Testing VILLAINY inks: GRIMDARK in a bottle?

[@ArtisOpus]

Buy Villainy Inks: elementgames.co.uk/paints-hobby-and-scenery/paints-washes-etc/villainy-inks Tests from friends (well worth checking out for more tips/advice): @SpensPainting: kzbin.info/www/bejne/amrdfaarotalbsU @FauxHammer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/inaWoZxrf9JkipY @thepaintingphase kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYnTmaSeidOrqMU Grimdark Compendium: www.youtube.com/@GrimdarkCompendium The Feral Painter: www.youtube.com/@TheFeralPainter Thanks for watching, we will add useful findings to this pinned comment as you educate us! What should we test next?

[@davethe13th]

@TheFeralPainter kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqK0oqOcnbaKrrMsi=RLWdHUGEcuIny4Gq :)

[@commentingisdangerous7530]

I was wondering if you let the enamel dry first between applications, and were you using spirits on the qtip while cleaning it up?

[@TheAegisClaw]

Old enough to remember when we only had enamels. Humbrol 😂. The first GW acrylics really changed the game. It was so fast when you didnt have long enamel drying times to worry about.

[@isisnmagic1812]

And now humbrol are doing acrylic paints in dropper bottles 😅😅

[@philedwards7331]

Testor's enamels on lead-based Ral Partha minis, oh yeah. 😅

[@commentingisdangerous7530]

Great vid. I love the grimdark compendium too. Just got my villainy inks in the mail!

[@hastur1375]

This video feel like it was made for me specifically. I just got the villainy inks set and am about to buy the stormcast spearhead box. Thanks for ideas!

[@ArtisOpus]

Yeah, boy! Let us know what you decide to do with them both :)

[@spencerevatt5102]

Would love to see you guys test the AK Interactive Weathering Pencils!

[@isisnmagic1812]

Ninjon did a video on them last year, I have the full set and they are awesome tools to have and easy to use.

[@tombrand236]

Great video. Would recommend The Feral Painter for grimdark painting

[@ArtisOpus]

Us too! We have them linked in our description and pinned comment 🥰

[@matthewmutton]

This could be my new favourite way for painting stormcast, I recently discovered Grimdark and this is the best video I've seen yet, I've always enjoyed watching you paint Stormcasts and replicated your methods, this is another superb set of examples on how to get fantastic looking models

[@ArtisOpus]

Cheers buddy! There's a lot you could do to adjust this to suit your needs too, whatever they are :). A bit of basing and some weathering on the feet 🤌🤌

[@ForgedInFlamesTTG]

This is the best Video? Check Out Zatcaskagoon Miniatures. He releases the villany ink. That IS true grimdark. Because grimdark IS way more than Just apply streaking grime.

[@stephenkilbey2321]

For someone who doesn't use enamel very often I think you did a great job and I love your excitement. The goons grime is a better streaking grime

[@ArtisOpus]

[@TetsugakuSan]

More of this please, just the sort of thing I love to see, more techniques, more finishes, great.

[@piercetibma4321]

Man those inks looked great. I would love to try them out unfortunately none of my local hobby shops have it yet. I would love to see more of these sorts of blended method videos from you all where you try these sorts of products to produce interesting results.

[@ArtisOpus]

Where are you from buddy? Let us know in another comment, replies get lost

[@piercetibma4321]

@@ArtisOpus Tampa, Florida! I got to meet some of your team at LVO this January and have loved your brush and board. It's really helpful in upping my dry brushing.

[@michellehartog5907]

Looks very nice! Can't wait to try them out once they are available.

[@ArtisOpus]

They're already out and about in the world :) enjoy!

[@EpyonCF]

I would love to see a comparison video between Oils, Inks and classic Washes, trying to bring out the best of all of them and going over what are the up and downsides of them. This would really help to pick the right tool for the job! Doing it on a metallic base (stormcast or 30k metallic legion or admech) would be a bonus!

[@Scherdnr]

Nice review! I’d like to see a drybrush tutorial for OSL on a grimdark piece so that it still keeps that dark and moody style and not look too out of place!

