Textbook vs Real-life Japanese #1 ですから・ますから

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[@GregLeGrillepain]

The Game Theory reference was on point, you truly are a cultured man.

[@davidmella1174]

This channel and kaname Naito's channel are very good for these things about "real" japanese. Thanks.

[@FirstLast-uj9ud]

Quoted from _Japanese: The Spoken Language_ : "While no de and kara are structurally very different, they are similar in meaning. In /X kara, Y/, we are stating that _from_ the occurrence of X comes Y; in /X no de, Y/, we acknowledge the existence of X as a given, and that being the case, Y occurs. Obviously these meanings are close, but the use of kara often implies more interest in what precedes, while the use of no de emphasizes what follows." This difference in emphasis might be why kara comes across as more "defensive"?

[@RiccardoGabarriniKazeatari]

Node comes from no desu, so it's a way to make a premise, usually as an explanation for something that will follow. On the other hand kara gives a reason, so it should be used when the reason is the point you want to get across. Like when the other person already knows what you did and you want to explain why. So should you use it when you explain why you were late? Like when you say "because the train was late"...? Here the culture plays its role. You don't want to say it was because of the train, like you're blaming the train and not taking responsibilities, it's better to use node to explain what happened, as a premise, and then close with the important part, which is you're sorry about being late. Hope it helps

[@tidus37]

💡when I speak to my partner and I explain a reasoning I use 「から」 a LOT but now I know I need to knock it off and use んで instead! I didn’t realize that to a degree I was sounding defensive. This is great to know!

[@Ar8it3r]

このビデオはナイスタイミングだ！昨夜は姉妹配信見てたんだね！彼女たちはいつも「だから，んで』を使ってた

[@soyosugawara2658]

Awesome lesson to learn.

[@TheBombayMasterTony]

That's a good explanation.

[@AbeyantHero]

the nod to MatPat and Game Theory reached my Japanese learning channels, ahhh it's full circle now

[@OfficialIvy2006]

I was looking forward to this days ago, trying to convert Textbook Japanese into Real-life. Unfortunately, I didn't know how people list what they have in Japanese. I mistake someone uses another method or uses と like in textbooks, along with amount of each listed thing.

[@nicbentulan]

1 - anyone else watch yuta only for anime? 2 - Great series of how anime characters speak Japanese. Please do Itsuki Nakano from the quintessential quintuplets or any or all the 7 main characters in TQQ. How they speak Japanese I believe is very important to understanding the plot eg the honorifics, the lost in translation stuff (eg when they say things like zurui, hatsukoi, uso, tachi, fukuzatsu Vs taihen, mote etc that are removed from the dub). I compiled a lot of the lost in translation stuff in r/gotoubun Something to consider about Itsuki: The Quintessential Quintuplets' character types are: Ichika - Onee-san / ara ara, Nino - tsundere, miku - kuudere / dandere, Yotsuba - genki Itsuki - ?? - Tsundere like Nino? - Eat-suki? - Imouto? - Someone who speaks keigo to their siblings, to Fuutarou and to Raiha and to everyone basically? Actually, the main thing I learned from Yuta's videos that keigo is basically just desu, masu & their variations. I swear when I learned elementary Japanese in bachelor's (foreign language classes are required in universities in the Philippines) we were never even taught the word keigo. All this time I had no idea Itsuki was the only quint and actually only main character who was talking keigo to EVERYONE. Anyway, I have a theory as to what Itsuki's type is, but you're not gonna like it... For more japanese stuff re TQQ, see: ubmu3x

[@richardsamueljordan1569]

Japan is cool but anime is actually kinda cringe of you ask me. Its kind of unfortunate that Anime overshadows so many other cultural aspects of Japan that is way better and deeper than dumb drawings and the neck beards that watch it. Including Japanese Otakus.

[@nicbentulan]

@@richardsamueljordan1569 ok thanks for your honesty. I'm just curious like who's here for anime (or jpop Japanese TV series or movies etc)? Vs who's here for other stuff? Ok 1 country different interests. What makes you interested in learning Japanese language?

[@DavidCruickshank]

@@richardsamueljordan1569 It's cringe to assume that Anime is just "dump drawings" that only "neck beard's" watch. Also you are not a more 'cultured' person just because you don't like Anime and instead prefer the "deeper cultural aspects" of Japan.

