Texas ARRESTS Anti-Israel Protestors, Governor Abbott Says Hate Speech Is ILLEGAL

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[@victorydaydeepstate]

Hate speech doesn't exist under US Law

[@Do_Not_Lie2]

But all kinds of other laws do 😂

[@yourcringe-8]

"Watch me" - ♿️

[@seamusfinnegan1164]

Several states have anti Hate Speech laws unfortunately including Texas

[@mikehardman7566]

Under current First Amendment jurisprudence, hate speech can only be criminalized when it directly incites imminent criminal activity or consists of specific threats of violence targeted against a person or group. In this case the protesters are in a clear violation of these standards.

[@A_Jeff]

Just be sure you ignore which party is telling you that free speech and assembly isn't allowed, since it's what we've been telling you for a while now.

[@jackhyatt7739]

As an Abbott supporter and native Texan, Abbott needs to only arrest people for actual crimes. Period.

[@EndIsraelWorship]

Criticism of them is a crime in their minds

[@yourcringe-8]

"Native Texan" 😂

[@thebluestig2654]

Death threats to an entire group of people is a crime.

[@yourcringe-8]

​@@EndIsraelWorshipyour bible says they're the chosen ones 😂

[@gavinlinville9691]

Texan's younit

[@nathandust]

Free speech means free speech. It’s not a crime.

[@Snes64]

It's not a Crime. But I don't care about about the Palestine Psyop. These are the same people who support Hate Speech Laws. We're in a 4th Gen War. 🤷‍♀️

[@oldtimefarmboy617]

"Free speech means free speech. It’s not a crime." Encouraging and inciting the act of genocide is not free speech which is what the "from the river to the sea" phrase is calling for.

[@S.M.E.A.C]

Your interpretation.

[@nervenllarena4948]

@@oldtimefarmboy617 free speech is absolute defamation is a crime LOL

[@oldtimefarmboy617]

@@S.M.E.A.C "Your interpretation." That is the Palestinian's interpretation. Yale Law School Lillian Goldman Law Library Hamas Covenant 1988 The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement 18 August 1988 Open quote. Article Seven: ...Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah's promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said: "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem). Article Thirteen: Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion. Nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its religion. Its members have been fed on that. For the sake of hoisting the banner of Allah over their homeland they fight. "Allah will be prominent, but most people do not know." Now and then the call goes out for the convening of an international conference to look for ways of solving the (Palestinian) question. Some accept, others reject the idea, for this or other reason, with one stipulation or more for consent to convening the conference and participating in it. Knowing the parties constituting the conference, their past and present attitudes towards Moslem problems, the Islamic Resistance Movement does not consider these conferences capable of realising the demands, restoring the rights or doing justice to the oppressed. These conferences are only ways of setting the infidels in the land of the Moslems as arbitraters. When did the infidels do justice to the believers? "But the Jews will not be pleased with thee, neither the Christians, until thou follow their religion; say, The direction of Allah is the true direction. And verily if thou follow their desires, after the knowledge which hath been given thee, thou shalt find no patron or protector against Allah." (The Cow - verse 120). There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors. The Palestinian people know better than to consent to having their future, rights and fate toyed with. As in said in the honourable Hadith: "The people of Syria are Allah's lash in His land. He wreaks His vengeance through them against whomsoever He wishes among His slaves It is unthinkable that those who are double-faced among them should prosper over the faithful. They will certainly die out of grief and desperation." Article Fifteen: The day that enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In face of the Jews' usurpation of Palestine, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised. To do this requires the diffusion of Islamic consciousness among the masses, both on the regional, Arab and Islamic levels. It is necessary to instill the spirit of Jihad in the heart of the nation so that they would confront the enemies and join the ranks of the fighters. It is necessary that scientists, educators and teachers, information and media people, as well as the educated masses, especially the youth and sheikhs of the Islamic movements, should take part in the operation of awakening (the masses). It is important that basic changes be made in the school curriculum, to cleanse it of the traces of ideological invasion that affected it as a result of the orientalists and missionaries who infiltrated the region following the defeat of the Crusaders at the hands of Salah el-Din (Saladin). The Crusaders realised that it was impossible to defeat the Moslems without first having ideological invasion pave the way by upsetting their thoughts, disfiguring their heritage and violating their ideals. Only then could they invade with soldiers. This, in its turn, paved the way for the imperialistic invasion that made Allenby declare on entering Jerusalem: "Only now have the Crusades ended." General Guru stood at Salah el-Din's grave and said: "We have returned, O Salah el-Din." Imperialism has helped towards the strengthening of ideological invasion, deepening, and still does, its roots. All this has paved the way towards the loss of Palestine. It is necessary to instill in the minds of the Moslem generations that the Palestinian problem is a religious problem, and should be dealt with on this basis. Palestine contains Islamic holy sites. In it there is al- Aqsa Mosque which is bound to the great Mosque in Mecca in an inseparable bond as long as heaven and earth speak of Isra` (Mohammed's midnight journey to the seven heavens) and Mi'raj (Mohammed's ascension to the seven heavens from Jerusalem). "The bond of one day for the sake of Allah is better than the world and whatever there is on it. The place of one's whip in Paradise is far better than the world and whatever there is on it. A worshipper's going and coming in the service of Allah is better than the world and whatever there is on it." (As related by al-Bukhari, Moslem, al-Tarmdhi and Ibn Maja). "I swear by the holder of Mohammed's soul that I would like to invade and be killed for the sake of Allah, then invade and be killed, and then invade again and be killed." (As related by al-Bukhari and Moslem). Close quote.

