Thanks For Asking: The Great Sportsbike Debate

Sportsbikes: can't live with them, can't live without them. Or can you? Here's what you had to say:
00:00 - Intro
01:02 - Honda CB500X
02:58 - Yamaha R9
06:02 - BMW S1000RR M Sport
07:22 - Honda Hornet
09:57 - Bimota DB8
10:29 - Super Nakeds
12:00 - Kawasaki ZX-6R
14:26 - Suzuki TL1000R
15:40 - Suzuki TL1000S
16:31 - Kawasaki ZX-10R
17:16 - Sportsbikes Rule!
18:29 - Kawasaki ZX-10R
20:02 - Sportsbikes in mags
25:09 - BMW S1000RR M Sport
25:29 - Kawasaki H2
26:37 - Ducati Panigale 1299
27:02 - Suzuki GSX-R600
28:28 - Ducati 748

[@maxflight777]

That letter from 996 owner was spot on ✅ He said: “I consider riding a sports bike to be a good reason for keeping my body in shape “ !!! ❤ Well said sir! Best wishes. I sometimes think, the worst thing about the “GS community” is being around those who have lost their fitness. Those who think it’s ok to be obese, have a massive gut and no ability to stay fit and healthy.

[@Herbster71]

The answer is simple! Multiple bikes. I have my Africa Twin for touring / commuting and an old Aprilia RSV1000 for Sunday blasts and trackdays. Won't keep up with modern sports bikes, but plenty enough for the road. Both bikes for less than the cost of a new Tracer.

[@nickrider5220]

Great reflection on biking trends. What I did find was that litre sportsbikes became so utterly competent and the engines only really felt good high in the the rev range, meaning I was either going too fast or feeling unsatisfied when being more socially acceptable. I like older bikes now, putting better suspension and brakes on them. My favourite bike in my 42 years of riding bikes is my not so standard gsxr1100 Slingshot, tons of torque from 3000 revs, handles really well and does the lugging high gears whilst cruising in the countryside surprisingly well.....and I've built it !

[@exothermal.sprocket]

I'm middle aged and have ridden loads of bikes, most of them demo rides. I tried everything and all genres. I've owned a supersport, sports vtwins, 650 twins, 1L naked bikes, toured on a naked bike, owned a Vstrom 1000, and finally went back to a sub-liter naked bike. Found that's my jam for now. In my past I've sampled crazy fast bikes, big engine fast and smooth bikes, small engine bikes and so forth. Always found that about 110-125 horsepower with about mid 400 pounds weight was about the useful place for me. I don't have a preference on engine configuration however, as twins, triples, and fours all have their place and it depends on one's personality and what they connect with emotionally which sort of powerplant they prefer. I've owned one example of each over time. The ridiculous powered bikes are hideously expensive (couldn't have thought of paying those prices for a car some years back), the power makes them rather dull at posted legal speeds, and I always favor getting the most for the money and those machines are the very example of the opposite: you cannot use them unless you have the funds for leathers, race track visits, transportation to/from tracks, and the expendable income, physical fitness, climate, parts budget, and some kind of longer term goal to live in that ethos. I simply do not. I find the 800-900cc range of naked bikes to be a sweet spot in cost, capability, sensibility, thrill, still fun at legal speeds, and more versatile than most other motorcycle types.

[@lordgibbness]

Yeah mt09 and z900 do seem like the perfect sports nakeds for the road don't they...

[@Maxlalala1986]

I’m a 36 year old sports bike lover. I only passed my test 2 years ago. Where most people would start off small and then progress onto something more powerful, I thought I’d get the bike of my dreams I’d been lusting over for for the past 20 years. I have a 2003 Aprilia RSV Mille, and a track converted 2000 R1. The thing I like about these slightly older bikes is that you really have to put in a shift in when riding them. That said, you reep the benefits and never get off the bike disappointed. Although they have a lot power, I’ve never felt intimidated getting on them, and they seem to have a calmer side that lets you enjoy a more relaxed ride if that’s what you’re looking for. I’ve done a hell of a lot of miles in the last 2 years and also had my fair share of track days. I still feel like the youngest rider by a decade wherever I go, and more and more feel like it’s just too dam expensive for a lot of younger people to experience what every motorbike rider feels when tearing up the tarmac. What a shame!!! If the big manufacturers started producing sports bikes minus the abundance of electronics that a lot of people don’t care for, I’d be interested to see how many people would get back into them, not only from an affordability point of view but from desirability as well.

