Texas pastor Robert Morris resigns after sexual assault allegations. Watch how we got here.

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@BobDacat-py6so
@BobDacat-py6so 3 ай бұрын
He was 20+ and she was 12. The abuse went on for years. It is not inappropriate sexual relationship. It was and is child molestation. He is a child molester.
@sweettina2
@sweettina2 3 ай бұрын
Yes, he is!
@Chrissimpson-oo4qx
@Chrissimpson-oo4qx 3 ай бұрын
My thing is anytime people are chasing after a leader for that many years to try to get them removed from power it says more about that person than it does about the leader. Remind me of the whole international House of prayer time the people that was involved with removing my vehicle I know had allegations against them for years for the very same thing they tried to get my vehicle removed from and my understanding it that they turn on my vehicle because they was about to get exposed. I don't think it's quite the same thing in this situation but a lot of the time the people who go chasing to remove a patch or the heart is a lot of times they got stuff in their closet and they're trying to steer the blame over towards somebody else. Also I found most of the people on social media and long before social media on the website that are the most critical of pastors in general a lot of them are guilty of the very same thing they bash preachers and leaders for doing.
@jancurtis8821
@jancurtis8821 3 ай бұрын
And it's a crime..
@shatteredstar2149
@shatteredstar2149 3 ай бұрын
Wood chippers 🙏
@Mfsleepy022
@Mfsleepy022 3 ай бұрын
Preach! His downplaying it shows no sense of responsibility for his actions. Just wants to get people to stop talking about it which also means we shouldn’t be surprised if she was not the only one. I hope any other victims come forward. Yet another wolf in sheep’s clothing!
@bobbydardy2906
@bobbydardy2906 3 ай бұрын
No surprise at all from these charlatans!
@righteousone1
@righteousone1 3 ай бұрын
Sounds about wyte!
@AquinaHeustonPyanne
@AquinaHeustonPyanne 3 ай бұрын
@@bobbydardy2906 it does not justify what he did.but the devil is the accuser
@patricialarson2542
@patricialarson2542 3 ай бұрын
Statute of limitations should be lifted for child sexual abuse, nationwide.
@elizabethlacky6068
@elizabethlacky6068 3 ай бұрын
They just lifted them in New Jersey.
@DianneKirk-s8f
@DianneKirk-s8f 3 ай бұрын
I agree !!
@darcyrogers8881
@darcyrogers8881 3 ай бұрын
This is TX they lifted the statue of limitation. If it happened in Collin county they DA better do something. His whole new campaign is sex traffic and underage SA.
@ravenhairwitch78
@ravenhairwitch78 3 ай бұрын
Please! I need my chance!
@George-jy4nx
@George-jy4nx 3 ай бұрын
It's there for a reason. Person need a resonable chance to defend against false allegations, which are impossible decades in the past.
@SolisSolaris
@SolisSolaris 3 ай бұрын
We are called to forgive those who sin against us, we are never given permission to forgive CRIMES committed against innocent children. That’s for the law to handle. May justice prevail.
@righteousone1
@righteousone1 3 ай бұрын
Sounds about wyte!
@stephaniemiller5165
@stephaniemiller5165 3 ай бұрын
I just feel like it was a long time ago and he step down
@j-555
@j-555 3 ай бұрын
Nope, according to your dogma, even what Morris did is forgivable. You can't make up your own stuff and act like that's the Christian way. What you wrote makes sense, but don't give Christianity credit for that. Any rational society would never forgive this guy. And that's OK. 👍
@AndresColumbus
@AndresColumbus 3 ай бұрын
Most of these people are worshipers of Remphan not of Yahuwah
@leyley8969
@leyley8969 3 ай бұрын
According to the Bible even crimes are supposed to be forgiven. Now just because you forgive someone it doesn't mean you have to support their livelihood. As Christians we should pray for all involved and pray that nothing like this ever happens again.
@paulfick5440
@paulfick5440 3 ай бұрын
They are NOT “allegations”.
@jennifermosley2387
@jennifermosley2387 3 ай бұрын
THIS!!!
@RobertGareau-z2b
@RobertGareau-z2b 3 ай бұрын
this is truth
@marygarrett9724
@marygarrett9724 3 ай бұрын
How do you know ???
@paulfick5440
@paulfick5440 3 ай бұрын
@@marygarrett9724 He has admitted to it publicly. I would suggest people listen to Remnant Radio’s interview with Julie Roys. I’ve been a Christian for decades and it saddens me that churches are more interested in “restoring” their people back to the pulpit. They hired the same law firm as other churches have, to control the narrative, do damage control. It’s right on their web page. Robert has an early retirement but he’s still controlling things. How anyone would stay there is beyond me.
@righteousone1
@righteousone1 3 ай бұрын
Sounds about wyte!
@juliedeane4327
@juliedeane4327 3 ай бұрын
A 12 yo is a child!!! Shame on these men who shut the females up & did not have pure ♡♡♡.
@zigzoog123
@zigzoog123 3 ай бұрын
sinner priest 👎
@MyPersonalBrand
@MyPersonalBrand 3 ай бұрын
He didn't shut her up and hide it. Listen carefully to what has transpired since the occurrence.
@lizh1988
@lizh1988 2 ай бұрын
​@@MyPersonalBrand you don't know if he shut her up, but he probably did. He's not really admitting what he did.
@sagaciouslyspeaking
@sagaciouslyspeaking 2 ай бұрын
The wives that covered up their evil act is what irks me most
@delfinaguzmanpedroza4872
@delfinaguzmanpedroza4872 3 ай бұрын
Like Herod he passed it to his son.
@xavierestrada5676
@xavierestrada5676 3 ай бұрын
He needs to be labeled a sexual predator
@shelleybuerer4502
@shelleybuerer4502 3 ай бұрын
He should’ve been fired. The church should close.
@HisPresence2024
@HisPresence2024 3 ай бұрын
The church should close bc ONE man did something decades ago? SMH
@shelleybuerer4502
@shelleybuerer4502 3 ай бұрын
@@HisPresence2024 yes, because the leadership is part of the problem. They’re hiding the truth, or buried their head in the sand. They’re very selective in their wording. They allowed Mr. Morris to use his criminal act to be the victim or cash in on his poor judgment when in fact he’s a child molester. Their true concern is for them with an apology to Cindy. They should truly listen to God. What if God wants them to sell that mega multi million dollar stadium and truly help victims. They allowed Morris to resign when they should’ve been transparent and fired him. That would show true leadership.
