Ahhhhhhhh, back in the day where you couldn't operate or know about computers unless you had a beard.
@MacStoker5 жыл бұрын
and in 2019 we have a lot of bearded folk (women included) not being able to operate anything lol
@andreiandrosoff13275 жыл бұрын
@@MacStoker A complete inversion
@EgoShredder5 жыл бұрын
@@MacStoker Hipster Beardos
@MrPantss5 жыл бұрын
Lmao!! Brilliant.....
@laz8205 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha ha
@mandh145 жыл бұрын
I got my first Commodore in '85 and it came with a free self adhesive beard. Nice touch I thought.
@fredsmith19703 жыл бұрын
brilliant!! :-D
@ordinarryalien Жыл бұрын
Still got the beard? Can I borrow?
@NathanChisholm0415 жыл бұрын
Back when drawing a circle was a challenging task! 😂😂
@sorinszabo61774 жыл бұрын
challenging for the computer itself...
@tomservo50074 жыл бұрын
compared to polygons, circles are still a slow task
@NathanChisholm0412 жыл бұрын
How dare you! lol
@Anarchist86ed4 жыл бұрын
To think my gaming laptop would have been the most powerful computer on Earth at that time.
@abc-ni9uw5 жыл бұрын
The boxes and polystyrene inserts he's lobbing on the floor are what we go crazy over finding complete these days.
@stevenreed88545 жыл бұрын
I hate the sound and feel of Polystyrene.
@abc-ni9uw5 жыл бұрын
@@stevenreed8854i can't say I'm a fan of it but when I buy vintage Japanese equipment ideally i want it boxed with the manual inserts the lot and the value is much greater
@stuartd97416 ай бұрын
I was going to say this. Them boxes are worth as much as the computers
@sebastjansslavitis38985 жыл бұрын
instructions unclear - ended up summoning Satan
@RickP20125 жыл бұрын
I’m off to Dixons to go and pick up one of those amstrad computers.
@MrIrrepressible5 жыл бұрын
Get me one while you're there.
@gbjanuary5 жыл бұрын
RickP2012 we all need one.
@abc-ni9uw5 жыл бұрын
I'll pay pal err hum I mean send you a cheque please get me an amstrad too. It is 1986 right ?
@paulweston11065 жыл бұрын
Rumbelows was probably cheaper.
@okee95 жыл бұрын
@@paulweston1106 that's where I bought my first Amiga 600
@brianm28813 жыл бұрын
"Not only can this computer draw pentagrams at high speed, but it comes with live goat, a black cowl, and a black cassette containing the full text of the Lesser Key of Solomon with colour illustrations." "Baal will be pleased this Christmas." "Oh, yes. Amstrad is devoted to ushering in 1000 years of darkness."
@davidstrange67593 жыл бұрын
You win for best comment lol
@DevineInnovations Жыл бұрын
I’m glad someone said something about that. Of all the pictures you could have drawn, why was it an inverted pentagram with a circle around it? 😂
@Spaethon5 жыл бұрын
I remember being 5 years old playing Treasure Mountain on our first home PC in 1989. It was so loud firing up that I'd stare into my parent's dark room when I'd sneak to play at night...just to make sure it didn't wake them. I remember the 3 low-pitch grinds and the high pitch 'beep' followed by all that loud clicking :)
@liverush245 жыл бұрын
Save your cash and wait for the Amiga. Not long now.
@potassiumcyanide38573 жыл бұрын
Scalper back then
@BBC6005 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if full episodes where made available of this program!
@Number-tf7ce5 жыл бұрын
These "home computers" wont catch on.
@VULTUSPRIME4 жыл бұрын
I agree! Nothing beats a good typewriter.
@foogentog4 жыл бұрын
The future is in soldering! -red foreman
@richardfeynman55603 жыл бұрын
I think you're right. What should the average person do with a computer at home? I'm not Einstein or the NASA, so I have no use for a computer.
@danlittman83695 жыл бұрын
40 years later, hi im Bod and im an android, welcome to todays show. I really wasn't expecting a pentagram.
@mcatlow83 жыл бұрын
I wish I could go back in time and try all of these brand new out of the box. I absolutely love old computers.
@MorrisseysMonkey5 жыл бұрын
The smell of new computer manuals...Lovely stuff!
