[Tetris 99] Side-to-side comparison: Doremy vs. amemiya (あめみや) (4-minutes advantage 1v1)

[@Doremy]

full view of my game: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZbWeWevjtJpZ5Y full view of amemiya's game: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJfGZGywrst-mJY also that J placement at 11:56 is exactly what killed me. if i placed it upwards i would've survived

[@zonutclaw]

Did you intend to miss the pc at 8:47?

[@Doremy]

@@zonutclaw nope

[@fluffysergal3081]

At 9:44, you get a t-spin double and send 4 lines of garbage, even though you had max badges. Is this a glitch or some other thing I'm not aware about? I've had it happen in a recent match for me as well.

[@toxicsl4yer900]

Fluffy Sergal he actually went for a t-spin single so therefore he only sent 4

[@fluffysergal3081]

@@toxicsl4yer900 Damn didn't catch that. Thanks

[@godfreya.1599]

Normal people misplaced block: **panik** Doremy and Amemiya "misplaced" block: i see this as an opportunity to do a triple T-spin

[@MualaniOsu]

That's how i see every single pro

[@Toka-MK]

That moment when amemiya recognizes Doremy from his playing style is anime AF.

[@imanidiotandiagreewithyoubut]

Toka-MK time stamp please

[@kamillebidan2413]

@@imanidiotandiagreewithyoubut 7:45

[@imanidiotandiagreewithyoubut]

Kamille Bidan thank very much kind sir!

[@codetaku]

At the same time, it makes sense that a god-tier like amemiya would be able to do that.

[@teclinsoro4523]

I’m an idiot and i must agree with you, but i love your name so much dude

[@ItIsMyHandle]

4:23 Amemiya says: "The player on the left side, a little below the center stacks pretty fast and has many badges. He may be Doremy-kun, I expect, considering his stacking speed."

[@ItIsMyHandle]

​@@HDFlood_ That can be good to explain the situation, but not suitable to translate accurately, because he didn't say "three" or "75%", not even once. (I'm a Japanese native speaker)

[@Lotoplus0]

@@HDFlood_ He didn’t explicitly say 75 % but “...バッジごり押し権 取ってるんでね…” “...Bajji gori-oshi-ken totterundene... ”, and gori-oshi-ken seems to be meaning 3 badges

[@阿漕-o5e]

Loto I think his words(バッジごり押し権) mean Doremy's up% is higher than Amemiya. ［ごり押し］:by force, insist on, persist on…etc

[@Lotoplus0]

@@阿漕-o5e There is a subtle difference between "バッジごり押し権" and "ごり押し" in that context, I believe. I found an interesting video where he used both terms, I hope you'll enjoy it : kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHm7fYCidqqnfMk At 2:44, he speaks about the 75% and at 7:00, he refers to ごり押し you mentionned. From what I gathered : バッジごり押し権 : 75% : 3 badges 神権 : 100% : 4 badges

[@白猫で煽る弁護士]

Loto I think you're right. Amemiya probably uses the word "ゴリ押し権"(gorioshiken) for 75%, and "人権"(jinken) for 100% bonus. I'm a native speaker, but I can't say for sure because it's probably some kind of in-game slang.

[@たけニコ]

7:42 amemiya said "Oh, no. I couldn't get a badge. I thihk the last one is doremy. That stacking speed and pattern is his play style. I have to battle with doremy but I have only 75%…… This is so hard."

[@keshyy5173]

I love u

[@senorlechuga8832]

That quote sounds like taken out from an anime for some reason lol

[@akivirus7020]

@@senorlechuga8832 Totally, just read it with drama and thats it

[@gpow13]

@@akivirus7020 legit same i read that so dramatically

[@HebiSnake]

They play fast enough for it to be an anime lmao

[@Fauzan1812]

this feels like normal 1v1 but you torture 97 people first as an opener

[@stiffels0ear]

These two are doing world competitions every day.

[@jacquelineliu2641]

LOL you're saying the same things the Japanese people were saying under Amemiya's videos

[@opabeleza6902]

@@jacquelineliu2641 wtf

[@lolwutman]

I love the mutual respect between you and amemiya in these games, both sides know the other can easily win if they get overconfident and it leads to really good games

[@smudged4090]

It's like they could be anime characters. The protagonist and the friendly rival. They can get competitive, but at the end of the day, they respect each other

[@apollocreed7668]

No.