@shelleybuerer4502
@shelleybuerer4502 3 ай бұрын
@@HisPresence2024 the leadership is part of the problem and letting money rule their lives. They either knew the truth and hid it or didn’t look hard enough. I’ve seen this happen before. Are they listening to God or being ruled by money. They’re apologizing but what if God is telling them the leadership to close the church and use the funds to help victims.
@sherronhardin2127
@sherronhardin2127 3 ай бұрын
No the church shouldn’t close. A pastoral change is in order and should have been done years ago.
@shelleybuerer4502
@shelleybuerer4502 3 ай бұрын
@@sherronhardin2127 for years the leadership more than likely knew about this. Peel the scab off and let it heal. They clearly are saving their own butts for the money. Why not pray for God’s direction and what if God said sell the church and use the money for sexual abuse victims. People who give to a multi million mega church need to examine their own intentions too.
@gfr120
@gfr120 3 ай бұрын
“I was involved in….” “This behavior happened” Note the use of passive voice to avoid taking responsibility. Also “young lady” where he should have said “12 year old child.”
@lizh1988
@lizh1988 2 ай бұрын
Very good analysis.
@calebborgman7772
@calebborgman7772 3 ай бұрын
Let He or She who has no sin cast the first stone. Morris knows in his heart wether or not he has truly repented. God knows all things, imparts righteousness and mercy. Let's pray for the victim and for Robert.
@sagaciouslyspeaking
@sagaciouslyspeaking 2 ай бұрын
You are absolutely right! However, Morris’ account of what happened and the way he downplayed it suggests he is not truly repentant. He molested a child, not having a consensual relationship with a young lady as he put it. I understand that no one would willingly self-incriminate, but his book and the numerous preachings where he talked about this incident are callous because they retraumatize the victim. Perhaps if he had just kept quiet about the incident, the victim would have healed faster. Anyways, I’m full of sin, so I’m not casting stones and won’t be praying for Robert. My prayers remain with the victim.
@nateoverthehorizon1176
@nateoverthehorizon1176 3 ай бұрын
Life is like South Park now.
@vanessanassif
@vanessanassif 3 ай бұрын
So much
@brendareed1463
@brendareed1463 3 ай бұрын
Hmmm more like the Hampton's 😮
@terrywalker2437
@terrywalker2437 3 ай бұрын
I pray he truly repents. I pray Cindy receives the justice she deserves. I pray for his children, their spouses, and their children - according to his son-in-law his daughter thought he had an affair, but she did not know he had molested a child. I pray for the people that attend Gateway. I pray for all involved.
@GlobalAINewsInsights878
@GlobalAINewsInsights878 3 ай бұрын
HA, HA, HA, "Repent" HA, HA, HA. Those Wolves never change & never REPENT, they LIKE being the way they ARE.
@lizh1988
@lizh1988 2 ай бұрын
We need to pray for discernment and to understand human nature. RM was married to a nice looking young woman. He is just a pervert. He can't stop himself, he has taught that even God cannot control the male urges. He's a liar, a pervert, a money oriented wolf in shepherd's clothing. A lover of himself only, having the appearance of Godliness but denying the Power of God to be able to transform a sinner.
@fillededieu3116
@fillededieu3116 2 ай бұрын
I support your prayer in Jesus name!
@christinamorales6887
@christinamorales6887 3 ай бұрын
He is a predator and there are other victims and hopefully they have the courage to come forward
@ladybolski
@ladybolski 3 ай бұрын
churches seem to be very unsafe places for children and teens. Youth pastors priests, and preachers getting arrested left and right.
@Marjorie-xt1nn
@Marjorie-xt1nn 3 ай бұрын
Actually, it's in the public schools that are much more so.
@KrspySauce
@KrspySauce 3 ай бұрын
@@Marjorie-xt1nnyou are either a bot or clearly trying to spin this as not that bad. I hope you’re a bot, because you are a sick person if not
@ladybolski
@ladybolski 2 ай бұрын
@@Marjorie-xt1nn you know what? I just heard a story about two teachers in Georgia who were arrested for sleeping with students.
@stebanmurrieta1937
@stebanmurrieta1937 3 ай бұрын
Why is all this coming out right now? Why did the IT guy wait so long to speak out? Retaliation? Why did the dad let him off so lightly? Was he paid to shut up? Why did she set a price to be quiet? Then say it's not about the money?
@tomkat1883
@tomkat1883 3 ай бұрын
🎶🎶 Money money money money.....Money! 🎶🎶
@kingfish3066
@kingfish3066 3 ай бұрын
That's pretty wild He's not even Catholic..
@lizh1988
@lizh1988 2 ай бұрын
A lot of church pastors and boards follow the Catholic way of money. Not the statues, etc., but they are worldly.
@VioletUpton
@VioletUpton 3 ай бұрын
Im just glad all you who comment on this, IS NOT MY GOD!! Other wise, there wouldn't be ANYONE IN HEAVEN!
@Marjorie-xt1nn
@Marjorie-xt1nn 3 ай бұрын
True. Except for themselves. They want to sit on Daddy Jesus lap and have all to themselves, everyone else can burn.
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql 3 ай бұрын
I hope your child is not molested.
@emmabranch2930
@emmabranch2930 2 ай бұрын
Amen!!
@PerspectiveEngineer
@PerspectiveEngineer 3 ай бұрын
She was a child and he was an adult... fingers and all
@NewCreationInChrist896
@NewCreationInChrist896 3 ай бұрын
He confessed of inappropriate 10 years ago, he should have stepped down 10 years ago. Psalms 118:8 “It is better to trust in the LORD Than to put confidence in man.”
@elizabethfrancis9135
@elizabethfrancis9135 3 ай бұрын
And that means?
@lizh1988
@lizh1988 2 ай бұрын
He shouldn't be around children, ever.
@johnmcevoy3598
@johnmcevoy3598 3 ай бұрын
12 is not a 'young lady'. She was a _child._
@Marjorie-xt1nn
@Marjorie-xt1nn 3 ай бұрын
Remember that most times the "abuser" was once also the sexually abused child themselves. Just as Robert Morris unfortunately and sadly was. So now all we have here is one sexually abused victim trying to destroy another sexually abused victim as children. Churches need to learn how to vet their pastors better.
