[TF2] Tf2bers getting trickstabbed :o

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@farabashar1627
@farabashar1627 9 ай бұрын
This is stupid
@dafunnimemeguy
@dafunnimemeguy 9 ай бұрын
No u :(
@rainwobrain
@rainwobrain 4 ай бұрын
I'm stupid
@ImNotACreativePerson-0_0
@ImNotACreativePerson-0_0 4 ай бұрын
@@rainwobrainSuper false!
@rainwobrain
@rainwobrain 4 ай бұрын
@@ImNotACreativePerson-0_0 aw tysm!
@apersonofintel
@apersonofintel 4 ай бұрын
pin of shame!!!
@elmaxoTF2
@elmaxoTF2 10 ай бұрын
i got so fucking cooked by that spy, it was gonna be the intro to my next clip dump
@exoticbutters98374
@exoticbutters98374 10 ай бұрын
wdym “was”
@razberytv
@razberytv 10 ай бұрын
​@@exoticbutters98374 ?
@slippedupngotslidon5530
@slippedupngotslidon5530 10 ай бұрын
@@exoticbutters98374he respects the hustle💪
@purrpixelvevo
@purrpixelvevo 10 ай бұрын
based
@rehab_herr
@rehab_herr 8 ай бұрын
in your next faked vid
@susnus
@susnus 10 ай бұрын
I GET it now. Trickstabbing is like a rhythm game. They don’t want to see your back, they want for you to turn away because they have a feel for how long it’ll take for the back box to come to them. They don’t visually see the backstab they feel it and time the click.
@nikojnishto
@nikojnishto 10 ай бұрын
yea this is exactly how it is, i play with the backstab animation turned off sometimes and theres basically no difference in how i do
@werstnameDX
@werstnameDX 10 ай бұрын
Yes, often times you dont need to see the player even turn at all, the game registers their movement before the player model actually animates turning left or right. With this, eventually landing stabs becomes much more of a "feel" or prediction thing.
@kapiieek
@kapiieek 10 ай бұрын
now you can achieve made in heaven
@supertrollfaxnoprinter3329
@supertrollfaxnoprinter3329 8 ай бұрын
Yea no shit buddy. God you're dumb.
@trunguss
@trunguss 5 ай бұрын
Is this why spy mains and weebs are synonymous?
@fumoaddict3526
@fumoaddict3526 10 ай бұрын
the jerma one was kind of shameful, like the most obvious trickstab setup from 10 miles away with 5 years to react to what was coming, and the spy clearly wasn't going anywhere and he still got stabbed
@ammi5311
@ammi5311 10 ай бұрын
That's pretty much time he's away from this game tho
@ZA-zs7rc
@ZA-zs7rc 9 ай бұрын
keep in mind he hasnt played in almost 10 years lol
@eze1196
@eze1196 Ай бұрын
Yea but can You do a trickstab to a women irl?
@AnnoyD
@AnnoyD 10 ай бұрын
Fatmagic really took the stabs well. He's also the one dealing the good trick stabs. Truly one of the Canadians ever.
@DimZoltan
@DimZoltan 3 ай бұрын
No, it was this guy www.youtube.com/@GeneralAlias
@-RandomStranger-
@-RandomStranger- 10 ай бұрын
8:34 it was, indeed, a good trickstab
@demoman5864
@demoman5864 10 ай бұрын
ive never seen someone eat their words so fast lmao
@tappajaav
@tappajaav 10 ай бұрын
@@demoman5864 No no that was just congratulation in advance, so the inevitable ragequit wouldn't get in way of good manners
@demoman5864
@demoman5864 5 ай бұрын
@@tappajaavFSOAS is a time-traveller?!
@MOOtf2
@MOOtf2 8 ай бұрын
Did not expect someone to pull that clip of me trickstabbing stabbystabby from like 7 years ago, that's digging deep 8)
@Krcun774
@Krcun774 10 ай бұрын
10:30 Spy bots are evolving
@Randomusername292
@Randomusername292 9 ай бұрын
They are scary
@DoucheBagDave.
@DoucheBagDave. 10 ай бұрын
50% of these stabs are trickstabs, the other 50% is just a horrible tragedy of face stabs
@demoman5864
@demoman5864 10 ай бұрын
probably 90% were trickstabs, its just delay makes it look like facestabs.
