What's The Most Fuel Efficient Truck? 2020 Silverado vs Ram 1500 Diesel MPG Shootout!

( www.TFLtruck.com ) What's the most Fuel Efficient Truck in the Land? Is it the 2020 Silverado 1500 Diesel or the 2020 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel? There's only one way to find out. A TFLtruck MPG towing shootout!
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[@steverowe2943]

A most excellent comparison! Good job guys.

[@danatkinson6698]

Bill and Ted would be proud dude!

[@mrright2808]

Socrates would agree

[@airtexaco]

@@mrright2808 Socrates.

[@collinator68]

Imagine if vehicle manufacturers didn't have to worry about vehicle exhaust emissions so much, to have only the regulations from 1996 but now have this amazing fuel saving technology, we seriously could get 40+mpg from diesel engines in half ton trucks.

[@WheresWilson58]

I just ordered a '21 Silverado RST with the I6, I can't wait! Great vid, guys!

[@Hogger280]

I hope you don't have any check eng. light problems.

[@RBZ06LT6]

@@Hogger280 even if that happens, its rarely a big concern. It literally tells you something is to be looked at. Some automakers dont even let you know in advance and the vehicle breaks down on you.

[@agentwade]

@@RBZ06LT6 Who? ObdII has been law since like 95.5

[@kevinhoule8016]

I have the RST with the baby duramax...few recall calibration updates for emissions and the common radio issue, but otherwise my favorite truck of all time, without going over my budget of course...

[@drewhiz7334]

Andre: I'll give you the nozzle Mr. Truck! Mr. Truck: (enthusiastically) Thanks! I love this greasy oily thing! This review was good. GM did a good job on the diesel based on the reviews I've seen on other channels etc.

[@Intimidator82]

Andre: " Do you want me to insert the nozzle?" Mr. Truck: "Go ahead, while you have it in your hand"

[@edwardk6764]

The noozle

[@jonscott7686]

I love these tests you guys do it helps out tremendously without having to look through and find 100 other reviews that are legit keep up the great work guys!

[@Ahats5]

I would love to see a 3/4 ton diesel vs 1/2 ton diesel on the same conditions, comparing max load on the 1/2 on each truck. Might help some of us who are on the line for typical towing applications, but could be swayed up to the bigger truck and a bigger trailer in the future

[@dchawk81]

As someone who went from half ton to 1 ton, just get the bigger truck straight off if you can afford it. Fuel economy, power, etc aside you'll appreciate and even love the extra stability when trailering...even if you only ever planned on towing 8-10k that the half tons can do. Especially if any of your trailers is a box. Having said that, if all i ever planned to pull was my open deck car trailer (9990GVWR) the half ton would be fine because of airflow. But as soon as I got the 1 ton I was able to pull the open like it was nothing. And the 24' enclosed that my half ton technically could do but white knuckled, the 1 ton just doesn't care is back there. It feels the weight getting going and you see the fuel usage, but one handed cruising at 70mph is nothing. The half ton scared the bejeesus out of me at 60 with trucks passing and crosswinds, etc. I'm the one passing in the 1 ton. Construction zones aren't scary anymore, straight as an arrow, narrow lanes no big deal. It's glorious.

[@meals24u]

dchawk81 nice, what about towing a boat, let’s say 3k lbs.. My Titan looses efficiency like crazy when towing anything, even just a 3k lbs boat.. Would love a diesel for that

[@dchawk81]

@@meals24u For fun when I first got it I pulled an Acura on a trailer and it got 15 average on a loop of half highway and half state route with towns. I ran about 62-65 and occasionally punched it up to 70 around traffic. The state road was 55 max.

[@dchawk81]

@@meals24u For the record, I don't think I'd get a diesel for a 3k boat. I doubt the fuel savings would offset the premium paid for the drivetrain. A good V8 like the Ford Coyote I had would be fine, IMHO. It was fine even pulling a Lincoln Navigator on the open trailer and didn't use enough gas to warrant a diesel upgrade. A boat would be nothing. All vehicles suck more fuel when towing so there's no way around that. The Nissan is probably just exceptionally thirsty by today's standards, but if it's paid off and still reliable, that's another thing to consider. You can burn a lot of fuel for a car payment.

[@meals24u]

dchawk81 ok thanks for the feedback! Appreciated.

[@craigschulz1852]

Hahahaha! I love how Mr Truck says "Holy Cow Diesel is at $2.989 / gal. Here in Canada Diesel is $1.09.9 / litre which works out to $ 4.989/ Gal. Enjoy!