@Billpeterson4785
@Billpeterson4785 3 ай бұрын
@@Marjorie-xt1nn categorically false
@Marjorie-xt1nn
@Marjorie-xt1nn 3 ай бұрын
@@Billpeterson4785Not false. It's true.
@Billpeterson4785
@Billpeterson4785 3 ай бұрын
@@Marjorie-xt1nn math is not your strong point…if “most” people did that, there would be nothing but sexual predators after 100 years.
@CynthiaSmith4
@CynthiaSmith4 3 ай бұрын
Morris is such a despicable person.
@TheFaithAlexander
@TheFaithAlexander 3 ай бұрын
I hope there aren’t others. Praying for everyone involved. I also have been abused by people who claimed to serve and love God as a child. I hope Cindy can forgive and not poison herself with this horrible event. I’m so sry this happened to you. ❤
@memyselfi5900
@memyselfi5900 3 ай бұрын
IMO Her parents need to be charged. Cindy has repeatley wanted money, she quoted a scripture on her interview which i find disturbing she hasnt found God, she threatend he pay her or else. She was 12 and it went on for 5 years she was 17? Sound a little sus, she question her parents and he sought councel what was his results from counceling. I dont think he should be charged. He was forgiven by all at that time but she wants money now sounds weird to me. She needs to find God and forgiveness, isnt that what the buble says? Why does she need money
@tomkat1883
@tomkat1883 3 ай бұрын
"Why does she need money". 2020 divorce and trying to keep paying her mortgage on her $800K+ home. As a Realtor, trying to make money today must be quite difficult. Average Americans cannot afford mortgages anymore. Thank Bidenflation for that.
@MalaKuppan-x3h
@MalaKuppan-x3h 3 ай бұрын
Oh my word you want money why she don't tell the public she wants money to keep quite oh my word what do you do in a situation like this bringing the gospel of jesus he already died for us what more you'll want he coming again you'll better repent and stay repented before he comes
@TammyRowe-l4w
@TammyRowe-l4w 3 ай бұрын
Will he go to prison?
@caroletta451
@caroletta451 3 ай бұрын
No, statute of limitations has expired! Sick, really. If another woman should come forward, perhaps, within the time line.
@laurykristensen6239
@laurykristensen6239 3 ай бұрын
​@@caroletta451It occurred in both Texas and Oklahoma. It's expired in Oklahoma, but I searched Texas Statutes of limitations and it doesn't appear to expire if a minor is SAed?
@caroletta451
@caroletta451 3 ай бұрын
@@laurykristensen6239 That would be wonderful!
@laurykristensen6239
@laurykristensen6239 3 ай бұрын
@@caroletta451 I think as it stands that although the law was changed in Texas, it may not be retroactive. In some States it is, and her lawyer is working to have that changed. I was thinking the church also had responsibilities when she reported to them. Maybe she has a lawsuit to go after the church for restoration? I'm hoping now that they are investigating, they will do the right thing by her.
@tomkat1883
@tomkat1883 3 ай бұрын
@@laurykristensen6239 The new law is 30 years. Still too late and not retroactive. Her father FAILED her by not reporting to the police. Now it is all about $$$.
@dcole2133
@dcole2133 3 ай бұрын
Y’all trying to minimize this. Sick 🤢
@jaydenmathews2221
@jaydenmathews2221 3 ай бұрын
Yall? Bruh they just posted almost a half hour video about it what else do you want
@dcole2133
@dcole2133 3 ай бұрын
@@jaydenmathews2221 I was speaking of ol Marjorie down in the comments… she’s minimizing
@Marjorie-xt1nn
@Marjorie-xt1nn 3 ай бұрын
@@dcole2133 No I'm not, just stating just a couple of the facts media isn't reporting. Cindy wasn't this little innocent angel like you are led to believe either.
@elizabethlacky6068
@elizabethlacky6068 3 ай бұрын
​@@Marjorie-xt1nn Have a nice day, Debbie.
@Marjorie-xt1nn
@Marjorie-xt1nn 3 ай бұрын
@@elizabethlacky6068 Morris wife Debbie forgave her because Cindy was hoping to take her husband away from her, in that ongoing relationship that Morris eventually broke off. So, then Cindy ends up marrying a man later that looked alot like Morris but was even older than him. She divorced him of many years in 2020.
@gregorycarlson6632
@gregorycarlson6632 3 ай бұрын
“Behold, you have sinned against the Lord, and be sure your sin will find you out.” Numbers 32:23
@laurykristensen6239
@laurykristensen6239 3 ай бұрын
God is patient and just. He thought he escaped punishment when he wasn't charged criminally. God forgives but he doesn't forget, and there is always a price to pay. Morris has profitted from his lies for years , time to settle up.
@tomkat1883
@tomkat1883 3 ай бұрын
@@laurykristensen6239 Hebrews 8:12 disagrees with you. "For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more."
@stephaniequintini49
@stephaniequintini49 3 ай бұрын
These reporters are an absolute abomination. Their use of words are misleading and deceitful. “Allegations” and “young man”. You’re either an adult or you’re a child. If he admitted to the deplorable acts, it’s not an “allegation”. End of story.
@righteousone1
@righteousone1 3 ай бұрын
Sounds about wyte!
@Cherrylipgloss2025
@Cherrylipgloss2025 3 ай бұрын
@@righteousone1 it's right! Can you go back to grade school please?
@righteousone1
@righteousone1 3 ай бұрын
@@Cherrylipgloss2025 lol delusional
@PatriciaFalcon-u2m
@PatriciaFalcon-u2m 3 ай бұрын
100%agree wirh you..liberal media just wanting for a Christian pastor to look bad .
@johnmcevoy3598
@johnmcevoy3598 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like a confession. Oh wait, _IT IS._
@gigglesribera2379
@gigglesribera2379 3 ай бұрын
She was a child. She wasn't a young lady. She wasn't a young woman. She was a little girl. She was a child. A kid. Where's the investigation? Where's the outrage? There are more girls and / or victims. Where is law enforcement now. His reputation has been questionable for some time. Why has it been covered up? Where was the investigation then? Where's the legal officials now? This here will be one of many reasons ppl will walk away, have walked away, and will continue to leave Christianity. It is and will be the hypocrisy. Watch his videos he is pretty clear in his intentions.