@gavinpeters9495 жыл бұрын
Strange to see that you can drop the programme an email back in 1985
@MrPantss5 жыл бұрын
I remember those days where my google was me going to town on the train, buying a magazine, reading and making a decision....
@Mike.Nov515 жыл бұрын
Dirty Alex they dumbed us down...we need to know nothing
@MrPantss5 жыл бұрын
Mike Speed lol
@mrs.renata26624 жыл бұрын
_lollll, im 32 and I dont even knew that world, I was already using google in 5th grade, and by the time I was 13 I was already having sex cam, lol, and yes, im already on my 30's, people dont realise this but we are already inside this world, to think the year 2000 is already 20 years old!!!! and we are closer to the year 2030 than 2008..... and yes, this is why my generation is so accepting of weird things, cause we know no better, and it will be worse in like 15 years, I can totally picture dudes wearing wigs and having public sex and wearing masks and furry costumes on the street, and anything created will be accepted, even if they manage to make hybrids of human and animatronic, or some other weird shit like bringing actual monsters to life, until our world becomes too fuking weird, worst is we will still accept it and actually create human rights for monsters, lol omg, Nicola Tesla once said "be aware humanity will create the most horrendous u can ever think"_
@christineayres70945 жыл бұрын
£400 in 1980 equivalent to £2000 in 2019 money ,crazy expensive
@Kaisersozze5 жыл бұрын
That makes me feel better about just buying a new macbook pro
@tjfSIM5 жыл бұрын
not really - you'd pay about the same for a cutting edge desktop PC these days.
@christineayres70945 жыл бұрын
@@tjfSIM lol yeah but I wouldn't call an Amstrad cutting edge even in 1980 lol
@tjfSIM5 жыл бұрын
@@christineayres7094 Ha ha yes true :)
@christineayres70945 жыл бұрын
@@tjfSIM lol yeah , I remember the first proper PC my family ever had, my uncle who owns and manages his own building company needed a PC to do all the admin and accounting work , he bought a Compaq PC cost him £2500 including a CRT monitor in 1994 also he had internet connection which was so rare in the UK in 94 ,as a kid I was amazed what it could do ,but that same PC today would not have 1% of the computing power of a modern PC lol
@gbjanuary5 жыл бұрын
Rather have that computer than a tablet. QL would be my choice ✅
@raccoon8742 жыл бұрын
*"This computer draws circles, therefore it wins.*
@jareknowak87125 жыл бұрын
Sublimal message in this one.
@richardmorris48423 жыл бұрын
Sorry, at 8:52, is that the Guy Kewney who was not interviewed by the BBC years later, when the BBC famously interviewed the wrong Guy and interviewed Guy Goma who was there for a job interview? I’m 99% sure it is.
@mseven13615 жыл бұрын
How does that scoring system work, some are out of 25 and some were out of 5, it's like they were coming up with scores to purposely make a specific computer win.
@fredjones1005 жыл бұрын
It did actually make some sense... the part that counted for most was the amount of software/peripherals available for the machines. Sound capabilities for example were far less important for most people (but not for all, hence his disclaimer at the end) hence only contributing 5 points or whatever to the overall score.
@discotek11985 жыл бұрын
exactly what i thought, this is bullshit scoring
@blairansellfraser4 жыл бұрын
Processing speed got a maximum of 4 points, whereas crappy Addons got up to 20 points....sound fair right?
@fredjones1004 жыл бұрын
@@blairansellfraser Yes, it does - at that time several machines came out with great specs but were effectively useless since there was virtually nothing you could do with them except write your own software. There was a lot to be said for a machine with average specs but with a wide range of software and hardware available to make it actually useful
@eddieedward19862 жыл бұрын
I love how they have to come back later while they load.
@chmoduk5 жыл бұрын
I bought the Amstrad from a mate back in the 80s, really good and fast basic interpreter. Excellent colour monitor.
@devinharris92844 жыл бұрын
4:22 Ahhh, what a good way to demonstrate a computer's graphical abilities
@emanuel_soundtrack Жыл бұрын
unbelieveble
@MrRiz1574 жыл бұрын
I remember my father buying me and brother amstrad 64, thought we were the luckiest kids in the world. Would only take 15 mins to load a game! The worst part was the game would crash whilst loading and you would have to start from the beginning again.