[@atrivia]

@@apollocreed7668 🥲

[@_opechan_]

the way he calls you "Doremi-kun" is so cute

[@ZianJannah]

Is it wrong to ship them.

[@ZianJannah]

Im kidding i just think they have a great friendship.

[@joebbiden5505]

Fucking weeaboos

[@insertgenericnamehere5322]

Isnt kun put after male names of which are higher status than you.

[@_opechan_]

@@insertgenericnamehere5322 no, its for males thats somewhat ur friend, more informal than -san, but still more polite than not using any honorifics

[@justarandomweebyay5372]

Tetris 99 more like: 1v 1 + 97 lootcrates

[@pirilon78]

LOL

[@mechanicalmacbook]

As a new T99 player I can confirm that I'm one of the lootcrates no seriously

[@rxnfr2913]

@@mechanicalmacbook yeah im one of the lootcrate too,since i always placed in >90 LOL

[@moonlightnymph7975]

lootcrate gang

[@daicha0528]

4:23 Amemiya found Doremy

[@JetFalcon710]

I find it kinda cute how he says "Doremy-kun"

[@lalajun5902]

Ouch, that misdrop at the end

[@EricSmyth2Christ]

It was over anyways

[@NBSgamesAT]

Eric Smyth he could recover but that misdrop made it right impossible.

[@jedders3192]

NBSgamesAT I’m convinced if he recovered this game would go on for another 12 mins

[@arturbarcelos2636]

Person : does everything really well Also person : misses 1 thing Everyone : WRITE THAT DOWN

[@junkyyard2273]

@@arturbarcelos2636 1 miss causes a lot of things to go down, bro. Mistakes aside, these two are like two martial artists fighting.

[@stephennoyes9131]

You guys aren't playing the same game that the rest of us are...

[@phuuc8075]

for them the game is a 1v1 with 97 lootboxs...

[@Pakkens_Backyard]

@@phuuc8075 lootboxes ROFL

[@bennywarren9870]

@@phuuc8075 😂🤣☠️☠️

[@4Grampus]

Yeah my pokemon battles look a lot different 😕

[@jacquelineliu2641]

At the end Amemiya said: "I really worked hard on this! Super hard!"

[@ChannelLuna78]

1:19 あめみやさん の途中パフェ 1:55 Doremyさんの途中パフェ 2人とも途中でパフェとれるのすごいですね！ It's a amazing!

[@aoi_yamada032]

6:48から3人 　7:40から1vs1 6:48　 　　　 7:40

[@Botassiumm]

Why do I even watch these anymore, all it does it just make me feel worst about my tetris skills

[@ahmetgrcn2663]

Amemiya plays like a normal human being, just so fast. Doremy plays like a mad man.

[@derpaderpy4931]

This comment is more for the people in this comment section; Thank you, thank you SO MUCH for translating some of the things being said. Knowing little to no Japanese myself, it really helps paint a picture showing just how much respect these two have for each other, making this battle so much more exciting and even wholesome as a result.

[@elijahramsey9881]

I wanted to watch Tetris but found an anime battle between rivals

[@スライムです-b2q]

神は積み方とかで誰だかわかるのかすげぇなw

[@レジギガス大好きまん]

何より試合中に罪方まで見てるのがやばい

[@美麗-y4z]

4:24

[@user-qy3xw4vx8t]

しかもコメントも見てるっていうね

[@しぐれう]

Tetrisって人口少ないのか？ いや天才が少ないだけか

[@-nure-7012]

DoremyさんはRENを組まないのにクソ強いからわかりやすい

[@Kinkajou1015]

I love when you post these so we can compare both play styles side by side.

[@dubstep298_tetradct]

Kinkajou1015 Don’t forget that these are edited by the same person who made (and curates) Zetris, one of the best Tetris AI ever made.

[@frgal1336]

You can definitely see the different playing styles here. Doremy likes to build it up to get more combos whilst amemiya Likes to get rid of lines as quickly as possible at the start and builds it up a bit then gets rid of them again, and start getting rid of lines quickly again, kind of like a loop.