@donnaleveron5711
@donnaleveron5711 3 ай бұрын
Matthew 18:6
@laurykristensen6239
@laurykristensen6239 3 ай бұрын
@gigglesribera2379 Hopefully others will come forward, this behavior usually has multiple victims. In his sermons he speaks of "girls" he sought after. I think the statute of limitations is open in cases of serial r@pe. Perhaps her lawyers advised that she go public for this reason? Hoping for justice. 🙏
@tomkat1883
@tomkat1883 3 ай бұрын
Her father should have pressed charges THEN. Why didn't he?
@gigglesribera2379
@gigglesribera2379 3 ай бұрын
@tomkat1883 Your response in blaming the families of victim is gaslighting.
@nickit22
@nickit22 3 ай бұрын
I was abused by girls aging 6-30 so please understand this is a big problem.
@John_Hoover
@John_Hoover 3 ай бұрын
Nothing like waiting 35 years to speak the truth...
@laurykristensen6239
@laurykristensen6239 3 ай бұрын
She was trying to deal with him privately through the church as her father originally did. She only waited to go public because of years without any acknowledgement from him or his church
@Billpeterson4785
@Billpeterson4785 3 ай бұрын
@@John_Hoover Leave the cult bro
@tomkat1883
@tomkat1883 3 ай бұрын
sssssshhhhhhhh I didn't really need the money then, but now I do!!!
@John_Hoover
@John_Hoover 3 ай бұрын
@@Billpeterson4785 Ya, totally “cultish” to wonder why someone would wait over a third of a century to make this known…
@basilhendricks788
@basilhendricks788 3 ай бұрын
They keep the church in the family that is nepotism,Paul would gave expelled him
@Marjorie-xt1nn
@Marjorie-xt1nn 3 ай бұрын
Most ministries and churches are started by a family. I don't think that Paul would have had a problem with that.
@basilhendricks788
@basilhendricks788 3 ай бұрын
@Marjorie-xt1nn keep the money in the family ,American church is in bad shape a movement of goats 🐐
@basilhendricks788
@basilhendricks788 3 ай бұрын
@Marjorie-xt1nn it's about finishing the race now his sitting at home playing with his toes ,Paul says lest I be disqualified
@donnaleveron5711
@donnaleveron5711 3 ай бұрын
1 Corinthians 5:1-5, Matthew 18:6
@basilhendricks788
@basilhendricks788 3 ай бұрын
@Marjorie-xt1nn show references don't give an opinion that is why the American churches are in trouble it's all opinions and no word
@357CLOUDY
@357CLOUDY 3 ай бұрын
A lot of snakes in this church... People in comments actually praying for this creep. I'm praying for this woman. She should sue for slander.
@hoodstarza.m.g5809
@hoodstarza.m.g5809 3 ай бұрын
Slander for what?
@laurykristensen6239
@laurykristensen6239 3 ай бұрын
@357CLOUDY The church hired a lawfirm for an internal investigation. This, I'm sure is for their own protection but may also help bring some justice for Cindy. They will see she informed certain elders about Morris, but it was ignored. Her lawyer is working to have statute of limitations changed as well. (It's been done in some States). If she hadn't gone to the media nothing would be happening at all. She was out of options after repeatedly trying to get resolution.
@tomkat1883
@tomkat1883 3 ай бұрын
@@laurykristensen6239 "She was out of options after repeatedly trying to get resolution." So, she should have outed him in 2005 after the $50K rejection. Why now? Why wait 19 more years? Does that make a lot of sense? NOPE. This is no longer about justice. It is about $$$.
@FAFOSecurity
@FAFOSecurity 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like a cover up by his fellow associates
@sduvenhage
@sduvenhage 2 ай бұрын
I have recorded all Past Robbert's Sermons. I have heard time and again his remorse about his immorality in his sermons. He always warned about that. And now I want to repeat what I heard now. A man who unfortunately used 2 words young lady(I thought it was to not let anybody know who it was)wrongly for a deed he did 35 yrs ago. And repented at his church and was punished for 2 years and apologised to the father and elders before being reinstated. That he is now excommunicated by all chuches and condemned by all. Did he do the 2nd unpardonable sin? Please pick up the first stone all his accusers. As I have heard the tiny girl went to HIS room! Wrong. But so sorry Past Robert. I hope the person who accuses him, will think at night if she feels better. Now that everybody knows and that Past Roberts is verbally condemned....
@Grown_B
@Grown_B Ай бұрын
Yall gotta stop with this shot.. forreal.
@davidcruz8057
@davidcruz8057 3 ай бұрын
Let’s not forget that it was Cindy’s dad that chose not to go to the authorities to have Robert arrested, but allow the pastor and the elders of the church judge the matter (1 Corinthians 6:1-2). Let’s also not forget that on October of 89, after the church’s pastor and elders had “judged” Robert, completed the restoration process and release him back into ministry, that now PASTOR Robert, for SEVEN months (something Cindy and her dad must’ve know) and his wife went to Cindy (now three months shy of her 20th birthday) and her dad’s home to ask for forgiveness. By ALL accounts Cindy and her dad forgave PASTOR Robert. Everything is possible, but it’s hard to believe that Cindy’s dad would grant Robert forgiveness if he was so much (according to Cindy) against him being back in ministry as a pastor. Of course he is now dead and has no say into Cindy’s allegations, now in 2024. So my question is, if she does not dispute that as an almost 20 year old “young lady” she and her dad forgave pastor Robert, what exactly, now at 54, is she after trying to crucify and destroy pastor Robert’s ministry and life because, supposedly, 16 years after “forgiving” him he would not give her fifty thousand dollars to help with the treatment for the damage that Robert supposedly inflicted on her?
@linegrant4605
@linegrant4605 3 ай бұрын
Nailed it 💯👌 her parents failed her 💯 now she's retaliating 💯
@shelleybuerer4502
@shelleybuerer4502 3 ай бұрын
@@linegrant4605 she’s finally able to think clearer from the trauma she experienced. Adults failed her and she found her voice.
@tomkat1883
@tomkat1883 3 ай бұрын
@@linegrant4605 If this goes to civil court, the parents will need to tell the truth as to why they did not contact the police. What are they hiding?
@emmabranch2930
@emmabranch2930 2 ай бұрын
​@@tomkat1883Her father is deceased. Not sure about her mother.
