Everything Wrong With CinemaSins: Thor: Love and Thunder

[@Th3Birdman]

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[@gavinmyatt5589]

How would you rate the Marvel movies from worst to best?

[@whitewolf3051]

Birdman, please do CinemaSins’ take on Star Trek movies from The Motion Picture to Nemesis.

[@antonissa8345]

Actually in comics it's explained that Hercules changed his name from Heracles to separate himself from Hera more, Since Heracles means "Honour To Hera"

[@gwiz7544]

10:28 I agree with your point here but think it would be better if they do what invincible did have the same story but change some parts

[@justingallo7123]

Love your show and wanted to ask you a question, do you know why people didn’t complain about Jane dying, I might be wrong about people not being angry but whenever I heard someone talk about the movie they never seem angry about this fact, I thought everyone would be angry since prior to the movie coming out everyone was hoping mighty Thor would be in the movie and I thought she was a character loved by fans?

[@_The_Archive_]

Fun Fact: Christian Bale was originally hesitant to take the role of Gorr but he eventually did after his kids begged him to take the role

[@MamadNobari]

And the kids now? 16 feet under.

[@daltonthornton5546]

I just wanna I apologize for the knee jerk dislike while completely forgetting the context of the joke I legit thought you were threatening the actors kids or something here’s a like to compensate

[@bengilhooly3616]

@@MamadNobariwdym?

[@DiamondBatToons]

And that's why I never like him in the role. If he doesn't even have the slightest bit of passion, then you know damn well they aren't gonna bother trying.

[@DannyLee-zv9gl]

@@MamadNobari huh?

[@WastelandBowman]

Jane getting into Valhalla due to losing her battle with cancer isn't something I thought about and it brought a tear to my eye. I lost my mom to cancer so this movie already touched me in that special way but you just made it that much more specialer.

[@marduke45]

its something about her having and fighting cancer that makes her worthy. i think the comics go more into depth on that.

[@Yumi_Jay]

I wish they can bring Jane back, but I wouldn't know how they can do that. Might have to look at the comics lore or just make another Jane variant.

[@stellarluna1834]

The goats were a cool thing from actually Norse mythology, Thor has two talking goats. Tanngrisnir (teeth grinder), and Tanngnjóstr (teeth thin). They do pull his chariot, my favourite thing about them is that Thor eats them every night and then resurrects them. It was a fun cameo for those who know the mythology.

[@Angivel]

Came to the comments to mention the same thing, I thought that was common knowledge, surprised Birdman didn't know this.

[@CallMeSaltyScorpion]

Sounds great for the goats to be killed and then eaten and then resurrected

[@nightshade7240]

Yep, you'd be screaming to if your master killed and ate you every night and then brought you back to life only to do it again. I thought the goats were both hilarious and accurate. Then again no books matter to Jeremy and mythology probably doesn't matter to most of the people watching these movies but nice to know the mythology geeks take notice.

[@stellarluna1834]

@@Marvelfanatic3658 if you’re into Norse mythology it is. They’re mentioned a lot, like when Thor marries Thrym, they pull him to the wedding

[@MrDalek2150]

​@@stellarluna1834Doesn't a kid break one of the goats legs for that "sweet sweet bone marrow" in the Utgard-Loki story?

[@benjaminwellington8297]

I realized that you are right about Jeremy attempting to play to the audience based on how he thinks what they thought about the movie.

[@cullubbowzer8095]

Exactly. Imo Jeremy’s ego has gotten so big that he genuinely thinks everyone has the same opinion as him

[@whitewolf3051]

Which is disingenuous on Germ’s part, and that’s exactly what he is.

[@The1RealDarek]

​@@cullubbowzer8095I'd say it's worse. If he had a crystallised opinion on a film that was his own, that would be fine. But I'm guessing he's mostly pandering to the public, pointing to things that gained traction online, not giving his own, honest opinion.

[@jamesmason7979]

Yeah. It's pretty obvious that he doesn't have that many grievances with the movie. He's clearly reaching for sins because the movie got mixed reviews.