[@krismachon4005]

Loved this one and love your honesty. I think we would all love to be in a position to have multiple bikes for each mood.

[@dalebridle6826]

Great discussion. I’m 63 and yearn for prior years but hours on my wrists is mad….a Ducati 2020 Multistrada 1260 GT gives me the performance & handling without the wrist and back pain…thanks for the channel mr neeves…just awesome 🇦🇺

[@EricBanner571]

L6 GSXR750 0wner here. GSXR's sportsbikes are quite comfortable compared to the other manufacturers. Add some 1" riser bars and the riding position is not far from a naked but with the added wind protection of fairings.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thanks once again for a thoroughly entertaining half hour Michael....have a sfae trip home!

[@neevesybikes]

Cheers buddy 👍

[@UpsideDownFork]

I'm not picky and happy to be riding anything on 2 wheels but I did make the jump to a super naked 2 years ago after many years with my CBR600 and GSXR1000. It was a revelation to me for road riding. The lack of wind protection helps me keep things to a sensible speed. After a remap to fix the modern fuelling affected by emissions and a K-tech rear shock, the bike was transformed into a monster that is so much fun. Several friends have ridden my bike and have either made the change or are looking to. The bargain price on the GSX-S1000 was what really tempted me to go on a few test rides. Not a perfect bike from the factory but a couple of mods and it's all good now 👍

[@leebrown4321]

Hi, and thanks for your great videos, I am a disabled rider and only have the use of my left arm due to a bike crash in 1989 on a 350 power valve. I have just bought a CBR 954 fireblade 2003 in blue and its awesome all you need. When you love bikes and the community that goes with it you will find a way to keep going. I have the throttle, front break and clutch on the left. Keep the content coming. Lee

[@DarR1299]

Retired early and got back into riding after 25 years at 57 and got a new Panigale 959 in Jan 2016. Was fortunate to get a few track days in while I had it. Loved it too but combined it with a Monster 1200R. Panigale in the morning and Monster afternoon. Traded the Panigale in 2019 for occasional two-up riding into a Multistrada 1260 Pikes Peak. I'm 64 now and truth be told, I miss the Pani.

[@ChasingTenths]

That’s my Wednesday evening sorted , time to open a San Miguel … watching on tele Thanks ☺️

[@neevesybikes]

Good man! 😊👍

[@markmallet922]

Hello Mr. Neevesy. Thank you so much for the wonderful videos. I have a 93 ZX-11, 2000 996S, (bought new), 1981 BMW R65 and a 1996 BMW R1100RS (purchased last year). The BMWs opened up a new riding experience (though slow) and increased the miles I put on the other 2. I will be 65 in April, so the Ducati is a bit painful after 30 miles. Will not give it up for anything. Sports/Super bikes will always be my favorite, but the Beemers make it easier to do more miles. Wish I could swing a V100, but 4 bikes are plenty and will not sell anything I have. Keep up the great work! Always looking forward to your reviews, riding tips, etc. Sorry about the late reply.

[@MalShakur]

I'm in the "admitted defeat" camp. Been on sportbikes for 20+ years street, track, and race. Finally bought my first sport tourer, a Suzuki GT, and I have no regrets as I turn 40 in just a few weeks. I'm much more comfortable now and still have plenty of power to make the hairs on my neck stand up from time to time!

[@juancarlosrodriguez8381]

I think everyone should drive their own. Like car or food. If you don't want to eat pizza anymore and want to eat dumpling who's to tell you otherwise. I really do not get it with bike to each their own. Everybody is different but the cool thing about bikes is that no matter what you drive you are family.

