defense and some black aces buckshot. I couldn’t go through one range session without multiple failures. Brought it home and while cleaning it it slipped off my knees (I was cleaning on the floor, don’t ask why) and that 6 inch drop broke the bolt release and then the gun wouldn’t pull any shells from the tube. Not bashing Mossberg because I know my case is probably not the majority and I’ve had 590A1s and even mavericks that gave me years of faithful service. Moral of the story, if you want a solid semi auto shotgun, go with the Italians.
@joshuayarrington9684
@joshuayarrington9684 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a 500 round breakdown of the MKA 1919. It's a 12 Guage in a AR platform.
@jamesbuchanan3145
@jamesbuchanan3145 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah seriously the cheap shotgun debate has been ended. Just buy a Maverick 88 and be done. Nearly as customizable as a 500 , reliable as heck, and comes in a variety of sizes and even a few different colors 🤷🏻‍♂️
@augustinhernandez1581
@augustinhernandez1581 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for what you do. It saves me a lot of time when deciding what to buy
@Lexicologist1971
@Lexicologist1971 2 жыл бұрын
The historical references cracked me up.
@-Bile-
@-Bile- 2 жыл бұрын
Somewhere out there there's got to be a reasonably reliable semiauto shotgun for $500 or less.
@austinfitterer9167
@austinfitterer9167 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, James doesn’t make these videos to find cheap and reliable shotguns; he makes these videos to tell us cheap shit sucks and we’re poor.
@chargerman440
@chargerman440 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a review of the CZ 712 G2! Think it could be just as good as the mossberg or the Beretta you tested.
@c.h.u.d
@c.h.u.d Жыл бұрын
Lol NOBODY makes a more reliable shotty than mossberg
@jamesmanning8795
@jamesmanning8795 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I want to have a beer with James. Shit would be fun.
@DirectedByEyaare
@DirectedByEyaare 2 жыл бұрын
>gun malfunctions >"Repair" by moving part we're unsure even the name of >Performs worse, must be guns fault
@theimplication2581
@theimplication2581 2 жыл бұрын
Good Video. I know exactly what to recommend to a few people for home defense now.
@jamesriggs6210
@jamesriggs6210 2 жыл бұрын
That's why I trust my shotgunning to Mossberg!
@joeylandry5514
@joeylandry5514 2 жыл бұрын
We've seen you burn down the entry mossberg. How about Remington and browning?
@MrJmd116
@MrJmd116 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised I actually saw an ad for an ar15 before the video started
@1nfamyX
@1nfamyX 2 жыл бұрын
3:00 lmfao man i dont watch TFB normally but im thinking i should
@InexorWoW
@InexorWoW 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this holding my fully kitted benelli m4 saying to myself 'such filthy peasantry'.
@davbing8195
@davbing8195 2 жыл бұрын
The Escort Slugger is cheaper, its only 165$ but its also a pump. Still its a decent gun for the price.
@920utdoors9
@920utdoors9 2 жыл бұрын
Ik it's not a cheap shotgun, but I'd like to see James do this with a Winchester SX4
@Rnemhrd
@Rnemhrd 2 жыл бұрын
Local gun store had a pile of these for around tree fiddy. lol
@MarcoH72
@MarcoH72 2 жыл бұрын
I’m looking forward to the sub $150 shotgun test.
@Yorktown-pb8bd
@Yorktown-pb8bd 4 ай бұрын
I have seen where some people have had problems with those shotguns. But most people have good luck with them. Send it back. That one is a lemon. Some people have put 5,000 rounds through them without a hiccup then some people are like what you are experiencing.
@josholdham1033
@josholdham1033 2 жыл бұрын
sounds like the Moss 930 is coming up. Looking forward to it!
@timothypryor7952
@timothypryor7952 2 жыл бұрын
We should do motion capture of these failures for video games.
@yungivanc
@yungivanc 2 жыл бұрын
This shotgun is a Hi-Point of the shotgun family. Possibly worse. At this time I would definitely avoid cheap, imported shotguns. Thanks TFB for making this video.
@jpeg7352
@jpeg7352 2 жыл бұрын
You really need to review the lynx 12. Saiga clone thats understandably priced.
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