TFT Is Bigger Than We Thought...

[@ChoccyMilkk]

Honestly, practically every TFT round, I see a chibi, and that is often a sign someone either invested money, or a really big amount of time in the game. So, it's not really a surprise to me, considering the investment both Riot and many players themselves have put in the game.

[@fdefaefa105]

well ever since they made a way to get them for "free" they became alot more common, i happen to own two without any money spent

[@AndroidA258]

i got a bunch without any money spent tho

[@c.j.shotgunangel8905]

2 chibis most times for me per round but yes massiv win for rito

[@EminNSU]

I've always been completely indifferent to the cosmetics in TFT, not because they're bad, but because of the gacha system with the eggs. Now however there are battle passes by which I got Caitlyn and Ashe. So the Riots have found a way to get some money out of me. Although I still don't spend a dime buying gacha currency - that's for addicts.....

[@frostfrost8907]

I buy the pass because I feel it is really worth it and supports a great game that I love. It is... Kinda what most people buy too. It is a seasonal battlepass that gives you things related to the season in 3 different ways (arena, chibis, and kabooms). In comparison League battlepasses suck and don't give much value.

[@nico77212]

A very easy way imo to really get people to spend money is, you see those little characters called Chibis? They should make an area where all the chibis you bought are in a farm or town like setting and let them idle around and interact with all of them.

[@nezothgarone2319]

So a Chao garden from the sonic adventure games, but with chibis and pets, it would be awesome, but unfortunately, the client is so piss awful that it would be impossible without making a TFT standalone client separated from the lol client

[@thefire76]

Imagine if you could build a house/manage your farm to give a home and feed all your chibis, and if playing normal tft would give you resources to build... It would make me install the game and buy some chibis for the first time ^^'

[@skylofter6840]

that is an insanely good idea but honestly to make it less ptw id rather it be for all of your litte legends. Honestly they could just make it the new way of using those boring star shards rn

[@worldeater2414]

Sounds like Animal Crossing

[@lytra_]

Would also be cool if you could build like friendship levels by interacting with them, earning loot and emotes etc. and maybe the final level could be a special banner or finisher

[@AlexanderForsman]

Mortdog diff ^^ His interaction with the community was the best commercial TFT could have had

[@TheWhiteyOfDarkness]

Yeah, Mortdog is carrying the community and the team so hard. In their official announcements they actively push other faces. It's so wholesome

[@namel3469]

That right love Mortdog

[@slei8656]

Best part of TFT is no encounters with toxic trolls

[@RedRiot914]

Unless you play double-up. OR go chembaron and someone sells all their units just to lose to you

[@velgard.]

I only saw a toxic person once and it was because someone got lucky with 3 star 4 cost before anomaly

[@Chiefkeefgaming]

Play chem baron and you will meet the toxic trolls lol

[@eliaspadari2761]

:mute option exist: dunno why ppl can't use a simple option and complain.

[@ayumireborn]

Trying to stop a chembaron lose streak is very common and nothing about it is toxic, it's just a strategy You're not playing league you're on your own against other 7 players and given how OP the shimmer items are you better do that or play the rest of the game racing for the 2nd place.

[@MGZetta]

Riot also has the most popular card game between the dead ones.

[@rayznshine]

Well about that...

[@RodriNoSeDVR]

Well...

[@ساهرحواس]

Unfortunately true

[@Shinyolo]

I'll always be resentful towards Riot for letting LoR dying. Path of Champion is an entirely different game to me. They just let my favorite game of all time die ...

[@МаксБурый-р2ю]

​@@Shinyolo didn't they aknowledge that it's a money sink at some point And then complain it makes no money

[@Arthur-ek7nd]

You can play a game of TFT after work and avoid being auto filled, dodged, trolled, etc. I can play TFT in the background while watching tv. etc. it makes sense that it is bigger than league.

[@dankilla5964]

It is not bigger than league, they said it's the biggest strategy game not the biggest game.

