Low Bore Axis Italian Pistol: Revo Arms IS-9 Update

[@TFBTVShowTime]

FYI, price is 700 Euro in the EU. Sorry, I've covered this pistol once or twice in the past (this is the third year it's been at the show with no production yet). I dropped the ball on this and I failed you, TFBTV viewers. - James

[@762x69]

Since we're not expecting it until the end of the year, I wouldn't be surprised if you did another interview next year then you can give us the price 😂

[@flamingmetroid]

I'll never forgive you

[@isproject2169]

Hy James.. I am Simone of RevoArms.. It is very glad to me to meet you again. 1 question.. Who is the guy with you at. The begin of this video? I maked an interview with him but I lose his business card.. Thank you and see you sonn😊

[@TFBTVShowTime]

@@isproject2169 Kaya at Classic Firearms Good to see you on KZbin, Simone!

[@simoneinverardi6521]

@@TFBTVShowTime thank you James.....i am waiting the video of my AR9 😉😉😉

[@Caoimhin777]

This is historic cause the Italians haven’t produced anything Axis related since the 1940s

[@KrokLP]

And just like in 1938 they just dropped the Austrian relationship (Glock mags) and are not looking back at all

[@marvinpatrick6198]

Bet polish gun companies are worried for the next couple of months

[@basha3862]

And they ended it pretty darn bad.

[@JinKee]

@@basha3862i am sure it’s not bad to hang out

[@michalis75]

👀

[@darkhalo153]

James has the same smile I have on my face when talking to an extremely Italian person

[@jankaskyevitchjellbet7293]

I equally enjoy talking to Americans!

[@darkhalo153]

@@jankaskyevitchjellbet7293 Italians are some of the most fun people I've ever had conversations with

[@TacShooter]

Check out the Pasta Queen. lol

[@christopherdolan7330]

But does the design incorporate the golden ratio, and does it have a bunch of magnets for no apparent reason?

[@joecachia2]

hhha yes I've seen that one .

[@1014p]

It's not for no reason, grow up. The Elaysian is a builders take on art in a gun. He made that very clear. If you notice on that pistol the amount of metal in the lower frame is far less than any 1911 like or CZ pistol. Meaning the weight distribution is to the front while dropping weight. I'm sure if he wanted it could use screws.

[@Teknorat]

@@1014p yah I got a screw he can use.

[@joecachia2]

Don't forget all the gods that inspired it. Looks nice though !

[@skepticalbadger]

​If you love it so much you should probably be able to spell it. ​@@1014p

[@Qsaws_]

Glad you stopped by that booth again

[@medikpac7105]

The low bore axis had me interested, the unique polymer blend got my attention. Looking forward to seeing this stateside.

[@mccall9770]

reminds me of delrin or delrin like material

[@swiftaudi]

Is not any lower than a Glock. Check out the archon type b. Lower bore and a none tilting barrel.

[@wolfsworkshop9095]

I'm actually really curious too, I know that there are plenty of metal filled polymer hitting the market lately, so that's gonna be interesting to see

[@1014p]

​@@swiftaudiYou can see it's lower just by how close the trigger finger gets to the barrel. No Glock is up cut like that and a full rail is present instead. Now is the grip able to go up that high without slide bite? The slide weight and size are lower.

[@swiftaudi]

@@1014p It doesn’t work that way lol. In striker fired guns often the trigger doesn’t effect barrel height.

[@emrahaci5124]

I fell in love this pistol

[@JorgeGarcia-lw7vc]

Looks really cool, like a cross between a Glock and a CZ 75. Hope it won't be too expensive, that it will be reliable, and that that new material not be too brittle.

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

I seem to recall last time they interviewed about the prototype, they were shooting for a ballpark of around 650 USD.

[@blackcomet1]

@@InvidiousIgnoramuswith that price tag I am sold. It screams Glock for me and I like that. It’s not over the top in design, it takes Glock mags, basically shaped like a Glock but with better mechanics from what I can see. I would buy this for sure.

[@giovanniluise7715]

the price in Italy for the basic version is 700€.