[@Rustyknife1]

Im a conservative and people shouldn’t be arrested for ‘hate speech’ regardless who they’re insulting

[@NoobTamer]

It's a good thing they were arrested for trespassing and violence then and not their speech.

[@yourcringe-8]

We can tell by your profile picture cletus 😂 you didn't have to announce it.

[@Rustyknife1]

@@yourcringe-8 cletus… how original, does an actual authentic thought go through that pea you call a brain or just misplaced tropes

[@Rustyknife1]

@@yourcringe-8cletus!! 🥱 how original

[@Meyer-gp7nq]

Seriously, what is the meaning behind your pfp? It seems like the negative connotations of that flag will overrule whatever actual political point you are trying to make, unless you actually just want to say you hate black people. I can kinda see if you mean it as a secessionist statement, but still it is more associated with racism than federalism

[@TheZeppelin14]

I don't agree with these people at all but hate speech is protected under the 1st Amendment.

[@LuciusC]

There's no such thing as hate speech, and the people who talk so much about combating it already know they'll be even more hateful when they get out. It turns out people don't rethink their positions or life when you use state power to persecute them.

[@markdatheist9179]

Can't we all just get behind disagreeing with the USA Gov folding to super PACS and funneling decades worth of tax payers money to fund weapons for a violent ethnosupremacist state on the other side of the world?

[@Unternehman]

Yes I agree, but openly supporting terrorism. I don't either. What's the definition of treason?

[@mbktenterprisesllc4428]

The problem is arresting them for speech, rather than their actions of blocking people, blocking places that are public, gathering without a permit. Arresting for speech is not ok.

[@A_Jeff]

Your side of the country is both unable to govern and hilariously beholden to donors.

[@greggonzalez661]

The generation that demanded “safe spaces” is NOW realizing free speech is important. Classic.

[@davidkledzik2724]

Comment of the day, 100% true.

[@A_Jeff]

(Your side of the country changed the rules to make it an unlawful assembly. But you'd have to be informed to know that, wouldn't you, guy who watches a skateboarder read tabloids instead.)

[@cynthiasmith3902]

They demand safe spaces while making public places feel unsafe

[@windog551]

@@A_Jeff There are no sides you have been brainwashed. Democrats made these rules.

[@greggonzalez661]

@@A_Jeff to be fair, I don’t think they should be arrested for speech. Just like I don’t think anyone that did not punch a cop or break anything on Jan 6 should have been arrested. But, these kids, like you, have no consistency in their arguments, which you prove with you uninformed view that somehow their speech is beyond reproach, but everyone else needs to mind their p’s and q’s. Free speech for everyone. Even an aggressive young man like yourself!

[@bwedmore]

HATE SPEECH IS NOT ILLEGAL. Protesting on property that is not yours is. Big difference

[@SiegeTF]

The problem is that if they say they're arresting people for establishing exclusion zones they'll get acused of racism because of BLM's habit of being allowed to do so.

[@seraeggobutterworth5247]

UT Austin is a public university, so anyone is allowed to be on the campus to protest, as long as it doesn’t rise to incitement or direct threats/harassment. Otherwise, from a legal standpoint, the only genuine problem is if the protesters are obstructing other people’s access to this public space, like with an encampment or not letting other people through or pushing out counter protesters. If that happens, the school or the police can lawfully order them to disperse and they can be arrested if they don’t comply.

[@chocomalk]

Criticizing Israel is not hate speech.

[@Imrepenting]

Dang Abbott… you’ve messed up big time.

[@bmoreblondie6301]

I think its a good thing cuz these lefty will not vote for joey now cuz joey is pro Israel so hopefully all these lefty for Gaza will just not vote. What Abbotts doing is just gona make the left go harder for Gaza an make joey condemn it an then they won't vote for joey

[@bmoreblondie6301]

They won't vote trump but maybe they just won't vote 🤞

[@techpriest6962]

He's serving his lobbyists and campaign funders.

[@dreamweaver1603]

No he didn't. These people have no right to protest at the college and camp out. They can take it to somewhere that actually makes a difference, like DC (or if they're really brave, Israel). If you don't see how threatening this has become then you're just stupid.

[@nfsfanAndrew]

No such thing as hate speech. Garbage take.

[@mikehardman7566]

and if it were the KKK?

[@AmonAnon-vw3hr]

@mikehardman7566 your antiwhiteism is irrelevant.

[@thesocialistsarecoming8565]

Technically speaking there is. Much like shouting FIRE!!!! In a crowded public space when there isnt one is illegal. Threatening violence against specific groups (with the capacity to potentially actually engage in said violence), or actively inciting crime is also illegal.

[@mikehardman7566]

@@AmonAnon-vw3hr just pointing out your hypocrisy ;)

[@user-wj6dt5bq3w]

@@thesocialistsarecoming8565 How were they threatening violence against a group? The protests are against Israel, we don't live in Israel. Stop acting like Jews in America have some legal right to get through life without ever hearing anything negative about Israel.

[@byronbranch4645]

Massive L. Hate speech is not a thing

[@fringer6]

So it's hate speech when the Tribe's involved

[@BarbellThor]

Hate speech doesn't exist. Governor is wrong.

[@martdod]

Gov. Abbot showing his WEF colors.

[@jaredleicht1656]

Ya him shipping illegal aliens to all the major democrat cities was not to " teach them a lesson ".....

[@TheRationalist.]