[@dilsher12]

I wish it was 1.09/litre, here in Vancouver its 1.45/litre.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

That's what happens when you live in a socialist country!

[@bmartinez2086]

@@JohnDoe-nz6bk In Cali its 3.99 a gallon dude and we dont live in a socialist country.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

Brandon Martinez again, that's what happens when you live in a socialist/communist country... Uhhh, I mean state!

[@johnathanyinger]

You mean $3.160 US/Gal. Get your conversions right bud.

[@KristoferOlsson]

I love the chemistry Mr Truck and Andrew have.

[@ericcaddy2417]

I have a 2018 crewcab ecodiesel with 4x4 and 3.92 rear end. I pull my travel trailer Aspen Trail 28bhs , unloaded 6900lbs maybe 8000lbs full with family. My average speed are 60-65 mph and i do 13 mpg !

[@scott6074]

I call cap 🧢

[@Gigachadly]

@@scott6074prolly cuz your a little Chevy fan boy 😂😂 I have a grand Cherokee overland eco diesel for my tow rig pulled 3 cords of wet birch which alone is atleast 1500 over max towing capacity didn’t go over 15 mpg at any point and the 15 was going up hill, also have 2 eco diesels but in the rams for my recycling company and it has over 380,000 miles on it original motor and tranny. Amazingly fuel efficient but absolute slugs whenever you want them to be fast and absolute pull you back in the seats when you don’t wanna go fast. Love and hate relationship with the eco diesel but one thing I won’t go along with is it being unfuel efficient or unreliable.

[@scott6074]

@@Gigachadly ok and? I’m calling cap of his 13 mpg. If you know anything you know that’s bullshit. I drive a 2021 raptor. Have a nice day

[@Gigachadly]

@@scott6074 I know what you were calling cap on, I’m saying I don’t find it hard to believe as I’ve owned a variety of these engines now and they’ve all been very impressive with fuel economy, my grand Cherokee alone has DPF delete, EGR delete, straight pipe exhaust & a tune, I’m pushing closer to 300 HP and about 510 FT/LB torque but I did the 3 cord pull stock, since the upgrade I’ve towed heavier loads and gotten better fuel mileage then before the delete. If his is modded in a similar way ( which he never commented on so I’m speculating here ) but I 100% can vouch that those numbers arnt unbelievable at all. Also very nice, what year raptor and would you recommend them for a farm / occasional tow rig? I’ve been heavily debating getting a raptor for the past few months here since the new farm we moved too is super bumpy but dunno much about their towing abilities, just know they have some of the best suspensions and can take bumps/jumps better then a Cherokee.

[@truckguyjoe]

Way to go Chevy! Everyone was doubting the Chevy 0-60 & fuel economy!

[@foxwithshades7080]

And Chevy Announced that the are increasing the tow rating for it next year.

[@jasonfalk7696]

Now they just have to change the way it looks!

[@224bigwheel]

Because it's ugly. I'm a Chevy guy. But won't drive this truck until they make the front end not look like a Honda. The ram looks 10x better

[@jaysson1151]

They also need to offer a larger fuel tank.

[@stevochar]

What is the 0 to 60 on this

[@berkalper4742]

Those a really impressive mpg numbers from both. It's good that ram offers the diesel in more trims levels, because the 8k price difference could pay for a decade of fuel

[@kidamere2408]

Yeah exactly makes it hard to justify a diesel

[@RBZ06LT6]

8k is like 2-3 years worth of fuel lol. For the extra longevity and better resale value. Its way better.

[@HarshSingh-iu3xs]

@@RBZ06LT6 way less if you tow for a living lmfao 8k will be gone in 1.5 years.

[@cumminsman4670]

Glad you’re beating the EPA, it used 2 be I could never beat them ....I always thought they tested down hill or something. Lol

[@steveknight9254]

I’m wondering if they warm the trucks up before doing the test.

[@Hogger280]

The manufacturers are testing (yes they do it and report to the EPA) more conservatively to avoid complaints and lawsuits like the Kia Soul.

[@kaliman198117ify]

Great comparisons. I would like to see a different truck from ram other than pre production. Also I'm not sure if it is 66 miles each way or total but I think the 98 mile loop will bring more accurate results

[@seagullsbtn]

Doing the 66 mile loop, swapping trailers, then doing it again, and refilling once only after both runs might be the best of all.

[@andyharman3022]

It's 66 miles total. I agree with you, they should keep the 98 mile loop.