[@johnroscoe2406]

@@cullubbowzer8095 That's not the same thing. You're saying Jeremy thinks everyone thinks like him. The OP was saying Jeremy purposes tailors how he reacts to a movie based on what HE THINKS the general perception was of that movie. You can't say "exactly" and then completely misunderstand what was said lol. Yeah Jeremy has an ego but that's besides this particular point.

[@madhouse9705]

Im gonna be honest lads.... Didnt hate this movie. I didnt notice the effects were bad. Didnt hate the ending. I had fun at the movies with my sister, and I'm not mad about it.

[@loganmatthews5956]

Its always nice to see people say they like a thing rather than repeating the same reasons why they hate it as everyone else your comment is nice

[@stormagedden785]

This was a fun movie to watch. I didn't want to watch it for a while but now I don't trust popular opinions.

[@Chuck_EL]

​​​@@loganmatthews5956I think most didn't like Gorr 's arc because we are a mostly overly religious nation and they don't like seeing someone legit question a god or gods and why they constantly neglect their most devoted worshippers and still expect them to honor and worship them I think it's a good arc in my opinion, everything should be questioned

[@cullubbowzer8095]

31:35 I’d also like to add that at least for the Asgardian kids, THEY’RE ASGARDIANS. A race of gods whose entire culture centres on dying in battle. Odds are they all already know how to fight anyway, especially seeing as we literally see baby Thor on the battlefield. It’s not that hard to figure out these kids would have at least some sort of martial training.

[@DanteYewToob]

I like the theory I read somewhere that the reason Strombreaker seems to have sentience and a personality is because Thor planted Groots arm and it started growing, which basically made his hammer a living Groot clone. The magic Uru metal, the magic that flows through it, Groots living wood cells.. it’s kinda like how Vision is a mix of Jarvis, Thor, Ultron, the mind stone… etc. Stormbreaker is a mixture too and is a living magic hammer. Theoretically if given the chance it might grow into a new type of Floral Collosus with a hammer fist.. I like the idea that Stormy is basically a little kid right now, like Baby Groot… feeling jealous and enjoying fun battles and stuff. He’s just a big ol smashy boy who loves his goofy ass dad.

[@El-Gato69]

Something I JUST noticed, when Thor is giving his power (for a limited time only) to the kids, the way the lightning fans out looks just like Yggdrasil. That's kinda neat.

[@kidgrixis2164]

As a previous cinemasins viewer i find these videos very entertaining. Also the reason i stopped watching cinemasins is because i was bored of the dame jokes they were funny the first time i heard them but now they just don't land as they used to anyway keep up the good work your killing it

[@llarmstrong783]

I used to love CS. Now they're just 20 minute vids of mostly unfunny jokes

[@cjg1029]

I got tired of sins for stuff that were literally answered in the movie had anyone been paying attention

[@TerrelSam]

​@@cjg1029I got tired a few years back when birdman pointed out they were manipulating scenes for a sin. Like argue the channel is a gimmick or a parody all you want but outright lying to the audience shows a lack of creativity and integrity

[@HankingMySchrader]

The “people pushing the marvel sucks agenda now” statement is so true. Like the way they’re explaining how it actually sucks just comes off like “the superhero movie genre has been thriving for 15 years,so the golden age is automatically over because the big ending happened to a chapter of it and now everything is on the downhill”

[@_4shy]

You bring up a good point about people ignoring everything good about a movie because they personally disliked it. It allows people to downplay a movie further because they're refusing to look at what it did well rather than hyper focusing on it's weaknesses because they only seek to further their biases.

[@Chuck_EL]

Yup people did it with Eternals, She hulk and Multiverse of Madness

[@HankingMySchrader]

Also because big name content creators did exactly what you said and people blindly follow that.

[@greatsageclok-roo9013]

Same with video games. (The vice-versa works to an insulting degree as well.)

[@jlev1028]

Hey, I liked the parts where Gorr was in it.