[@blackcomet1]

@@giovanniluise7715 still good. Is it possible to buy from Italy and imported here? Or is that illegal? Not too sure never did any buying of firearms outside of the country

[@giovanniluise7715]

I think it's possible but it will cost you a lot in shipping and it will take ages to arrive@@blackcomet1

[@campbelldrew8757]

The IS-9 indeed features some aspects of the Hudson. Once you see the distance between the grip/frame and the slide on other handguns, you can't unsee it.

[@chris-pe2ml]

I want!!!!

[@PigPharmaceuticals]

That polymer is the most interesting part of the gun. I wonder if it’s similar to sig’s tungsten polymer grips.

[@bmstylee]

I don't get the tungsten grip frames. It's just as heavy as a metal frame......so why not just use a metal frame?

[@wolfsworkshop9095]

​@@bmstylee manufacturing, once you have a set of molds made you can crank them out like rabbits can crank out babies having a "metal" that behaves like a polymer allows you to do that, because atm the faster way to make it out of metal would be forging and then cnc milling

[@PigPharmaceuticals]

@@bmstylee nearly the weight of steel but with the slight flex of polymer is a very pleasant recoil impulse. I don’t love the 320 but the tungsten infused polymer is a clever idea. Also ostensibly cheaper to make than full steel, though in this case you’re still paying the sig tax.

[@daftpanda6533]

@@bmstylee It makes a difference where the weight is, as well as how much over all weight. So if you can have the weight mostly in the grip, it helps with the recoil impulse but doesn't make the pistol feel like a brick. Also, different size weights can be used in the grip module to better suit the shooters preferences. Another nice thing about polymer frames is they don't retain as much thermal energy, as polymers are typically insulators. So say you have a pistol that stays in a car safe- the grip won't retain as much heat or cold as metal would. That said, I also like metal frame guns, and both metal frame and polymer frames have their advantages and disadvantages.

[@jman0701]

The Italians are on fire this year! From Beretta, to Revo...they brought the heat in a major way....

[@nickcardwell]

That frame material sounds interesting. Looking forward to seeing it someday.

[@handeddegk197]

As an Italian I handled it last year and it was extremely interesting because It fitted my hand better than any other handgun. I find low bore pistols to be extremely comfortable and pointable. The only complaint-pointer is that the slide it’s awkward to operate because it’s recessed into the frame. The grip safety it’s a light lever so tape would do the job.. it’s a buy for me I’m sold. I spoke with him at the booth and price was estimated to be around 800€. Not bad

[@jordanhorst6]

That new polymer is The really interesting part. Can't wait to see what material developments happen the next few years

[@anthonyarcher7268]

Oh yeah the plastic is the interesting part.

[@Kesssuli]

@@anthonyarcher7268It may sound bit boring but i think it will have bigger impact in all polymer made products if it can replicate and match metal even more.

[@DOGMA1138]

Not really new, from the looks and sound and the "aerospace" provenance it's almost certainly PPS or a very close derivative of it.

[@dustinalexander1829]

Thanks for this one, I've been waiting for it.

[@frankopanklaric]

How were the products at IWA compared to shot show this year? I feel like I have clicked on more IWA than SS videos this year.

[@bmstylee]

IWA seems to have the really innovative stuff. The folks he is interviewing definitely appear much more professional. SHOT has tactical lever guns and gun bunnies.

[@Kesssuli]

@@bmstylee May have something to do with fact how Iwa is designed to be more for goverment level stuff than for everyday civilian. So professionalism is expected.

[@Akartavor]

Looks promising.

[@FrankDrebin90]

Is it just me or are all new gun designs from Italy based on the Arsenal Firearms Strike One? From the Archon Stryke B, to the Revo IS-9 and the Decima Rapax, they all kinda look the dame with that very low bore axis. Nothing bad about that, the Strike One was the best shooting pistol I ever owned. Besides that, I am really interested in that new material from Revo!

[@atomicsmith]

I love watching James and the reps talking past each other.

[@christopherdolan7330]

In this guy's defense, he speaks almost as much English as James does Italian. I think James did a great job of directing the interview and the rep did a great job of responding, to the extent that he could understand James's questions.