@tetonis2452
@tetonis2452 10 ай бұрын
No they just have high ping so you are seeing a delayed version of what is actually happening
@Goodbye_Eri
@Goodbye_Eri 10 ай бұрын
​@@demoman5864 literally this
@DoucheBagDave.
@DoucheBagDave. 10 ай бұрын
@@demoman5864idk man, that’s some serious delay if that’s the case
@Jmiriiiii
@Jmiriiiii 9 ай бұрын
@@DoucheBagDave. im no spy main but im pretty sure that the fact a good chunk of trickstabs are literally frame perfect and that sometimes stabs are available before the spy even sees the back the spy more kinda predicts whehn the back shows i assume.
@GeneralAlias
@GeneralAlias 10 ай бұрын
7:43 Great photoshop, that was my twin brother playing who was also blindfolded and using a controller, definitely not me.
@exoticbutters98374
@exoticbutters98374 10 ай бұрын
Only AdmiralMoniker would get trickstabbed
@Tenjitty
@Tenjitty 10 ай бұрын
genneraaalaAALalalalal
@dombelly3343
@dombelly3343 4 ай бұрын
​@@exoticbutters98374 Him or All-aroundIdentity?
@TuMadre8000
@TuMadre8000 10 ай бұрын
ah yes, my favorite tf2 youtuber, vinny vinesauce pizza pasta
@eyehhh
@eyehhh 10 ай бұрын
7:52 man this new SORA thing goes so crazy, it's almost as if I really got trickstabbed
@amediumhorse
@amediumhorse 9 ай бұрын
I love how most of the spy mains are chill with it and even proud of them because they do it on a regular basis as well XD
@Lonqudor
@Lonqudor 9 ай бұрын
I’m so glad I’m completely and utterly immune to trickstabs
@guapsandwich113
@guapsandwich113 3 ай бұрын
I’m gonna touch u
@HawnselTF
@HawnselTF 10 ай бұрын
0:20 Hey that's me!! Poor Jerma :(
@KlassicLoL
@KlassicLoL 10 ай бұрын
I want to join this club but I am simply too good to get backstabbed 😤🗣️
@deathbringer9893
@deathbringer9893 10 ай бұрын
doubt
@kubsons0732
@kubsons0732 10 ай бұрын
You make memes for greasy redditors chill bro
@maximilianoferrer6841
@maximilianoferrer6841 9 ай бұрын
@@kubsons0732You sound upset
@dombelly3343
@dombelly3343 4 ай бұрын
​@kubsons0732 damn bro what did klassic do to you?
@Lewandobski
@Lewandobski 10 ай бұрын
Crazy how so many of these people get upset by getting genuinely outplayed
@tetonis2452
@tetonis2452 10 ай бұрын
They dont understand the concept of networking
@FFFr3sHHH
@FFFr3sHHH 10 ай бұрын
"boo hoo that was a face stab spy mains are scum, only other classes require skill 😭"
@DaniZeAlmighty
@DaniZeAlmighty 10 ай бұрын
​@@FFFr3sHHHi always hear those words from medic and soldier mains which are the much more unskilled classes
@Lewandobski
@Lewandobski 9 ай бұрын
@@DaniZeAlmighty I don't think any classes are "less" or "more" skilled, the entry level may be easier or harder, but the reality is that every class has a huge skill ceiling. In their own hubris people can't seem to accept when limitations are breached, and dumb things down to "I'M GONNA WIGGLE MY MOUSE, TRICKSTAB!". It's especially upsetting when you see good players get trickstabbed, get frustrated and procede to talk about how shit the game is.