[@_sick5_481]

Not even close to being bigger than league

[@jase6560]

Bigger than league? Where the fk did you get that from lol? Never in a billion years buddy

[@UltraDumbass]

U will get trolled. And it is mostly luck dependent or just meta spamming

[@Lightqueller]

​@@_sick5_481you'll never know. Tft has an advantage in terms of accessibility cause it's available on mobile. You may see league pulling millions of viewers on events like worlds but I bet majority of those viewers are not active league players. I for one last played league when gnar is the newest champ but I occasionally watch worlds (tho I played wildrift for 1-2 seasons)

[@skillgamer76]

Best way to see if a game is increasing is look at their job posting. There were more TFT jobs than league and valorant combined at one point.

[@8ball1Panda]

I started TFT just to get rid of the mission in the quest tab. Ever since i loved playing it. I dont depend on idiots who are running it down and i only blame Mort for anything else. Love him and his team. Player since set 8. And yes, I have more hours spend on TFT than LOL.

[@Alonix__]

i quit league few years ago, still play tft, love all the new combos you get each season, keeps the game fresh. skins are nice and cool, paid twice for battle passes and have enough points for 2 skins from that seasonal shop, just waiting for teemo to pop up :D

[@TearThatRedFlagDown]

The great thing about TFT generally speaking is that if I lose, that is 100% on me. It's not because of team mates or like in TCG games, because I lack the cards to complete my deck.

[@CrolyGiart]

not 100%, but i agree that its mostly the players fault.

[@TearThatRedFlagDown]

@@CrolyGiart True, everyone gets screwed by RNG but a good player can still climb in spite of that.

[@icyfigher]

​@@TearThatRedFlagDown There is also the possibility of somebody randomly pivoting into your comp from a bad spot and so on. But it's way harder and has way less impact then a league player running you down. So in the end i totally agree.

[@TearThatRedFlagDown]

@@icyfigher That basically the TFT equivalent of your LoL team mate running it down mid lol, including the part where they also screw themselves. That's the part that usually makes me feel a little better when some idiot decides to do that, especially when I outlast them.

[@aleinrito8176]

or badluck

[@inceptioniist1113]

It's still sad that LoR didn't got the biggest card game/take every hearthstone player away. I had the feeling lots of people just didn't wanna quit because they've invested already a lot into hearthstone. Also being a card game and not being a casino definitely hurts but i thought people would appreciate that approach a lot more. I guess people want to get scammed with ingame transactions. Kinda shows this video with TFT as well :/

[@luminous3558]

Someone has to pay and nobody paid for LoR, thats all. LoR had 1 thing worth buying and that was the battle pass, all other things didn't feel priced right or appealing enough to spend on. If they had somewhat monetized cards so that f2p you still got a bunch of decks but not all then they couldve stayed running longer.

[@justinjakeashton]

More like because every expansion after Bilgewater sucked ass, the game powercrept in one year faster than Hearthstone did in three and every game lasted upwards 20 minutes unless it was an aggro mirror.

[@Sangcreux]

@@justinjakeashton upwards of 20 minutes? my guy what rank were you and what game were you playing? NONE Of the games even lasted 10 minutes

[@curiavoca]

Lor was a bad game, and that’s why it was dropped

[@curiavoca]

@@Sangcreuxthey definitely did, stop coping. The game required too much attention and was too slow for a card game. That’s why tft is infinitely more successful

[@akeemhanniford6401]

I was a free to play player untill the firelight chibi Ekko. So people naturally spend on it to get the things they like for their favorite league characters

[@nebben6470]

I've watched Mortdog's streams and hearing him say that they have teams that work on 4-5 future sets away from the current one always amazes me. A lot of planning must be done to do that to coincide with future events like Worlds (remix rumble), or whenever the Noxus series comes out. Big props to everyone who works on TFT they deserve the success. Edit: Now we need a separate launcher for TFT so I won't get sucked into the void of LoL again.

[@sinistressdreams7243]

"like Starcraft 2 - honestly all those games are dead" that one hurt as a fellow Starcraft player 😂

[@iTzSTU4RT]

Where’s Necrit wild rift update :(

[@EminNSU]

The popularity of TFT has been clear since the first World Cup. TFT is incredibly popular in Asia. It's pretty weird to me that players of the same level as me are literally famous in China. Well and overall TFT is consistently high among all games on Twitch, even though it's often two streamers that hold 70% of the audience...

[@obiwancannoli1920]

Yeah it's very very big. Almost rivalling league itself in internet cafes.

[@liqiye3611]

bro that one guy on twitch who has 17k views surpises me, no othr game beside league and some very popular games can have one streamer dominating like that.