[@cash2.0]

My Ram 2500 crew cab 4X4 gets over 25mpg highway unloaded at 65mph running a stock 5.9 high output common rail 325hp Cummins.

[@TheXOoftheRO]

Rams have always dominated efficiency.

[@meals24u]

woof bark growl what year? That’s impressive

[@cash2.0]

It's a 2006. The 5.9 Cummins does not come with a DPF or SCR smog devices. The later 6.7 does so I chose the older one. Mine is considered a 3rd generation. It is 24 valve but has common rail injection and doesn't have the notorious killer dowel pin of the 1st gen and no #53 block bad castings and no VP44 injection pump issues of the 2nd gens. They got it right in the 3rd gen and, unlike the 1st & 2nd gens, can get a real crew cab.

[@travispfannmuller7717]

Been there, had an 06 3500 srw 4x4 based on the advice of a relative who raved about fuel efficiency. My experience was it was comparable with my 06 6.0 power stroke 3500 srw 4x4 and buddies 04 duramax. And if I drove the Cummins like I had a raw egg under my foot I could get 20, towing was worse economy than the other trucks in my experience. And the horrible 4 SPD auto (even after significant upgrades) made towing heavy an adventure. New trucks are so much better they shouldn't be mentioned in the same conversation in my opinion

[@harleyjackson5513]

New Ford 6.7 is impressive.

[@jonathanjohnson7131]

You best do you research on the Duramax diesel it has a belt-driven oil pump that has to be changed every hundred and twenty thousand miles and you got to pull the transmission to change it 😠😠

[@chriss2352]

Amazing the difference in diesel price and truck prices watching this in December 2022

[@kevinhabener1279]

I like this vid. I have to admit that I am a would-be Chevy/GMC person if I were to be partial to one make over the others. But it seems to me that the Ram, many times, has been a no-brainer with these modern trucks at things like this. And the Silverado is the ultimate underdog that I am so glad to see make a come-back at something. And if I'm correct, the 3.0L diesel Silverado still has under 300ft/lbs torque while the Ram is up to 480 but has been out for a while and been re-designed.

[@kb9oak749]

Biggest and most important difference: Duramax engine is not a FIAT. That's a good thing.

[@blegi1245]

oak 1971 KD9NXQ neither is the VM Motori engine in the ram.

[@leehancock2782]

Gm uses fiat diesel in the Colorado and canyon🤔😏

[@blegi1245]

lee hancock no they don't. The engine in Colorado is the VM Motori A 428 DOHC. VM Motori is not Fiat Powertrain Technologies.

[@ShadowOppsRC]

The original eco diesel design was a gm one that gm opted to not use. It was a joint venture.

[@blegi1245]

Shadow Opp.'s RC wrong. A 630 DOHC is based on an internal VM 2.9 liter V6 diesel design who's client was supposed to be GM. GM withdrew from the project due to the global financial crisis. The engine A 630 DOHC is derived from was designed FOR GM, not BY GM.

[@Ryan-yi6su]

Hey guys I just watched another video regarding the type of diesel you need to use for your trucks and it has to be top tier. And if you can't use top-tier diesel then they recommend using a diesel treatment every fill up

[@jamesdean780]

Interesting. I have a 2020 silverado rst four wheel drive duramax. It also has a levelling pack so it is not elevated at the rear. I found the mileage to be similar to this demo pulling a 5000 lb (approx) camper in hilly terrain. Very happy with it so far. Purchased used with 50,000 km on it. )

[@FirePoo]

I gotta admit I love my '14 ecodiesel grand cherokee with the gde tune, but I've never ever ever been a fan of v6 engines. To me they feel like they have the torque of a 4cyl down low with the fuel efficiency of a much larger engine. Basically, I just don't enjoy the way they deliver their power. I've always loved a straight 6 configuration. To me they've always delivered nearly instant torque down low and given fantastic fuel economy compared to v8 counterparts. That's why I've always preferred Toyota supra's to corvettes and i6 jeeps compared to v8 off road monsters. I've never owned an i6 Cummins, but it's definitely on my "must own" list. I purchased my ecodiesel jeep instead of a Cummins 2.5 years ago because I'm averaging 30k+ miles per year. I tow between 1200lbs to 6800lbs every other weekend, but a little ecodiesel was more economical for my purposes driving 600mi/week unloaded. Of the 30k+ miles per year that I drive, at most I'm only towing 3k-5k miles of that, and like I said, the trailers are only 1200lbs to 6800lbs depending on the project that week. I'm extremely interested in the chevy 3.0l diesel simply because it's an i6, so the torque down low compared to the v6 ecodiesel should be immense. I don't really give a rats ass about peak torque, I mean sure it's great having a lot of torque, but really what matters is area under the curve. I want to know how these two deliver their power on a dyno, on the same day, same conditions, same time. The numbers that matter are how much torque each engine puts down off idle up to around 3.5k-4.5k rpm. The area under the curve matters so much more than peak, it really irritates me when people just "parrot" the claimed peak power number. Imo that i6 3.0l diesel could be something truly special. Let's get all 3 3.0l diesels and have a dyno day and overlay all 3 dyno graphs to compare the numbers at various points of the rpm range where the engines are usually being run day-to-day. Please TFL make it happen! ♥