@tomkat1883
@tomkat1883 2 ай бұрын
@@emmabranch2930 Perhaps he is, perhaps he is not. I found obits on both of her father's brothers (1999 & 2023), but nothing on him.
@slagambi
@slagambi 3 ай бұрын
Sorry I put my faith in God and the word given by God called the Bible. Not in churches their paid by the government
@DonnaCone-d3p
@DonnaCone-d3p 2 ай бұрын
Robert Morris had already confessed to this and asked for forgiveness and sat down with her father. This lady is just wanting money
@Clare-t8r
@Clare-t8r 3 ай бұрын
Forgiveness in Christ does NOT mean freedom from proper judgement. Admitting to / or getting caught in the act (four years) of the FELONY of child molestation in no way dismisses the need for civil punishment. "Retiring" from the pulpit is NOT civil justice. Apologizing is not civil justice. At a minimum, RM and all his family should lose all $$$ claims to GATEWAY, KINGS COLLEGE, future PUBLISHING, real and personal properties. Their empire has been built on a lie and they should be stopped from the continuation of ill gotten gain. Congregation members have a responsibility to withhold their money from the church until RM and his family are truly separated from ALL association with Gateway and their side hustles. $$$ is the true god that RM bends a knee to.
@betgayle8402
@betgayle8402 3 ай бұрын
i am SO TIRED of people claiming SIN's of people 30 plus years ago, NOW there is big $ to get!!! i admit & so does he what he did was wrong---TELL ME___HOW MANY OF US DID SOME "VERY WRONG/SINFUL " STUPID THINGS when we were Young ? we ALL end up paying for our sins in some way and GOD may still use us . GOD SAYS you do not forgive, you can Not be forgiven---that is what He died for us for!! HE is our advocate!
@ijadorejewels4065
@ijadorejewels4065 3 ай бұрын
I agree. Im a survivor of SA and I believe in justice, the money grab is.......I don't know. I believe most people change throughout the years and they are forgiven. But as a survivor of SA I understand what victims have had to endure throughout the years also😢
@jeffreypowell4896
@jeffreypowell4896 3 ай бұрын
Amen!
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql 3 ай бұрын
This guy needs to be in jail!
@elsaflores6537
@elsaflores6537 3 ай бұрын
My question is, why didn't the parents report this????!!!!!!! Yes, it's wrong in every way, but i question the girls parents.
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql 3 ай бұрын
Because they are bound by the same demonic stronghold.
@tinamumau5851
@tinamumau5851 3 ай бұрын
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones 😢 l am sad for all who are participants and I pray the Lord Jesus will heal all of us from this trauma! I love Pastor Morris! I was abused many years ago starting at 3 yrs old. It took many years for me to forgive and to move forward! This situation was brought to light with all parties when Cindy was 17…place all of this in Gods hands and deal with your own heart to be upright with God and before God!
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql 3 ай бұрын
He should be in prison
@TheGothicdolphin
@TheGothicdolphin 3 ай бұрын
House Bill 3809 now permits victims to file their civil sexual abuse lawsuit 30 years after their 18th birthday. The act became effective on September. 1, 2019. This means that victims have until they reach 48 years old to file their lawsuit. Victims now have much more time to file their lawsuits and hold their alleged abusers accountable.
@mistermister8998
@mistermister8998 3 ай бұрын
Lord help us. There’s no one else we can trust
@codewx
@codewx 3 ай бұрын
Thats worth a few million in damages. Shes doesnt talk about it anymore and church coughs up 3M?
@whoareyouwhenimnotlooking
@whoareyouwhenimnotlooking 3 ай бұрын
12 is not a lady shes a child
@AquinaHeustonPyanne
@AquinaHeustonPyanne 3 ай бұрын
The lady is now 45 ,she needs to get over it , this is an attack on the church.. this issue is already sorted out. Its a long time ago she needs to get over it. He already admitted.. Jesus already forgave him . She is an adult now
@Marjorie-xt1nn
@Marjorie-xt1nn 3 ай бұрын
She is actually 54.
@mystiquesquared
@mystiquesquared 3 ай бұрын
The lord says differently.
@gfr120
@gfr120 3 ай бұрын
Taking the side of the abuser and telling the victim to “get over it.” There’s no hate like Christian love.
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql 3 ай бұрын
You are deceived by satan
@laurykristensen6239
@laurykristensen6239 3 ай бұрын
Actually, now that the church knows the truth they are going to do a thorough investigation. He lied to the church about what he did years ago. They believed he repented and the old records didn't describe the truth, only inappropriateness with a "young lady". He carried this lie throughout his role as leader. They are not pleased! He knows he's caught, that's why he resigned.
@sueschulman2291
@sueschulman2291 2 ай бұрын
He perhaps sought forgiveness. Most people never forgive or forget. Let's not throw the first stone. We haven't heard the complete story yet. Pray for Morris and his family, for God's will to be brought to light.❤
@judithmiller7308
@judithmiller7308 3 ай бұрын
He never stepped down from ministry, as evidenced by the newspaper articles from various states posting announcements of church meetings where he would be preaching. No accountability.
@fayeg3026
@fayeg3026 3 ай бұрын
It happened when he was in his 20s. Dont you think Pastor Morris repented by that time? Why is the Body of Christ bringing it up now!
@rosmac8431
@rosmac8431 3 ай бұрын
He did not repent, he even lied about the age of the victim, and he kept blaming her even though she was 12 years old when the first attack happened. He even monetized his false testimony and wrote a book about his "fall" when it really was a crime.
@7songsofthunder
@7songsofthunder 3 ай бұрын
If he told just one person then he did repent.
@magaareinbredhillbillies
@magaareinbredhillbillies 3 ай бұрын
say in the bible to obey the law. repent is for suckers.
@nenar4097
@nenar4097 3 ай бұрын
I honestly don’t see repentance. When David got confronted with his sin with Bathsheba, he fell on the floor crying and accepted the consequences of his sin. This man has undermined his sin, calling her a young lady instead of a child. Stating he only touched but didn’t have intercourse. His wife even called the girl to “forgive” her for enticing her husband. When you are the predator to a child, you don’t get to make light of their trauma. If he has to lose his megachurch pastor status and all the money he makes from that, what a small sacrifice. He can still have a relationship with Christ and that is all that matters. If his sadness comes from losing his status and reputation, then it’s not true repentance. That’s a Saul and not a David.