[@matthewjamal]

Oh yea. The “M-she-U and anti-woke crowd. So annoying. Just right wing weirdos pushing their political opinions when they claim to be unbiased.

[@xanderm6090]

I think Taika later mentioned stuff regarding Korg's two dads. In that, his mom adopted him afterwards at some point. Still, should've been mentioned in the movie. Especially since in the same scene, they were clearing up info from Ragnarok regarding Valkryie.

[@Crow_Smith]

Another good thing about the quips: Dying while mocking your enemies and making jokes [or singing or reciting poetry] was considered HELLA MANLY in Norse Culture [well not manly how we might see it, more "Extremely Badass"] so quipping while in battle like that is actually pretty Norse.

[@dylankoch1757]

Sin number 185 (and this is if I recall correctly) should also include Wanda's Chaos Magic as an exception in addition to Hela's hands since Wanda managed to break Thanos' sword which (again, if I recall correctly) was made of Uru as well. Anyway, great video!

[@1Atlkid]

Ahhhh. I never thought of it like that. Kinda like how the only thing to really get to Superman is magic.

[@mackenziehunter4593]

I don't think that was ever established that Thanos' sword was made from Uru. I think we assumed it was simply because it was able to break a vibranium shield.

[@redlox2]

18:28 haha I love birdman caught Jeremy admitting he would sin the scene even if it was the other way portrayed in the film,

[@maniac7770]

Personally, I was amused by the continuation of the cameo gag from Ragnarok, as it kind of contains the implication that either the Asgardians have lookalikes to Damon, Neil and McCarthy, all fairly well-known actors, or the Asgardians brought the former two to Asgard for purpose of theatrical production in the previous movie, which just seems like silly lengths to go to.

[@Laarye]

I liked the movie. It wasn't the best ever, but it had it's moments and it did really well at showing the acceptance of loss, moving on, and accepting the next stage of your path even if you think you aren't ready for it.

[@erinclarke2606]

I go with she lost her battle with cancer. That after the battle and she succumbs to the cancer, she is deemed worthy of Valhalla. Great vid as usual. 😊

[@DanteYewToob]

I hate when people say that the movie was “wrong” or “insensitive” to make cancer jokes. As a person with cancer, who did treatment in a cancer hospital… comedy is how 99% of us deal with it. You’ll see old men making dad jokes to cheer up their wives, little kids making knock knock cancer jokes to cheer up their parents… etc. the Jane cancer storyline was actually really realistic in how she dealt with it. People need to chill out before getting offended on other people’s behalf and making a stink… because no one I know of with cancer was upset by the jokes in this movie. In fact, it kinda felt nice seeing someone deal with it realistically and not be some depressing somber thing where the movie tries to force emotions onto you.

[@Samfry523]

Gorr is easily one of my favorite Marvel villains. He is just so morally complex and I love it.

[@blinding.informalities1056]

Birdman never fails to make a dull day an entertaining one.

[@transyuri4534]

As an exmormon, Gor's story hit hard for me. The idea that you've spent your entire life surving a lie can make you angry, which made him an easy target for the nectosword's corruption. I love this movie so much.

[@johnroscoe2406]

For the people who aren't aware and are liking this comment just because you think all religion is the same; Mormonism is a cult.

[@destructo-pizzatv2263]

Day 165 of telling th3birdman I appreciate his content

[@SokkaAangLee]

​@changotv5847 I was wondering that too 🤔

[@fossilgamez]

Who said they had to be consecutive?

[@destructo-pizzatv2263]

@@changotv5847 they aren't consecutive it's every time he uploads

[@ilikewildcanines-xg7le]

what's your endgame? to get him to reply?

[@fossilgamez]

@@changotv5847 asking a question is not clarifying, thats asking for clarification at best

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

Also about the Thorforce: disregarding it entirely anyone who saw Thor 1 could've just assumed its a magic spell he remembered from when he was exiled.

[@cosmo8720]

0:20 THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS INTRO WITH THIS AWESOME BANGER! Enjoyed that part when watching the film.