[@allanj4576]

Great to see these comparisons but just like anything it's a different story when you start dealing with mountains all day, I live in western Canada and I never get even close to EPA ratings.

[@JimBronson]

WRT to the Chevy...Based on the gas vs diesel prices in my neighborhood of $1.97 for regular unleaded and $2.45 for diesel...Even at the rated 33 mpg highway you are only saving $2940 in fuel costs over the 5.3 over 150,000 miles at it's rated 21 mpg highway. I bet the mileage delta between the diesel and the gas V8 is less in city driving as well. Then there is the DEF fluid costs. The cost differential on the build and price tool for the 2020 truck on the LT trim is $5310 for extra for the 3.0 over the 5.3 and $6705 more versus the 2.7 I4 turbo gas engine. You have to really want a diesel to get this, because for the average suburban commuter you're not going to save any money on fuel unless you drive it 270,091 miles or more.

[@markwill8309]

Add in the costs of new brakes on the gas truck, they don't have exhaust braking.

[@markwill8309]

I totally agree with you if you live in LA. If you live in the mountains, I think the diesel has the upper hand, especially if you are towing >5,000lbs.

[@JimBronson]

@@markwill8309 I'm looking at it from the standpoint of a suburban commuter. If you tow a lot and especially if you tow in the mountains, the diesel makes a lot more sense. Mileage on gassers nosedive when you're towing. Do the OEM's offer an exhaust brake on the half-ton diesels?

[@PatrickRich]

man those are impressive unladen highway numbers.

[@frambach508]

Good video. Thanks for the comparison. Results at 20:18

[@jeffreyconforti4689]

I have had 3.0 Liter diesels since 2006. They ALWAYS get better highway mileage than EPA numbers if you drive steadily.

[@MrInnovativeSound]

Great job guys! I’m curious how often regen cycles effect these tests. The passive regen modes are so difficult to detect in these trucks, but could easily swing the mileage dramatically one way or the other.

[@ShotGunner5609]

Depends on your driving. Longer distances the engine is doing it by itself without needing to go into regen. Least thats how semis are.

[@406Steven]

@@ShotGunner5609 It's all about using your diesel truck as a diesel truck rather than a daily driver. We got over 200k miles out of the stock emissions system on our 2016 Silverado 3500 as a car hauler before having to replace the DPF. The second DPF outlasted the head gaskets and transmission.

[@Rift45]

@@406Steven Excellent point, if you run a diesel all day the MPGs get better and better. Short trips it will be much lower.

[@fr8trainUS]

My 06 Cummins closing in on 300k I average 18 mpg not towing. I can't complain. Now if I can get the death wobble sorted out

[@computer1166]

I got nostalgia about times pre COVID watching this video

[@Elsanta666]

I dont tow much or use truck for work only to carry my atv and haul a golf cart...but at this price and mpg is a no brainer one of these two is the best option even if you don't tow

[@garthhayward9581]

That's a really good result from both manufacturers. Amazing to see how these small block high torque motors have advanced.Anyone recall what the Fords results were? Great work Andre and Mr Truck.

[@yogiyoda]

powerstroke got 11.6 towing. but you can't really compare because that trailer didn't have a hay rack.

[@garthhayward9581]

yogiyoda Thanks, any idea how it did unloaded?

[@yogiyoda]

@@garthhayward9581 -nope, sorry

[@harleyjackson5513]

I would definately get the Ford!

[@timothymclaughlin6860]

Thanks Fellas! What a great comparison! Thanks for what you do .

[@karlschauff7989]

If FCA worked on making the Ecodiesel quieter, does that mean they tried to eliminate the high rate of bearing failures that plagued the last version of the 3.0 ED?