@FFFr3sHHH
@FFFr3sHHH 9 ай бұрын
@@Lewandobski yep. Even pyro is a skilled class when you play him for long enough ( combo pyro ). Also I especially love when people just blame spy as a whole, for example "the kunai is such an annoying weapon and anyone who mains it should be ashamed" and their reasoning is "when my teammates are bad and have no game sense spies can use the kunai to farm kills" like... Maybe don't blame the kunai if it's literally your teams fucking fault? And if your team is that horrible to just get farmed then it wouldnt be any different for any other weapon. Saw a whole reply section saying this last week and it was so dissapointing
@slushietv_
@slushietv_ 10 ай бұрын
Watching how the people react in this video really shows that a lot of TF2 players dont know how to dance with spies whatsoever and it hurts to witness 😭
@naansoos798
@naansoos798 4 ай бұрын
How to dance with spies : 1. Have a jar of piss 2. Carry anything flammable 3. Stay 2 foot away from them like you usually do with every stinky frenchman
@TF2Kraze
@TF2Kraze 9 ай бұрын
you got to appreciate the time it probably took to compile all these into this vid, very good and enjoyable watch, jolly well done lad
@tappajaav
@tappajaav 10 ай бұрын
I like how Octo eventually turns facecam off because he can't take it anymore
@SPIRE_FAN
@SPIRE_FAN 10 ай бұрын
The rage is so funny. I appreciate the rare humble players here, complimenting the technical and pvp skills.
@jayric3060
@jayric3060 9 ай бұрын
bro went deep for some of these
@dytf2
@dytf2 10 ай бұрын
5:52 owned.
@tf2_only
@tf2_only 7 ай бұрын
Rolled and smoked
@SoldierMan755
@SoldierMan755 7 ай бұрын
Warms my heart to see WAMO and Venusian getting trickstabbed. I wish I could've seen more.
@timetraveler7
@timetraveler7 4 ай бұрын
That venusian guy is a real piece of work, it's nice to see him so easily tilted
@plushiepenguin
@plushiepenguin 4 ай бұрын
​@@timetraveler7I've never seen that POS not be tilted.
@timetraveler7
@timetraveler7 4 ай бұрын
@@plushiepenguin good, it's nice to know he's miserable
@Starlit_Juno
@Starlit_Juno 3 ай бұрын
everytime you trickstab klown, one valuable item disappears from your inventory
@exoticbutters98374
@exoticbutters98374 10 ай бұрын
Where is vorobey I thought he got trickstabbed by a cheater before
@somefries3101
@somefries3101 10 ай бұрын
cheaters don't deserve spotlight
@ammi5311
@ammi5311 10 ай бұрын
The real fun one is he's cameo in CRD's famous circle strafe bible (ep4? I think? As quick demo under high tower)
@faaeizkhan6134
@faaeizkhan6134 10 ай бұрын
getting trickstabbed by a cheater, was prob him using backtrack cheats where you can stab from the front
@Snezzyboi
@Snezzyboi 10 ай бұрын
Cheats aren't real players movements so vorobey hasn't ever really gotten trickstabbed
@colatf2
@colatf2 10 ай бұрын
@@Snezzyboieveryone has been trickstabbed before if you have as many hours as vorobey or b4nny or habib
@demongamer_IX
@demongamer_IX 5 ай бұрын
4:28 That pyro was not happy about that stair stab.
@emailyolo
@emailyolo 5 ай бұрын
That's VenusianRapper
@-RandomStranger-
@-RandomStranger- 4 ай бұрын
Sure hope that pyro isn't a bad person irl or something 😊
@EemeliKarjalainen
@EemeliKarjalainen 4 ай бұрын
Tf2Klown vs VenusianRapper
@HảiĐỗ-n9p
@HảiĐỗ-n9p 10 ай бұрын
b4nny the best tf2 player still gets trickstab by pub spy🤣classic casual tf2😅😂🤪
@jojobizadTRASH
@jojobizadTRASH 6 ай бұрын
That habib one is so funny because he just goes back to the topic after a second of processing the stab.
@citrusthepenguin
@citrusthepenguin 9 ай бұрын
It's only a matter of time before I end up in one of these.
@jacobjacklol
@jacobjacklol 9 ай бұрын
This must have taken a long time. Well done.
@alexdupree5573
@alexdupree5573 4 ай бұрын
getting trickstabbed by a mvm bot is diabolical
@quesadibro1245
@quesadibro1245 8 ай бұрын
love how flabbergasted jerma is as if he dosent know what a trickstab is
@Portal2Player
@Portal2Player 9 ай бұрын
the best way to not get trickstabbed while playing heavy is to just keep looking strait
@purrcat6930
@purrcat6930 9 ай бұрын
It is funny how ven rapper calls other people cheating
@timetraveler7
@timetraveler7 4 ай бұрын
I don't remember, but wasn't that guy outed as a PDF file? Or am I misremembering? I thought I heard something about that.