[@redlox2]

28:38 thanks birdman for clearing up the Stormbreaker thing. Using established movie lore is what you do best! (Besides seemingly know all the comic lore lol)

[@jakubjanicki3989]

Oh wow, I never realized something making fun of this gods awful movie can be somehow worse than the movie itself, and yet CinemaSins managed.

[@elvangulley3210]

The movie was good

[@regulusking4299]

@@elvangulley3210t’s not the worst, but it really suffered from lack of time. This movie should not be 2 hr long and really needed to be longer. It needed more scenes to make Gorr more of a threat. His beginning was so good, but we should’ve seen him killing gods like Hela killed many soldiers and Thor’s friends. Plus it needed a tone shift with no comedy or jokes. Ragnarok had this with Odin’s death which was supposed to be comedic but was changed for the better. And it doesn’t really make much sense for Thor character wise to be comedic as Ragnarok since Infinity War and Endgame had him use comedy to hide his pain, it kinda like a reverting

[@Fictionboy16]

I knew you'd do something about CinemaSins removing a sin for not starting the movie with the Marvel logo only to pad the sin count when it shows up in the middle of the movie because there were plenty of MCU movies that started that way, and they shouldn't have pretended that this was anything new.

[@youtubeuserkine]

9:26 ive always held the idea that anytime these series makes a reference to another property, and then feature a prominent actor from said property, that the character they played was acted by someone else. take samuel l jackson, he plays nick fury, but they also make references to star wars. so in my interpretation, mace windu is played by another actor within that universe, instead of samuel l jackson. this goes for every property that is referenced in these movies and shows.

[@EchoJ]

It's been a while since I've watched one of these videos, so let me just say how much renewed respect and admiration I have for Th3Birdman for sitting through the ear-bleeding sound of Jeremy's EWW voice in order to bring these entertaining and informative gems of critical satire to life. God bless you, sir😂😌

[@timothyfrasier8218]

People keep forgetting that Thor is a god associated with lightning, thunder, storms, sacred groves and trees, strength, the protection of humankind, hallowing, and fertility so one of his powers would be a protector so here you quite literally would be giving these kids the power to actually fight properly

[@SceneWins]

I liked your video game analogy. I see it as just being “at work” for a superhero. Days are long and sometimes ya gotta break up the monotony with some brevity, but sometimes it’s go time and ya gotta put your game face on.

[@Dan82677]

I simply cannot get enough of how you spectacularly dissect Jeremy/Cinemasins' bs. I commend your time and efforts with these vidoes, please keep up the excellent work my dude.

[@endlessdidi]

One of my FAVOURITE things about Marvel’s Hercules is that they explicitly give a reason why he uses Hercules instead of Heracles - he wants nothing to do with Hera, so he literally just adopted the name the Romans gave him. So Jeremy is wrong even if sin 186 was incorrect (which it wasn’t).

[@edoardoprevelato6577]

I liked this movie. They even managed to sneak in Knull despite not having the rights.

[@ZodzillaPrime]

Eh?

[@Darkwolf523]

Yeah I’m in the minority that liked this movie and dr strange 2.

[@edoardoprevelato6577]

@@ZodzillaPrime the "wielder of the necrosword" the god of light allegedly defeated is Knull, the god of darkness and creator of the symbiotes. The copyright for anything spiderman/venom is in Sony's hands, so they couldn't call the sword All-Black and its previous owner Knull. I advise to read up their history because it's insane.

[@redlox2]

Thanks Birdman! I have been really looking forward to this one! I know Thor and Thunder was kinda Bonnie’s at the box office but I honestly rather enjoyed it as it’s Thor trying to paint a path that isn’t just “son of Odin” (aka the perfect Norse God) he has been more or less assigned.

[@caesarcesar7488]

I liked this movie when it came out because I expected it to be like Ragnarok. Glad to hear I’m not in the minority because that was genuinely a fun watch. The only thing I would’ve changed is the final act, where Thor could’ve taken Mjolnir and Thunderbolt and the scene played more to Thor’s fear of losing Jane like he did his family and a good amount of his people, drawing a response where Thor drops Muhjoller, unsure of his worthiness. Would’ve been a good callback to his Endgame self and a true test of if he has grown from that.