[@harleyjackson5513]

Not a chance. A fiat ram is still gonna have bearing failure!

[@paulzak7660]

TFL great test! How about using trailer weight of 80% of towing capacity of each truck? This would be interesting!

[@michaelmappin4425]

My RAM towed a travel trailer through 38 states over 4 years. I was overweight by 200 lbs the whole time. My hitch distributed it evenly to 50 lbs per tire.

[@jamespenner1412]

Great job, now please test what 80 percent of the market buys, A 4x4!!!!!

[@meatbeansandcheese]

Just calculate a MPG or so difference for the 500lbs of running gear that's used 3 times during the life of the truck.

[@gregchiropolos9885]

Frendo not if you live in snow country

[@TdrSld]

@@gregchiropolos9885 I live in South Texas and use mine 7 -8 times a month, and thats not even counting my beach trips lol. When I lived in Laramie Wy, I lived in 4HI for 5 months of the year almost lol, god I hated that place in winter haha.

[@TdrSld]

@@meatbeansandcheese more like 200-230lbs for 1/2 ton 4x4 system.

[@meatbeansandcheese]

@@TdrSld I fully understand that many people actually use their 4x4 system regularly, but even in generalizing, I'm at least 70% correct by saying that many people will only use it 3 times in the life of the vehicle.

[@manveerbajwa2206]

I don’t think many people know this but the mirrors on truck are at different angles on each side. If you are to measure the mirrors on both truck, you have to measure the same side.

[@dsstephenson3952]

Interestingly than BMW used a straight 6 twin turbo diesel in X5 and 335 for years which had similar torque numbers

[@steveknight9254]

Yeah but BMW STANDS FOR BREAK MY WALLET!

[@rhare7353]

check out mr truck bouncing in the dodge at the 14.3 min mark

[@techs1smh13]

Have to have shocks with stiff rebound with coils and or air bags otherwise it's like basketball

[@revgordon91]

I LOVE THESE COMPARISONS!!

[@kevinjones5057]

You guys are putting out really great videos and have been really helpful. What is your mileage loop?

[@jimmysgarage9068]

Basically, if MR TRUCK isn't talking about it, I don't want to hear about it.

[@jevrolet]

Why does the RAM temp gauge look like it is pegged in the Red?

[@harleyjackson5513]

Ram is junk!

[@nicksreviewsmiami]

Thank you for the retest of the Ram! Although it is not 40MPG, i am happy with 33!

[@steveknight9254]

Andre, Mr truck. Thanks for your consistent standardized testing, it makes it easy to compare apples to apples. The Straight six is a better diesel in my books. I’m not sure if the duramax has oil consumption issues but I do prefer the GM despite the lower towing weight. I’m looking forward to seeing how the Tahoe\Suburban compares on this test to the Chevrolet/GMC truck when the Duramax becomes available in that GM sport Ute platform. I’m also interested in how the GM/Dodge 4X4 trucks compare on this test. Most people in snowy states\Provinces prefer the 4X4’s. Andre I appreciate your calibration of the vehicle Speedo’s to a true GPS speed, I have always found GM to be dead nuts accurate (Which has was confirmed by your cross check) to the gps speed but don’t have any experience with Dodge any comments? I curious if the ram speedo is as accurate.

[@superior3384]

You guys are great. Love your channel. You always show new truck's. I was wondering if you could do a few videos of used pick up truck's. Ram , Toyota Tundra, Chevy Silverado, full size used trucks

[@danatkinson6698]

Everything you're about to read is from the perspective of a ford guy. I like the Chevrolet over the ram and I'd buy the chevy over the ford diesel offering. Towing is more confidence inspiring than with the ram with the movement of the 5 link coil setup although both ride well mty. The chevy is faster with no noticeable turbo lag and is quieter for those trips to the drive thru you know are going to eventually be made. I fit in the back seat of the chevy with the front seat all the way back and I can't say that about the ram. Ram wins the beauty contest but when it comes to a truck, I shop for function over beauty. And you can see my reflection in the back window of the chevy right at the last fill up so oops!

[@brianwelch1884]

I did notice that when you topped off the Chevy after towing you held the fuel handle halfway instead of fully open as with the dodge. This puts more fuel in the chevy and makes the mpg slightly lower.

[@waynekeizer5720]

I wish you guys would test the big duramax vs the little one on mpg loop to see which one gets better numbers towing like 7k cargo trailer.

