I think I've seen enough of this company's unboxings, along with your experiece today, to not trust them. I think they definitely stacked the box for you. Gold, silver, gemstones, Pandora, lol. They knew what they had.
@humblethriftcrafter9870 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I feel the same. She always does honest reviews. To tell you the truth, I feel like I have had more luck with ebay jewelry lots as I could never afford to buy a box like that .
@jenniferveers74032 жыл бұрын
So the one you bought yourself had 0 silver, 0 gold, 0 designer, 0 rings, 0 vintage. The one they sent you had all that. Yeah they stacked it and sent you a good box to gain interest.
@teresalong7772 жыл бұрын
I do think the box they sent you to open was added to. They sell on EBay as ATS as well. They have large lots of 10 kt and 14 kt gold and sterling silver as well as occasional watch lots and jewelry lots. They used to have 30 lb lots of jewelry on eBay but since they started the website, I don’t see them any more. I have ordered several boxes and have gotten some nice designer items but the silver/gold I have come across is very minimal. The tiny thin chains that are broken bits in a tangle. I did get a box with close to 50 rings but they were in rough shape. There were a couple marked sterling but I haven’t tested them yet. They don’t sell single pieces of jewelry at their stores or eBay so the chance of getting name brand is very good. I probably get 25 pairs of earrings and 75 singles sometimes. I will order again but just let people know not to expect precious metals. Especially like the ones you got that were nicer pieces. I feel like they pulled a few out of their precious metals stock and put them in there. I could be wrong but thought I would let you know my experience.
@inittoflipit20522 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@alowe3382 жыл бұрын
I agree they have a plan.
@hchayes94312 жыл бұрын
I have ordered nautical jewelry lots from Goodwill starting in 2017 and the jewelry was beautiful. The last two lots I received in 2022 junkie with minimal nice pieces of jewelry in them. Very disappointing 😞
@rags16022 жыл бұрын
Have SO missed your jewelry unboxings.
@christierosheim89772 жыл бұрын
I have gone through 2 of their jewelry boxes and won't buy any more. Basically it was just junk and I couldn't put enough together to pay for the box. Nothing of any value, just plastic and broken or worn out things. Now I will say I love some of their other boxes and I have gotten 3 of their handbag boxes and will order more of them. The jewelry ones though are definitely a no go for me. Been burned on those.
@lisasorce22582 жыл бұрын
Hmm…very interesting. I ordered a couple boxes and they for sure aren’t as nice as the box they sent you. It’s a bummer they are trying to bait and switch people….but at least the boxes are fun to sort through.
@joannsmith9 Жыл бұрын
There was as much difference as night and day! Do another under the radar for us, please
@laurieglanz6832 Жыл бұрын
I have recently started reselling and was looking at possibly buying one of these boxes. I'm so glad I found this video because the box they sent you was certainly well stacked with goodies compared to the one you bought. I will not waste my hard earned money on one. Thank you Margaret!
@ginagaysellsjewerly2 жыл бұрын
Hey Margaret! I love that you did a double blind ! ❤️❤️
@jandapandatreasures9632 жыл бұрын
Hi G!!
@ginagaysellsjewerly2 жыл бұрын
@@jandapandatreasures963 Hey Janda ♥️♥️
@MySkywatch22 жыл бұрын
Knock off of Four leaf clover inspired by Alhambra Palace in Granada Spain 8:48 by Arpels and Van Cleef. They have beautiful pieces made with stones and natural materials. Very high end in the thousands.
@karenhopper16912 жыл бұрын
I definitely think the box they sent you was added to! It was a fantastic box. The one you ordered was not too bad. Brighton always sells. Thanks for the jewelry video, its been a minute! 😍❤
@43copacabana2 жыл бұрын
I agree they have to make a good impression so yes in my opinion they do send better boxes to the youtubers!
@joniferris88692 жыл бұрын
The first box was much much better stuff than the second one. The second one is just garage sale low quality stuff, while the first box had really good bracelets in silver that one of them was worth more than what the price. Can't compare the two boxes as you can see that they do not give a person good pieces if you are just the average joe.