Abbot is controlled opposition. He was all aboard the lockdown train until the pushback hit.

[@Irish_Georgia_Girl]

@martdod ~ "WEF colors"??? Because he isn't allowing Jews to be attacked and prevented from going to class by rabid modern day nazis? Do you REALLY know anything about the WEF?? Because it doesn't sound like you do.

[@cdebo822]

You spelled Jewish overlords wrong

[@ThePanzerKorps]

​@@cdebo822Nazi scum.

[@andrewhinsurance]

Why can't anyone just address the elephant in the room? People should be allowed to criticize JEWS without getting suspended, expelled, arrested, ticketed, fined, fired, debanked, censored, banned, or otherwise punished. This goes for any group, but people will never actually put that into a sentence naming that group. Everyone always weasels around it. They'll say things like "It's okay to criticize *Israel*" or "It's okay to criticize the IDF handling of the situation in Gaza". But few people have the courage to say that Jews themselves are fair game, even when divorced of the Israel topic. No group is beyond criticism, and that includes JEWS. Not teachers. Not the pope. Not blacks. Not union workers. Not congressmen and senators. Not kings. Not queens. No gays. Not judges. Not criminal aliens. Not presidents. Not Muslims. And not Jews.

[@ClickToPreview]

We shouldn't be generalizing and lumping people into group identities anyways. One person who is Jewish may be a completely different kind of person than another person who is Jewish. It's just not helpful language. Yes, it's EASIER to generalize, but it's not helpful.

[@andrewhinsurance]

@@ClickToPreview that's not the discussion of the moment. The discussion is should people be ALLOWED to criticize whoever they want? Whether or not you think it's productive is nowhere near the point and something I'm entirely uninterested in.

[@Galeanthropist]

@@andrewhinsurance Right now, the left is totally pro-'anti-jew' However, even trying to mention that Palastine is not the victim here is met by a tidal wave of hate and violence. I'm not on either side of this. Hamas is fucking horrible. However, there's a reasonable bit to question with the responses by Isreal. I'll admit. I'm much more in the non-terrorist camp. But, much like most conflicts, it's not black and white/good guy -bad guy. However, when other muslim countries wall you off and refuse any immigrants? There's probably a reason.

[@infamoussnyc3761]

Not when they run the banking system of usary

[@Shskzkskska1423]

Well said.

[@Thumper68]

They should be arresting them for disturbing the campus and hindering the students who are paying to go there.

[@sambear6079]

To know who rules over you, see who you aren't allowed to criticize.

[@thegooddoctor2009]

Damn those kids with cancer must be in charge of everything.

[@RedTracer3894]

👃

[@sevel7556]

Like when Rosanne Bar was cancelled for making a joke about a black person? Black women must run the west

[@yourcringe-8]

​@@thegooddoctor2009I criticize them all the time

[@jfkst1]

We can't insult blacks and they definitely don't rule over us...yet.

[@Idontgetoffended]

Oh, that's ironic. The people who scream, "Hate speech" every time someone says something they don't like, are now being accused of hate speech themselves! 😂😂😂

[@A_Jeff]

Years and years of your pretend values: "Boohoo how dare you arrest anyone for their speech!" When your side does it: "tee hee I'm so happy it's happening!"

[@dukey19941]

They asked for it. The old adage of be careful what you ask for.

[@richardjulien3345]

Yup. I see no reason to defend these people. They made their bed they need to lie in it

[@A_Jeff]

Years of your pretend values: "boohoo how dare you arrest anyone for speech!" Today when your side does it: "Yay! tee hee! it's happening to the Opposition like we wanted!" No double standards here

[@A_Jeff]

No double standards here about free speech from the pretend free speech crusaders. Turns out all of those principles just meant for you. hahaha. Most Self Absorbed People Ever.

[@jeffn4836]

This is protected speech under the first amendment.

[@TeH.j0keR]

If it wasn't already obvious enough which tribe already bought and paid for We the Slaves.

[@sambear6079]

They recently signed bills making it illegal to even criticize them. Which is against the first amendment.

[@bpregont]

Well this is their chance to take it to the supreme court and get it nullified. I hope they do. Criminalizing speech no matter how hateful it is, is unconstitutional.

[@yourcringe-8]

Jokes on you 😂 I don't acknowledge the constitution. 😌

[@A_Jeff]

The funniest part is that we've been telling you that your side is all about restrictions on people's rights for decades and now you're realizing we've been correct the entire time.

[@thebluestig2654]

Which bills would those be? Maybe you should try listening to the vile crap the so-called "protestors" were spewing, it crossed the line from protected speech to criminal speech.

[@joeswanson401]

​@@A_Jeff Yup, it's all about if you want to be an R Sheep or a D Sheep.

[@this_isntmyname]

"Hate Speech" is encouraged, you just have to know the demographic you aren't allowed to hate

[@jfkst1]

Correct. Hating whites is encouraged. Try hating anything other than whites.

[@cassiusblaxk]

Blacks, whites, well pretty much everyone except Israel 🙃

[@AnswerisB]

[in grainy German] "J U D E N"

[@randominternetprofile8270]

Nailed it

[@TheUnseenPath]

Fuck that.

[@merlesmith6794]

The term “hate speech” needs to go away.

[@joehardy3692]

Abbot didn’t say that - headline is misleading. Hate speech isn’t against the law, therefore they can’t be prosecuted for “hate speech”. Quit being stupid. If they were arrested it’s from the encampment they setup and not dispersing when told to.