[@StarWarsStory]

5 EWW CinemaSins in a single Month?! We don't deserve you!

[@benjaminwellington8297]

Birdman is grinding.

[@Darthalas]

We have been eating well ❤😁. He deserves all the praise

[@ImLiterallyDio]

So incredibly happy you’re doing this video, I genuinely love this movie and it means a lot to me due to certain circumstances at the time of my viewing, keep up the amazing work!

[@mattmanjgigs1229]

Birdman you are seriously the second best part of my KZbin day and I thank you

[@jacsonater]

has anyone else just stopped watching cinema sins and just watches Th3Birdman instead?

[@NormalGuy985]

Me

[@ZenoSsj4Hero]

Same here lol

[@Dan82677]

*raises hand*

[@owenleal]

There is nothing that gives me chills more than Birdman going hard with the intro screen.

[@That_Chrispy]

Honestly my only problem with the movie is the tone and waste of Gorr

[@gradygal81]

I agree! He definitely should’ve been in the movie more

[@Mark-xw5yt]

Hela felt like more of a threat for me than Gorr did. And honestly I went in expecting the tone to be darker than Ragnarok simply because of how dark Gorr's name sounded. So I was disappointed. Imo they had a good balance with Ragnarok, but they decided to keep going in that direction towards comedy and lost the balance.

[@optillian4182]

I agree. The film would've benefited from a more serious tone.

[@craftyarts7431]

I absolutely loved Love and Thunder personally, never read the comics but you talking about that accurate imagery makes me wanna read the comics even more than I already did

[@InfiniteFury2K]

On the grind, eh? This video (which really exposed Jeremy for his hypocrisy) being announced at the last one, and the next being announced at the sentencing screen... You're on a roll!

[@JustinVanTrump]

The fact that Jeremy knows the difference between Heracles and Hercules surprises me because , I know it is mentioned in the book for The Lightning Thief but I don't remember the movie too well, but I'm pretty sure if it was in the movie, Jeremy didn't sin Chiron for telling Percy that Hercules had once wielded Riptide (Anaklusmos) for that same reason because that is also Greek and not Roman mythology

[@nathanmacrae9199]

I'm pretty sure in the Perry Johnson movies, riptide was never owned by Heracles or even zöe but was originally poseidons blade he used to turn kronos into mince meat

[@glowstoneunknown]

@@nathanmacrae9199 It's a really poor adaptation of the books, so I'm not surprised. An important factor of Riptide in one of the later books is that it's a pen with a cap and not one of those clicky ones, so when he needs to use a pen to sign a document, he puts the cap on the back of the sword to turn it back into a pen to write with. I'm so excited for the new Percy Jackson series on Disney+ to see a proper adaptation of the books.

[@nathanmacrae9199]

@glowstoneunknown same here I'm hoping it at least makes it to the last Olympian

[@glowstoneunknown]

Jeremy seems to be ignoring the Last Action Hero's solution to the celebrity paradox. In the fictional universe, they were simply recast as one of the second choices (like Stallone as The Terminator in the Jack Slater-verse).

[@danavixen6274]

Christian Bale was very compelling as Gorr. I really did enjoy Love and Thunder. ❤

[@DragonKirby]

28:19 Is the mic donation still available? Joking aside, I do appreciate you showing how accurate they recreated a panel from the comic story the movie was adapting. Also as someone who watches CinemaWins from time to time, I also believe that He’d give a win to the recreation of the comic panel since he does wins by pointing out little things that people may not notice, and others there little fun things like hugging, x actor is always a win, Beautiful beards and some wins are for his family liking a character.