[@EminNSU]

@@liqiye3611 The most amazing thing is that unlike BoxBox and other popular Tft streamers who came into the game with an older audience, he specifically raised on TFT. As far as I know, he wasn't popular before TFT.

[@EminNSU]

@@liqiye3611 And by the way I think I understand the pattern of popular streamers in TFT. They are neurotics with stuttering, a habit of constantly rearranging units on the bench without any reason and funny angry yapping when they lose.

[@liqiye3611]

@@EminNSU yeah i listen to him when i play tft cuz he is raging all the time and keep saying UTrash to everything.

[@clark1066]

Really weird to see this video just as I am getting obsessed with TFT again.

[@r.achmadrivaldi8598]

If you need a content necrit, you can make a content about TFT evolution throughout the time.

[@VNetFad]

Me playing TFT right now then seeing this video: "Hmm seems like an interesting topic"

[@favillionbellarion9655]

And yet no separate launcher for tft

[@blobs819901]

Yeah but there is a mobile version that is crossplay with the pc, honestly most of their profit most likely came from the mobile version, specially from china lmao

[@tanerdincer6584]

Because they share assets with League

[@velgard.]

No need to make separate launcher when tft takes stuff from league and vice verse, it saves em time

[@JohnCruelty-e9y]

Having both games in one package makes it easier for a new player to start since it's already downloaded

[@sspectre8217]

Tbf that has helped TFT way more than having its separate launcher on PC

[@Skrata]

i hope 2xko is good i bought a leverless for it

[@Akela3dn]

250 + $ skins )

[@teratas01]

@@Akela3dn atleast yo don't need buy new game every year?

[@Akela3dn]

@@teratas01 For now, yes, but it’s not a fact that this won’t change in a year. Subscription for entering the game, subscription for access to ranked, only paid characters and only through the gacha, everything is still to come. After all, Arcane Season 3 will be released for which they will spend 400 million dollars and the players will have to pay for it

[@ouroborus6951]

@@Akela3dn it wont

[@Akela3dn]

@@ouroborus6951 Once upon a time they told me the same thing about skins for 500 dollars, before that they told me that there would be no loot boxes in the League, and when the Ahri skin came out for 500 dollars, I said that after this skin Legendary skins will cost 300 dollars (I’m a little confused here I guessed right, they cost 250). So keep convincing yourself, but it will only get worse

[@GotwaldTheFifth]

TFT is great. I think their new set cycles are either hit or miss from outside point of view but also from individual. sometimes they just drop a set and if you dont like it you forget about the game for half a year. they are very expensive tho, several millions just to develop them.surely its worth for riot to keep making them if they are still doing it.

[@jipidydoo]

Cool part about tft is that since it’s on iPhone. I can use Apple account credit to buy the in game cosmetics and rolls for the big items for basically no cost to me since my carrier gives me a new phone every year all I do is trade in the old one to Apple and I get a ton of credit to use on whatever I want. Like for example my last trade in was a iPhone 13 Pro and got $425 for it and can use that on tft if I want without paying for any stuff “out of pocket”

[@Samuel-wl4fw]

The newest season is really good as well, very varied builds

[@dachosens1]

tft has the benefits of even the people who complain usually dont drop the game while have significant draw potential toward newer players with a moderate/high initial curve but a pretty low learning curve

[@maoulegna]

I may almost thing that reading these numbers now it's understandable that Riot "killed" LoR. They had truly the opposite response/success True enough, Rito handled LoR so badly that is PhD Thesis' worth writing of, but still the success of TFT is way bigger than expected

[@erastal]

I do love TFT

[@kirbydabs3050]

Omg i love your edits so much theyre always so fun to watch

[@ramskt666]

I've personally never really been into TFT until this year with the previous set and now I'm very much invested. It is a really cool game if you start catching everything slowly on how to play better. I now play 50/50 tft and summoners rift/aram games lol

[@austeyen5628]

as a long time tft player, this doesnt surprise me at all!

[@80AM.]