@purrcat6930
@purrcat6930 4 ай бұрын
@@timetraveler7 yes and he was beating his ex girlfriend and had both his accounts banned so good riddance
@timetraveler7
@timetraveler7 4 ай бұрын
@@purrcat6930 oh wow, so he's like, really bad..
@twobser
@twobser 10 ай бұрын
pretty epic although 5:32 was not me. that was lenny
@YaGirlZero
@YaGirlZero 7 ай бұрын
trickstabbing megascatter, dangerous game
@bobfilm-c9r
@bobfilm-c9r 19 күн бұрын
8:34 feels so cathartic
@leafofyume
@leafofyume 3 ай бұрын
they have 1 thing in common. before the death cam even zoomed onto the spy, he was already behind someone else
@marksokolov529
@marksokolov529 11 күн бұрын
The ultimate trickstabb compilation, truly
@delta7380
@delta7380 5 ай бұрын
10:27 HE SAID IT!!
@alvin2407
@alvin2407 7 ай бұрын
you can really tell alot about a persons character by their reaction to a good trickstab
@TaigaTF2
@TaigaTF2 10 ай бұрын
no williams in this vid... shame.. could have bumped video length by another third.
@scumknight6074
@scumknight6074 10 ай бұрын
Why are you obsessed with a 38 yr old who averages 11 views?
@TaigaTF2
@TaigaTF2 10 ай бұрын
he is married bro u don't gotta slobber on it@@scumknight6074
@dombelly3343
@dombelly3343 4 ай бұрын
You can only ever tell who someone truly is when they're getting owned by a spy
@ammi5311
@ammi5311 10 ай бұрын
Much as fatmagic won't just dump all the more frustrating ones , he does keep those happen ones during he's video as they both promised more so than voro
@aqsdfghjkl
@aqsdfghjkl 10 ай бұрын
mute got sketchek
@DanTheMan4176
@DanTheMan4176 3 ай бұрын
Lazypurple is such a nice genuine dude
@TheHENOOB
@TheHENOOB 10 ай бұрын
that's great to watch, knowing Spy is a hard class to master.
@trololo152
@trololo152 5 ай бұрын
Getting trickstabbed is just such a classic tf2 feeling
@Froggo_kek
@Froggo_kek 9 ай бұрын
1:22 hahaha nah thats bullshit ☠☠☠☠
@veryheavyalan
@veryheavyalan 9 ай бұрын
I recognize you, you were in that Pokemon trading server a while ago, cool to see you have a channel here.
@mirai2967
@mirai2967 9 ай бұрын
Sketchek is alive? I must be dreaming
@Siletohr
@Siletohr 6 ай бұрын
swipez pulling a 17 - 6 on THIS guy just proves he is really at the top of the spy chain
@empty4352
@empty4352 10 ай бұрын
This video is so specific like.. getting backstabbed/trickstabbed is just so specific.
@tappajaav
@tappajaav 10 ай бұрын
Not really. Backstabbing is spy's #1 used tool. It's like saying killing streamers with meatshots or rocket blast damage is so specific.
@ZA-zs7rc
@ZA-zs7rc 9 ай бұрын
trickstab vids especially against streamers/ytbers r super popular and easy content tho
@MonsterPunishers
@MonsterPunishers 3 ай бұрын
i love how fatmagic just got facestab
@itsKyee1
@itsKyee1 7 ай бұрын
WHAT i was not expecting to see ToastyJakey in here
@eze1196
@eze1196 Ай бұрын
3:12 from what i understand here, he dodged the shots of the scout making him turn his back a little and letting him do a sidestab to him, anyways still unfair
@urielbassigarcia7706
@urielbassigarcia7706 10 ай бұрын
Going melee vs any spy is the stupid thing a tf2tuber can do onlive
@liltnarg5017
@liltnarg5017 4 ай бұрын
As a spy main i always think "Damn nice stab" whenever I get trickstabed because i know how hard it is lol
@Нерпов
@Нерпов 4 ай бұрын
It's satisfying when mr.swipez get trickstabbed
@dombelly3343
@dombelly3343 4 ай бұрын
6:47 "I'm not getting" He was, in fact getting
@hydra9652
@hydra9652 10 ай бұрын
Lmao wtf, this guy gets around
@GibusSpyTF
@GibusSpyTF 8 ай бұрын
B4nnys ego just plummets when he gets stabbed
@ruzgar1372
@ruzgar1372 6 ай бұрын
Not even a b4nny fan but half of these are either facestabs or not even a trickstab (e.g 1:01)
@moaravik3086
@moaravik3086 10 ай бұрын
7:39 BRO PICKLE DIDNT GET STBABED IT WAS ZORROS
@solo_va5492
@solo_va5492 10 ай бұрын
zoro???