[@bishopm4401]

@@christopherdolan7330that’s actually one thing I’m enjoying about these European videos, James is making sure what the reps are saying is clear for us Americans

[@wolfsworkshop9095]

​@@bishopm4401 well, most of us European, especially older peeps, only talk our main country language and have at most a basic level of English, add camera shyness to the mix and there u go

[@bishopm4401]

@@wolfsworkshop9095 yeah exactly. James is making sure there aren’t any errors due to language barrier. I don’t fault these people for not being as fluent with their second or third language as I am my primary language

[@isproject2169]

​@@christopherdolan7330thank you.. I try to make my best😊. Simone

[@den_see]

Go Revo Arms! Im rooting for you! Pls have this gun approved in IPSC and USPSA. That will help in marketing and exposure as well as product development. Who knows might even apply with you guys as a sponsored shooter one day 😄

[@italianduded1161]

Love the looks, reminds me of the Lebedev or strike one

[@RedZeppelinAirship]

If this is sub 800 dollars in the US market, it might have a chance at being quite popular for a duty pistol, since it has glock mag compatibility and with a really nice low bore axis. This could become popular to modify and add muzzle devices and porting. Could be the poor mans Laugo Alien. A smaller IS-9 might be more practical though, more of a G19 grip and barrel length to be more concealable would be nice.

[@maledetto1221]

It's 700€(22% VAT included) in Italy

[@RedZeppelinAirship]

@@maledetto1221 That seems quite reasonable for this firearm. Italian manufacturing always tends to be quality, I am looking forward to a possible US import version!

[@adrianovergara1784]

Putting a subtitle on what 5.11 product is a great marketing strategy. Great job 5.11

[@WarLordXavier]

I hope this thing does well. One of the most interesting designs in the market and unlike the Laugo Alien you probably don't have to sell a kidney to get one

[@amo757]

I like the direct mount and low bore axis.

[@atranimecs]

I didnt understand a word he said but also understood every word. 2:55 that sounds like Aluminum Powder infused into a polymer 3D printing process.

[@isproject2169]

It is by injection... Not 3d printed 😉💪

[@DOGMA1138]

For anyone who's wondering what the frame is made of it's almost certainly PPS (Polyphenylene Sulfide).

[@1014p]

Sulphur to harden the plastic then?

[@DOGMA1138]

@@1014p It has very good mechanical, thermal and chemical resistance and it's semi-crystalline and has a high modulus hence why it rings like metal, especially if it's also fiber reinforced.

[@geebeaux]

Eyetalian Steve Mcqueen has the top secret polymer nailed down.

[@sportosp-0158]

Looked a hell of a lot like a CZ P07 at first glance. Seems very revolutionary but, is it Hi-point stronk?

[@dillontimm9442]

Before the video even started, I was saying RdRdRdRevoooo Ahms!

[@PetrosArgy]

Ok, now I'm convinced you lived abroad for some time or there's something about your family you're not telling us. You're way too good at rephrasing questions for non-native speakers to not have a lot of experience with that. That pistol looks BADASS!

[@borkwoof696]

You don’t need to live abroad in order to have continued experience talking with non-native speakers?

[@transtubular]

@@borkwoof696 Are you asking him if you don't, or telling him?

[@SwampyMusic]

​@transtubular lol, speaking past each other already I see But yes I agree with you that being said. Op has some 'splanings to do.

[@wolfsworkshop9095]

I mean, if I remember correctly he's a lawyer, so I presume it kinda is a skill he had to develop for work, plus he's been going to these for quite a while, he probably knows how to deal with these issues by now

[@PetrosArgy]

@@wolfsworkshop9095 you could be right. Most native speakers instinctively speak slower and louder but keep using the same words, which doesn't help. It's really hard to substitute vocabulary on the fly because you have to 1) identify the problem as vocabulary based and 2) come up with a substitute word or phrase likely to be understood. James did that really well here.

[@John_Redcorn_]

You forgot one of the two most important questions: how much. Droppin the f’n ball, man.

[@maledetto1221]

In Italy the annouced price is 700€(with 22% VAT included)

[@roninryatt4118]

If I buy one do I get that awesome turtle neck with my purchase.

[@RyTrapp0]

Interesting lack of bitching about this low bore axis pistol compared to the bitching that the H9 attracts...... lol, VERY cool pistol, would love to see someone do a comparison with the H9(and maybe some other pistols in this sort of realm), whether they end up being direct competitors on the market or not. I like the H9, I like DD's redesign, but this IS-9 is downright sexy looking...