[@NeonLeon02]

I know this might anger some who in all honesty have better comedic taste than me but the screaming goats made both me and my dad laugh out loud

[@GhostDreemur121]

Can I just say- I would do listen to you reading book aloud for hours- your voice is really nice

[@icebearnicho8256]

Personally, I disliked nearly everything about this movie but I always love seeing B-Man's analysis on movies! Enjoyed this fasho 🙏🏿

[@djch33zy_b4con6]

Honestly, I'm so glad someone else's feels that way: i think they should start making comic movies exactly like the books, if not tweek a small bit here and there to make it flow better if need be.

[@averagenoah]

Okay, this film for me was good. The comedy was a bit overstepped, but it’s taika directing, so that makes sense. It had a solid plot, good dialogue and some comedy was actually great. Especially the goats. They are hilarious and I just always crack up at them. The only thing I want now is a show or a short film about Gorr killing a bunch of the gods. I think it would just be cool. And btw THANK YOU Birdman. I was getting the feeling that I was the only one who still enjoyed the MCU these days. As always, great video.

[@Darthalas]

That would be a great idea; one of the lacking points of the movie for me was the fact that they didn't utilize him and show more of what he was doing and how he was taking on these amazing beings. A short showing a few brutal/ clever takedowns would be awesome.

[@Cinemabu11]

28:31 - I don't know. My assumption is simply that Gorr, being an all-powerful being as well, would just pull it back. Like if they were tug-o-war with it, Gorr's grip would simply be too strong for Thor to pull it back to him, along with the fact that fear of losing Jane is blinding Thor. The reason I say this is because both Stormbreaker and Mjolnir are Asgardian weapons and act similar in certain ways. That being the case, in Thor 1 we see Odin pull the hammer away from Thor when banishing him, showing how they can be pulled from others' hands.

[@Pikaweedle]

This movie desperately needs an extended cut

[@Gchildwarrior]

16:24 CinemaWins is gold! Birdman would appreciate Lee's work

[@infiniteshay8660]

I literally just watched this movie for the first time today and while I thought the scene with the Thor kids was silly there really wasn't anything inconsistent and I'm just sat here wondering why on Earth Jeremy can sit there and question a literal spell that we've seen once before.

[@Blacklungs04]

The movie “Last Action Hero” explains the confusion when a character references a movie that the actor is in

[@Blacklungs04]

Well it somewhat explains it

[@WesternEchidna]

While i had my issues with the film, mostly the pacing felt rushed and it focused too much on the comedy, i still enjoyed it. Also cant wait for next to see how Jeremy cant enjoy or understand a fun mystery film that gave us one of the best meme formats ever.

[@gabrielortiz308]

You're on a roll, Th3Birdman!

[@dragonsteamworks6675]

There were parts i didn't like admittedly. The humour was a little more miss for me but it had some really great moments. The goats yelling when they crashed actually made me burst out laughing. I thought they handled Lady Thor rather well and Jeremy is an idiot for slamming Jane for making jokes. Sometimes people make jokes to deal with difficult situations or to straight up deny it like Jane did initially.

[@jinn91]

I just love the inside joke of matt Damon playing loki in thor when he played an angel named loki in dogma

[@wandilezondi6401]

You’re doing justice to our society 🔥

[@benjaminwellington8297]

I saw this in the theater with my friends. I enjoyed it.

[@twichay1889]

Regarding Korg's family being "retconned", it's quite possible that Korg has two dads and also a mother. We don't know much about his species's various cultures, polyamory could be completely culturally normal/acceptable or even required biologically (geologically?) for reproduction. I'm a huge scifi nerd, so I try my best to look at the actions of alien species through as little human bias as I can. By the way, I do genuinely enjoy your criticism of both movies and CinemaSins in general. I have a very small number of media reviewers whose opinions I actually give half a shit about, but you rank among them, alongside CinemaWins funnily enough. You're right that the comic panel matching the movie frame is absofuckinglutely something he would win, and I'm willing to bet money that when he gets to this movie sometime in the next few months, he'll mention it. Keep it up man.

[@bayleygilmore]

Back to back EWWCS, birdman is spoiling us

[@Forriedude]

Dude, Cinemawins is amazing. Pretty sure he DID win that shot.