@jamcal8086
@jamcal8086 9 ай бұрын
I don’t think a single person who complains about trickstabs know how the backstab hitbox works. Also just stay out of melee range of a Spy it’s simple shit, lmao. If I get greedy and try to point-blank a Spy but get trickstabbed in the process I understand it’s fully on me. Meanwhile these 10,000 hour players can’t help but bitch and bark about a class they believe is underpowered having a last resort self defense option to get them out of a pinch.
@amediumhorse
@amediumhorse 9 ай бұрын
They’re allowed to.
@maximilianoferrer6841
@maximilianoferrer6841 9 ай бұрын
Spoken like someone who dies immediately after one successful backstab.
@NoahWood-j1v
@NoahWood-j1v 4 ай бұрын
STABBY STABBY getting trickstabbed is fucking amazing 4:29 ofc Venusian is so toxic about it lmao his poor pride
@winstoncheak4414
@winstoncheak4414 4 ай бұрын
this is so detailed and comprehensive its almost fetishistic
@gajonoob5122
@gajonoob5122 5 ай бұрын
i like how a third of these involve raw in some way haha
@leaves2557
@leaves2557 4 ай бұрын
waiting for the vorobey clip
@zOOpygOOpert
@zOOpygOOpert 4 ай бұрын
Seeing you getting foas to ragequit is so funny
@demoman5864
@demoman5864 10 ай бұрын
6:48 daily reminder that interp abuse is cringe and if you do it regularly i will find you
@colatf2
@colatf2 10 ай бұрын
That’s not interp abuse…. If you pause when he brings up the scoreboard, you can see that the spy has over 300 ping as do many of the other players. I’m not sure what this is from but I’m assuming it’s because jontohil2 is from New Zealand, far away from pretty much anything
@demoman5864
@demoman5864 10 ай бұрын
@@colatf2 thats still nuts
@DaniZeAlmighty
@DaniZeAlmighty 10 ай бұрын
As someone who used interp before, thats not how interp looks from the user's perspective at all, in your pov you'd see normal gameplay but not only do you do dmg to people 5 ft away from you, you also do it to them, you also pretty much to click at random since you cant know where their hitbox is. also demomman tf2?!?!?!
@Anshhhhhhhhhk
@Anshhhhhhhhhk 9 ай бұрын
thats not how interp works
@CannyBow
@CannyBow 9 ай бұрын
interp abuse isnt real and is just an excuse for bad players to cope
@hor1or1
@hor1or1 4 ай бұрын
please continue to upload more spy, I love the clips
@Kinodawker
@Kinodawker 10 ай бұрын
I thought this was a self uploaded fragmovie. I’m a little disappointed but this is still a cool compilation I guess
@roberte.salazar2702
@roberte.salazar2702 10 ай бұрын
Honestly who skips this awesome intro?
@tf2hontom
@tf2hontom 10 ай бұрын
raw's chapter should start at 5:57, not 5:47
@Hain3ss
@Hain3ss 7 ай бұрын
6:00 can u tell me what is that hud please ?
@alarmgustou5715
@alarmgustou5715 4 ай бұрын
+, please tell.
@alarmgustou5715
@alarmgustou5715 4 ай бұрын
i`m found drive.google.com/drive/folders/11FwYTGatDrLrLXPZjQlXiIOc6qhwoVbb
@gianlu018
@gianlu018 9 ай бұрын
Seriously, Vorobey ain't gonna get trickstabbed?
