Testing the new Oboe bell by Marigaux

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Beyond Oboe

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@GrotrianSeiler 11 ай бұрын

Marin is such a nice player. Something to aspire to. Thanks

@JMaxwell1000 11 ай бұрын

WOW!! From the first few notes of the Strauss I immediately fell in love with the sound of the new bell. FANTASTIC! I hope they'll make it available for my Altuglass oboe as well, which I wouldn't trade for the world. Thank you Marin, and thank you Marigaux for continuing to improve instruments that are already as close to perfection as it gets.

@GeminiStars 11 ай бұрын

I really like the new one. The sound is brighter and sweeter but still having a mellow quality. The old bell after the new one sounded much duller, like the sound was deadened somewhat. I would LOVE to see a visit to Marigaux!

@robintropper660 11 ай бұрын

Surprizingly, I find the old one sounds warmer and more lush. But that could be because of my office head-set : I need to listen again with better ear-phones. What you said about the balance and tuning is incredibly important.

@javierperez6277 11 ай бұрын

You sound great on both but the new one is more flexible, the old one is not bad but sounds more rigid when you compare one against the other⭐️

@susanflaster8900 10 ай бұрын

New bell seems less piercing and more mellow. Nice sound. 2 grams may not sound like much, but it's at the very end of the horn, so influences beyond what you would expect. I play a Bulgheroni Opera, and think THAT is the loveliest oboe sound!

@BeyondOboe 10 ай бұрын

It does influence it quite a lot, it's balanced differently. I would be happy to try Bulgheroni. Also would like to believe that the loveliest sound is produced by the player rather than the instrument.

@susanflaster8900 10 ай бұрын

@@BeyondOboeHard to disagree, but the Bulgheroni has clearly made me a better player! I actually got the instrument from the workshop near Como about a year ago, a wonderful experience.

@retailguillaume 11 ай бұрын

It sounds like a future hole in my bank account 😆 Beautiful playing by the way, good work!

@hansschijve6375 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for this. The New one is more beter than the old one. I like him very well.

@rafverheyden7112 11 ай бұрын

The new one sounds rounder, brighter, clearer. I could recognize it correctly in all the played fragments.

@rikspector 11 ай бұрын

This is a case of your open personal preferences, you know your own sound concepts. The new bell projects more, but both are capable of mellowness . i am a Clarinetist for many years and have different barrels which produce varying tone qualities. Bells on Clarinets, especially Bakuns vary somewhat , but not as much as Oboes. Oboe is more demanding than Clarinet and ease of playing and holding the Oboe are quite important, but ultimately it's the sound that dominates. The thicker Bell would be noticeable, especially since the keys on an Oboe are higher up than on a clarinet. My first time here, you are a gifted musician. Cheers, Frederick "Rik" Spector

@marcogironi3564 11 ай бұрын

Hi, in Strauss and Bizet I prefer and recognized the new one, but in Ravel and the last one I chose the old bell. Anyway in the first and second extracts I notice a difference only in the low notes which have more resonance, not too much in the upper register, but it seems to me that with the new one you have more feeling. Finally I think you play fantastic. Best regards

@christopherbuilder5354 10 ай бұрын

Interesting. I consistently preferred the new one. I’ve got the exact same setup as you do, with the mopane, although my M2 is around six years old.

@BeyondOboe 10 ай бұрын

Lately I have been using the grenadilla top joint more actually, the mopane might need a bore check. It feels a bit hard and tight at the moment.

@pembala 11 ай бұрын

My impression is the new bell adds echo to the sound, which makes it more suitable for a certain repertoire. These romantic pieces shine and are more lively. On the other hand I guess I would choose the old bell for baroque. Would love to hear your thoughts on this. I’d love to make a trip to Paris with you 🇫🇷

@BeyondOboe 10 ай бұрын

These are some observations you have, I would agree that the old bell one has a bit more direct, bright and piercing sound that would be suitable for classical and baroque music.