[@drewnes64]

Matt Walsh is right: It is illegal to make encampments on campus. The governor was right to get them out. Why he mentioned hate speech instead of just saying it was illegal to camp out there.. I have no clue. He had the chance to show how to do things and messed it up by saying this dumbest thing.

[@Hawtload]

agreed

[@VenomShotYou]

Jews that’s why

[@theguybehindyou4762]

Maybe he was messing with his leftist critics. Kinda like saying "Islam is right about women"

[@davidwilson6681]

Because he's only doing it because Israel owns him

[@crackshack2]

Hmmm interesting 🤔

[@xx-qv9tp]

Sorry governor, "hate speech" isn't illegal, no matter your beliefs.

[@seamusfinnegan1164]

Hate to say this but it actually is in Texas and a few states, but for Texas in particular "The Texas Hate Crimes Act, Chapter 411.046 " hate crimes acts in this regard are used against Hate speech whether they specifically cover hate speech or not especially if they can make a argument of incitement in any regard.

[@yourcringe-8]

"Not Cool" - ♿️

[@jmdesertadventures803]

While I'm opposed to the idea of hate speech as a crime, it is kind of ironic to see it turned against the leftists that want hate speech laws on the books.

[@mgancarzjr]

​​@@jmdesertadventures803will they learn that their sneering against "freeze peach" only hurts them in the end?

[@TXPhoenix79]

That’s not why they were arrested

[@lloydmarshalljr1951]

Those who clamor for "hate speech" to be punished are now getting paid back; *MASTER STROKE,* Governor!

[@4loops43]

You know what’s weird, most of the students couldn’t find Palestine or Isreal on a map! 😂

[@PsycoDwarf9]

SOOOO...Anti Israel is hate speech, but speech advocating deleting melanin deficit people isn't...

[@AmonAnon-vw3hr]

Funny that lol.

[@GJK3]

Timcast ADL

[@bitchimightbe3773]

You are red pilled, well done

[@januszczapiewski7407]

Tim is hiding a different hat under his beanie.. A tiny hat.

[@brianasche6406]

I'm at an intelligent deficit due to this current administration....

[@coreybrand2777]

So much for America for Americans.

[@jonathonhancock575]

Yep if you wanna find Out Who the real enemy is? Figure Out Who you can't? Talk s*** about.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@vlogsaremylife6235]

They aren’t just criticizing a country . For they are attacking Jewish students.

[@Steven9567]

i don't think they did

[@sciguysky6830]

There is no such thing as hate speech. There is just speech. Either all of it is OK or none of it is.

[@yourcringe-8]

get replaced 😂👉 🤡

[@spar1993]

Lol, well, I think it's a nice little juxtaposition. Hate Speech got turned on its head, used against the very people who started the trend in the first place. I was warning the lefties the entire time leading up to now. Now, they get what they've earned for the rest of us.

[@BBStyles777]

That is not true even under US Free Speech law there are certain things you can't say such as calls to violence, libel, etc.

[@richardmoore8399]

​@@yourcringe-8sorry the only side that are a bunch of clowns is the one your on stalker🤣😂

[@isabeljimenez6067]

​@@BBStyles777 calls to violence is not the same as hate speech.

[@audi.6106]

Anti 1st amendment

[@yourcringe-8]

Sounds like the Republican party 😂

[@DeWin157]

The first amendment ONLY protects PEACEFUL protesting, not disruptive and threatening chants.

[@kelleygreengrass]

They're trespassing

[@dovahkitty4401]

​@@yourcringe-8most republicans love the 1st amendment last time i checked. And i myself thouroughly disagree with the arrests as long as it was only speech.

[@EndIsraelWorship]

​@@DeWin157"threatening chants" so words are violence now? LOL

[@lesliebrown1517]

Wouldn't Patriot act kick in if someone said they were Hamas?

[@Meyer-gp7nq]

Ooh. Yeah. Let’s get DHS to interrogate those people… see what they think then…

[@theclowninghasbegun3442]

We got to stop being a golem for the middle east

[@tuongpham7609]

Remember. Fight for free speech. But don’t fight for those actively fighting against free speech.

[@saysflushable]

100% agree......never fight for the rights of people that would take away your rights.

[@brando3342]

It's only TRULY "hateful" if it offends the tiny hats, and fancy pants crowd.

[@stinkfinga4918]

(It's the same crowd)

[@brando3342]

@@stinkfinga4918 Yes. “Crowd”, singular. Tiny hat and fancy pants 👍 lol

[@TheUnseenPath]

Nope. Free speech is free speech.

[@brando3342]

@@TheUnseenPath I guess sarcasm doesn't always translate through text all that well, eh?

[@magneric]

But is it hateful to offend against the fancy hats and tiny pants crowd?

[@THall-vi8cp]

Well, protesters were arrested at USC, Emerson, and UTA because they were disruptive and occupying the campuses. Many of the protesters weren't even students. Abbott didn't help, however, when he said this: "These protesters belong in jail. Antisemitism will not be tolerated in Texas. Period. Students joining in hate-filled, antisemitic protests at any public college or university in Texas should be expelled." He just stepped in shit and smeared it all over his own face with that comment.

[@tonyperrotti5049]

What's the hate speech? Where ? It doesn't exist .. A made up narrative.. That's certainly what they want..

[@batsayxboxstorm]

Are you starting to notice who the group you can't criticize is? How does that phrase go? "If you want to know who holds the power, learn who you can't criticize." No other group gets these type reactions for them.... NONE.