One thing you may not have heard, tryndamere is a part of the OTK wow hardcore guild called Onlyfangz (massive content creator event with over 600 streamers as guild members). Theres a weekly event the guild leader holds where 1 member of each race bids on tribute chests, that of which contain a number of boxes that contain mostly in-game items. Well, last week there ended up being a couple of chests that contained a new starforge PC for a member of that race (eventual decision was to give it to whoever needed it the most). Tryndamere saw this and liked it so much that during this weeks the guild leader announced that on behalf of Riot Games, they added to the pool of pc giveaways and 2 other deserving guild members were given brand new computers. I fucking loved seeing that and felt that it was necessary to share. Gz Tryndamere and Riot. I am proud to support this company.

[@somerandomdude8095]

Set 15 are definitely the soul fighters

[@keiyangoshin3650]

I didn’t know what TFT was until today. 😅 So much to learn! Thank you Mr Necrit. 👍

[@WhyS0]

FYI, right now Golden Spatular start working on marketing itself outside of China, at least here in Thailand. Many choose switch to Golden Spatular because it have more cosmetic, independent set revial (with augment), better graphic optimization on mobile, and so on. Also because that golden Spatular is not available on PC, players who also play TFT on PC or still play the league choose to stick with TFT.

[@DevilTakoyaki]

I play TFT on PC and GS on mobile. And I'm so happy that they Chibi Arcane Fractured Jinx & Chibi Isha in Golden Spatula! xD

[@Thisisnotasign]

I feel like necrit missed the a major part of the sentence. He said "biggest **PC** strategy game". That is the specific callout and mort has said many times its not compared to mobile stuff so half this video is irrelevant

[@Joshy2-SF]

Dota auto-chess was so fun when it came out. I miss it, playing the cards was so funny.

[@zardthedragon1896]

With tft I can understand the overrpriced skins because they are more than the little legends they give. What I can’t forgive is putting a better model of the gacha jinx skin than the actual jinx skin

[@dungtranquoc2788]

As someone who just got to TFT because of Arcane, I'd say the game is really fun. There's barely any toxicity, worst you can do is blame RNG. And unlike League, the learning curve isn't high, you can easily pick up the basic after a couple of game.

[@yellowbear1318]

I started playing TFT to get the Chibi Arcane Commander Caitlyn because she's cute and end up enjoying it (and spending 200 on her chibi... worth it)

[@legionfanboy8551]

I recently got adicted to tft, I even installed the mobile vesrsion when I was on a trip so I can play it, more addicting than league

[@dragomaster2422]

I think Legends of Runeterra was and still is at the same level game quality wise as TFT. A lot of people pronounce it dead though because it didn’t see financial success until this year. It’s crazy to think it has finally popped off this year despite having no Golden Spatula equivalent. As this video shows, having a strategy mobile game available in the East is what is the MOST lucrative. Legends of Runeterra is not even available there, so hopefully that can change soon and it can take the biggest card game name one day.

[@curiavoca]

Huge insane cope

[@namel3469]

LOR is the only Riot game not released in China, so still have hope for LOR in the future

[@Keelyn1984]

Riot used to report annual numbers for league in the early seasons. But that stopped soon.

[@inozamora5498]

Because of Arcane, I actually started playing TFT again (I played TFT way before when I played LoL). And not just that, I also spent a lot of $$$ (around $190) for those Arcane skins T_T but I'm pretty happy about it because i find the skins interesting. I don't like how its gacha though!

[@DevilTakoyaki]

Golden Spatula is coming to global too btw, but it's still a soft launch in Thailand, Malaysia, and Singapore at the moment. AND THEY HAVE THE CHIBI ARCANE FRACTURED JINX & CHIBI ISHA UNLIKE TFT!

[@Raven.]

In terms of Auto battlers, one can't overlook Hearthstone's Battlegrounds. It's pretty massive. If TFT is number 1, it wouldn't surprise me if Battlegrounds is number 2.

[@DamnCyrus]

I honestly wish I had more time to play TFT! It was miles ahead of Hearthstone's BGs (the only other "Autobattler" I could say I enjoyed for more than a few games) and the swiftness of every match was really convenient. I will admit that getting to higher ranks required actual study and lots of playtime to find out how comps matched up, how to swap builds, and what synergized where, but it was still fun. Sadly I had to make time for life and cut it out of my regularly played games, but seeing that they may have a PvE mode would probably bring me back into the game.

[@TheSangreT]

And still not enough money for Riot

[@RaidenGG]

I like playing tft. But my old phone can barely run it somehow so i can only really play it on pc

[@krisv6996]

So...... does that mean we're getting chibi Isha?