@Eon1192 жыл бұрын
It was like that on most platforms loading from cassette 😆
@JamesChurchill Жыл бұрын
And on the C64 when loading from disk!
@petercortens60193 жыл бұрын
Weird times ... You had an amiga at home and in school you had to work on a mini computer from the '70s which accepted 1 character every 3 seconds
@markwrightrf5 жыл бұрын
Excellent. More please! Gotta love Tony Bastable
@markorollo.2 жыл бұрын
the year before i started senior school, had two spectrums and two amigas in those days, my favourite computer at school was actually just a word processor, one of those Amstrad PCW8256 computers, i get the nostalgias every time i see one of those lol.
@0000-q1h5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of running a computer jumble stall at Middle school around 1995. A guy donated an early 80s 286 IBM. Remember him saying it was £4000 new. Nobody bought it
@nileshK92404 жыл бұрын
Will buy the BBC in the upcoming Amazon sale! Thanks for the review!
@bid842 жыл бұрын
These are old tv programs uploaded to KZbin, none of these PCs are available new anymore
@Chillmax5 жыл бұрын
I remember the computer room at school, full of BBC computers - the doors were always locked & I don't remember ever seeing anyone in there ;-).
@irishboer71245 жыл бұрын
Me too..
@eddieedward19862 жыл бұрын
We had an acorn on a trolly.
@klin1klinom5 жыл бұрын
When your keyboard controller is good enough for all your computing needs.
@chobbler5 жыл бұрын
Folk will look back at the technology we got now in 30 odd years time and laugh.
@zatozatoichi79203 жыл бұрын
Tbh laughter in this case means ignorance. : /
@97channel4 жыл бұрын
Guy Kewney. Doing his best, bless him. A mix up lead to him being there instead of the well respected technology expert Guy Goma.
@chrisfreemesser57075 жыл бұрын
On the coffee table in front of them sits an Atari 800XL with a 1050 disk drive. Not included in their benchmark tests as it would have won :D
@meropealcyone4 жыл бұрын
2020: ZX-81 completes the circle drawing program
@eddieedward19862 жыл бұрын
£400 in the 80's holy fuck. My mam and dad bought a 4 bedroom house in 85 for £12000.
@adamran75335 жыл бұрын
Guy Kewney is the person who the bbc famously got mixed up with Guy Goma in 2006!
@jom11644 жыл бұрын
We had the Amstrad CPC 664 with the colour monitor and built in disk drive and an external tape deck for tape games, not as well known as its 464 brother but still good. Great games in their day (The scout steps out, dizzy island, harrier attack etc) but it was a pain when a game crashed whilst loading and you’d have to rewind the tape and start again.
@sbrazenor22 жыл бұрын
I wonder what these guys would think about something like a modern computer. If they were to be transported from the time of this show to a current situation with current hardware, I can only imagine how shocking the difference would be. 10-bit per channel HDR graphics with ray tracing, just about any level and layering of sound, countless applications and peripherals of high quality, thin and light laptops that you can bring anywhere, etc. And then smartphones would make their heads explode! Such power and capability all in a form factor that fits into a pocket would almost seem like magic to them. 🤣
@IamHedgehog5 жыл бұрын
No Commodore? Shocking
@Nine-Signs5 жыл бұрын
@bike wheel commodore was cheaper, but it seems this review was only regarding British manufacturers. Commodore was a yank rival and the thatcher government had piled a fair amount of subsidy into the BBC Micro.
@IamHedgehog5 жыл бұрын
@@stevenjoy3537 totally agree
@Inaflap5 жыл бұрын
@@stevenjoy3537 For gaming... but it wasn't better for learning to code. All three of those machines had good versions of BASIC as standard. The QL had 128K RAM (expandable to 896KB). It also had a Motorola 68008 clocked at 7.5MHz, rather than a 6510 running at 1MHz. Oddly it still managed to be about half the speed of the BBC micro running BASIC. The BBC micro would be my choice if I wanted to write BASIC code. It had a 6502 running at 2MHz (double the pace of the C64), but also had a very efficient BASIC interpreter with an in-line assembler. What the BBC micro lacked was RAM (just 32K). Programs that used high resolution graphics really needed to be multi-load, but at least the disk drives available were much better than the tardy Commodore 1541. The C64 was my choice for arcade games at home, but I learnt more on the Beeb and Sinclair machines.