[@swampmarshy]

As with many others here, I originally started on sports bikes. I'm now 58, got my open license when I was 17. Been riding ever since then. after several years of sports bikes I moved towards the superbikes of the day and the sports tourers. The body was having a few challenges keeping up with the ambitions, so ended up on a VStrom 1000 for quite a few years. The current ride is a lovely FJR1300, a very nice ride that is quite capable of a decent turn of speed, but is also all day comfortable for the aging body.

[@maxflight777]

Your body shouldn’t be knackered at 58 ! Get to the gym… walk long distances too !! Best wishes

[@swampmarshy]

@@maxflight777 I never stated that my body was knackered. I did state that the body was having a few challenges keeping up with the ambitions. However, I thank you for the amusement of your ill informed opinion of my body, and what I need to do. Having several underlying major health issues for which there is not yet any medical cure, the body has a few challenges. Having worked bloody hard all my life in physically demanding occupations, including 15 years service in the defense force, the body has been a little bit banged up. So you can take your ill informed opinions, and go and get yourself well and truly fucked.

[@sandyrollo2245]

Admitted defeat nearly 6yrs ago and gave up a beautiful GSXR1000 and bought a Triumph Speed Triple R, wish I’d done it sooner as I wasn’t in good health. Loving the content, keep it coming. 🏍️💨💨💨

[@davidmatthews3093]

Perhaps I should have added that I also get a lot of fun riding my 2002 DR125 especially on the small roads and trails around my house. It has the added advantage of making my CB500X seem fast and sophisticated. 🙂 I think my point is if it’s all about enjoyment there’s no need to have an expensive toy, it’s enough to have an accessible bike that you can really get involved in riding.

[@WyreForestBiker]

Can I speak from a different perspective , as a non sports bike fan? I returned to biking after a serious bike accident had kept me away for a decade and found myself in the middle of the "era" of the sportsbike obsession ( late90's) It was as if something akin to a cult had taken hold in the motorcycling world with everyone genuinely believing that a riding position that's sole purpose was to extract maximum speed should be the norm for a road going bike. Famous riders were circumnavigating the globe on 'full on' 1000cc sporsbikes , it all seemed patently absurd. Obviously not every sportsbike rider succumbed to the more extreme aspects of the cult but as it grew we ended up with a worrying number at bike cafe's everywhere dressed in power-ranger suits complete with aerodynamic speed hump's wandering around as if they had sh*t themselves and earnestly discussing how to extract another 2 BHP and save half a kilo of weight in the most ridiculous 'cock waving' conversations ... some sadly distancing themselves from other bikers who didn't share the same mindset and were not a member of the 'tribe'. That's the nature of a cult , it slowly convinces some to act and think in a way they would never wake up one morning and choose, and of course it always makes someone a lot of money! The whole power arms-race convinced people that they had to have the latest model every season despite the fractional (and often questionable) improvements . As many have said in the comments just as much or more enjoyment can be had with modest machinery , a good bike simply cannot be judged on 2 parameters, speed and handling .. that is a clear to anyone with an open mind on the subject. It could be argued the sportsbike era robbed a generation of discovering the true essence of what motorcycling is all about.

[@jonnytheboy23]

Less than 3mins into this video and you have hit the nail squarely on the head. It doesn't really matter what the bike is, it's about the fun and enjoyment derived from it. I have owned a fair few bikes and some of the best, most fun and memorable have been the least powerful. Long may these videos continue, they are brilliant.

[@dbakerhunter84]

I'm 39 now. Had a bunch of different sportbikes over the last 20 years. Last year a bought a r7 to take to the track for the first time. Many club guys said I would learn more on a small bike. I did 8 track days last year and got bit by the track bug. I recently bought a zx6r and am having a blast. As long as manufacturers keep making sportbikes I will keep giving them my money! Best looking bikes and most exhilarating imo. Love your content. Thank you

[@cmbiker]

Great video! I've owned many sportbikes over the years and always ended up selling them because I just felt I couldn't tolerate the committed riding position on a daily basis. I finally solved my sportbike dilema. I have 3 bikes now. A 2002 Kawasaki ZRX1200R, a 2022 Suzuki GSX-S1000 and a 2023 Suzuki GSX-R750. When my 56 year old body gets tired of the Gixxer, I take a break and ride one of the other two bikes. 😂😂😂