@sandythomas8911
@sandythomas8911 3 ай бұрын
​@@7songsofthunderNOT If he DIDN'T tell that one person, or few persons, the true Facts of the activity.
@superblondeDotOrg
@superblondeDotOrg 3 ай бұрын
Passes on power to his own family member... ummmmm not justifiable.
@mikepowers7950
@mikepowers7950 3 ай бұрын
So many sexual scandal going on in the church is scary.
@MarieFesta-rg4pm
@MarieFesta-rg4pm Ай бұрын
Very sad. He was a huge huge pastor and Gateway church we know is a Mega church. Hearing this and hearing Pastor Morris on few of his speeches acknowledges his past sexual sins and after all those years they have caught up to him. This is a pastor that many looked up to. My prayers are for him, his family, church, and all of us who were not present in his church, but were present in seeing him on TV and we also looked up to him. This teaches us that sin no matter how lengthy it was it will catch up. My heart today is very broken by this news.
@tgWNN984
@tgWNN984 3 ай бұрын
He needs to be in jail. Pedophiles should be charged and dismissed. If you know what i mean.
@tomkat1883
@tomkat1883 3 ай бұрын
That could have happened if Cindy's father involved the police in 1987. But he didn't. He failed her. Too much dirty laundry to hide.
@lindawest4580
@lindawest4580 3 ай бұрын
Sorry but being someone who's been sexually abused by I was 10 growing up she's not ever forgiven and GOD will deal with her. Gateway church is a different church not the church that is actually is at fault.
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql 3 ай бұрын
He needs to be in prison
@denalowry8710
@denalowry8710 3 ай бұрын
Hey while all this was going on - Robert Morris and his wife Debbie were in a cruise to Greece. Possibly looking for movie locations. Morris really suffering
@gfr120
@gfr120 3 ай бұрын
Notably, not a drag queen.
@JanetB1271
@JanetB1271 3 ай бұрын
God is cleaning house!
@pen7857
@pen7857 3 ай бұрын
...end tax free exemptions.
@MalaKuppan-x3h
@MalaKuppan-x3h 3 ай бұрын
The bible tells us many will fall away in the last days so not a surprise to a person who in the spirit of God God already warms us
@user-rb1yf4he9q
@user-rb1yf4he9q 3 ай бұрын
This is Trump’s spiritual advisor? More like his connection to find young girls.
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql 3 ай бұрын
All these people ride in the same wicked boat.
@JuditaRhoan
@JuditaRhoan 3 ай бұрын
Wolves in sheep clothing a priest did the same thing to me also I told me not to tell anyone I told me what happens to the others and he don't know what would happen to me if I talk.
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql 3 ай бұрын
I know of some that have been molested by priests. One was threaten that they were going to be killed if they told.
@lauramosca-calisti8295
@lauramosca-calisti8295 2 ай бұрын
A crime!!! A child!!!
@roselee4445
@roselee4445 3 ай бұрын
Glad you stepped out. God help you heal.
@kathyschleifer3306
@kathyschleifer3306 3 ай бұрын
Shocked !
@lindaleisure927
@lindaleisure927 3 ай бұрын
MORRIS SAID HE REPENTED SO IF TRUE HE WAS FORGIVEN .ONLY HE KNOWS AND GOD . MORRIS I SAY IS A VERY PRIDEFULL MAN WITH A HUGE EGO . MORRIS HAS A MONEY MAKING BUSINESS. MAYBE HE CAN GET HIS PRIDE UNDER CONTROLL NOW AND STOP MAKING MONEY HIS FIRST GOAL !
@terihaynes-yf9jb
@terihaynes-yf9jb 3 ай бұрын
Another pastor. Say hell, mary , all is forgiven. No accountability, predator.
@jayblack3926
@jayblack3926 3 ай бұрын
‘Christian’ right.. not at all right. Ahhh Texas
@PrayersForYou888
@PrayersForYou888 3 ай бұрын
Is Morris still on payroll or did he receive 'severance pay'? These are important questions not answered and should have been part of the statement regarding the resignation...including the actual effective date of the resignation. Had there been an involuntary termination of the contract, there would have been more important facts about the severance terms available from the 'church'. Is there a period during which he shall be paid or a severance 'bonus' that ultimately will pay for his silence and 'staying with their story' if there is litigation or criminal charges against the victim?! Him resigning in Trump's birthdate raises many concerns, especially due to Morris being one of his MANY spiritual advisors. Looks like it is a call out for a Trump nominated judge to be assigned to handle civil litigation to determine the outcome before a case is even filed.
@utehalltreece.3491
@utehalltreece.3491 2 ай бұрын
I LOVE YOU PASTOR ROBERT, REMEMBER, LET HIM WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE. GOD FORGAVE WAY BACK THEN AND HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT COUNT'S.
@agrrb7
@agrrb7 Ай бұрын
The fault is with the Father, he should´ve gone straight to the police. Sexual predators make friends with the family to get to the children. The Father approached the church instead of the authorities. He would´ve been jailed for years if the father had done the right thing. But he was left to live and deceive the church. He even lied in his book that he left the ministry for two years because of pride, as everyone kept telling him how good was his preaching! When in fact he was forced to take those two years by the church! So, he even spun that in his favor, with a false humility, with everybody commending him!
@Chuck-qi8pw
@Chuck-qi8pw 3 ай бұрын
The statute of limitations will protect him legally. However, it’s doubtful he will ever pastor a church again. The church board may have some liability. They are suppose to manage the church properly. FRANKLY, ITS BEEN TOO LONG. IT REALLY HURTS THE CHURCH NATIONWIDE. WHEN IT COMES TO UNDERAGED CHILDREN, I think the Statute of Limitations should be changed. Otherwise, how do we stop this happening over and over again.
@tomkat1883
@tomkat1883 3 ай бұрын
It would have stopped right away when the Father found out had he called the police in 1987. But he didn't. Toby Clemishire failed his daughter. It could have stopped even sooner if Cindy's sister Karen would have said something sooner. Cindy and Karen shared a Bedroom. I find it very difficult to believe that Karen did not know anything before 1987...sister's talk. I also believe that the reason that the police were not involved in 1987 is because the family knew beforehand and did nothing making them look bad if the police got involved. Sweep it under the rug, so to speak to protect the "family" integrity. Statute of Limitations do not need to be changed if people act promptly. In this case, nobody did.