@hobanagerik4 жыл бұрын
The C64 SID chip would have wiped the floor with them on the audio tests.
@ReginaTrans_4 жыл бұрын
_suddenly I wonder what it was like to Cruise in the 80s......_ 🤔
@robertcraane79105 жыл бұрын
Hardware Unboxed, GN,.... Eat your heart out! Benchmarking Masters here!!!!
@tonyjones94425 жыл бұрын
Notice how the program assumes the view has a brain and doesnt try to fill us with pc bs.
@MacStoker5 жыл бұрын
and that computer uses binary....not NON BINARY ;-)
@tonyjones94425 жыл бұрын
@@MacStoker may we could get some Fortran (for trans) programs!
@gnuemacs11665 жыл бұрын
tony jones yep
@TheStevenWhiting2 жыл бұрын
1:07 "Long in the tooth" funny that as we had a room full of them when I started high school in September 1987. Was the IT class or whatever it was called back then. They lasted a year, I don't remember them being there anymore in 1988, the lessons ended in 87 I believe and they were all ripped out. The room became part of the CDT room, where we'd be taught "technical drawing".
@MacStoker5 жыл бұрын
yeah but which one played Manic Miner the best?
@Inaflap5 жыл бұрын
The Tatung Einstein.
@Kilmore505 жыл бұрын
I had a Amstrad 464 colour, and the only one in my town to have a colour computer system. We had friends we never knew we had, looking through the window and staring at it lol
@justsaying94833 жыл бұрын
This is not that long ago really, it’s amazing how much things have changed
@gdparry27275 жыл бұрын
Presenter: So... was there any point in that? Bet he still wouldn't have a clue if he was given 1:1 walkthrough
@1697djh5 жыл бұрын
How interesting. How would they benchmark today?
@Robert_Manners5 жыл бұрын
All these will have been on 8 bit CPUs too, right?
@paulanderson795 жыл бұрын
The QL used Motorola 68008 series with 8 bit data bus but 32 bit address bus.
@Leesin67674 жыл бұрын
When things were made to last, my Amiga 1200 still works to this day. Breath on a PS4/Xbox One and watch it malfunction
@stephencooley5523 Жыл бұрын
I still have my Amiga 1200 in a tower but all the disks are failing (I like to load from disk and not micro SD card to use it as I would of back in the day) so to say old stuff was built to last to the biggest bull I ever heard. Lots of companies like Amstrad made stuff to fail so you have to go out and buy new stuff sooner meaning they get more money back in the 80's and 90's. My Amiga 1200 is on it's last legs as it is and its done this well to last this long.
@petermitchell63485 жыл бұрын
The designers of the BBC Micro went on to design the ARM processor.
@Hellwyck5 жыл бұрын
you mean Acorn, since it's an Electron.
@petermitchell63485 жыл бұрын
@@Hellwyck What has the Electron got to do with this?
@ChazM0035 жыл бұрын
So in judging the graphics, you don’t look at screen resolution or color depth, but rather how easy it is to draw a circle on the screen?
@Kelvin_Chijaka5 жыл бұрын
🤣
@DizzyDooDar5 жыл бұрын
Was that the title screen to Roland in the Caves when they did the sound test on the Amstrad? 😂
@NewMinority5 жыл бұрын
I don’t like the result of the final tally . I demand a people’s tally vote
@stuartd97415 жыл бұрын
Indeed or a confirmatory tally vote. I believe the presenter is biased towards computers 🙂
@Plus_P_Plus4 жыл бұрын
“Until computers can understand speech or thought...”
@zekezero123455 жыл бұрын
As 12yr olds, my friend and i tried to 'fix' his Amstrad with a screwdriver after it failed to load Harrier Attack. (My ZX Spectrum 48k never broke).
@robn9735 жыл бұрын
Ah, Harrier Attack. Fond memories.
@spearce395 жыл бұрын
My dad helped me upgrade our spectrum from 16k to 48k so I could play harrier attack but manic miner was my real addiction.
@zekezero123455 жыл бұрын
Eugene's Lair!
@bennymalone5 жыл бұрын
Great game!