[@jeffdavis9236]

Hey Neevesy..Heading for 70 this year and still riding my 2014 R1 ... Boy I still have my 1983 VF750F in the shop in primo condition..Can't seem to give sport bikes up..I ride just the twisty country roads.Thanks Neevesy

[@P.DuncanMonk]

Just turned 69 last month . I will keep riding my 06 GSXR 1000 and my 2015 Panigale 1299S until they put me in the ground . I know exactly what you mean .

[@jeffdavis9236]

@@P.DuncanMonk Right on Don!! Keep riding brother!! Be safe old man ..

[@JPWest020]

This debate could - imho - have a part two. Discussing the bikes that set the bar: ‘92- Fireblade. ‘98 - R1 ‘05 - K5 ‘10 - S1000RR. I’m not old enough to remember anything before ‘92, but I’m sure there are predecessors to the above mentioned bikes. Or the popularity of 600s in the nineties and zero’s. Love these videos Neevesy!!

[@1truechamp46]

Nice to hear something good about the 748. I got one about 20years ago. I got it after selling my Bandit 600. Having a Ducati was a dream come true. Looked and sounded beautiful, rode it all year around like your man in the video. I then went to a gixer 600 k4, and that bike was amazing, absolutely loved it. I still think about that bike 18years later

[@nozzer6686]

Started riding in the 70’s, my latest bike is the best ever for me. The Ducati Multistrada 1260 Pikes Peak is just awesome and have put 18000 miles on it over a few years and will ride it till one of us goes pop, really enjoy your videos, many thanks

[@TheLeevtr]

I went out yesterday for an hour on my 23 year old vtr1000 firestorm, what a hoot. Plus it feels like a proper old school motorcycle, not a laptop.

[@ianwarren8316]

Only did my CBT in 2020, full license after a year on the 125 and first big bike was a Honda CBR650R way more addictive than the Tiger sport 660 (lovely gearbox but awful vortices shedding alternate sides at speed) or a Yamaha mt07 anyway after a year and 4000 miles on that and with my son egging me on and test rides last year on a Ducati monster, mutlistrada V2 and Panigale V2 there was no other bike to have, with a new job the demo V2 Panigale was just an awesome machine. My riding and skills have come on massively this year in no small part due to my ex BSB racer son (chasing but not catching his V4SP2 Panigale). Oh and I am 58! I’m overweight, not fit and absolutely love that I am scratching the sport site dream even later in my life and am used to the weight on my wrists now (worth it for the awesome handling) and while at the end of 7 1/2 hours of riding in a day I am happy to get off my backs still good and my necks way more flexible than it was before I rode now I am doing lifesaver checks all the time! Living the sports bike dream! Will cling to these things like glue for as long as I can then go gracefully to something else comfortable but special and sporty like a Diavel V4.

[@flippy66]

Ian Major, it entirely depends on how you ride. If you're not riding at or near the limits of your components then they're wasted on you. You only need what you need.

[@paulfowler6665]

Hi Neevesy love these videos and thought i'd add my bike history as I'm sure its like many sports bike lovers. I'm 51 now and have been riding from a kid on a friends dirt bike. At 16 I bought an AR50, Then an RD125,RG125,TZR125 and a TZR250. Back then I wasn't interested in anything that wasn't a sports bike or a 2stroke. After a few years away from bikes I returned in the year 2000 and bought an FZR600 and quickly changed this for a GSXR600 the first of 3 over the next 9 years all new. 600s were where it was at then. 2009 I bought my first 1000 an R1 which I toured on thinking I was Nick Sanders. Turns out I wasn't and the uncomfortable R1 nearly killed me. I traded it for a blade in 2011 which I also toured on but by 2017 I decided I was struggling on sports bikes but didn't want to part with my blade and bought a 390duke to test the water with a naked. I loved it and kept both bikes for a while but found myself riding the little duke more than the blade. So ended up trading the blade in for a z1000sx and recently traded this for a Ninja 1000 which is great and much better than the sx and I can tour in relative comfort on it . I still have the KTM and also own a TZR250(my 5th in fact) again as it reminds me of my youth. I love the bikes available now and I loved the different bikes and trends through the years too. As for sports bikes as well as the TZR I might at some stage get another GSXR600 just for track days but not for the road anymore at my age. BTW after watching your tigersport 660 video I was going to replace my z1000sx with one but found it a bit gutless and like you I struggle with the screen noise on this style of bike. I had a Versys 1000 for a bit and the screen noise was unbearable! Glad I'm not the only one who finds this an issue. Keep up the good work. Love the channel 👍