[@MikeLanzarotta-fc8xp]

Thank you I just bought my set today and I can’t wait to get it and try them

[@ArtisOpus]

How did they go buddy? Did you shake them for the required 30minutes? 😅

[@MikeLanzarotta-fc8xp]

@@ArtisOpus did not receive yet

[@batjutsu]

Fab, I've yet to try this method, but plan to do soon 😃 Thank you for another great tutorial 😃

[@ArtisOpus]

Cheers buddy! Feral Painter just uploaded a goon slap video that's a nice addition if you're after some more :)

[@samueljackson605]

Villainy Ink is by far the best product I've used in a long time, totally brought my models up to another level and they're super easy to use, almost zero effort to put out near professional grade models

[@skynes]

Really great seeing you try those products! Especially thank you for tagging others have used them, I'm going to check all those out now that I've finished the video!

[@tommasomartini9872]

Beautiful! But are these really better than oils?

[@ArtisOpus]

Not better, just different :)

[@craigcook5121]

Wicked finished minis at the end as always. Makes me want to break out my Dominion box and start storm cast dudes and dudettes. Always love the tips and tricks you share.

[@LemanoftheRussVI]

Great tip on the q tip rolling ! Nice.

[@SunChaserXVII]

Wow, that gold basecoat coverage is amazing. Gotta try that out. I've never seen a metallic basecoat go on that fast and easy before.

[@Moonkeypaints]

This gold looks so good, very tempted to get some of these! Great vid, thanks!

[@darrenj3720]

Ok I'm about to be reallllllyyyy biased here. But. Sector rust on any vehicle. That stuff is my new favourite rust weathering product. This is a great vid though. Gives people a nice taste of some of the possibilities that can (imo) be achieved very easily.

[@wolf-xf6hf]

For rust I’m probably still going with dirty downs rust

[@ArtisOpus]

We will test this in the future!

[@lilpain1997]

​@wolf-xf6hf yeah that thing literally dries like rust. I put some on a helmet heavily ( helmet was for a base) and started rubbing away with a brush and water to make it look less in areas and ig literally looks like rust. It's crazy how good it is.

[@chalkdemon8019]

Interesting, I’m about to use Tamiya weathering powder myself.

[@piercetibma4321]

@ArtisOpus I am from Tampa, Florida. I actually got to meet some of your team at LVO in January. Your board and brush set, as well as the bit of instruction you provided was really helpful. I am sure Spraygunner will eventually get them though, they're an amazing shop and something I definitely recommend visiting if you're in the area ever.

[@ArtisOpus]

Thanks so much buddy! I will see if our team can reach out to Spray gunner:)

[@christianlinton9620]

Liking this something I've havnt dome before but looking forward to trying it

[@F.S.P.73]

I am really enjoying your videos! I'd love to see a video about basing with different techniques and using and showing how to apply grass flock (maybe static), different tufts, leaf litter, plants...

[@Joe_Smo]

I think this is a good entry point product into Grim Dark with readymade variety and seems pretty easy straight forward. I like it. What I really liked too was the Drakenhoff over gold to make silver! That is excellent thank you, I will use that on a Chaplin I'm currently working on. I want some parts steel and some gold will be easy to base all gold and DHK shade only the parts I want steel/silver.

[@alphaleigpyne]

That's very good grimdark ink wash over the Stormcast Liberator model. I need to get more involve using inks medium. Thank you for showing your work.

[@OlafThorsson3]

Using enamels and oils is such a liberating experience once you get the handle of it. Great to know how it dries too as I was wanting to step away from the chalky look. Top tip I found was to to varnish with stormshield as it doesn't bead as much. Then you can carry on with acrylics as if thinners were never applied 🫡

[@mr_geekchic2899]

Started a Custodes force and this Grimdark is great inspiration :)

[@FunnyValentineD4C]

I would really like to see how to dry brush warm gold armor, like Commander Dante, or the Stormcast Eternals. I can never get my gold armor to match the box art.

[@dirkbangert9090]

Awesome! Thank you😊

[@ArtisOpus]

Our pleasure, buddy :)

[@elgatoire21]

So before you put the enamel ink do you seal it with a clear coat

[@ArtisOpus]

Nope! I didn't here

[@gigartina]

I love these villainy inks! I use oil washes and AK, but his colours really fill some colour voids. I love the crimson and coelia. And he really uses good quality products for his binders and media.