@Phil-Sands Жыл бұрын
I have apart from a PC, several Specrtum 48k's, a ZX81, an Acrorn Electron, Spectrum+2A, Amstrad CPC464 and an Amiga A1200. I used to buy Personal Computer World magazine and infact advertised software with them but reading the magazine as a whole, I never read the benchmarks as they were boring to me. 😊😊
@mrtiff995 жыл бұрын
Cwooor fwooooooor! 1980's pooters fresh out of the box! Wwwooooor!
@jeffross54245 жыл бұрын
wow!...we've come a LONG way since then
@ModMokkaMatti5 жыл бұрын
a long way in the wrong direction.
@supernick20725 жыл бұрын
What's its superposition score?
@razeustrander3 жыл бұрын
Ideal Benchmark Machine: Can it run Crysis with full raytracing?
@SheepOnMintSauce5 жыл бұрын
Guy Kewney, or Guy Goma?
@michaelstoliker9715 жыл бұрын
Tests three British computers...has an Atari and Disk Drive on the table in front of them. Running the screens with the teleprompter no doubt.
@mickyeverton5 жыл бұрын
Computers!! They will never take off!! 😉😉😉
@geoffjoffy5 жыл бұрын
I need one of these NOW!!
@Al8lack2 жыл бұрын
Could this be the world's very first unboxing video? :-)
@nazb335 жыл бұрын
Wow. I remember the old Prestel. Great Times. Great Beards
@Pirosbor5 жыл бұрын
What is Prestel, if you don't mind answering? Something akin to email, I presume, but '7776' hardly resembling an email address!
@nazb335 жыл бұрын
@@Pirosbor Prestel is pre-personal home computer. It is similar to connecting to the Internet via the telephone line but could be connected straight into the TV for viewing. Instead of links, you could access pages by punching in the page number on your remote control or on a keypad. UK TV channels used to provide news in a similar way using Prestel called Ceefax on the BBC and Oracle on the ITV platform. You could do everything like view the news and weather to preparing for flights and holidays. You can get the full rundown on Wikipedia when you punch in Prestel. I remember those days fondly of fax/telex/telegram/Prestel when calls were charged by the distance collecting the call and the time spent. Nowadays landline and mobile phone tariffs offer free calls and apps to communicate at any time but no one communicates. Back in the day, making a call was an event and everyone wanted to communicate with each other. Access to information in the UK was only supplied on two TV channels in the 70s and we survived. The "snowflake generation" of now would never know what it's like to wait for information, waiting for a call, reading a map etc...... Sorry, my rant is over..... I had fun walking down Memory Lane then..... Obviously I couldn't drive back then 😉🤩. I hope I was able to give you the details on Prestel before I went off on a tangent 👍🏾
@TheSudsy3 жыл бұрын
how much would those "Boxes" be worth now - minters ?
@sampa83784 жыл бұрын
4:36 Why are they drawing pentagrams within circles on these things?
@lampshade93235 жыл бұрын
I would take the C64 and then just get an amiga
@Inaflap5 жыл бұрын
Just wait for the Raspberry Pi Zero, and get it free on the front of a magazine.
@joojoojeejee60585 жыл бұрын
I DID take out the C64 and then just a PC. ;)
@jamianspenceley67655 жыл бұрын
Did I hear right a 'BUILT IN MODEM' wow 1985.
@SmoothEmJay4 жыл бұрын
Blimey if you're tired and can't sleep, this is well worth playing. That said, the CPC wins by miles.
@AnthonyChara5 жыл бұрын
I bet Thames were peeved the BBC micro ranked top in the benchmarking!
@callumbush25 жыл бұрын
Oh my how the world has changed!
@gbjanuary5 жыл бұрын
Callum Bush time machine is needed more than ever 😂😂
@syteanric18685 жыл бұрын
The bbc Micro B 32k was my familys fiest ever computer. My dad got it in 1984 when i was 3. The family got rid of it 18 years later.... i was gutted! So many happy childhood rainy days on it... I miss it still
@ForeverNeverwhere12 жыл бұрын
I still miss mine, around 1995 my brother and dad tried fixing the sticky space key, it never worked again. I played huge amounts of Elite on it. Tapping away buying side lasers to build funds up as there was a bug that added credits to your account if you already had one.
@spritemon983 жыл бұрын
What's a micro drive?