[@marktansell8578]

Walked in the dealers , toss up between a gsxr 1000 phantom or 1050 rs speed triple , heart said suzuki but the head said triumph......went with the triumph and love it , like my early r1 with straight bars

[@SaqibKhaliq]

I love sportsbikes. Why can’t they sell them with an option for road clip ons or race clip ons? Would be easy for the manufacturer to do this.

[@pablanche]

Aftermarket adjustable clipons is your solution.

[@SaqibKhaliq]

@@pablanche Buying a brand new bike, I would much prefer factory parts and keep the warranty. I do get your point though, such as Heli Bars.

[@davehudson2064]

Being 60 years old I finally gave up my Daytona 675 SE for something more comfortable. Always previously having Honda s bought the cb1000r black edition. Getting back to riding longer distances again plenty of power for the road and love bike. Like other comments on here tho, still miss the Daytona. That was surely one of the best sports road bikes.

[@maximilliancunningham6091]

You guys produce one of the best channels. 82 XJ-650 86 FZ-750 88 FZ-750 89 FZR-1000 91 FZR-1000 96 YZF-1000 98 YZF R1 through 2022. 05 YZFR1 Current bought used. To pharaphrase Charleton Heston, take my supersports bike, "from my cold dead hands"

[@flanners41]

Two minds......'gave up' sports bikes 6 yrs ago after 25yrs (sold the last two MV Agusta F4 and 916SPS); also had Adv bikes for last 12yrs too.....this year bought GSXR1000K5 and a Daytona....loving it; except for the state of the roads and constant paranoia of the Feds/cameras, rides are to get a fix and last max an hour. Not used my Adv bike since last August, went out yesterday on it and loved it.....great handling, good power and comfortable. Thinking the sports bikes belong more on a track these days..............

[@gordonday8771]

I'm 50 years old and still have my 2000 XJR1300SP that I bought brand new back in the day, I never dreamt that I would have it 20+ years. I still love it like the day I bought it, overall I think its a great everything bike and it still turns heads The only changes are renthal bars and laser cans the rest is still factory standard. The smiles per miles are still there and won't be getting rid of it all. Many happy memories and God willing many more to make. For all on 2 wheels be safe and enjoy 😉💪

[@liveinaweorg]

Triumph Sport 660 - perfect everything for me. Quick, light and comfy.

[@theanalyticsproject1014]

At 56 I've been wanting a comfy riding position for a few years now. However, I've been stealing my daughter's CBR500R. What a lot of fun and not so illegal. I forgot what fun it is to be in a sporty riding position. I couldn't do a full on sport position, but this is great!

[@peterwilson8039]

I agree with one thing you said, that journalists have the opportunity to ride bikes fast because they face limited consequences if they smash the bike up, and I think that makes them greatly over-value performance. I will probably never go over 100 mph, so to me performance on a motorcycle is of no importance at all. I'd rather have something small and light, and responsive. I'm semi-seriously thinking about getting a KTM 200 Duke as my next bike.

[@jesus2400]

You’re the best in the business hands down. Regular folks just want to get outdoors and enjoy the freedom of riding a motorcycle.I am 59 years young and I am looking to purchase a new Yamaha R7 why not. Keep up the great work I really appreciate all your hard work bring such excellent analysis of the motorcycle industry to all us enthusiasts. God bless you and be well.