[@Ram-re5em]

What they don’t talk about and people for get is why I got a 3/4 ton truck and trading in my 1500 Ram Hemi. I got the Ram 2500 long bed with 6.4 Hemi I have 3000 payload - 14000 towing - larger frame - way more ground clearance - larger axels solid axles - bigger gas engine. - larger brakes. Now when i tow my 7000 pound camper I am at 50% of my towing. I put my 1000 pound ATV in the back close the tail gate because of the 8 foot bed connect the camper and configure it any way it want and don’t even know it towing it with the new 8 speed transmission. My 1500 was seriously stressed out with this towing and payload. Oh and I don’t buy Diesel engine because of all the EPA emissions on them and it will freeze up on my driveway in Montana. Oh and the 2500 4 link and coil springs on the rear rides like butter............ my Laramie Ram 2500 listed for $61K and I got it for $54K at this price I feel it will run circles around any half ton. That include a fully loaded truck with sun roof - leather - H/K 750 watt stereo - power everything - power pedals - power seats in front - heated seats front and rear - towing mirrors - memory seats thing is loaded loader.

[@c.chavis6314]

United States: OMG Diesel gas is almost $3.00 a gallon California: Awesome! Which gas station?

[@techs1smh13]

In Cali we get the newsome pelosi special diesel. 4.00. there fuking idiot's

[@Jthumper]

wish they would put these engines in a 8 passenger SUV, wife drives 110 miles a day and suv MPG is killing us

[@rlhmarines]

It's rumored to be going into the next generation 2021 Tahoe and Suburban.

[@johnsholian4318]

I don’t like the fueling process. Top off the tanks with a portable tank. Measure out an equal amount of fuel into another portable tank and use that to refill after the test. Measure out the remaining fuel in the portable tank after the test and then do the math. Eliminate any inconsistencies between pump refills. Other than that, it’s nice to see some real world unbiased tests being done.

[@bschell1969]

I hate towing with rams because of that rear suspension, it’s not confidence inspiring after you’ve towed with solid leaf trucks

[@Rockrewls]

And now for the IKE, great job folks!!!

[@TheJohn4231]

Only problem with the chewy is no history on the reliability yet, but it has a lot of pep more than my Eco diesel.

[@JerseyMikeP]

I've Never seen a Diesel Idle at 1,500 RPM... unless in Regen. 1,500 rpms is more like Peak Torque Rpm.

[@matthewgray2200]

You guys should weigh the trucks with the full fuel tanks since the Ram has a much larger tank. I'm willing to bet the weight difference is significant

[@jorgegonzales878]

It is no joke. I just tried it in my 2014 GMC Sierra Denali with the 6.2 l engine and I had a 3-in leveling lift kit and 33 big off-road tires on it and I was getting 18 miles per gallon on the highway very disappointed with my 2021 ram rebel that it's only giving me 14.2 miles per gallon on the highway at 80 mph

[@Vern.Anderson]

Great job Kent and Andre!!!

[@markhall3434]

I think the Silverado has a gas tank restriction.. after the first 30 sec, should go very slow to get it all the way. I had a ford minivan with a slow feed gas tank.. have to go ultra slow near the top to get a consistent full level. your mileage may vary.

[@brandedmcgowan9414]

Next text is the ike? Including Ford (not fan of),maybe Nissan? That's the test i wanna see please!

[@HugDeeznueces]

What app is the one Andre is using? I need to do my own tests with my 2020 3500 RAM

[@clintkapphan6265]

I would like to See the loops made with each truck after making a loop pulling the trailer first to make sure both trucks have completed their regen cycle to ensure that isn't effecting the mileage.

[@JustSomeGuy641]

Numbers are impressive but im afraid diesels can no longer be trusted after the EPA got their bunny hugging paws on them. Keep it long enough to run through your warranty and you will be rolling the dice.

[@TheCruzman2]

You may disagree but I believe your test may be prone to error. Here is why I say that. With my 2013 Ram when I pull heavy I believe that the DPF gets far cleaner then when the truck runs solo and ever more so than when the truck runs solo and does a regen. In my experience after pulling heavy after words I see 4 - 5 better MPG for about the first 300 miles. What does TFL do so that the trucks are in a fair comparison?

[@shuckan]

Great job guys!

[@brianwelch1884]

The Ram has bad vibration and noise when towing.