[@linusgustafsson2629]

LGBTQ, Progressives, Actors, CEOs, Jews, PoCs, Ethics departments, Translators, the list is long.

[@kyleblackwelder7014]

@@linusgustafsson2629let me simplify that list for you: Jews.

[@batsayxboxstorm]

@@linusgustafsson2629 No other group has gotten an actual responsive action as large as this one group. Yes, they have gotten reactions, but no, NONE of those others have gotten the level of responses this one group has.

[@ClickToPreview]

It's just an overreactive response because of the ugly history of the original Nazi party and Hitler. When millions of people are eradicated because of group identity, it is the ugliest, most evil thing ever. The reaction tends to be an overreaction.

[@godwarrior3403]

They do not run the world. Stfu with your h*tler bullcrap. You judge people by their actions. Jews exist, antisemites rage and kill and plot and at worst, commit genocide. It's not even an opinion matter, you are objectively the bad guy here. As proven by your actions, and your heart. If you take an honest look at yourself, you know damn well your heart is not moral nor based in love nor does your outrage come from a want of what is right.

[@Crackshotsteph]

The monsters they have let loose upon everyone whenever they need them now turn against them.

[@AmonAnon-vw3hr]

Reminds me of an ancient story about a golem turning on its master.

[@nancyendicott9047]

Freedom of speech is priceless

[@BudStickly]

Freedom is not given to you, you have to take it. Then... you have to keep it. Freedom is a choice. Choices have consequences. Freedom is hard.

[@housetv87]

Freedom of speech for the Republicans until you question the small hats

[@K0RP53]

Antisemitism is not illegal. Hate speech is not illegal.

[@deniseweinberg2351]

Could they get away with this if it was happening to Black or gay people ? Why is it ok for Jews?

[@Galeanthropist]

The left started with 'anti-semitic' and went hard into 'pro islam' really fast.... Weird how that occurred. However when you try to champion both islam and semites, well, someone has to lose. Just confusing to me how the ones that want to kill the gays are the ones the gays are supporting....

[@Fred_Zepplin]

I Stand For Their Free Speech Right To Offend Me!

[@richardtibbetts574]

Imagine a group of people so despised, that they have to pass laws that make it illegal to hate them.

[@crackshack2]

Theyre not bright tbh. They only add fuel to the fire.

[@oldbuddyolpal9859]

Black people? Are you referring to them? Lol

[@bitchimightbe3773]

Exactly, it’s so obvious 😂

[@PhilipJFry-qh2jg]

​@@oldbuddyolpal9859 Anti-semitism

[@simonmcneilly55]

The Irish 😂

[@jimbones155]

The protestors were violating Texas laws, nothing to do with hate speech.

[@Shskzkskska1423]

Can’t be antisemitic or you go to jail? Say something hateful and go to jail? Which laws were being violated and why did Greg Abbott say it has everything to do with hate speech?

[@user-xk1ff4gp7k]

​@@Shskzkskska1423if you're going to call the destruction of Israel from sea to River and that all Zion's Must Die that means Jews then yes that's against the law

[@user-xk1ff4gp7k]

Protests are stupid aren't colleges supposed to be will you go to get an education instead of setting up these protest rallies were all their objective is to brainwash people they could do something intelligent like have a debate what they'd rather bang your silly drums and chant chanting is a form of brainwashing

[@jdarokhajiit9153]

I am increasingly convinced that there is less people than fingers on my hand that are of virtue and ethics in government.

[@VenomShotYou]

It’s possible that there’s none.

[@linusgustafsson2629]

I always feel like the percent of decent people in government is 100% - your age%. As a 10 year old, you think the vast majority, 90% are decent. Then you get older and in your 50s you think at least half of them are corrupt.

[@sunshineeddy6849]

If you’re counting all the governments that exist anywhere, I think you’re still using far too many fingers.

[@magneric]

There's less than 20 from what I've seen

[@magneric]

@@linusgustafsson2629 Because when you're young, you believe all people have good intentions. When you get older, you see a disturbing amount of people take advantage of each other to the point it where lives are lost. I'm not even past 30 yet and I know most of them are corrupt thanks to how they've treated my fellow veterans and I after being used up and thrown out.

[@vamisk]

Ask yourself why Jews want to make it illegal to criticize them

[@merchant_of_kek5697]

I mean… it’s not Jews supporting this… it’s literally half the country

[@neimadize]

Because they own us.

[@Macheako]

They got really really big honkers? 👃

[@unbroken1010]

Moussed

[@colin4tor781]

It was one of the first things they did after seizing power in Russia. They then genocided 10s millions of Whites in artificial famines.

[@khamkham7134]

Texas has anti-BDS laws. In employment contracts, they write it in. Certain employees are prohibited to protest against Israel. Abbot's response is expected.

[@khamkham7134]

We have 38 states and the federal government with anti-BDS laws. AIPAC and others are so powerful.

[@ZaShiesty]

@@khamkham7134and all of it should be taken down, we have a right to disagree with a foreign nation

[@johnkatsaros7340]

Whay hypocrisy. You didn't recognize that the Canadian trucker convoy had occupied a public space.

[@stinkfinga4918]

'Its okay when we do it'

[@Caveman787]

It's not Hate Speech it's just speech....and we thought he was one of the good ones then fail. The THREATS, acts of violence, trapping and scaring people are the problem and those are illegal.

[@buyAleumaS]

Hate speech is free speech & it's a right of every LEGAL law abiding American's which protected under the constitution.

[@bonelessthincrust]

Why does this country have such a stranglehold on us? Why in the hell can't we shake them?