@0lmectf2
@0lmectf2 10 ай бұрын
When the octo segment started i thought you were going to trickstab xarq0n bcs of the bernstein bear
@Anshhhhhhhhhk
@Anshhhhhhhhhk 6 ай бұрын
hes been trickstabbed before
@0lmectf2
@0lmectf2 6 ай бұрын
@@Anshhhhhhhhhk Octo has, xar0n....... dunno abt that
@Anshhhhhhhhhk
@Anshhhhhhhhhk 6 ай бұрын
@@0lmectf2 i swear on my fucking life he has and it has been recorded, i just cant find it rn. But i know for sure that he has been stabbed on camera
@0lmectf2
@0lmectf2 6 ай бұрын
@@Anshhhhhhhhhk If what you say is true, than the spy is cheating also, LMAObox and Moneybot both have Anti-backstab.
@0lmectf2
@0lmectf2 6 ай бұрын
@@Anshhhhhhhhhk If you find evidence im all ears
@Schteb
@Schteb 7 ай бұрын
naming yourself after every spy main is kind of genius😏
@Schteb
@Schteb 7 ай бұрын
(i understand whats happening, i just want people to think this is you)
@elemusic19
@elemusic19 10 ай бұрын
I'm assuming theWhatshow has never been trickstabbed in his life.
@orangejuice8279
@orangejuice8279 9 ай бұрын
He got trickstabbed by raw before
@ExtraStuff2
@ExtraStuff2 4 ай бұрын
if you want an advise to kill spies don't let him get near you " pyro gaming "
@knight170
@knight170 Ай бұрын
10:30 glad u included that one lmfao
@steven_gt1178
@steven_gt1178 10 ай бұрын
No go after the final boss Vorobey :)
@choom
@choom 5 ай бұрын
how have they not caught this guy
@GuiltyOSheep
@GuiltyOSheep Ай бұрын
They make it look easy. But that’s years of practice, timing or just luck. Like how Bruce Lee said one man can practice one punch and master it then many moves to perfection
@Stones089
@Stones089 6 ай бұрын
4:08 music?
@BenjaminSteber
@BenjaminSteber 3 ай бұрын
Do not use your mouse to aim at the spy at close range. You must only strafe while firing. If you do use your mouse do so only while backpedaling. Do not get near the spy when he has any incline height advantage. When you are matedored you will find it happened because you were holding the w key while aiming with your mouse. DO NOT PRESS THE W KEY WHILE AIMING WITH THE MOUSE AT THE SPY AT CLOSE RANGE.
@СлышКупи-ы3е
@СлышКупи-ы3е 10 ай бұрын
Bug Spine Jumpscare
@ChiefShrek
@ChiefShrek 10 ай бұрын
Hahahahhaa the one guy working on tf2 said that this summer update "won't be as big as the last" as if that was a big update and not just a bunch of maps and cosmetics like every single boring christmas and halloween update hahaha. SMALLER? How does it get smaller than that? lmao
@davidmacdonald1855
@davidmacdonald1855 10 ай бұрын
In a way this video makes me feel both better and scared at the same time. I feel better that Im not the only one that gets reked by spies. It also makes me a bit scared because if all these players are getting destroyed then what chance will I have?:)
@Typical_Asian0
@Typical_Asian0 10 ай бұрын
The easiest way to get trickstab is to become prey and guide/bait them into a trickstab
@gjmguy7994
@gjmguy7994 4 ай бұрын
First one against Jonto was some real BS
@josuebasterretxea3923
@josuebasterretxea3923 4 ай бұрын
Paris moment confirmed.
@bobth6095
@bobth6095 10 ай бұрын
i got fatmagic once but I didn't know it was him until I saw his name in one of the videos so I wasn't recording a demo lol. Also I have a clip of getting shounic if you want but I'm sure there's plenty for him if you watch some vods
@minagatoru
@minagatoru 3 ай бұрын
weird... i dont see vorobey here... maybe hes just unable to be trickstabbed..
@_aidan_b
@_aidan_b 10 ай бұрын
I feel like you don’t know what a trick stab is… if they don’t notice the spy it can’t be a trick stab 🤦‍♂️
@InfamousInvictis
@InfamousInvictis 8 ай бұрын
Missed the list let's goooooo
@Schtaron
@Schtaron 4 ай бұрын
Facestabs are the same as getting headshot as you reach cover. They're both bullshit from your perspective, but we would rather take that than people teleporting all over the place trying to recorrect their position
@Mic.vencer
@Mic.vencer 4 ай бұрын
My man’s really just wiggled his mouse… smh 😤
@jacklayne8137
@jacklayne8137 5 ай бұрын
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