[@100asdfjkl]

Let me offer some comments. The length of the trip is too short to be meaningful when compared to the likely errors in how identical the fills are. One 8 oz cup of fuel makes the difference and I doubt the fills can be that consistent. Particularly when the second portion of the fill is done manually rather than setting the nozzle on the lowest lock so that at least that is consistent between each trucks. How about taking one truck and do the trip 10 times and fill it up each time you do the trip and calculate the mileage for each trip as well as the overall mileage based upon the total of all the fills. See what variation you get on each trip. Also reset the onboard mileage calculator each time and record what it says. One cup of fuel in a 26 or 33 gallon tank amounts to a very small fraction of an inch of tank level. Just for talking purposes if the tank is 3 ft long by 1.5 ft wide 8 oz of fuel is about 3/16" of height in the tank. Given the accuracy of the fuel injection system of all these trucks it seems to me the electronic system has the potential to be 100% accurate. With your contacts with the factory engineers how asking them how their systems calculate the mileage and what accuracy it has. It should be virtually 100% accurate unless they purposely cook the books. All the best guys,

[@CountryRedneck]

Why is the lights flashing on the Silverado, great test!

[@rocketj7449]

Love those towing mpg results! Blows away my 8 mpg average! Who can help me decide which truck is better for towing a 5th wheel toy hauler at 2000lb pin weight?

[@leehancock2782]

Better go with a 3/4 ton

[@rocketj7449]

@@leehancock2782 I'm sure these ecodiesel have enough power, but lack on the payload!

[@harleyjackson5513]

Get a Ford Tremor.

[@billp5424]

....guards of oil at a change. What is the oil capacity of these small diesels? The mileage interval? The DEF capacity mileage interval?

[@F41Driver]

I got 12.5MPG towing 6,500lbs. in my ‘16 F150 2.7L EcoBoost. Empty it only got 18MPG though. lol

[@ericgrinnellsr.832]

Was there any change in the wind? A tailwind or headwind has a huge effect.

[@gregoryfaulkner5345]

I think it was Mr Truck who said that this amazing mpg is due to 8 to 10 speeds and 3.21and 3.23 rear axle ratios, Ram and Chevy, respectively, but my very light 4,190 pound, regular cab F150 has a gas engine that displaces only 2.7 liters with V6 architecture. It has 3.31 rear axle ratio. It does have only 6 forward gears but since model year 2018, the newer version with an updated engine has a ten speed, but roughly the same mpg estimate as my 2015 model truck. I can make that same mpg loop and would expect no better than 26.5 real world in the near lightest and smallest half ton available in the segment and is powered by the most economical gas engine in any truck and high gearing to boot. Even so, the best of the best gas pickups for fuel economy is beat by these new diesels by at least 6 mpg. No! It is not gearing and transmissions with many forward gears or even aerodynamics that propel these new trucks to new heights. What makes them go way beyond 30 mpg and higher than my compact wagon Kia Soul with only 118 ft-lb torque is amazing diesel efficiency. Plain and simple. Diesels have jumped way out in front of gassers once again.

[@Bacnow]

Gregory Faulkner - keep in mind that Ford plans to introduce a hybrid F150 next year! So, gas engines will close that gap and might be a better option for most people who aren’t hauling or towing on a daily basis. If it does well then i think the new diesel era may be over before it starts. Especially, when you consider the fact that this new generation of diesel engines were designed for fuel economy only with no regard for durability!

[@thomaspaul2465]

I am considering this the best that a truck can do to offer the lowest cost per mile based on energy type and the Tesla Model X does it for 5-8 times cheaper depending where you charge from or buy fuel from. If you live in Canada diesel is around $4.80 a US gallon

[@athletejmv]

@20:00... love seeing that Air Stream in the background :-P Not an Air Stream fan, but I love my travel trailers... I own a 2020 Oliver Travel Trailer... most durable travel trailer on the market IMO :-P Awesome review you two, much appreciated. I'd really prefer the Chevy, but the RAM is more bang for the buck... on top of that... Chevy isn't doing well these days with their part supplies from my understanding. RAM is awful as well...

[@harleyjackson5513]

Just get a Ford F-150!

[@alaxandergw3245]

We can use all that money we save on fuel to put towards the oil pump belt maintenance at 150k for the chevy.

[@100asdfjkl]

a correction to my post below-8 ozs or a cup of fuel in the referenced tank would be less than 1/32nd of an inch change in the tank level. Not the 3/16" i stated below. Apologies for the error in the original post.