@loriswistack46672 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this video. I have just started buying the blue boxes after watching you and a few others. Gotten 4 boxes so far and mostly crap. Maybe 1 or 2 good items but nothing like people show on KZbin. I will not be wasting any more money on them. I have also ordered from goodwill some better things but the better lots are way too expensive for me. I love your channel!
@magpiethriftadventures26602 жыл бұрын
Same …… I stopped like 6 months ago because it was always crap, if I could get through the tangles at all….
@jcastro91235 Жыл бұрын
@@magpiethriftadventures2660 that’s why I’m afraid to buy one cuAse it might just be crap.
@AliBorealis2 жыл бұрын
I ordered one a few weeks ago. There was one tiny pair of sterling earrings and no gold. There was a vintage Vendome bracelet that was in good shape and a beautiful Liz Claiborne necklace. Lots of other unbranded stuff. Decent overall, but nothing like the box they sent you.
@deannecaliforniamusic2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting premise! I think the trend is that many thrift stores want to sell at reseller prices and then be taxed at a charity rates, raking in the cash. I'm not ok with how Goodwill, for one, runs their business model. I'm sticking with smaller, local thrift stores instead. You couldn't even get through the tangles in the box you ordered, and the other one was packed full of rings. I think that says it all. You''ve become one of my favorite chanels for your absolute realness. Thank you!
@kmcneil112 жыл бұрын
Agreed with Goodwill comment. CEO makes 1 million + a year. That’s just so gross to me.
@AR-mu4zq2 жыл бұрын
Local ones do that too now. Its not just goodwill. Everywhere the prices are going up. Here there are ywca and catholic charity thrift stores that spike the prices so high its rediculous.
@katielyb2 жыл бұрын
@@kmcneil11 I thought they fired that guy
@darlamorey4105 Жыл бұрын
I love you! Honesty is always the best policy. Your so knowledgeable!
@staceyfelts6346 Жыл бұрын
I've actually stopped donating to Goodwill I for few years now take my donations to Nonprofit and even Homeless shelters. Due to the in store Price Gouging Goodwill does now. Seriously everything is given for FREE to Help those in serious NEED cloth their family and especially Children and their prices today OMG if they could afford Walmart prices they'd be shopping at Walmart or other retail stores!
@jochildress50032 жыл бұрын
Stretchy rings are wonderful for arthritic women! My late great aunt used to take regular rings she liked and have the ring cut off, then have someone crochet a ring with stretchy metallic thread back in the 1940s and 50s.
@sandyhamilton395011 ай бұрын
I don't understand. Cut off the ring? Why crochet one if you have a ring?
@CarrieLaCubana2 жыл бұрын
You totally got a rigged box. I’ve not seen that many rings and real gold n silver necklaces in a mystery box EVER. I can’t wait to see the 2nd box. Lol
@jenferris68792 жыл бұрын
I've bought 3 of their jewelry boxes and have never found any sterling actually they haven't been the best boxes so I would definitely say they send you tubers good boxes. that says a lot about the company and so disappointed that they are doing this to people ..it's not right
@christhompson42702 жыл бұрын
Interesting video hon, I think they added to the box they sent you, the second one was definitely just chucked in and what a lot of people get when ordering a box. Great way of showing just what you can and cannot get. Don’t think I’d buy one, not for the price they are asking. Take care and thank you for sharing the difference between the two boxes 👍👏❤️
@catherinethompson25252 жыл бұрын
The chain you say your son would want is a Figaro style Very popular style
@randyromines73642 жыл бұрын
2nd Box - dolphins and abalone. I agree absolutely hiddeous! Jewelry selected to share from this one not impressive at all. Have watched quite a few people open boxes from this vendor - usually they are full of cheap bangles and Papparizi on card. I am fussy, I consider most of this cheap jewelry. Still think the "selected" box was "salted".
@dsteinotr2 жыл бұрын
The sapphire and diamond ring looks like it fell into the garbage disposal! They certainly upped your box! No doubt about it!
@BertsmomUK10 ай бұрын
I found a ring in a carpark and it looked just like the one you have, it's rough from a car going over it I would think.
@joanneschell83242 жыл бұрын
Wowwww the box that they sent you was fantastic!!!!