[@TejrnarG]

Leaveless shirt? Did it crack 16 degrees in the UK? ; )

[@ArtisOpus]

Mate, pushing a balmy 22 today!!!!!

[@elibarker201]

A friend and I are really into frostgrave atm. Would love a video comparing some different snow products and how to use each one!

[@chrisfowler9987]

What's the benefits of these over premixing oil and spirits in dropper bottles?

[@ArtisOpus]

That you don't have to do that mainly 😅. Probably the finish is the most unique aspect when compared to other options, although you could use different mediums or varnishes of course

[@chrisfowler9987]

@@ArtisOpus haha fair enough!

[@eldarmark]

Here's a challenge: Someone once suggested to me Gunpla (Gundam model kit) supplies for Warhammer 40k stuff. Specifically, they suggested instead of shading, of using Tamaya Panel Line Accent Colors, which are a form of enamel based inks that come in the same glass jars that their excellent plastic cement comes in, complete with a tiny brush. They're meant to go into the grooves of military model kits and gunpla, accentuating the grooves while not otherwise affecting the color of the models at all. They suggested that using say, Black, in the recesses and grooves of Space Marine armor, or Grey in brighter colors, or Brown in golds, and avoiding using shades such as nuln oil entirely, would look significantly better, as it wouldn't affect your paint job like a shade can, leaving say, metallics as extremely bright. I guess the way you use them is you tap the brush gently near the recessed areas and edges, the enamel paint flows like mad into it using capillary action, and then if needed you use a q-tip with some solvent (IPA I guess?) to wipe off any excess. Would love to see someone more talented than I give that a go.

[@javierramos6993]

Is there a video where you paint those blue miniatures in the background? They look nice

[@akuchanny]

I’d love to see a video combining your multi layered approach to dry brushing from the Star Wars terrain video, and contrast paints over a miniature for a more subtle and nuanced look to slap chopping and how to add inks and washes into that process to get an even better effect.

[@Pork-Pie-Pete81]

Thanks for the video. I picked up a set of villany Inks at UKGE from Element Games. I have been playing with them for a few weeks now, mainly on my flesh eater courts. They look great over metalic. I may have to grim up the new stormcast using this method. As for future tutorials, I would like to see more weathering, such as dust rust or grime techniques.

[@will.smith.]

Looks great byron

[@MrWilliamkilliam]

I would like to see some additional OSL tutorials to compliment the first one you posted. With the new Skaven models on the way, I’d love to see how you would approach an OSL effect on more complex shapes or from multiple angles. For example, how would you go about representing the glow of warpstone from below and the light from a burning torch or brazier above? The channel is great, and I always learn a ton. Thanks!

[@chucklamb3496]

Thanks Byron, great effect!

[@CharlieSanchez]

Hey Byron! My recommendation for some technical/how to videos would be something Blood Bowl related. Small model count, creating fun, vibrant team uniforms, tying in a cohesive themes while giving each model a unique feel. More interesting basing ideas beyond static grass with white lines. Could also do some of your dry brushing tutorials for some of the stadia, scoreboard huts that are available. Personally I'm also not experienced with many of the water transfers you get for the players (numbers, team badges etc) so tips on how best to use those would be great. Keep up the positive, friendly energy on the channel.

[@armholeeio]

How does it compare to something like liquitex inks?

[@ArtisOpus]

Completely different, you can't remove them like this (reductive painting)

[@isisnmagic1812]

I would love to see you oaint the gryph hound from the new scaventide box.

[@anguskaro4656]

First time I've seen these inks, and you've kind of sold them to me. Always thought enamel and oil washes were daunting.

[@ArtisOpus]

Absolutely nothing to worry about! Pick a simple start like this one, have a play, and enjoy it :).

[@ghazevedo]

It wpuld be nice to watch a video mixing the new Skaven in grimdark usina Villainy Inks

[@ao-b2774]

I'd like a video on quickly painting an army. Especially practical bits like keeping your paint on the dry pallet moist. I find it hard to maintain the dry brush and sponge effectively if I paint for longer than ~20(?) minutes. Have started putting my colours on a wet pallet if a long session. How do you 'go back' if you realise you missed a step on some models (or like, missed a leg on one model). That sort of thing. How do you also pick the colour scheme and the basing approach? And how do you make sure you can replicate what you've done for new additions in the future?