[@MegaScytheman]

also kind of a symptom of the different number of badges, doremy had the freedom to keep building setups for t-spins but amemiya had no choice but to constantly clear garbage and do a 4 wide

[@boncura821]

あめみやさん、本気で強い相手と闘ってる時は無言になるの面白いね

[@yameneko8620]

kazuフレアレベルになると逆に喋る

[@パンダだ-k4t]

yameneko 負けたときの言い訳

[@ussao]

@@パンダだ-k4t え、

[@Prodawg]

"Yeah, i'm okay at tetris"

[@Hekza0024]

I consider myself good at tetris (especially for my age) It’s just doremy-kun and amemiya are gods

[@jamesbouk]

I’ve never seen a better Tetris player

[@もんちゃん-u8i]

11:59Doremy君の置きミス

[@syusyu365]

惜しかったっすにぇ～

[@candyjimenez9963]

How come Amemiya called Doremy "Doremy-kun"? Also, every time that Amemiya always says "hoi hoi hoi" or something I always care about him

[@RedLuminous]

What should he call him?

[@thisisdefinitelynotgale]

the -kun part is an honorific that Japanese people use and the “hoi hoi hoi” he says is an expression for him, kind of like a phrase you say when you encounter something interesting.

[@stormcloudsabound]

Adrianne Gale Servillon Well yes, but -kun is used as a diminutive for younger siblings or as an affectionate honorific. Why would Amemiya use it for a rival, I’m wondering.

[@cocoa573]

this is the first video ive watched regarding ameniya battling doremy but what i can kinda tell is that both of them know each other maybe not to the point theyre friends but yeah just know some about each other. -kun is a honorific for yes a lowerclassman or affectionate but since they know each other that passes the -san range its more reasonable to use doremy-kun. sorry i dont have much vocab lol

[@ishdx9374]

@@stormcloudsabound asserting dominance

[@firewall5189]

"ようしゃかった!" you guys have a really intense, but still friendly, rivalry going on and i love it

[@thecommentato4]

So hop from Pokemon sw&sh

[@ajyobard3799]

なんだかんだこの2人の2画面動画好き＆2人とも途中パフェ取ってるの謎

[@中島良憲]

神にハミングさせないんだもんな　それだけでどれだけ強いかわかる

[@Fanaticalight]

8:46 when you prefer T spin instead of PC

[@hakunosuke893]

せやな、なんでパフェ取らなかったのか不思議やわ

[@たーくんだよぉ]

判断ミスかな

[@nintenchris5963]

It’s the same for CPUs in Puyo Puyo Tetris.

[@こねつクレープ]

アメミヤさんは読みながら戦うという神しか出来ないことをしてある

[@ynom1295]

神をして｢よっしゃー！｣って言わせる勇者Doremy兄貴すげぇと思った

[@righteyeball]

when theres only 2 left amemiya knew that it was Doremy How?????

[@quantumhornet211]

Dongwook Lee only doremy is that good in t99 im guessing

[@asdfqwerzzz2]

He was really good and not using 4 wide

[@이진용-h7u]

4분33초에 쌓는 속도나 손속도가 도레미군같데요

[@_opechan_]

he said thqt the stacking looks like it could be Doremy

[@kos2919]

A kaiju acknowledge another kaiju

[@nobu_silence]

最終的にこの2人の一騎打ちになるのが目に見えてる件

[@ardo3105]

NOOOOO THE MISDROP IN THE LAST SECOND

[@ssrxshadow]

Can we all just appreciate that 1:24 T-Spin?????? Edit: TWICE! Edit2: Okay. Doremy's T-Spins are just fkn insane.

[@paulstelian97]

Many god tier players do the occasional triple (and I think quad, if it's even possible)

[@TheYeetiest]

I apologise for sticking in a random subject where it's not needed, but I definitely see the distance that Sui-chan (Hoshimachi Suisei, VTuber known for Tetris among Hololive) wants to travel before competing with or challenging gods like both of them here.

[@kordact]

Hello fellow vtuber fand

[@かわゆー-n9w]

4:23 神の予想

[@amariX.]