@vstefe1280
@vstefe1280 3 ай бұрын
More to this story.
@cho9171
@cho9171 3 ай бұрын
Anyone thinking the majority of pastors are holy at this point are beyond delusional.
@Billpeterson4785
@Billpeterson4785 3 ай бұрын
Thinking ANYONE speaks for the sky gods is delusional
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql 3 ай бұрын
True!
@utehalltreece.3491
@utehalltreece.3491 3 ай бұрын
I COULD TELL YOU ABOUT A " PREACHER" IN COLUMBIA,TN. WHO'S DONE WORSE AND IS STILL "PREACHING"
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql 3 ай бұрын
Then you need to speak out and expose it.
@utehalltreece.3491
@utehalltreece.3491 2 ай бұрын
@@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql THE CHURCH IS LIKE A KULT, NO ONE WILL LISTEN TO ME . I KNOW,GOD WILL INTERVENE.
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql 2 ай бұрын
@@utehalltreece.3491 I agree. It is sad because many are deceived. But many don’t want to know the truth.
@kathrynstrickland7373
@kathrynstrickland7373 3 ай бұрын
He has resigned!!
@SMAWA9
@SMAWA9 3 ай бұрын
Old news. Also they all do this.
@charmainejackson4264
@charmainejackson4264 2 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ paid a very high price for our sins, and where there is true repentance, God's forgiveness is complete. I have heard people saying, on social media, that Robert Morris did not repent.... I find this to be a shocking statement, how dare any human being feel that they know anothers heart? We bearly know our own hearts......By the stripes that Jesus bore in His body, we were healed, and i believe that only God can heal brokenness.....My heart breaks for Cindy, especially as i have three beautiful daughters, but i am struggling to understand what restitution could ever heal what took place? Money can't heal, words cant heal, seeing others punished won't heal. Please could someone explain to me, outside of the supernatural healing power of God, what could make this right for Cindy? This burning flame has become a consuming wildfire, bringing hurt and devastation to 100's possibly 1000's.What restitution would be adequate?
@MalaKuppan-x3h
@MalaKuppan-x3h 3 ай бұрын
We be hearing alot of abuse how come the person continue to have this relationship for a period of time knowing if they so young very confusing we teach our kids not to let a grown up or any person to touch you so they know that it wrong
@gustavo180764
@gustavo180764 2 ай бұрын
I am wondering. What is the purpose now? is anybody trying to do any justice? almost 40 years later? I would not expect it from any Man...
@lizh1988
@lizh1988 2 ай бұрын
She has been trying since she was seventeen.
@LightHouse5G
@LightHouse5G 3 ай бұрын
Morris need do nothing. Jesus is the answer.
@terryarmstrong8598
@terryarmstrong8598 3 ай бұрын
Heckuva "resignation." Business as usual.
@mloy1915
@mloy1915 3 ай бұрын
He has on more Makeup then my wife.
@tradingarsenal9767
@tradingarsenal9767 3 ай бұрын
1:30 - "Met with the survivor..." LMFAO!!! WAY TO BE PUT A VICTIM BADGE ON SOMEONE EVEN IF THEY DON'T WANT IT!
@Lyng60
@Lyng60 2 ай бұрын
Past don't judge,people can change,
@brentappleton4086
@brentappleton4086 2 ай бұрын
Resigns but son takes over to keep it going and that money coming in. If he puts the son in charge nothing really changes! Shame on you all. Disgusting. No wonder there is a great falling away in the church world
@bill2066
@bill2066 3 ай бұрын
Isn't this Old news already? A Presidential Debate Tonight? INTERESTING Timing and the "pushing" of this story....CBS, so go figure.
@johnmcevoy3598
@johnmcevoy3598 3 ай бұрын
If it is truly thine, owneth it.
@patriot4amer
@patriot4amer 3 ай бұрын
CBS should be reporting on human trafficking at border
@lizh1988
@lizh1988 2 ай бұрын
This is probably part of it, probably connected.
@ruthray9868
@ruthray9868 2 ай бұрын
He repented a long time ago. Got counceling and God forgave him. Why dig it up now? We all have sinned and fallen short . Do you want people to dig up your past sins?
@Vickielynnrenegar
@Vickielynnrenegar 3 ай бұрын
Lol I can't tell the Pharisees from the Saducees anymore. All things written are for our admonition, even this fiasco. I don't recall a single child molester anywhere in the scriptures, though they did sacrifice their children to idols. Judgment begins in the house of god. I get it all the time & am deeply grateful for it because we all need to grow the heck up, and being judged and disciplined is helping me get there. Good day all
@MalaKuppan-x3h
@MalaKuppan-x3h 3 ай бұрын
This girl was not a baby 12 years she was old enough to tell her parents about it so she knows her parent will protect her why she acting now to tell that story
@tomkat1883
@tomkat1883 3 ай бұрын
How did her sister Karen not know anything? They shared a bedroom, and she is 3 years older than Cindy. I have never seen sisters NOT talk to one another. Somebody knew and it was tamped down. This explains why charges were not filed. The family was trying to hide that they knew before 1987.
@whoareyouwhenimnotlooking
@whoareyouwhenimnotlooking 3 ай бұрын
Pedifiles jesus or no jesus do not reform phycolog8cally
@nenar4097
@nenar4097 3 ай бұрын
What’s the most irritating is the way that it stated by him to make light of the situation. He engaged in inappropriate behavior with a young lady. No dude, you molested a kid. How different it would have sounded if he had been on the pulpit confessing it as it actually is than the white washed version of it.
@evelyn7881
@evelyn7881 3 ай бұрын
MORE LIKE....WITH A BABY
@EWDDG
@EWDDG 3 ай бұрын
How many others are out there that he molested?
@markieffmorris9263
@markieffmorris9263 3 ай бұрын
I would have just assumed he was closeted from the photo. What a POS
@essajoulani1083
@essajoulani1083 3 ай бұрын
Will! They do all that and then they cray and ask for forgiveness! Every time! And their will be more and more of him to come 😂
@calisweetheart333
@calisweetheart333 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if he would use that same language had it been his own daughter/grandkids/wife, etc. 🤔
@corinnecepeda7063
@corinnecepeda7063 3 ай бұрын
When are we going to STOP putting these people on a pedestal?????? That's the first step.