[@MassouD97]

She's in Golden Spatula

[@jmcb91]

MAN, the dota fanboys do not like what you just said in 3:45

[@tahaumut95]

I *LOVE* Runeterra sets!

[@euwpredator862]

7:56 how did this pass shooting, while literally the bottom of the guy’s show is facing us !!! I don’t accept this behavior from a nearby kid, instead I would correct it immediately.

[@jacobmitchell9227]

So glad they made TFT compatible with iPad. It’s how I play 90% of the time on the couch. So glad they made this change and made a good port.

[@tioalra6746]

my absolute favorite was the random champ trait from the set 11(i think)

[@JoseMartinez-qg4dp]

Exalted.

[@alexliossis4859]

kingdom are are GOAT series the steam releases are amazing

[@Pommedeterre1]

I think part of the reason TFT is so big is because it is shared with mobile. You can play the game on mobile and all progress is shared between the two. Honestly I think Riot should do the same with Wild Rift, not sharing games between mobile and PC but making the progress and accounts be shared between the two. I think its kinda dumb that they seperated the two, there are so many cool wild rift skins that could be amazing in league pc, Riot can even make a mode where mobile and pc players play together if they want, theres so much stuff you can do if you just combine them and share the progress.

[@SameSam94]

Let's say I see the latest TFT chibi at least every other TFT game and sometimes I rarely see any new league skins on the rift.

[@yuvaleliav3709]

4:00 there is hs battleground, (hs playerbase literally mostly plays auto chess mode)

[@Bruhclan69]

Tft numbers are mostly hidden because the type of players that play this game never really interact with each other in the community. They are Just playing on their own.

[@neongreenyogurt]

I wish Riot would make their own "Direct Strike" mode from SC2 customs.

[@holokom3330]

Damn , you didnt need to hurt me so bad about the strategy game situation :( I absolutly loved and played all of them - Starcraft, C&C, Civ, Aoe, Company of Heroes, Total War --- I think the issue is that strategy games always have a certain "entrance hurdle" - you can only make good decisions, if you understand the game afterall - so if you only play very casually and dont understand it - its gonna go poorly - which keeps them restricted to "pay to play" - since recruiting players is difficult. I would not really consider tft a strategy game though ? I get it why its referred too as one - but doesnt sit right with me to compare it to any of the previously mentioned titles. PS: Why are people playing anything on a phone is beyond me - if I wanna play I sit down at my Pc XD

[@crimsoneclipse0618]

Not surprised tbh, know tons of people who play tft that hasn't even touched League once. It's a great casual game esp if you join at the start of a set where no one knows what anything does.

[@sinixynta]

Honestly, they should make TFT its own standalone app, independent on the League client. They'd be able to tailor it to mobile gamers a lot more, improving the experience by a mile, kinda like Wild Rift.

[@thtguyericcc1811]

Ive been playing on and off since set 3 but this year i played every set ive been really enjoying the direction of the game

[@JsusCrust]

The best thing about TFT is that I can play on PC and Mobile. Aaaand I can take a rest in between sets and still be enjoy when I came back since no one will flame me in chat when i play really bad.

[@Rigele100]

16:41 i was more thinking like "most popular mmo when?" xD

[@navinvent]

They probably dont want to share numbers on their gacha games, because it might invite regulations and closer scrutiny.

[@tass1133]

Felt hardstuck between League and Valorant at one point.. Then remembered that we have TFT! It's a great game!

[@jayson6360]

Regarding PvE modes, I would like to see a survival mode. See how many rounds you can survive. May require some changes to 3star 5costs.. may not really be feasible. But I’d love to see it be explored

[@SlimeThe1st]

I played TFT alot with my friend, I don't have a good Pc right now but we can still play together it's pretty neat.

[@shinitai7364]

Tft is so chill I've never seen someone that trash talk. everyone just playing their own thing. Me and my friend are the only once whose trash talking each other through voice chat.

[@Dandy4ask]

16:43 oh my baby legends of runeterra oh my dear summer child

[@ryou_ichi]

tft is so big it has its own chinesse version, OF COURSE its huge

[@deltacosmic5358]

Tft is still massive bro...massive!