That poor 3rs place guy, I noticed both of these players were targeting them, and the 3rd place lasted a decent amount of time against them 2 :o

[@souleymanediawara7714]

how amemiya know it was you?snipe stream?or someone in his chat told him?btw good match here

[@paulprof]

Amemiya says "The person on the middle-left area (approximately) is setting up the pieces pretty quick, I'm guessing it might be Doremy-kun". It wasn't 100% clear to him And at the end when Doremy takes the 3rd position KO he says he feels it's probably because it's Doremy

[@HebiSnake]

Top tier players of any game can identify each other simply by seeing how they play.

[@takemehome5749]

Since Amemiya recognizes Doremy's playstyle, they instantly know that it was Doremy.

[@comradezvezda]

I think it's because doremy has sniped him a lot in the past so he recognizes him

[@fanaticsays315]

7:43 Now is the time, two titans meet - as it was written.

[@conrifor]

I wish I could play like them. It looks so satisfying

[@921cater]

あめみやさんと互角にテトリスできるのすごい！！

[@devi_handmademonster]

世界2位だからね

[@ben_has_hobbies]

That was some epic stuff. Love to see it. Two of the greats.

[@aki5876]

I never thought there is someone who could actually compete against Amemiya....

[@sugurukase1046]

Jotaro: oraoraora amemiya: hoihoihoi

[@mizu_yt]

Alternative title : Amemiya suffering for 12 minutes 15 seconds

[@JazzyJosh3296]

(And then winning)

[@kuhaku9635]

Doremy : I'm a god Amemiya : *I'm your father*

[@ryuzenichinose9697]

I love watching them play Even though I have no idea how the hell Tetris works This is awesome

[@YamiDarkness64]

0:00 Doremy's Side : *K.O. Faciles / Aléatoire / Ripose / Chevrons* Me : *OMFG DOREMY IS FRENCCHH* I think I'm late

[@teslalive3530]

Hanzo, im french K.O Faciles -> Easy K.O Aléatoire -> Random Riposte (and no ripose) -> I don’t konw! Chevrons -> Horse? My english is bad, sorry

[@YamiDarkness64]

@@teslalive3530 I'm french too x)

[@seneca983]

@@teslalive3530 I don't speak French, but I'm guessing "riposte" means something like "counter-attack". I'm also guessing "chevron" is maybe some kind of badge. I think in the English version those options are labelled as: "KOs", "Random", "Attackers", and "Badges".

[@marshvif]

when amemiya stops saying "hoya hoya orrrraaa" you know shits going down

[@zeeker0315]

The music made everything so much better lol

[@JPK314]

What is Amemiya doing better to win with disadvantage? Is he placing pieces faster? Is 4w just a better strat (if he is actually using it more than doremy)? I can't see a significant difference between their play that would allow such a victory, but I definitely don't have a good eye for it (I'm pretty much a total noob in Tetris)

[@gabrielcabral6142]

I found out that amemiya was always stalling in the right moments. He is not faster than doremy by any means, he just plays more efficiently

[@yuunana0525]

やっぱりいつものように早い…てあれ？何か遅く見えるぞ…まさか！強くなっt…瞬殺されました

[@flowplayz3140]

0:35 *Ah! Ah! He Said it! He Said it!*

[@Clashkiller2000]

8:47 RIP perfect clear for doremy

[@AzuritSK]

I'd like to know how to stack so fast in Tetris 99. Is it by tapping that fast or holding the key when the blocks need to be placed near/at the walls? I've heard about the charged DAS but is that it? Or is there more to the finesse in Tetris 99? It's really hard to get such answers.

[@ThatLuckyBear]

Mostly (at first) it's learning finesse. Memorizing and practicing the most efficient movement for every possible placement for each piece type is a lot of work. Then you practice setups so you can learn to see without looking. Slowly you learn to assess the field less and less. Eventually you don't think even think about pieces, only the strategy of their placement. It's a long road.

[@jericrocamora2341]

Learn how the pieces rotate, sometimes they move, for example if you you move an I-piece all the way to the right to where it hits the wall while it is horizontal, then let go of the directional input and then rotate counterclockwise, the expected landing area will be the third column from the left, whereas if you did clockwise it would be 2 from the left and if you kept holding right after pressing the button you get all the way to last column.