@LanternFlies
@LanternFlies 3 ай бұрын
Gawd and white jesus hate background checks and love kid fiddlers.
@zigzoog123
@zigzoog123 3 ай бұрын
the ones preaching are the ones committing the crimes
@Beata-wr2qu
@Beata-wr2qu 2 ай бұрын
he should be in jail, not in the pulpit!!!! how dares he speak to the congregation about his crime as if it was a learning process??? 😢
@precious5663
@precious5663 3 ай бұрын
Never ever leave your kids alone with the clergy .
@paulachinn6306
@paulachinn6306 3 ай бұрын
With anyone
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql
@RaptureReadyforJesus-qv2ql 3 ай бұрын
Agree!
@zigzoog123
@zigzoog123 3 ай бұрын
truth
@TammyRowe-l4w
@TammyRowe-l4w 2 ай бұрын
Or a teacher
@Encourager-Purpose-Destiny
@Encourager-Purpose-Destiny 3 ай бұрын
The sad part about this, he told his members he went after "girls" who didn't have strong father figures or were vulnerable. He taught them how to do it by saying how he did it. So, he had to be lying when he said it was only one woman (a 12-year-old girl). It had to be more young girls he violated or abused because he said he went after "girls" not one girl.
@Cwbyupdfw
@Cwbyupdfw 3 ай бұрын
Exactly! I believe there are more out there from his own words!
@zigzoog123
@zigzoog123 3 ай бұрын
criminal
@nataliehidalgo8933
@nataliehidalgo8933 3 ай бұрын
When he spoke of seeking young girls he was in high school.
@Encourager-Purpose-Destiny
@Encourager-Purpose-Destiny 3 ай бұрын
@@nataliehidalgo8933 He wasn't in high school when he molested Cindy. And Cindy was a very young girl. And at 12 years old you are in Jr. High.
@Encourager-Purpose-Destiny
@Encourager-Purpose-Destiny 3 ай бұрын
@@nataliehidalgo8933 No, that is not true. Because Cindy was a young girl that was in Jr. High School when he sleeked her out and molested her.
@itsapassion
@itsapassion 3 ай бұрын
Who is paying for Gateway’s legal team? My tithes were not meant to support immoral behavior. This is on the elders who allowed Robert Morris to return to the pulpit, ignored Cindy’s accusations and swept it under the rug.
@Marjorie-xt1nn
@Marjorie-xt1nn 3 ай бұрын
Morris was the founder of Gateway church and he hired the pastors.
@jaydenmathews2221
@jaydenmathews2221 3 ай бұрын
Your tithes aren’t supposed to be for the church but for God. You’re tithing for the wrong reason. That’s what an offering is for that is for the church.
@anniegoulaheee8025
@anniegoulaheee8025 3 ай бұрын
​@@jaydenmathews2221why does God need money?
@sweetiemoodley1779
@sweetiemoodley1779 3 ай бұрын
Giving is for your breakthri.
@renetorrez4940
@renetorrez4940 3 ай бұрын
Exactly sweet friend that's why we pulled our ties away from the church we made a phone call and told him to stop tithing and we're sending it somewhere else
@fulanichild3138
@fulanichild3138 3 ай бұрын
Her parents are also to blame. Instead of allowing the church to "handle it internally", meaning no consequences for the molester, they should have gone directly to the police.
@Billpeterson4785
@Billpeterson4785 3 ай бұрын
In the 80s? Nothing would have happened…also…cults teach their members NEVER to go to civil authorities
@zigzoog123
@zigzoog123 3 ай бұрын
people who are supposed to protect children are themselves sexual predators and they preach in the church, and are let go free for their sexual crimes
@carriemccurley-th8gn
@carriemccurley-th8gn 3 ай бұрын
We shouldn't blame her parents. The only one to blame is him and the elders who enabled this to continue. They are ALL mandated reporters. He should be in jail.
@laurykristensen6239
@laurykristensen6239 3 ай бұрын
​@@carriemccurley-th8gnThe parents were very close friends with him. It must have been agonizing for them as Christians especially. They trusted the church and believed he would never preach again. They didn't even get that minimal justice. They knew if they went to the police his life would be completely ruined. I can understand their struggle. (I think it would be like getting someone fired as opposed to being criminally charged? But the idiots rehired him)
@carriemccurley-th8gn
@carriemccurley-th8gn 3 ай бұрын
@@laurykristensen6239 I have seen this first hand in the church. Parents who are strong believers and want to give time for grace and mercy for the abuser to be "restored" rather than going to the law first. They are well-meaning, but unfortunately, the abusers usually go on to prey on more victims. I'm sure they regret that now, but it's easy to play Monday morning quarterback if you've never been through this.
@adabee
@adabee 3 ай бұрын
How shocking. An evangelist abuses a young girl, and his worshippers continue to worship him
@AquinaHeustonPyanne
@AquinaHeustonPyanne 3 ай бұрын
This happened before the church started..
@kerrymack9022
@kerrymack9022 3 ай бұрын
WE don’t worship a pastor we worship Jesus.Every man is a sinner, including you.
@lizh1988
@lizh1988 2 ай бұрын
Yes, they idolize men who tell them what they want to hear.
@Teetech37
@Teetech37 3 ай бұрын
I am leary of any church that allows an outgoing pastor to “appoint” his successor. They should form a pastor search committee, find a good interim pastor than can guide the church through that process (normally about a year), and then trust the process.
@c.greystone9825
@c.greystone9825 3 ай бұрын
The outgoing scandalous pastor will always appoint from his or her family or if there is no family members, he or she will assign a crony so that he or she can still maintain control of the church h especially the finances.
@danielmoore2320
@danielmoore2320 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@magaareinbredhillbillies
@magaareinbredhillbillies 3 ай бұрын
we know he's still making lots of money from the church.
@dfwguy7149
@dfwguy7149 3 ай бұрын
precisely why I left my last church....founding pastor groomed and selected his protege' and then pushed it thru...plus I became leary of all the 'pastors' on staff...it was like a corporate business with lots of young woke pastors running around in skinny jeans womens tennis shoes and speaking jesus. Covid drove the final nail...they all caved to the BS promoting vaxxines and being a good little citizen while being mur*dered by the govt.
@linegrant4605
@linegrant4605 3 ай бұрын
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