@magpiethriftadventures26602 жыл бұрын
Yes I believe goodwill does, I have bought quite a few of their boxes and it is all junk I stopped about six months ago because it was ridiculous.
@Susan.M.2 жыл бұрын
Sad they are adding to boxes for KZbin....shame on them....but thanks for the comparison ❤️
@bettynuckols8862 жыл бұрын
I think the stacked the box they sent you..There was ALOT of nice pieces to sell
@hchayes94312 жыл бұрын
Love your music choices for your videos. I have watched several different videos on resales and yours are the best. My favorite theme is nautical.
@danaeddins55902 жыл бұрын
The shoe and clothing boxes I’ve gotten from American Thrift Supply have been really good! Lots of new items! I haven’t gotten a jewelry box yet, but it looks like fun 🥰
@lorenamontserratmariscal30052 жыл бұрын
Can you give me the interner page
@umich792 жыл бұрын
So GREAT to see you doing a jewelry unboxing! I have really missed them.
@joaniewaller65042 жыл бұрын
I love your video always very interesting. I appreciate your honesty. This was definitely proof to me what I have suspected after a yr of buying boxes from Goodwill and other sources. Never do I ever get even a single piece of silver or gold or any gems. I must have bought at least 50 boxes last year. All crap every time. I'm done with the boxes.
@vintagecurio6762 жыл бұрын
the chain with long links between a few smaller links is a Figaro, Cuban are over size curb links same size..
@craft-o-matic3992 жыл бұрын
The difference seems pretty significant to me Margaret. The one they sent to you was much nicer in my opinion.
@randyromines73642 жыл бұрын
The big flat herringbone is likely a good quality vermeil, they often are, unless clearly marked as gold. The Italian marked silver necklace is an Omega, usually made as a collar necklace, excellent for pendants. Much to my dismay the jewelry world has embraced calling a hinged bangle a "clamper" which sounds like an unmentionable disease and you would not stroll into Tiffany's and ask to see their "clampers". The silver "woven" bracelet is called "Riccio", an Italian made usually, QVC used to sell them in the 90's. They often were tri-color with yellow and rose gold vermeil. Wow 2 Riccio's! The finish on the backside can tell you a lot - when there is rippled or a pebbled surface it is likely not sterling. That single earring does not appear to have amber in it, looks more like a reddish agate. The surprise ring looks like Sapphires, yea for the diamonds. This box for $60 , not seeing the rest, was worth it - however its the one they "selected" to be sent to you for review so no way do I think any other person would end up with as much good stuff.
@prosperousutensil81782 жыл бұрын
LOL thanks for the great info!
@dianekelly64042 жыл бұрын
FYi the MCM Pink Polka Dot Lucite Bangle is called an Aspirin Lucite Bangle and sells around $50 or more!!
@operamom66392 жыл бұрын
The polka dot bangle is also called a Gumdrop Bangle. It's more recently made not mid century, however it's desirable to many! Goodluck!
@redesign-hunter28532 жыл бұрын
OMG! I thought my computer was going out! so glad you said it was a weed wacker!!! ha ha
@zool52422 жыл бұрын
I just let ats have it. I got 10lbs of bottom of the barrel,dirty,crap of which 90% went to the trash! Every you tube video has gotten decent stuff. I let them know us non you tubers who are just trying to find personal treasures to keep didn't appreciate our budgeted money being blown like that! Theres fair, then theres being taken advantage of. I'll never buy from them again.
@robynfox4782 жыл бұрын
Hi Margaret! I enjoyed your video, good to see you going back to your roots. Jewellery sorting is always fun, thanks for taking me along for the ride. Greetings from Australia!
@katherinebenner37152 жыл бұрын
I have ordered a box from American Thrift Supply. I received quite a lot of silver, including a ruby and diamond ring. I also revived Brighton and many branded necklaces. I don’t do KZbin just online sales. I want to do videos but haven’t got there yet.
@whoCANyouTRUST20102 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great box. Which kind of proves others wrong about them stacking KZbinrs boxes. Personally, I think it’s just the luck of the draw so to speak. It is after all, mystery boxes.