[@mtakatom1971]

この人本気でしてると思うけど、あめみやさんはコメ欄読みながらやってるから凄いよね…

[@たんぼ-o4y]

初心者あるある 1テトリス打ちがち 2置きミスしたら終わり 3コンピューター倒したら強い

[@user-ej3tv5rf8e]

全部俺で草

[@HiRaGiN0]

僕じゃん...

[@syusyu365]

テトリスは最強だと思ってた( '-' )

[@たんぼ-o4y]

まぁ、初心者あるあると言うか 私のあるあるなんだけと((

[@nikkiey3348]

0:40のDoremyさんのTスピンはなんでシングルなの？ 上手い人教えてください

[@nikkiey3348]

LからまたTスピンの形に出来るから？

[@CHOPPER1224SAKURA]

Tスピンとテトリスが打てるからかな

[@ganban_256]

その後の地形の問題ですかね？ BtB付けるだけならTSSでも問題ないですし

[@amatsuki3701]

TSD撃てば再びzミノ屋根でTSDが出来て一見良く見える。しかしzミノが若干遅れるから0:40でシングルを撃って直後のLSでTSDを構えるのが安定。

[@ゆっくりそぼろ-o1x]

ただ単に直列穴あけたんやろ

[@FunZies.]

Doremy, do you have any quick advice for a newbie who doesn't recover particularly well from mis-drops? :D "Plug up hole" as best as you can doesn't seem to be the only step that you take...

[@kelleroid]

learn about all the weird spins you can do with S/Z and J/L pieces

[@FunZies.]

@@kelleroid Yep, practicing those. :D But, like here: 1:03 (mis-drop by Doremy) and 3:21 (mis-drop by amemiya) I know the speed must play a role in the decision making here, but Is it more efficient to ignore the hole and skim the surface instead?

[@kelleroid]

@@FunZies. so I rewatched those parts a couple times. My guess is Doremy took a quick glance at the next section containing two O's that were quickly put over the existing well. Amemiya was low enough on the board to just start building new tetrises on top of the stack.

[@aeteno703]

FunZies My (very limited) understanding is that in general it is best to send small lines over tetrises (tetri?) I forget the reasoning for it, though.

[@jericrocamora2341]

Think more horizontally, at 1:03 the board is accommodating to the kind of "sideways stack" (that's how I like to approach a misdrop) that Doremy did not necessarily to "plug up the hole" per se, but more like they were simply removing the obstacles in the way of the holes so that they could get to them.

[@Rizoku_]

8:47 Missed Perfect Clear?

[@yesveryprofesionalnameyes6055]

I love that the comentator is just vibing to the song while not talking

[@Jaysloji]

When you think he misdropped but your mistaken :O

[@BigFuzzyYak]

They are such amazing players!!! I hope to level up my skills too!🙌💜

[@livedandletdie]

Bloody amazing and very thrilling gameplay... lot of pressure from both sides that game.

[@alexandrupuiu1481]

Not sure sure what’s going on but it sure does look impressive

[@CometTheBlueFox]

Quel beau spectacle, comme à chaque fois. Oui je sais c'est basique comme commentaire...

[@teslalive3530]

Retrogon t’as remarqué qu’il étais français toi :)

[@yuki6783]

めちゃくちゃ外国人さん居るけどみんなamemiyaって言ってるからあめみやさんって有名なのかなー？

[@nanaroru]

まぁ世界一位だからね

[@brothersc.1092]

テトリス界隈で世界一有名

[@T-kun_TKM]

テトリスの神ですから

[@るか-h4x]

まあテトリスとぷよぷよのプロライセンス保持しててテトリスに関しては公式からは神って言われてるしねぇ〜？

[@うらうら-j3d]

ぷよぷよのプロ、テトリスの神っていう二刀流があめみやたいようです

[@NEE-Love]

あめみやさんが強すぎる件についてwwwwww

[@なつつき-p1h]

なーーーんか聞いたことある音だと思ったら ポケモンだし喋りながらできる あめみやさん流石神やな

[@justinmakesjokes5017]

8:46 Doremy could have all cleared there

[@eureka.x_x]

Japanese. I use a translator. Who is Mr. draomie? Somebody please teach me. Please.