[@richardsamueljordan1569]

@@DavidCruickshank yeah it should be celebrated when someone sits in there room jacking off to picture and nevernever showering. Good job. Its also a problem I Japan by the way. Anime is the destruction of Japanese culture

[@qrsx66]

And don't use too much mascara too.

[@ThatJapaneseManYuta]

Apply it just enough

[@flarklooney]

そのローマジギャグはこのオヤジギャグになります。

[@army_dreamer_8088]

We get it

[@jeffendaya5853]

There is a Japanese Hiragana words "いや" (Iya) can means "No". But, there is a Ainu language with Katakana words "ナイ" (nai) means "river" or "stream".

[@ChiedozieOnwe]

what's the difference between お通して and お通じで

[@ArgyaEsa]

👍

[@malfruemulo]

I don’t get it, Genki absolutely teaches ので and から without ます/です, are you saying they don’t?

[@ThatJapaneseManYuta]

That's NOT what I'm saying. This is not black and white. It's not whether teach them them at some point or not at all. It's HOW them introduce these expressions. Just as I emphasised "OVERusing" in the beginning of the video, I'm not saying they don't teach you ので・から or they don't use them at all (because they do). What I'm saying you they often start with less common ones and then move on to more common ones. Textbooks "eventually" teach you ので・から but the order is reversed in terms of frequency. So when people start learning Japanese, they are exposed to less common expressions which they practice them over and over again. Early input tends to stick. So it's common to hear non-native speakers over use them even at an advanced level, which by the way, isn't unnecessarily a bad thing (it's just non-native-like but depending on your preference, it's not necessarily a bad thing.) Also, more people read the first chapters of textbooks and later chapters. A lot of they consume early chapiters enthusiastically so the first chape I have tons of examples of intermediate/advanced native speakers speaking Japanese and overusing ですから・ますから is a fairly common trait, and you can trace this back to the overrepresentations of their early input.

[@jeffendaya5853]

No, Japanese Hiragana and Ainu Katakana language, there are exact different languages words. However there are mixed language words to misunderstanding words because let me analyze word sentences to clarify to clearly understand to situation.

[@0ptriX]

Is this guy a bot

[@jeffendaya5853]

But, I have very careful about censored words sentence, In since during World war 2 with Japanese empire to follow words to disrespectful of rude words feels like "killing people and bullying". I don't care rude words about it anymore with Japanese. In real life Japanese because I dreamed of respecting your people. All of other's friends, family, company, government and relaxed words to clearly understand to the situation.

[@DavidCruickshank]

Dude fell off.

[@tabby7189]

"I know a lot about native Japanese because I" ❓grew up in Japan ❓speak Japanese as my mother tongue and L1 ✅spent hundreds or thousands of hours studying it using academic techniques

[@Starstreak170]

Meh, you still will never hold a candle to a native speaker.

[@N0Lif3]

All of your videos have been exactly the same for a while now and I'm tired of you just saying the same "real life Japanese vs textbook Japanese" statements over and over. I'm unsubbing.

[@plaidratz]

I’m assuming he might be following what in the algorithm works for him

[@ThatJapaneseManYuta]

Do you guys watch both shorts and long-form videos? I've been doing that with shorts for a while but not with long-form videos. I was under the assumption that shorts viewers and long-form video viewers don't overlap a lot, but maybe I'm wrong.

[@padmeasmr]

I find it It extremely useful tbh

[@JB_idk]

Good for you but nobody cares, bye bye.

[@BL-ob9fn]

@@ThatJapaneseManYuta Had no idea that you've been making shorts. I avoid them like the plague.

[@jeffendaya5853]

In real life Japanese to anime interested characters to explain Fujiwara you've been warned in japanese not to use "Classic literature". For example: In real life japanese anime reaction just like said "Un, un, un, pera, pera." In English said "Yes, yes, yes, blah, blah." 😅😅 the words are repeated over and over again. She's like a destructive communication, psychiatrist, figurative language and neurodivergent or ADHD because you're talking to yourself. Hey! don't be that in japanese.🫢🫢🫢🫢