@michaeldougher35472 жыл бұрын
Not to be picky but I feel like you played down the first box... It was worth $2000.00 plus easy. Hahaaha I'm happy for you.
@Wingsoflovetreasures2 жыл бұрын
Got my boxes, did a video on my channel on half of it so far, finishing it up on Sunday. I think it's great, the price is cheaper and even got some sterling. Thank you so much for doing this video. I was very happy with the box I received. Take care, Tammy ❣️ 🦋 🥰
@edgecitytraders54982 жыл бұрын
9:06 Is quatrefoil the word you were looking for? Is the center stone glass or possibly onyx or jet? The chain and pendant look Italian to me, so I am thinking the stone could be jet.
@tammywhalen32972 жыл бұрын
I so love the sapphire ring i hope you keep it for yourself i was like salivating over it lol..and i do think they boosted the box also the leather bracelet with the gold color bar across needs be looked at again i saw writing on the side of the bar it looked like and i think could be a really good piece.
@anncarmichael12672 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a jewellery unboxing again some nice items
@darleneanderson63102 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have missed your jewelry unboxings, so I was thrilled to watch this. Actually watched twice. And decided to try a box myself. I have done good will blue box in the past but not always fast enough or just busy doing other things that I forget what time it is. Lol Hoping I find things I love in the box I just ordered with your code!. PS I had in the past always looked forward to your what sold videos would love to see more of those again!!!
@heididepotter81362 жыл бұрын
That s one giant bagg!!! I love a nice flatlying necklace Love the Boho pendant You found gold! gorgeous necklace. I prefer an adjustable or stretchy ring. I have rheumatism. Love that copper clamper Matice and Renoir are painters. That seahorse pendant is so cute I love brooches!!!! A stunning lion Another bagg!!! What a tangle You resellers are so patient Beautyfull colorfull necklace. Very Mexzoti.. necklace, I love that style. Thank you for sharing
@jobieguzman17012 жыл бұрын
I’ve missed your jewelry videos! This one was great!
@susank24632 жыл бұрын
So glad to have found your channel. Such interesting content and a relatable hostess.
@sarahisme7072 жыл бұрын
Yay for a jewelry haul video!
@gracewhite6262 жыл бұрын
Matisse Renoir specialized in copper and copper with enamel. Found the exact same bracelet (except blue enamel instead of red) asking price $75.
@kathyscraftyroom48772 жыл бұрын
Well I ordered a box after watching your video. It came in today and oh it was terrible. Even worse then your second box. Just wanted to warn people not to order from this place. Thought you should know. Kathy
@donnarobson6102 жыл бұрын
Your first box is definitely better than my first one. No silver or gold. I’m hoping my second one is better but they were mailed together. So we shall see. Nice video and box.
@anitahaviland30362 жыл бұрын
Milor brings a high price for his bracelets! They are quite recognizable. Very unusual linkage!
@thriftyhokie40292 жыл бұрын
I ordered back at the beginning of June I think…waste of money for me…nothing but plastic junk brackets - 4 big chunky wood necklaces with material tassels, no rings but lots of bits and pieces. I honestly thought that my bag must have been the “junk bag” they set up to capture all the, well..junk pieces. Any decent looking piece had extensive wear on it…I was literally sick in my stomach watching you unbox both of your boxes… I swore I’d never buy again but after reading some other comments here and in other threads I might give them a second chance…it’s just a lot of money to spend and then throw in the trash.
@vintagecurio6762 жыл бұрын
Same here, order one in may and was mostly DIY not wearable, only 1 small sterling piece..
@23fd222 жыл бұрын
the necklace you call cuban is a figaro link chain.
@TexasGalTreasures2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@katielyb2 жыл бұрын
I've just started your video but I already want to thank you for going out of your way to provide us all with some transparency. Especially how you're likely sacrificing any additional boxes for review from this thrift store. Still, if they didn't do anything sketchy, they have nothing to worry about. I'm excited to see how this pans out. First impression, the first box looks like way more than 10lbs but who knows.
@margaritagonzales65562 жыл бұрын
I like Lucky & Plunder brand. Loved the Pandora love bracelet! And my birthstone Sapphire ring was amazing!