[@akiooosama]

Doremy is the one playing on the left 😊

[@jerson.romantico.1521]

justo como pensaba , anemiya no hace mucho esa tecnica de hacer rotar el tetris si bien la usa 2 o 3 veces el lo q mas hace es atacar , ataca y ataca asi incluso se deshace de las lineas q manda facilmente , mientras en otro video doremy rota varias veces la pieza perdiendo oportunidad de atacar ofensivamente eso hace q jugadores de alta gama puedan ganarle atacando continuamente le sacan ventaja anemiya aplica justo lo q comente en otro video el formar lineas a los lados y luego en caso intenten sacarte ventaja hacer rotar el tetris y luego atacar continuamente para presionar el rival o sea no solo enfocarse en deshacerse de lineas sino mas de formarlas asi presionas y te liberas de las lineas enemigas sin q te des cuenta definitivamente uno de los mejores jugadores de tetris :v

[@T4coTV]

Yikes that misdrop at the end D:

[@thetecmachine2012]

Why does doremy sometimes spin the t piece an extra time when you can get the t spin double?

[@dolalabanana]

As to not block the well underneath? I think that’s the reason why he doesn’t do it sometimes

[@dannylee27514]

dude that dt recover at start wtf

[@yonrexgameryt8494]

Ameniya: **Talks all the direct** Doremy:

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

Tetris 99 needs to be ported on to the PS4, Xbox One and PC.

[@Saetta06]

is this a mod or did they really add pokemon skins? haven't played Tetris 99 in ages. also the physics look like the ones from PPT, other tetrises weren't so broken

[@erikac5907]

pokémon skin was from an event when swsh came out. i think you can buy it with tickets now tho

[@Saetta06]

@@erikac5907 oh. how did I miss this, I got swsh day two

[@The-Will-Billy]

so these guys are the reason why I cant get a dub on this game... to them I am nothing but a grain of sand in the desert of K.O's that they get.

[@yonrexgameryt8494]

11:58 **Doremy will remember that Z piece mistake**

[@eonsinfinity534]

This is made so much better because they both have pokemon theme on.

[@jasonsmith8802]

Erasing lines like NatDex Pokemon

[@syrup4076]

hehe

[@ImJustJoh]

Doremy play in french uwu" . . . Wait what owo

[@akiooosama]

He is french :0

[@sirtaro7610]

This was literally a battle of the GODS

[@真田-p8j]

Doremyくん やっぱ強いなあ〜

[@ひひひひ-j7u]

8:46パフェ取れた気が…

[@あずき-s6y4b]

確かに取れましたねw

[@kurikinton321]

テトリス99のパフェはそこまで強くないって神が言ってた気がする

[@TheMattyPlant]

No wonder I can't break into the top 10 if there gods like this 😯

[@Viktoringia]

this match was very compelling ♥

[@tonyalvaresjr]

I always thought I was good at Tetris and then I saw this video!!! I’m Garbage 😞

[@Pal42_]

It's not you being garbage, it's them being absolute Gods. Honestly Tetris players are some of the few that really shock me, alongside Rocket League players

[@thecommentato4]

ACuteBoi what bout the people who make stuff in survival

[@gigawhatgaming]

Missed perfect clear at 8:46

[@たーくんだよぉ]

8:46あそこパフェ取れたね

[@はるや-l7d]

クーゲルなんてしらねたーくん iミノ、jミノoミノの順ですかね？

[@たーくんだよぉ]

@@はるや-l7d そうですね

[@ポンデリング-l4l]

パフェとると次の攻撃態勢に繋がり辛いから取らなかったんだと思います

[@もんちゃん-u8i]

急なアンケートだけどパフェとれるなら取る派？それとも敢えて取らない派？

[@宮内空]

門田浩佳 パフェ取れるとか気付けない派ですね

[@JuZockt]

how can you place the tetrominos so fast and move them so fast to the sides, the game has no options to set a speed

[@SomethingAboutTypical]

Ya had to chock at the last second?

[@inis5757]

私はまたここに来た。 もう半年も経つのか… 懐かしいな。 今日のJST22：00からあめみや＆ロイVSスナイプ　チームバトル　パスワード。 またDoremyさんがあめみやさんスナイプしてるのとか見たいなぁ

[@zdlol2594]

epic play from both side

[@nia5032]

what if we made tetris but with triangles instead