[@edwardboon2204]

How do you think these inks compare with an oil paint wash?

[@ArtisOpus]

Fairly comparable, obviously if you are mixing yourself you can make things more/less strong easily, which is countered bu these being consistent always and saving effort. Just worth considering what your typical uses are, and what suits you most. Plus the crimson is 🤌🤌🤌🥰

[@MrSfxer]

Which video covers how to use drakenhof nightshade to turn gold into steel in more detail?

[@ArtisOpus]

This is a screw up on our part, and should now be fixed with a card at the relevant point: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmWxd6Kii6yggZIsi=5-6V1gkuWK8NF2lD

[@MrSfxer]

@@ArtisOpus Thanks for update, and the tip! Going to try that technique out on a spare intercessor and see what happens

[@cedricvoglet4675]

Hello, I just discovered your channel some days ago and already watched many of your videos! Thank you for your work, they all helped me understanding this all painting process :) I recently acquired a lot of really nice board games with ton of miniatures that I'd like to paint but I still got a question : Would you have a good recommendation for primer ? (I was thinking first a black primer and a white primer depending on the minis I'd like to paint but also saw you using other colored primers in another video so any help's welcome regarding this :)) Thank you!

[@cedricvoglet4675]

Oops, forgot to mention I'm looking for cans as I don't own an airbrush (and don't really want to invest in one atm) and heard many really bad stories about brush priming 😅

[@ericluczaj]

Thanks for the video. How did using these compare to using Newsh? And how was the cleanup time/experience? Even though the use you have shown seems very approachable, I remember using enamels in the past and absolutely hated the cleanup and the clumpy brushes. Pretty sure I have an old thinner bottle around here that dark smokey from dipping the brush while painting and cleaning it after.

[@basicminiaturepainting]

Bkw long did you leave the ash on before using the cotton bud?

[@kmykz]

I'm almost willing to buy the box just for how it opens 😂

[@darrenj3720]

Do it!

[@kmykz]

@@darrenj3720 sadly, cannot use spirits here. Without it, that's just half the fun.

[@ArtisOpus]

You even know the sound it will make when you run a thumbnail down it... Brrrrrr! Satisfying. Bunch of sensory nerds, aren't we 🤓

[@cannedfaith7182]

Make-up sponges like for eye shadow work better than q-tips. Try ‘em

[@ArtisOpus]

I did and they smeared... I think mine were too cheap and low quality perhaps... tips?

[@TheDewok12]

I'd love to see you review the Vallejo color shift paints. I have another brand of them that are ok, but wondering if the Vallejo ones might be worth it.

[@Faily-SnowFox]

Kinda tempted to try inks for my Custodes now.

[@qwijoma1873]

Nice video. Have you used oils and just created your own washes? I do that for most of my effects like oil, patina, etc.

[@GrimBear89]

Cool vid! How would you varnish this scheme? Thinking something similar for custodes

[@ArtisOpus]

Because it's mostly in the recesses I juat wouldn't bother, I come from a gaming background, and even with handling this would be fine I think

[@andrewstuber]

how would you compare the Villainy Ink to Liquitex?

[@thomsonelite]

I like the idea of the product alot. I haven't jumped on the oil wagon myself, mostly because I'm afraid that a clear varnish will dull the vibrant colours I'm using. Great vid. How much pressure are you putting on the brushes, when you want to lay down a base coat ? Also, for a future tutorial, let's tackle either a strong lightning effect or feathers. We might be in dire need of awtherwings for 4th edition 😂

[@jaggillarbullar]

Thanks for the video! Great stuff as always. I'd be interested to see a review of Scale75 's Soilworks oil washes.

[@Crushanator1]

wow, i think i figured out my scheme for the warcry Blacktalons. these look great and easy. Way more so than doing my normal Eavy Metal style, ehich takes FOREVER and doesnt look super great on primarily metal models anyway

[@ArtisOpus]

Glad we could help buddy, the mini from this tutorial is my fastest of this year, I was really pleased with the effort Vs result 🥰

[@Hamlecikhc]

I have no idea why after they dry 24h they become almost white ( I was testing "Decay of Death") in the recesses and loose all the pigment effect of shade definiton. It's almost like pigment evaporates and white residue stays. Any idea what I am doing wrong here?