[@DragNetJoe]

Hate is a feeling, a thought, an emotion. Hate crime = thought crime.

[@bjs301]

Describing condemnation of hate speech as an "older generation" thing is ridiculous. I'm a Baby Boomer, and my generation spent our youths fighting for free speech, including for those with whom we disagree. One of my biggest fears today is that my grandkids are inheriting a world in which everyone wants to cancel anybody that disagrees with them. Tim touched on the real issue here. It's not the speech, it's occupying property, and committing violent acts against others.

[@Acoustic_player2024]

I personally thought it was like an almost universal thing in anerica that we thought hate speech was protected. It was not until around the mid 2010s that I heard anyone in america say it should be illegal.

[@bjs301]

@@Acoustic_player2024 Well that's the way it's supposed to work. When I was a kid in the 1960s a lot of our parents had no use for young anti-war protesters. Worse, many blacks were arrested for protesting for their freedom. MLK was arrested like 30 times, and many of those arrests were for "civil disobedience" . It's like we've come full circle in the last ten years, except we've changed who we silence.

[@AmonAnon-vw3hr]

Lol you boomers started the attack on free speech.

[@Galeanthropist]

The worst part, is the our absolute devotion to free speech has put us in this position. We hate what many say, defend their right to do so, while those against such have no such compunctions against silencing and destroying any opposing view. Free speech got us to this communist marxist hellscape. And our refusal to nip it allowed it. Worse, we can't curb it without violating our own beliefs. It's a hell of a catch 22.

[@feroshuskitsu]

This right here. Exactly. When speech turns into an action is when it become actionable upon. The speech itself can NOT be the crime. One of the reasons I dislike 'incitement' laws.

[@TXPhoenix79]

From the University President (My daughter is a student): Dear UT community, This has been a challenging day for many. We have witnessed much activity we normally do not experience on our campus, and there is understandably a lot of emotion surrounding these events. Today, our University held firm, enforcing our rules while protecting the Constitutional right to free speech. Peaceful protests within our rules are acceptable. Breaking our rules and policies and disrupting others’ ability to learn are not allowed. The group that led this protest stated it was going to violate Institutional Rules. Our rules matter, and they will be enforced. Our University will not be occupied. The protesters tried to deliver on their stated intent to occupy campus. People not affiliated with UT joined them, and many ignored University officials’ continual pleas for restraint and to immediately disperse. The University did as we said we would do in the face of prohibited actions. We were prepared, with the necessary support to maintain campus operations and ensure the safety, well-being and learning environment for our more than 50,000 students. We are grateful for the countless staff members and state and University law enforcement officers, as well as support personnel who exercised extraordinary restraint in the face of a difficult situation that is playing out at universities across the country. There is a way to exercise freedom of speech and civil discourse, and our Office of the Dean of Students has continued to offer ways to ensure protests can happen within the rules. The University of Texas will continue to take necessary steps so that all our University functions proceed without interruption. Sincerely yours,  Jay Hartzell President

[@mgancarzjr]

"You can protest just not where it inconveniences anyone or makes anyone feel any way they don't like. Have you considered not protesting in a public space on a public campus?"

[@TXPhoenix79]

@@mgancarzjr Well, when you sign up to go to the campus, you sign documents that say you will adhere to the rules. They violated those rules. THAT is why they were arrested.

[@mgancarzjr]

@@TXPhoenix79 police can't arrest people for violating private rules between two parties. You're confused.

[@mgancarzjr]

@@TXPhoenix79 they were arrested because they refused to disperse, and I can understand the legality of it, the sheer stupidity of a public university having people removed from a public space... the very space intended to be used by the public for public things such as speech and protesting is maddening

[@TXPhoenix79]

@@mgancarzjr The university is a Public institution which has it's own police force. The UTPD called for backup from the APD and State Troopers.

[@lloydmartin8748]

I do not care who is doing it right or left there is no such thing as HATE SPEECH!!!!!!!! This is how we loose our 1A from the UNI-PARTY!!!!!!

[@jimmyYa0]

Couldn’t have said it better myself… 👍🏻

[@leecm]

Is Greg Abbott trying to turn Texas blue?

[@PremiumBlank]

He would have done better to arrest them on inciting violence or being part of a terrorist organization. Most of these protestors are saying they are HAMAS or with them. Not giving him a pass. One must acknowledge that the right for peaceful protest belongs to any and every viewpoint. The moment they get violent or try to attempt to get people to be violent is a different matter. THEN it's not peaceful.

[@EruannaArte]

Woow very efficient arrests I wonder why CHAZ and BLM never suffer mass arrests. Keep defending the undefendable Tim

[@frankvandorp9732]

All these people will be free again the next morning, just like the BLM/CHAZ rioters who got arrested. I get that doesn't fit in your preferred political narrative, but facts are facts.

[@GLockandGas]

Im all for arresting people if they are trying to incite violence by threatening,but I just feel like Tim really defends anybody who’s just actually violating free speech it’s kind of annoying.

[@A_Jeff]

Yeah, it's almost like Texas is an authoritarian state run by a personal close friend of the Israeli prime minister....

[@DemocratsReadMyBio]

​@@GLockandGasdoes Tim really defend abbott in this video?

[@A_Jeff]

"Yay it's so efficient!" says people who would be losing their minds about speech if it was their farmer team.