@dianekelly64042 жыл бұрын
Those wire wrapped stone necklace is from the 1960s and sells for a lot more than you would expect!!
@PastLifePickins2 жыл бұрын
Glad you did this!!! Doing another under the radar..sounds like a good idea. I havnt tried them yet.
@pollykorzekwa9469 Жыл бұрын
great video, thx, Margaret! (another Texas gal)
@shadyny2 жыл бұрын
The first box was great...Hello GOLD!!! This was a great video. Loved the comparing the 2 boxes. You rock as always!!! Thanks!!!
@catherinethompson25252 жыл бұрын
Is so true about the stretch rings because some people have larger knuckles and the Can still wear rings like you said that are pretty in the front
@Openhousetexas Жыл бұрын
The necklace design looks like Van Cleef and Arpel style ..pretty
@23fd222 жыл бұрын
the flat snake like necklace is a herringbone style chain (I am not a 100% sure though)
@TexasGalTreasures2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@craft-o-matic3992 жыл бұрын
@@TexasGalTreasures I was thinking those flat chains are called Omega, but I could be wrong.
@tiffanysepiphanies2 жыл бұрын
A lot of the bracelets from the box they sent you are really pretty 😊 Especially the gold tone tennis bracelet and the mother of pearl and abalone inlay bracelets.
@tonyacoffelt25792 жыл бұрын
I have bought 3 boxes of jewelry and been happy with all 3
@lindaharter60912 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine them sending anything good. A way to get people to buy from them.
@whatanitemare2 жыл бұрын
The art deco style pendant that's unmarked but magnetic?? It may be set with hematite, which is magnetic in itself. Hope you tested it. - With regards to the value of the box they sent you compared to the one you ordered anonymously? I DON"T believe in coincidence.
@amethyst111112 жыл бұрын
The "I Love You" charm is authentic Pandora; I've got the same one
@humoristhenewblack2 жыл бұрын
I was a buyer if it said “tacos”.
@inittoflipit20522 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, thanks for taking the time to do it this way. I agree, the box they sent to you, with your name, was A LOT better, but this still looks like a pretty good deal, depending on the shipping cost. I'll give it a try with your code. Thanks again.
@sabrinautzeri79252 жыл бұрын
Hi,looks like the bracelet with the cross beads have an maltezer cross.I recently sold a necklace with that kind of cross pendant.
@prosperousutensil81782 жыл бұрын
I was excited to see this sorting video and went looking for the higher resolution version of the video and could not find one under the gear icon on the YT UI. I recommend in the future for close work videos like this one make the resolution on your recording device higher. I put this on full screen on my 27 inch monitor to get a good look and it was not as easy to see as I would like. I came to learn at the elbow of the master so I was dissappointed in the video quality :(. Alas, part of it may my aging eyeballs 😵💫 but none of my glasses helped). Margaret you look beautiful today. Yes we are Tennesseans!
@lilred94832 жыл бұрын
I have seen a few of these videos and it has mostly been junk! Glad they gave you a good one.
@MaleneMaare2 жыл бұрын
That ring at min: 23:15 is absolutely wonderful. Very 80'/ Memphis/Art deco-style. I had to look in your store, but I think it's gone 😢
@PreppingAngel2 жыл бұрын
I see some Paparazzi 5.00 jewelry there. The stretchy band rings are their usual style.
@TheDailyDigestion Жыл бұрын
I have bought good will blue boxes with gold and silver , and then I have gotten them with complete garbage jewelry , and then I have gotten them with a lot of named brand necklaces , it really is hard to tell until you get more boxes
@hunterjessica24482 жыл бұрын
I noticed Goodwill Bluebox does the same! Sends you better boxes
@Timetraveler1111MN2 жыл бұрын
12:06 pink green cit necklace is pretty, many pinups like that.
@shepherdofmysoul62 жыл бұрын
1st box was definitely a lot better, necklaces not too desirable....I could never trust lot boxes from resellers, as they know exactly what they have.
@jeanbraun44052 жыл бұрын
I'm always skeptical of those 'mystery boxes'. How much of it is paparazzi toxic metal junk, or plasticky cheesy broken garbage . Thank you for validating my opinion.