[@rhysy4056]

with riot actively trying to kill my main (yuumi), I moved to tft about a year ago and not looked back since

[@EnterTheOrb]

Wish they add a trade/ barter mechanic between players

[@HaskelltheRaskel]

i love tft i just started playing this set bc of arcane i never liked league but LOVED arcane so much i wanted to play league realized i still hated it and tried tft and i have been no lifeing it for weeks in my first set im gold 1 hopefully platinum 5 tomorrow witch is the fastest iv ever picked up a game iv always loved card games and chess but other than pokemon this is the first strategy game iv played and idk i genuinely haven’t had this much fun playing a game in years and i really thought of it as extremely niche so to hear that its actually not it really nice to hear

[@davidhan5366]

As a person living in Korea, I have to comment that the Google Trends data mentioned is probably widely off. 1) Google isn't the main search engine of Koreans. 2) Search terms should have been in Korean to be actually relevant. In my opinion, the number of active ranked accounts probably show true player base sizes more closely and LoL is much larger in Korea which is roughly close to what I would say I experience around me. Still great video!

[@TegPi]

for a casual who just watched arcane, or just wants something chill in general: autochess is a way easier sell than a moba in the current gamer landscape

[@Puttis2006]

Where all the ruined king lore in a 10 hour video

[@Puttis2006]

plssssss we need this

[@FlutterSwag]

"alot of new little legends" where necrit, where are all these you speak of?

[@cyberrb25]

The man, the legend, has made a reaction to your video.

[@cyberrb25]

You might want to watch for any updates.

[@hoangtanthuy3947]

There is a TFT streamer in Vietnam always pulls AT LEAST 10k views, which is absurd for a non top 10 language stream.

[@faithfullkadan2969]

1:26 I’ll applaude when it’s something for console, marvel rivals has spoiled me I’m sorry😭😭😭. Saving up to try out the side scroll games from lol though as a PlayStation user so it’s something…💀

[@florianhug8069]

Mortdog really out mortdogged everyone

[@sareku8491]

I still begging for having a version of TFT in PC OUTSIDE of League's Client, I personally don't like to play in my mobile anything and I just don't play League not even ARAM

[@Apextle]

Crazy that they cant make it so tft on iPhone doesn’t turn your background apps down

[@ReallyCooIName]

Everything came out of the League of Legends Universe always have best reputation and wholesome than League itself. I'm not surprised that Riot invest less effort in LoL ans start to expand franchise more.

[@Cuskocuint]

I turned on tft when came out, but so many changes drove me to Battlegrounds HS, it is way more enjoyable to play and watch.

[@mohamedabusamra2551]

I hate online games coz my connection sucks, but Roit games are something else that i keep playing them with friends from time to time and on daily base. so yes tft, league, valorant are type of games where is fun to play them as game or two as break then continuous your day. But the new set of tft is really fun that i invited 7 people of my friends to play it, and they fall in love with hyper rolls, and tbh we have more fun in tft than League of Valorant at this point.

[@notcha8080]

i wish riot would make a storydriven game like life is strange

[@pmfsln1126]

I saw Mortdog’s reaction to this video and man I feel bad for him a little bit. This video is loaded with misinformation, backhanded compliments and overall downplaying TFT’s success. This is also not his first TFT video where he incorrectly states things too. I wish he had done more research and fact-checking.

[@melbell700]

Don’t make me come back. Iv been away from League for about 2 years. And… I’ve been happy. But between Arcane S2 and this Video I am so close to redownloading!

[@TexasCHO]

Ez just play tft and not league

[@MiguinGineer]

Imagine TFT is Competing against a variant of itself called GOLDEN SPATULA lol

[@megalomize4703]

Its pretty good to start if you havent. You also dont need to purchase anything.

[@TheTj200]

One thing not mentioned in Necrit's video is that each dev team pod is also working on 2-3 sets each as confirmed by Mortdog in his Twitch streams

[@beanosuke4633]

TFT gotta be the best part of instaling the league client😭

[@teemothsim1348]

at 00:40 i thought he was about to say shyvanna rework

[@petrasshade]

I really want TFT out of the league client and it having its own launcher.

[@krisztiankun6570]

It is a pretty short video, compared to usual for a tweet

[@derzockertyp547]

Everytime i play tft in plat+ elo i see atleast 3 200€ chibis. And i bet they own more than one