@JC-yb5zm 11 ай бұрын

Listened to the first recording and thought the new one sounded alot better, in the second recording i was sure the one i liked better was the new bell again..and it wasnt. I think for the average listener wont make any difference atall, the most important thing is how you feel when you play with it, even if it makes you feel 0,1% better and more confortable its worth it.

@BeyondOboe 10 ай бұрын

Totally agree, I personally had to write down which one is which because I personally didn't always recognize them in the recordings, they are pretty close. I prefer the new one mostly for making it easier to play on it and the very slight improvement in the sound.

@joegroves2517 11 ай бұрын

That's incredible! and the new one definitely sounds a bit richer I always assumed that each instrument was made from a single piece of wood as a unit, so there would be a similarity in the material and the fine alignment of the bore, but is that not the case?i

@BeyondOboe 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. What you say would make sense but actually no, the head joints and bells are separately selected to suit the main big part. If you get lucky you can select all of them yourself and yes it's a bit too much choice 😅

@joegroves2517 10 ай бұрын

@@BeyondOboe Thanks for explaining it to me. I'm thinking of getting a new oboe shortly, my first brand new one I hope, so this is good to know!

@bengannonoboist5971 11 ай бұрын

Love your videos, nice to have someone say and review what we’re all thinking… also i really like your whole playing/setup, really beautiful sound.. in the strauss excerpt i actually preferred your original bell but the rest it seemed the new one was a bit richer ? Tempted to ask you to review a howarth oboe but i don’t have spares i can send🥵

@BeyondOboe 10 ай бұрын

I haven't tried a Howarth for a while so I would be curious, I don't have too high expectations though to be honest but who knows, I might be wrong!

@Yuuta9948 11 ай бұрын

古いモデルの方が音が鋭く聞こえますね。音源比較を用いてわかりやすい解説をありがとう。日本の視聴者より。

@reynatoresurreccionjr.9977 11 ай бұрын

can you also make a video about the new gold plated staple of marigaux.... thanks so much

@BeyondOboe 10 ай бұрын

Maybe 🤔

@stefanschulz4523 11 ай бұрын

I was suprised that i actually could tell each time which was the new and which was the old and i actually like the new more

@BeyondOboe 11 ай бұрын

You have a very good ear

@oboeviolin 10 ай бұрын

Sorry, but I prefer the old bell. No.2 seems to sit a little sharp and the C on the staff and the lower notes aren't as warm. Bells make a difference for sure. I use a Howarth bell on my Lorée...

@GrotrianSeiler 11 ай бұрын

I like the new one better It is richer, darker. After listening to the two, I don’t like listening to the older one due to a harshness, in the video anyway. I could hear a difference.

@BeyondOboe 10 ай бұрын

Good ears!

@pembala 11 ай бұрын

Does Marigaux offer different woods for the new bell, too? I’d love to try Cocobolo

@BeyondOboe 11 ай бұрын

For now at least they don't.

@oboer0904 11 ай бұрын

No they don't do cocobolo. I asked then for it, the answer was they will not, because the dust of cocobolo wood might affect the health of their workers. Also, it is hard to find the new bells in grenadilla. I have been Wartung for 8 months to get to try them.

@reynatoresurreccionjr.9977 11 ай бұрын

by the way... i love the sound of the new bell...

@BeyondOboe 10 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@melanierothman8774 4 ай бұрын

Stefan uses a bell made by Suitbert Walter :)

@BeyondOboe 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the update!

@melanierothman8774 3 ай бұрын

Since last watching this video I have actually bought one of the new M2 bells ! It works extremely well on my 2001 (better than the original 2001 bell by a long way).

@pembala 11 ай бұрын

Best instrument? I wonder if there was such thing. It seems to always be an iteration away from. I own a Püchner and Mönnig and the next day disproves my opinion about them. But what is better than to be happy with what you have 🍀

@BeyondOboe 11 ай бұрын

I totally agree! I respect the German made oboe like Ludwig Frank, Mönnig and Puncher. I played on Mönnig for a few years and it was super stable, cracking is not really an issue (you never know) and the mechanic is so well made.What I said is that overall for me personally Marigaux is the best but there is no such thing as "The Best"