@charleneglatkowski68042 жыл бұрын
Maybe the sapphire diamond ring with the "texturized" band was resized.
@charleneglatkowski68042 жыл бұрын
PS it's been a long time since I've watched a jewelry unboxing. It was fun! Thanks!! 🙂🌸💎
@carynjones77082 жыл бұрын
The blingy black and faux pearl earrings (53.21) are JBK by Camrose and Kross
@riverpandax Жыл бұрын
I bought two boxes. I received two very trashed ripped up open boxes. What was in it was mostly bangles that you get like 10 for a dollar. I have bought many boxes from goodwill. I have never received gold or silver I have gotten alot of trash
@OMizMia10 ай бұрын
LOL they've got their special & fancy white boxes for the reason you suspected M. Kind of funny to envision their shipping out shelf >> brown, brown, brown, white, brown, brown, brown, brown, brown, brown, etc. 🤣🤣🤣 I wonder who gets the gold boxes?
@kristinamiller83692 жыл бұрын
Great unboxing video. Thank you
@ShannonMoody2 жыл бұрын
Yep!! That's definitely pandora!! Great finds in the review box! I'd buy it in a heart beat
@amberquibodeaux67174 ай бұрын
The clover is iconic Van Cleef and Arpel. It's a higher end brand and they mostly sell clover shaped jewelry
@lorrieklaserner31762 жыл бұрын
I may be interested in your eagle pendant what you called an owl that is sterling.
@hchayes94312 жыл бұрын
I just got onto Goodwill auction and ThreadUp yesterday. Goodwill is selling mystery boxes of jewelry for $100.00 and up $$$$$! And ThreadUp didn't have any to sell.
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@blancavr110 ай бұрын
Its funny how you say just what I'm thinking 😂
@stateofdisorder12 жыл бұрын
Do you still have the wire wrapped stone necklace at the 1:14:42 mark? It reminds me of the exact one I had as a kid. I checked your Etsy and eBay but didn’t see it.
@TexasGalTreasures2 жыл бұрын
I don’t
@bohobritt85452 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your review! And appreciate your transparency! The other unboxings that I've seen of the ATS have been pretty ho-hum, borderline blah.
@donnamartin11822 жыл бұрын
Yes, UTs get the best stuff the rest of us get JUNK.
@peggymazzarella23672 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for all of your work on it
@morphamorpha61942 жыл бұрын
I think I bought some of those rings in your WhatNot auction today! I am interested in the lucite pill bracelet, if you still have it. I love the absolutely hideous statement necklace, not so much to wear, but its a crunchy Boho artisanal aesthetic that I love to sell.
@rachelblake71542 жыл бұрын
Maybe if we order using your discount code they will sweeten the box😉🤣🤣🤣🤣. The first box was better by far.
@jochildress50032 жыл бұрын
Matisse Renoir is an excellent Midcentury brand!
@alicecarvo63982 жыл бұрын
I bought one of their jewelry boxes a few months ago when Zombie Bargain Hunter did a plush unboxing & said the 1st order was 15% off. I ordered one of the plush bales and one jewelry lot. I was pleased with the jewelry. I'm sure I will make money when I get around to listing it. I think there were only a couple of pieces of marked silver though, I haven't taken the time to test them yet. Now that you have a code, I may get another box 😉
@jcastro912352 жыл бұрын
Me too I have always been tempted to do so too
@jenferris68792 жыл бұрын
Got a box today and their was a ton of plastic and kids jewelry ..and only 2 signed peices ...Ive bought 4 boxes total and never had any sterling or much of anything good
@LcJohnson79629 ай бұрын
Well thanks to you and your demonstration of how to know jewelry is real silver or gold. I do have a small magnet and I tested my 50th anniversary ring which I personally helped pick out. It’s a wide gold band. Labeled 14k gold. I took my ring off and the magnet grabbed it 😢 I’m so upset. It was 12 years ago and bought it from JC Penny jewelers counter. I wish I’d known what you taught me then.
@lindaharter60912 жыл бұрын
Why is it I'm reading all these disappointed people that has ordered and nothing is good. Can you send back free of charge and get your money back for sending junk to your customers.