@derekthesec4 жыл бұрын
I was only a few months into the Acorn Electron.
@stephencooley5523 Жыл бұрын
An underrated computer. Had the Acorn meet it deadline release of Christmas 82 it would of probably gone on to have a lot more successes than it did.
@SedriqMiers5 жыл бұрын
Dammm i had an Amstrad back in the day. good times.
@magicknight84125 жыл бұрын
Lets totally skew it to the BBC by giving it a million points for one section.
@straightpipediesel2 жыл бұрын
But he was right and that’s why none of these computers exist anymore. Bill Gates was smart and realized it: with software basically all the cost is fixed, so the most popular computer or program will dominate the market.
@dodgydruid2 жыл бұрын
My cousin was producer for this amongst Thames stuff he did.
@mollyfilms5 жыл бұрын
Sod the computers, I’m more worried about the plastic dead plants in the studio.
@anitarose11225 жыл бұрын
Awesome! What will they be like in 2100?
@craigover18735 жыл бұрын
Anyone questioning how the QL can draw a circle sooo much quicker than the others yet be slower at the undefined maths test?
@paulanderson795 жыл бұрын
Sinclair put some simple drawing routines into ROM so the arithmetic was done directly in machine code. Undefined maths test will be multiple ROM calls from the BASIC interpreter.
@UKVampy11 ай бұрын
The QL was restricted by its data bus if I recall correctly.
@tylerdurden46084 жыл бұрын
Imagine let him play GTA V in 4K just after he did this review.
@MIKandJEAN9 күн бұрын
I preferred the under dog.. The Commodore C16 & Plus4! 😂👾😂
@Derek000884 жыл бұрын
*_8:25_**_ why is everyone too terrified to show their bulges in the 80's?_*
@BruceWayneOfOz2 жыл бұрын
Ah, the 80s! My first computer with Windows 3.1 and a dot matrix printer! $1900!!!
@RWL20122 жыл бұрын
Windows 3.1 came out in 1992.
@DarkLight7485 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the IBM out in 1985? Or wasn't that a "home computer"?
@stephencooley5523 Жыл бұрын
The IBM 5150 was released in 1981 and is what all PC's are still based on as it was easy to clone (meaning people built there own versions of the 5150 computer using the 5150 computers architecture) as IBM did not patent a lot of the 5150 computer parts because IBM had to rush it's release as to not fall behind in the computer race. By 1985 people would of had IBM computers in their homes (IBM computers were very expensive) so it was a lot more likely that people had clones of the 5150 in people's homes in 1985 if they wanted to own an IBM computer. All clones of the IBM 5150 computers would go on to be called PC's.
@alphalobster80215 жыл бұрын
I started my dev career with a CPC 464. And that was without a beard!
@spritemon983 жыл бұрын
Also the world's very first unboxing
@Jimmy-B-5 жыл бұрын
Wonder if that guy is still around 😂 imagine if someone brought out a smartphone he would wet himself
@therealnotanerd_account24 жыл бұрын
Is this same guy? kzbin.info/door/4WjkLZJxD_oS_l9B3fvoeQ
@NewMinority5 жыл бұрын
On on earth did this guy know about the need for unboxing vids all them years ago
@nataliemendelsohn13175 жыл бұрын
What I love about it is how utterly honest they are telling their stories about the specs and their own views and ideas on these computers. Sometimes I fantasize about leaping in 1985 and putting my I9-intel extreme processor windows 10 computer next to these older computers, and then laugh at them.
@nataliemendelsohn13175 жыл бұрын
@Alex Only cheapskates who cannot afford Intel will claim AMD is better. It's a myth though, Intel will ALWAYS be better than AMD.
@NathanChisholm0415 жыл бұрын
@Alex Agreeded AMD is running rings around Intel
@nibblesd.biscuits42705 жыл бұрын
The computers are dated but That Music Is Timeless!
@blackcorp00015 жыл бұрын
If you enjoyed this , watch "Electric Dreams"
@brentsummers73775 жыл бұрын
IIRC there were a lot of Amstrad 464 buyers upset when Sugar started selling the brand new Amstrad 6128 at a cheaper price.
@happysunshinydays63495 жыл бұрын
It was the 664 owners that Amstrad screwed over. The 464 owners were fine.