[@Ruhbarak]

According to their logic, all Hitler had to do was say Hamas was in Jewish communities and it wouldn’t have been classified as a genocide lmao

[@stinkfinga4918]

Gotta learn the rules if ya wanna play their game

[@Ruhbarak]

@@stinkfinga4918irony is the Jewish bolsheviks openly wanted to destroy Germany at the time.

[@mjov6655]

Wish the GOP had this same energy when people were getting attacked for wearing MAGA hats.

[@br0knheart]

What he should be going with is that they were told to disperse, and that they could not take over an entire campus, and force out other students who want to attend class. That's why they were being arrested, not because of the speech. With that being said, any chants calling for the destruction of an entire country & their people (actually inciting violence), has no place at an institution of higher learning here in America.

[@mikehardman7566]

Under current First Amendment jurisprudence, hate speech can only be criminalized when it directly incites imminent criminal activity or consists of specific threats of violence targeted against a person or group. In this case the protesters are in a clear violation of these standards.

[@thesocialistsarecoming8565]

​@@mikehardman7566 good point, though then it does come to the question of group culpability and if enough people were doing such to warrant the protest being broken up. Answer's likely yes, but that is the question regardless of actual answer lol

[@Steven9567]

@@thesocialistsarecoming8565 and how we that people who aren't government agents

[@gadget8066]

One persons hate speech is someone else's OK speech... OR JUST (FREE) SPEECH !

[@linusgustafsson2629]

Well, hate speech is calling for others to band together to harm a group of people. So it isn't really OK speech nor free speech. That is like stating that your written plans to murder someone is just free speech and they can't arrest you for just expressing your plans.

[@capoman1]

​@@linusgustafsson2629That is an example of TRUE hate speech, calling for violence against a specific group... But I think that may already be covered by other laws.

[@Steven9567]

@@capoman1 even that cover by freedom of speech after all the foundering fathers called for violence

[@MoonjumperReviews]

He didn’t say that. He said assault is illegal; making terroristic threats is illegal; trespassing and vandalism is illegal.

[@jared1394]

“I don’t understand the whole kosher thing” WOW, how antisemitic of you

[@crame4xc663]

Once it’s illegal to offend someone then someone has to decide what’s offensive. The person who gets to decide what’s offensive becomes a God. I don’t support Abbot one bit on this as a native Texan I support the right of the anti Israel protesters even though I don’t care about them or agree with them.

[@Kay-rf3fp]

They got arrested from blocking people from areas. Not hate speech.

[@HebrewHammerArmsCo]

Theres a difference between hate speech and openly calling for mass murder and genocide.

[@oldmanbiscuit7518]

This is what the rabbis wanted all along, didnt they?

[@bitchimightbe3773]

Yessir

[@otarimuradishvili5540]

Haven't you seen flags waving in House of Representatives? Israelis and Ukrainians are of more value than even migrants that Democrats import in USA. That should tell you something. What's also surprising.... Republicans all but went along.

[@whocares110]

No speech is illegal. We have rights.

[@jotterprime9034]

My favorite part about all this is everyone showing where their 'free speech' lines are.

[@TXPhoenix79]

They were not arrested for speech.

[@yourcringe-8]

Conservatives were never for free speech 😂 their party is all about restricting people's rights and freedoms, they wouldn't even let other people get married.

[@yourcringe-8]

It's literally the same party that tried to keep people from getting married 😂 why are you surprised?

[@GenerationalDisappointment]

@@TXPhoenix79 Okay? The OP's point still stands tall.

[@TXPhoenix79]

@@GenerationalDisappointment The arrests had nothing to do with speech. View my primary comment to see the message from the University President that was sent to my student daughter.

[@williamsaling9648]

Abbott is a wolf in sheeps clothing

[@user-og2bp2gf4u]

It's not the statements, it's the escalation that is getting out of hand.

[@xINTENSORx]

Governor Abbott says hate speech is illegal. Well, I guess Abbott lived long enough to see himself become the villain. people in this country don't even know what they're fighting for anymore.

[@GenerationalDisappointment]

They are fighting for their own interests. Always have, always will. The times you agree with them and see them as good are just the times those interests align.

[@xINTENSORx]

@@GenerationalDisappointment true

[@techpriest6962]

Abbott was never the hero, he's old guard.

[@PaintDryLifting]

He was always the villian Texas "conservatives" are Ben Shapiro tier at best (see Crenshaw, Cornyn etc) and only posture enough to trick the boomer R primary voters

[@phillip-io5ve]

First and foremost, They were arrested for tresspass. Second is that is not free speech if they are making calls to violence. Which they are. Third it is literally a terrorist organization and they are organizing with them. So no, none of this is about hate speech.

[@an0nycat]

"Hate Speech" in the USA? 😅😅 And not in the USSR?

[@buildingsbeginnings]

Hate speech is free speech, what the fuck is happening?

[@vitomoretta2122]

Freedom of speech is absolutely a lot of protesting is absolutely loud. You cannot go on private property after someone asked you to leave and create an encampment. If you are harassing Jewish students that goes far beyond the protest you have to allow other students at the campus to attend class, stand there with your sign, say your slogan as long as it isn’t calling for people to be hurt let it ride, but if the campus says get off our property, you must vacate

[@jg0943]

This feels so astroturfed. Completely coordinated and the same heavy handed response.

[@shadetreemechanic2308]

No such thing as hate speech speech is free but terrorism isn’t .

[@goldenhate6649]

Inciting violence is also not free speech. Well, unless you of the right party. So theres that as well.

[@anotherlover6954]

They're not being accused of terrorism. Just of hating the Jews. We saw terrorism all summer long during the riots. They didn't consider that actionable then. For some reason.