[@theflickchick9850]

I didn't think Thor 4 was great but I was stunned when I saw people calling it horrible. It's really not at all. Jane Foster's character is done super well, the whole black-and-white battle is very fun, I liked the ending- I thought it was beautiful. Plus, it's got the Guardians! It's not even close to the worst Marvel movie and I do not understand why people hate it so badly.

[@kgmaster9421]

hey birdman i want to thank you for getting me into collecting comics.

[@Th3Birdman]

Welcome to the family :)

[@kgmaster9421]

@@Th3Birdman thanks, in 2019 it was one of your older vids, can't remember sadly but after collecting x files comics and Indiana jones comics i found out my pops was a big collector in the phantom comics he had the entire collection starting all the way back in 1940s he had to make money and Regets throwing them away, so this year on his birthday i went finding some and gifted him he was extremely grateful , i guess comic books was in my blood the entire time but you made it spark for me , so i collect any second hand comic i come across, like ghost rider, x men etc.

[@Cinemabu11]

​ ​@kgmaster9421T that's pretty sweet what you did for your father.

[@kgmaster9421]

@@Cinemabu11 grandpa 😆 but thanks

[@greycegordon1597]

Two videos in a row. Such a good time

[@JoshMc420]

Good morning Th3Birdman thanks for another upload

[@gradygal81]

Wow this is the earliest I’ve ever been! I really like your vids! You’re not only funny, but factual. Awesome work!

[@LordHayabusa85]

20:58 I just wanna add something here for clarification on a misconception Marvel has about Norse mythology: Aesir gods are no different from humans in the sense of afterlife. Aesir do not get to just automatically go to Valhalla when they die just because they are Aesir. The reason those of us who do research know this is because Hodor accidentally murders his brother Baldur, and Hodor is then executed for his crime, both he and Baldur are sent to Helheim. They are sent there because they didn’t die honorably in battle.

[@Basarius]

12:12 hey I'm in this video! Neato.

[@fkeyae4217]

The thing you said about Ragnarok was spot on I never liked that movie and hearing people complain about the MCU humor nowadays like they aren’t just copying Ragnarok makes no sense

[@alexa.english174]

Hey man, I feel like the movie might have worked a lot better had they made Gorr more of a sympathetic character. Its pretty weird that he would kidnap and terrorize a group of kids after the recent death of his daughter. Great video nonetheless

[@Quezanater]

If he can't have kids, no one can

[@lisagaughan7154]

Well, it wasn't really recent.

[@jamesmason7979]

Gorr was corrupted by by the sword and his daughter's death wasn't recent. His god butchering took centuries Also: compared to his comic counterpart, he was pretty sympathetic. In the comics he hadn't been corrupted at all.

[@RealFrinata]

Gorr was tainted by the blade he was basicly forced to wield. He went on a crusade against the gods, all in an effort to get to Stormbringer, go to Eternity, and then wish the gods all dead. It was clear he wasn't thinking straight. When they got there, he could of wished it without hesitation, but it was clear that when he got to Eternity to make his wish, the reality of what he had done was catching up with him, leading him to look to Thor, and he then made his choice, being himself in full once more.

[@regulusking4299]

I really felt Gorr needed more time. Give us scenes of him killing the gods instead of it being off screen to really highlight how threatening he is. Hela felt more threatening bc we actually see her kill people and those close to Thor. Gorr had so much potential and his beginning I felt was perfect. And one thing this film needed was a tone change to be serious. Just one genuine scene with no jokes or anything. Ragnarok had this with Odin death which was originally going to be comedic but was changed. I didn’t feel that with Love & Thunder. This film really needed more time as 2 hr I don’t think works for MCU films these days

[@juliaboskamp9666]

you are spoiling us this week with your videos Th3Birdman

[@Kizit]

Love this vid! And I love that clip around 16:05 I agree I think the MCU does a good job of showing comic audiences exactly the difference between the books and the movie’s storyline . It truly makes it feel like the MCU is just another universe in all of Marveldom. Like the biggest difference between the comics and the movie can be summed up in that image of the fallen god. Korg is there lol. Another example would be Tony leading Peter into a room of reporters like doing a perfect segue into the scene from the civil war comics but Peter walks away instead. Long comment but I totally get and agree with your point :)

[@marcusfjeld8694]

Pretty sure I've said this before but may I add that Thor being "overly" comedic works in this because he is a literal God who seemingly can't be killed (yes he can be but it rarely has come close to that) this movie shows he now knows he doesn't have to take anything seriously cause when shit hits the fan he can easily wipe the floor.