[@ArtisOpus]

Did you shake/mix the hell out of them? It's so important

[@ancientmusketeer6564]

We were using black paint in matt varnish in the 1970's to define armour on wargaming figures. Everything that goes around etc.

[@surrealroad]

They are superb. Nuln oil is dead to me since trying out ichor of the damned. I've painted a few minis just using these washes alone and the results are great.

[@ArtisOpus]

Amazing to hear! I am so in love with the crimson 😍

[@alpharequiem1749]

Work better then AK ink?

[@tam653m]

Absolutely love it! Soooo appreciate your tutorials. This pushed me to finally order a set of Villainy Inks. Curious how you announce the winner of the give-away...

[@knightsljx]

I would have liked to try these but the prices are prohibitively high when there are so many enamel wash products out there from various brands. and there's also the infinite supply method in oil paints and mineral spirits

[@Iggins]

so can these be used with the SlapChop method?

[@ArtisOpus]

100%. In fact Feral Painter just dropped a video on goonchop! Check it out :)

[@corbingovers7559]

Could you please show the differences between going super bright and not quite super bright in normal lighting? Ive found that a lot of people trying to emulate this style make armies that look good in studio style lighting but become brown mush in neutral lighting.

[@ShipWreck68]

Its funny because all of us old model painters who've paint armored tanks and airplanes have been using this technique our whole life! Why is this just now being rediscovered?

[@ArtisOpus]

Because a huge proportion of us discovered 'scale minis' via GW, so we have the blessing of 'discovering' military modelling techniques and how incredible they are :D

[@ForgedInFlamesTTG]

Because the wargames only know the GW way to Paint 😂😂😂🤮

[@leesiddall8571]

Been trying grimdark on my SoH but struggle with going bright enough early on. May have to pick some of these up, any suggestions for getting a grimey green?

[@darrenj3720]

Decay of death is a great green but could be too dry for your taste. that said coelia green applied several times with a little brown/black could work.

[@leesiddall8571]

Thanks much appreciated, been using might Dark shade but can never get it right with that

[@darrenj3720]

@@leesiddall8571 I've been using these for the last month almost non stop trying different combinations and there's definitely a use for all but it's getting the combination that you want that's the tricky parts. I tend to paint desert themed minis (thus dry is great) if you're really looking at a green slime effect (heresy incoming) then may I recommend AK green slime? Think the green on wood left in the rain for a while and you get the idea. *Slimy grime

[@leesiddall8571]

Cheers many thanks for the info, I'll have a look at picking some up and giving it a go

[@DungeonMasterJohnny]

You missed a part on his right hand side that should have been changed to silver 😅

[@ArtisOpus]

Not the only thing I missed on this mini 😅😅

[@-moongorilla-]

Selfish review/tutorial recommendation: cracked earth basing, specifically for making large cracks. I'm planning to base my Skaven from Skaventide with big glowing green cracks as though the ground is about to tear itself apart with warpstone energy, but having trouble getting good/consistent results. The typical GW products seem to be thinner and give smaller cracks, I've tried following Trovarion's method using Golden Crackle Paste, and Midwinter Minis' method using corn starch, and a combination of the two, and have had some decent results, but equally many failures, even from base to base using the same method - it feels very random. So yeah, would really appreciate some help figuring out the secret!

[@shauntaylor9251]

Are the Villainy Inks really worth 13 quid a bottle when Soilworks are only 4 quid ? Would be good to see a comparison video

[@ArtisOpus]

Good question, these seem to work fantastically, and I like that they have a slightly different finish to most, along with the intelligent selection. I don't imagine I will run out of any unless I start airbrushing it all over and producing armies... but you could say that about most comparable products apart from dirty down:)

[@theboredlich215]

I would like to see you try dry brushing with oil paint. NotJustMecha mentioned it gave very very smooth results.

[@Vicky1138thx]

I agree about the greaves , such nice detailing 👍

[@ArtisOpus]

Sabatons for life!