[@danl7442]

Saying stop genocide is inciting violence???​@@goldenhate6649

[@riner9]

@@goldenhate6649 THREATS of violence. Define "inciting violence".

[@cmac1600]

@@riner9 Nah, they've literally had to have Jewish kids stay home because they've been in danger on campus.

[@78.BANDIT]

Governor needs to re state that. There is NO HATE SPEECH in the U.S. only FREE SPEECH. Just because you don't like what someone says doesn't mean anything.

[@johngormley3908]

No one should be arrested for “hate speech” there is a difference between social and legal liability.

[@culcasi916chris]

I don’t like hate speech, but free speech is free speech

[@MrBeav1982]

Violence needs addressed for sure, but to arrest them simply because of the speech is a dangerous precedent. The question starts to come in when they say they are Hamas, from the river to the sea, supporting the intifada, and harassing random Jewish people on the street. Does that cross the line to calls for violence?

[@YourWifesBoyfriend]

Free speech isn't harassment, liar. If you want to be a leftist tyrant, stick to CNN or MSNBC

[@josephahner3031]

You are allowed to call for violence under US law. You aren't allowed to directly incite violence. The difference is between saying "I think we should go hurt person x" and "go get him"

[@MrBeav1982]

@@josephahner3031 It is a felony under federal law to intentionally “solicit, command, induce, or otherwise endeavor to persuade” another person to engage in a crime of violence against a person or property. Your example persuades for violence. "I think you should have the fish" is a persuasion to eat fish.

[@stanbartsch1984]

Illegal assemblies are also illegal.

[@mgancarzjr]

@@MrBeav1982 depends on whether that falls into conspiracy to commit. "I think we should militarily invade country x" is also a direct call for violence

[@davidschlageter5962]

where in the constitution is ILLEGAL hate speech excluded from the 1st Amendment. What are the criteria?

[@orionslaver432]

On the one hand I shed no tears for these fools. On the other hand, arresting people for protesting is worrying. If they're harassing and threatening people, damaging property and being violent then absolutely, arrest them. But if all they're doing is saying anti-Semitic things then that's not grounds for arrest.

[@whatacrazyride1658]

I am sure he isn't arresting people for hate speech. i am sure he is warning them to leave and then arresting them if they don't.

[@NoobTamer]

They have been trespassed, why is that so hard for people to understand? Abbott made a mistake, whether on purpose or not, the reason he gave is not the real reason they were arrested.

[@jasonholloway2476]

If you want to find who really rules over you, find out who you are not allowed to criticize.

[@jaredleicht1656]

Kung flu is waycist

[@Reavan07]

Stinks of Hypocrisy, but also demonstrates the double edge sword that Hate Speech supporters could expect if they legalize hate speech laws.

[@mgs5241]

This Israel Palestine war has exposed the hypocrisy of the Right Wing. 😂😂😂 and whole world is watching 😂😂😂

[@Themheals]

Define exactly what hate speech is. Dont worry they will do it as the see fit when they dont like what you are saying

[@MuslimGentleman1776]

We can attack and criticize our government but we can’t criticize Israel? How many of these nerds are foreign owned?

[@Despiser25]

Blaming Israel for being attacked by Hamas terrorists is so Democrat of you.

[@frankvandorp9732]

You can criticize Israel, you just can't attack random people in the street for being Jewish. that you don't understand the difference says everything about you.

[@Steven9567]

@@Despiser25 thats not the point stop defecting

[@sambear6079]

​@@Despiser25Im conservative and pro Palestine. You're acting like a sheep by hopping on bandwagons just because others are.

[@sambear6079]

​Btw guess which demographic created ALL woke movements? Yeah. By supporting them YOU are unknowingly super far left. Do some research.

[@WaterMelonKillas]

They were arrested for disrupting the public and essentially seizing control of a piece of public territory. That is not the same as arresting someone for speech.

[@_Jobe]

Simple problem with the encampments, the health department can shut them down. Fire department might have a problem with it too.

[@hvdiv17]

yea you cant arrest people for free speech Governor Abbot this was a big no no.

[@randydiaz1880]

When did hate speech become illegal

[@EndIsraelWorship]

When the people who fund the Republican party are the ones being called out

[@yourcringe-8]

When a little man in a wheelchair said so 😂

[@frankvandorp9732]

Rioting and assaulting people is illegal. Don't get why so many people who say they're on the "right" now suddenly support violent rioters, that was different back in 2020.

[@Imrepenting]

@@yourcringe-8Leftist created that idea.

[@dovahkitty4401]

​@@yourcringe-8professor x?

[@JonO387]

It's not "hate speech". It's speech that's inciting violence.

[@Plus_Escapee]

That is completely stupid. Everyone hates genocide and ethnostates, but we aren't allowed to criticize that specific one? This is completely out of line.

[@chrisdixon7377]

The protesters are literally calling for violence. Thats not protected speech

[@mgancarzjr]

"Israel should eliminate Hamas." I hope I don't get arrested!

[@mrtechie6810]

​@@mgancarzjrHamas are genocidal terrorists.

[@linusgustafsson2629]

@@mgancarzjr Well, Bush didn't get arrested as President when he said he was going to go after the Afganistani/Pakistani people after 9/11.

[@mgancarzjr]

@@linusgustafsson2629 that's my point. The call for violence is protected unless it is imminent and unlawful

[@NoobTamer]

@@mgancarzjr Hamas is a terrorist organization, not a people or ethnic group. Your argument doesn't apply.