[@daniel-ino]

Now ask anybody on the street to make the math in their heads. Crazy imperial

[@tundras4ever552]

Yet a small v6 pickup gasser gets like 17mpg lol these trucks are game changers

[@allenhorton2505]

Isn’t the duramax still using the CP4.2 injection pump? Not sure what improvements they’ve made recently, with respect to the fuel system failures. I do know that Ram moved back to the CP3, in part due to reliability issues with the 4.2.

[@daviddenman7479]

I love the Ram, but I love the in-line of the GM. Build a inline 6 Ram!!!!! Dang it!!!!

[@voltecrules624]

According to Scotty, you should never top off the fuel tank.

[@harleyjackson5513]

And only buy Ford or Toyota trucks!

[@DaveM111]

I have a 2020 Rebel w/ the Ecodiesel. It's a buzzy, vibrating POS.

[@apxzz4392]

Me watching when diesel is $6+ a gallon 👁👄👁

[@ClintonChartier]

Check again on the dodge, i seen 14" from the A-pillar on the dodge to the outer edge of the mirror not 15"... i would also measure 90deg from the side window not parallel to the mirror

[@joelamb7373]

When will you be testing the new 2020 6.7 powerstroke?

[@harleyjackson5513]

That what I want too see!

[@Brhom20-]

Chevy Silverado 😍🤘🏻

[@TexanUSMC8089]

If you have a 4 door and short bed you always get the smaller tank.

[@arichoward9635]

I love how years ago when ford introduced the capless fual filler and the I think ceo but not sure said no one would be interested in that, priceless seeing a chevy with it lol

[@Boatright]

I dont like it, makes it easy for dirt to get mixed into the fuel. Driving down gravel roads will fill that area up with dust in a heartbeat and putting in the nozzle with scrape dust and dirt off the fall away door and right into the tank.

[@harleyjackson5513]

Ford is always first!

[@brianslaugh3029]

You probably have winter fuel now when you tested the Dodge last time you might have had summer fuel its heavy better fuel economy

[@steveknight5416]

Good point, winter diesel usually starts in November. So those numbers will be higher for sure in the summer. . I loose 10% in the winter on my Passat diesel.

[@nathankestin1922]

5:20 Andre references old town road once again! Day made, thank you TFL!

[@moose5.9]

You'll never notice or see a 1mpg difference but these results are amazing...who wouldve thought a full size truck gets over 32mpg?

[@matthewmacroberts2939]

Love your channel... I have a word of caution though. Those radios look suspiciously like Baofengs. If so, using them without an amateur radio license is a federal offense. If your using them on commercial frequencies and have a commercial license, it’s still illegal because they are not FCC approved for use in the U.S. Amateur radio operators can use them because they are licensed to modify them to ensure they meet frequency standards. The plain fact is the quality control at the Chinese factories is very poor and they cause very bad interference on many harmonic frequencies... including those reserved for police/fire/ambulance and other critical communications. Again, I love your channel and you put out great information. I just want to make sure you know if those are Baofengs or one of the other Chinese clone radios that they are not good to use in the U.S. (Even if Amazon or other online stores sell them)

[@knightwing4]

I wonder how much fuel you used switching the trailer? That must of had a small effect. Either way they’re still pretty close.

[@juliansalcedo1394]

At the end what really matters is wich one has the best engine cause i have been watching my friends having a hard time with duramax engines,dodge diesel got certain prestige

[@BigEd2006]

Cummins does, the Eco Diesel growing pains. Chevy is the wild card right now.

[@aaronbritt2025]

Wish I could pay $2.98 for diesel. It's $3.15 to $3.50 in Vegas. Still cheaper than regular gas though.

[@meredithwoodson8901]

Are there any indications from this test regarding durability long-term? does the fact that the RAM transmission takes more load going downhill (fewer brake applications) indicate anything in terms of longevity as compared to the GM truck? Mr. Truck ripped GM for having an exhaust brake that "didn't work", but I'm wondering if perhaps it just takes some of the load off the transmission which would in term result in the GM transmission lasting longer?

[@jflowers090]

Considering you can get the ram for almost 8k less. I think we got a clear winner.

[@nathanmapes1441]

I'm sure it's too old of a video for answer. Grant it, I could probably just Google. But driving 30k a year, is it beneficial to go diesel for the MPG? Or am I still financially better going gas to avoid DEF and other diesel related variables? (Most likely never towing) just need a truck for our lifestyle

[@Buckshot1123]

I love my 3.0 Duramax!!!

[@T-Rex_Slap]

Who else is here in 2022 after watching the top 5 best mpg trucks?