[@elizabethnorn3036]

I wonder how much the of the £80 price for the set goes towards paying content creators to advertise them.

[@ArtisOpus]

I am not sure if you understand how this company works, check out their history - after years of making grim dark tutorials he learned large scale production so he could make what he thought were the best products for his style, Kickstarted them, and has now got them out into the world. Pretty sure he isn't currently paying anyone

[@yoshiwiseful]

cool info i may have to buy now mahalo

[@alsafyche]

pretty disappointed I just bought the villiany inks a couple weeks ago and when mine arrived they don't have the dropper bottles. A whole set cost so much and i didn't eve get what was on the website pictures.

[@kainoctis7724]

its like £13 a bottle, fk that

[@nickdavis5420]

Mmm anything that has to do with villainy I’m here for .

[@ArtisOpus]

🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️☠️🦜!

[@FazonaIz]

Hey! Can you pls do a Testing video for ak interactive real Color markers? :)

[@_i_m_]

Looks great but can't say I see much of Grim dark in the model. Well I guess it really depends on what exactly you define as grim and dark heh.

[@ArtisOpus]

I think a heavier and braver application is in order, and a proper GD base

[@SkitZHitZ]

Damn you missed the silver around the sword, i was hoping you stacked a few layers of the crimson around the hammer and bottom of the shield as it shield bashed someone

[@laurabrand3007]

Something with Monument Transparent set pleeeease ☺️ loving them so far but only just scratched the surface

[@crispy_338]

It’s crazy that people are intimidated by using solvent based paints. It’s the same as using acrylics except you have to actually pay attention to your thinner and substrate

[@ArtisOpus]

Dispelling this intimidation was #1 goal with this vid. People are missing out on fun 😁

[@crispy_338]

@@ArtisOpus Yeah exactly! Using different types of paints unlocks an entirely new set of techniques

[@DinoCopRulezTheWORLD]

Is thi Transcast Eternal? :D Did you choose female body and male head? :D :D :D

[@ArtisOpus]

Not knowingly 😅

[@oldmate86]

They look great, but nothing I can’t achieve without shades and contrasts from the other brands.

[@wesadie]

These look super interesting, may have to throw some cash at Element.

[@TheFeralPainter]

Evening

[@ArtisOpus]

CHECK THIS GUY'S CONTENT OUT VILLAINS! 👌 🥰

[@jamesn2830]

Looks nice mate but that’s the female stormcast body so that head on there is abit odd

[@ArtisOpus]

You Sir, are correct. He has big pectorals from all that hammer work...?

[@andreaskarlsson6352]

Using cotton to wipe the oils destroy the beautiful, natural transitions. Instead, paint the base layers way brighter and let the oils bring it down. Hope it makes sense

[@ArtisOpus]

It does! But what if I want them mainly in the recesses?

[@darkseas3846]

Can’t watch unless the sound is off 😂He always sounds like he’s just woken up 😂

[@Sqalman]

Nice vid! I´d really like to see a video on working with oil washes from scratch! like mixing oil tube paints and creating differnt washes! :)

[@lilpain1997]

Personally, for me, grimdark isn't what the grimdark compendium puts out. Slathering the mini in enamels and oils and making it all blend together and loose details does not = grimdark. Trovarions grimdark is actually grimdark as its still very readable from a distance but grim and dark. Not saying you can't use these or shouldn't, they look great but use them in a way that wont destroy the mini

[@sidewinder3694]

Agreed

[@ArtisOpus]

What do you think of our approach here?

[@lilpain1997]

@ArtisOpus this is great imo. I see people say it's not grimdark, but it does fit it nicely. It's desaturated, dark, but still visible. No details lost. I'll have to get the inks as I do a lot of grimdark and they are nice products it seems

[@miketike3246]

Um, I was just on their website. This company is going to have a problem. Can't name your colors after directly copied GW names. Would not be surprised if they get a letter from GW's legal dept. before too long.

[@ArtisOpus]

Which one? GW don't have the word 'Coelia', that's the only one I can think of.

[@miketike3246]

Ohh man, you know what? I was looking at the starter set and I saw the available course bundles, and I thought those were the names of the inks! My bad!!