[@1014p]

So this IS-9 is pretty much telling big comoanies your engineers are not engineering hard enough. Thos pistol I find interesting and am curious how the trigger locks up to the slide.

[@Hiddencomment007]

here we go everyone gonna get on the hudson train.

[@MavHunter20XX]

this is a gun I would get

[@ironwolfF1]

Trust the Italians to make a sexy looking pistol...that works. I look forward to the review videos once it hits the USA...it should be under 'new management' by then.

[@michaelweber9290]

Is it like a 19-11 grip angle Cz slide striker fire Glock? Thing

[@dannydowell9979]

Did ya get any idea of a price on that? I love the idea of a grip safety!

[@bmstylee]

I just don't see the need for one. Yes my XDM has one and it's not intrusive but with drop safeties and the trigger safety it's kinda redundant.

[@isproject2169]

Around 600usd +vat

[@triggerfingerstudios]

My understanding is that a metal mag catch is bad for interfacing with polymer glock mags. Am I wrong?

[@chriscarnes87]

Probably worse the other way around.

[@diametricallyopposed360]

Wow!

[@TacShooter]

I want.

[@sonoforygun7593]

The biggest question I think we are all asking is does the pistols glock mags take glock mags? Now that that's said did they mention who will be importing and when they will be available in the US?

[@redeye8526]

slide looks wide enough for an rmr cut . why marry yourself the the rmsc on a full size pistol ?

[@richardkluesek4301]

Sexy enough for John Wick and 007.

[@jeffhaddox2239]

That hardened polymer must be like the transparent aluminum Mr. Scott had made in San Francisco back in the 80’s. Only not transparent 🤣

[@thecocooreo]

Sounded like you were interviewing Valentino Rossi, lol

[@farklestaxbaum4945]

this guy is based

[@Diamondbackf1]

That Gun Fauchs!!!!!!!

[@netrunner1145]

Sorry everyone, can anyone tell me what kind of watch is being wore by the person in the video handling the gun? garmin? thank you.

[@TFBTVShowTime]

Both James & I wear the Garmin Fénix. Pictured is version 6 & 7 solar. You can find out more about James’ favorite wearables on the main channel as well as his personal channel. 👍🏼 -Ryan

[@netrunner1145]

@@TFBTVShowTime thanks so much 🙏

[@Philbrey]

I am not a gun expert, but I am yet to see anything (Browning action) with a low bore axis that beats the Steyr A1/A2 series.

[@neutronalchemist3241]

The Steyr A1 has a 1.15" bore axis. This one declared 1.12". So pretty much equal.

[@isproject2169]

​@neutronalchemist3241 11 mm to the hand and the axis of the barrel.. So around 0.43"

[@nickdevault5717]

How much?!

[@isproject2169]

600 +vat

[@davidgraflex2065]

I wonder how much it is going to cost

[@Dooby0071]

I love this guy lmao

[@isproject2169]

If you be a girl is ok for me... 😅😅😅😅. Simone

[@652barry]

$750

[@Ship-security]

Did he say how much?

[@maledetto1221]

It's 700€(22% VAT included) in Italy

[@ghost101049]

I would rather have a frame 1911 type thumb safety than a grip safety, IMO.

[@hoppinggnomethe4154]

That is extremely low for a polymer framed pistol.

[@anonymoussurname]

This looks like a custom, stylish, modernized Glock. It looks like the direction the Gen 5 Glocks SHOULD have went.

[@isproject2169]

Like a Glock??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@DerAtorak]

THE HYPE IS REAL

[@wheelguns4wheelmen802]

That metallic sounding polymer frame material has piqued my interest. May be one of the most interesting things so far from IWA. Too bad it doesn’t come with a $5,000 case…

[@Dstev98141]

Just call me Mikey, I like it!

[@mortem-tyrannis]

Looks good not liking the grip safety though.

[@mezzanoon]

There are many qualities that define an Italian, and being bilingual is not one of them.

[@maddog7012]

Whatah areah youah talkingah ah aboutah?

[@John_Redcorn_]

AAAAYYYY!! 🤌

[@keyhole9601]

My gun has a so low bore axis that I've to insert the magazine from the top of the slide...m😂😂

[@Caxel108]

Well it's end of year, almost 2025

[@Redacted-Information]

Make a NON GRIP SAFETY VERSION NOBODY needs that!