[@cakefete2]

The joke about Jeremy being created in a lab in Wuhan is top shelf. 😂😂😂 You have the insight to critique comedy since you can write comedy.

[@JakeTylenol]

10:03 THANK YOU

[@AnimatedCarl]

Gotta love the Birdman one-two punch of uploads. Excited as heck for Glass Onion.

[@HoneyM1lkart]

I liked the basic plot of the movie, though it felt, overdone ig? They tried to recreate what they did with Ragnorok but did a little too much. It was still a sweet movie, though.

[@HoneyM1lkart]

I know absolutely no one cares. I just needed to put this out there.

[@TheCrazyPlayer]

I don't even like Thor: Love & Thunder, but some of the shit Jeremy says is just infuriating. In particular, his entire commentary on Jane and her arc throughout the movie (including the suggestion that she somehow didn't belong in Valhalla) is so tragically stupid, it makes my blood boil. I'm glad I unsubscribed from Cinema Sins some time ago.

[@ThisGuyandThatGuyPVG]

Loved the art of Lady Thor in the ending tally

[@ZeldaMaster64]

I've got the same book for the Gorr series. I really enjoyed reading it, and seeing the kind of destruction Gorr brought about. To the credit of adapting comic book stories, I don't think they would've been able to adapt the Godbomb and the other timelines so I can understand changing some of the story beats for the movie. Speaking of comic books, anyone got some Thor comic recommendations? I already got Ultimate Thor, and the Mighty Thor comic series. I'd love to see the God of Hammers in action

[@AlexTrueCanadian]

The scene where Thor gave the group of Kids his power was really cool imo

[@Imari.W]

I’ve always wanted to ask, is that you performing the guitar solos in some of your intros? It’s great and it’s super cool and i’ve been wanting to ask since the back to the future vids

[@koji6745]

Learning about how comic accurate //taken from it was, makes me like the movie more ngl

[@123RADIOactive]

Time to grab some popcorns boys, it’s go time…. Time to watch Th3Birdman make fun of Jeremy and his fake ass laugh.

[@IronWolf123]

Funny how fans are saying the movie shouldn't be based on the comics but get upset when Secret Invasion isn't true to the source material.

[@trippiesthippie4207]

My only real complaint about love and thunder is that gorr isn't more comic book accurate but I understand why they didn't want to cover up Christian bales appearance

[@jvts8916]

Given in 2012 there were ads proclaiming "happy end of the world", naming a product after an apocalyptic event could be considered true to real life.

[@gamejester.]

Finally nice to see someone not bandwagon the hate. The movie wasn't perfect but far from unwatchable as some people made it out to be. Like you said, they doubled down on what people liked in Ragnarok. They got exactly what they asked for and complain

[@robynhood3983]

18:40 another point on this, Jeremy was around in 2015-2017 (can't remember the exact year) when everyone was up in arms about marvel "genderswapping thor for diversity points" when they we in fact making a new, separate character, so he knows a female thor is a thing in the comics. also, at 18:56 the "that was cool" moment with rogers was fine, but not Jane because of one major reason among certain people. Misogyny. Cap is a dude and thus gets slack that female characters don't (which is dumb)

[@blackthegrey7694]

Bman on a roll! We appreciate you fam!

[@docsigma]

Maybe Korg has two dads AND a mom! We stan the rocky child of a rockin’ polycule!

[@Cardiacarrested445]

Damn back to back days? Hell yeah!