[@conductorcammon]

Balkey Bartakamous!!

[@willrace]

A nice Italian restyle of Steyr's M9-A1/2, and takes Glock mags to boot. It's a shame about that big, honkin' grip safety, though.

[@joker2100]

The grip safety is a deal breaker.

[@Torquem123]

Looks wicked. Grip safety is cringe.

[@crackshot-tv]

Had me at takes glock mags.

[@maximusjoseppi5904]

how much is this one? he said the word aerospace.... $20,000 euros?

[@John_Redcorn_]

Its Italian: its worth more than your life. (Tommy Boy reference)

[@neutronalchemist3241]

Last year he talked of about $ 650. With the new material, make it $800.

[@giovanniluise7715]

the price in Italy for the basic version is 700€.

[@isproject2169]

​@@neutronalchemist3241same price of last year... 😉😉😉. Simone

[@marks7502]

💲❓

[@EastCoastMan603]

Hot take: The low bore-axis thing is a marketing term. We’ve all pretty much figured out modern firearms. This is now just a boutique “look at me daddy” item. Almost everyone can shoot as competently with a stock 19 vs mUh 34 WitH AfTur BerNUr.

[@RyTrapp0]

...or it's just another option on the market that you can choose, because different design traits offer different characteristics that you may or may not prefer over another. Just like how you can choose a rifle like the AR that has inline recoil by design at the expense of core axis, or you can go with a more traditional-style rifle that has a dropped stock but low bore axis. I don't think anyone has claimed that low bore axis pistols turn the wielder into John Wick

[@Black84Beard]

Revo Arms sus😂

[@joeashbubemma]

Why the stupid grip safety? Deal breaker.

[@yourmissingsock556boop3]

Better be under 2k.

[@maledetto1221]

Around 700€ tax included

[@truthbetold7718]

Grip safeties are 🤢🤮

[@brian.louis107]

It's ugly! The grip is too large and oddly shaped. The trigger guard is disproportionately large as is the dust cover which looks bottom heavy. It won't attract too many people unless it stands out in performance.

[@DevonReclaimed]

How many times are you going to drop the slide on an empty chamber? Cringe

[@PeaceQueefer]

Plz learn the actual history of this design, Italians were just contracted to make this. Invented lol.

[@isproject2169]

.. I don't understand what you mean... 🤔

[@Perkeletricksterservantofrher]

the recoil must be terrible.

[@counterfeit6089]

Lower bore axis makes the recoil more manageable

[@Perkeletricksterservantofrher]

oh really ?Just seemed really long and lightweight. But I guess the recoil will be more linear. @@counterfeit6089

[@neutronalchemist3241]

@@Perkeletricksterservantofrher The more the barrel is inline with the recess between the index finger and the thumb, the less the barrel tilts upward. That's the most annoying part of the recoil. So the shooter perceives less recoil. See for example the reviews on the Chiappa Rhino revolver, or the Laugo Alien semiauto.

[@Toledotourbillion]

This gun looks like the Russian PL-15 but with more flair.😄🤌

[@Toledotourbillion]

@@LaughingMan44 The PL-15 handgun is manufactured by Kalashnikov Concern.

[@Toledotourbillion]

@@LaughingMan44 OK, but the strike one was also Russian. What Italian connection to the PL-15 are you talking about?

[@Toledotourbillion]

@MudHut67 I just got back from a 12 hour job and here you are some brain rot telling somebody to learn reading when you misread my initial comment yourself. Isn't that ironic.

[@Toledotourbillion]

@MudHut67 But Strike one is Russian am I wrong? Do you have to keep asserting its tenuous Italian connection? Listen "Brainiac", some of us have lives to live instead of debating over something so trivial.

[@rickdeppat4456]

gotta love this guy and his Italian ultra-accent ... de red dotteh 🤌🏻

[@ghittifrancesco3176]

Inverardi, REVO ARMS, stole the project from the TECNOSTUDIO ENGINEERING server. Italian law is very slow, but it arrives...

[@isproject2169]

Hahahaha. Suka suka pataciakkk 😂😂😂😂 40 anni non sei stato capace di fare una cippa 🤣🤣🤣... Fallito!!!

[@KennyP.Gemstone]

Uh beepity-boopity-boppity. 🥸