[@mybikegarage1040]

Bikes like the Ducati Multistrada and other aggressive touring bikes / sport bikes make the “Uncomfortable” part of riding disappear. When you really think about it the Honda Interceptor started the transition to SPORT bikes but you can see the trend return to comfortable riding positions but with power and handling being acceptable for the street.

[@michaele5173]

I'm 55 and been obsessed with sportbikes since I first sat on my buddies new Interceptor 500 my senior year of high school. Three years later I bought an FZR400 and have had at least one sportbike ever since, usually GSXR 750's. In 2020 I bought a low mile '03 FZ1, the first riser bar non-supersport I ever had and I have to admit it's the best bike I ever owned, better than my '19 GSXR. But 3 out of 4 rides I choose my GSXR. After all these years I'm still just drawn to supersports and you can't keep me off of them. Today, most of my riding and track buddies are young enough to be my sons haha. The '90's sportbikes are the best for the road. They used to be made for the street/track but around the turn of the century they turned into street legal track bikes which I think has drawn the new generation to these streetfighter bikes. And for some reason they think they look cool but to me they're hideous. Someone needs to make a retro supersport, like a modern 900RR. Lower seat height, huge storage space, rubber footpegs not too high, cool '90's style plastics and graphics but with the actual bike all modern. I personally would like a modern SRAD 750. Take the current GSXR and do everything described above.

[@lrowlands53]

I bought my dream bike a few years ago - 1998 Ducati 748S - and I loved it in every way, except that maturity set in and I had to face up to the fact that as my skills increased so did my confidence and pace. It became obvious it was eventually going to end in tears (to put it mildly) so I had to sell it. It was a missile and much too much bike for typical roads. I used to race so I was well aware of how fast I could be going. I found it comfortable and preferred it to my BMW adventure bike - it really was perfect for me. Just the same, setting up for a ride was like preparing for a run in a fighter jet and I didn’t make the mistake of riding when I was feeling under par as it could easily bite unless I was sharp. Letting it go was the hardest thing I’ve ever done and I doubt I’ll ever ride anything as exciting ever again. At the moment I have no bikes, but am on the lookout for something special - maybe an 80s two stroke!

[@xl447]

Loved my 30yrs of sportsbike ownership. Currently enjoying breathing new life back into a K3 Gixer Thou with modern suspenders, Nitron & Ktech internals, Brembo upgrades etc. Grown up riding 90's bikes and followed a similar outlook of two wheels to you Michael. 👍

[@ragerider6283]

Great vid. Really interesting & thought provoking as ever. I'm hoping the R9 works out so that other manufacturers follow suit....I'm looking at you & your GSXR750 Suzuki! I'm also very impressed that Kawasaki have made a new ZX4RR too & hope it does well.

[@ragerider6283]

@patrickbai4708 Agreed, looks like a great road sports set up which will be very handy & rewarding on track too. It does feel like we're slowly building to a "middleweight" sports bike resurgence of sorts. I guess if you take them away for long enough, people miss them & want them back, or at least think they do. I guess the sales charts will tell us how much in due course. Personally I'm interested more in the ZX4RR on the premise that less is more, at least on the road. I've no doubt the R9 will be great but I don't ride that much & only for a blast here & there so personally I would prefer being able to use most of the 4RR most of the time instead of some of the R9 done of the time.

[@1MrBryn]

I think what's changed the most is that up until even a decade ago, if you wanted something with great suspension and brakes you needed a sports bike. Now more usable bikes have great components AND a comfy riding position.

[@verdeboyo]

Hey Sir, an awesome debate👍🏻 Cut my teeth on a Yamaha DT175MX when I was 17. I've owned 18 sports bikes since then from Kawasaki ZX7Rs to Honda Fireblades to Suzuki GSXR1100 Yamaha R1s. My second bike was Kawasaki Z1000R2 Lawson Rep, being the only sit up style bike. Since then its been race reps only for me, even toured to south Italy on a ZXR750H1 and loved every minute of it. These days I'm ripping around my local track on a 2014 RSV4 Factory. Ive just turned 60 and I ain't gonna stop until my heart stops. I love all bikes, including Harley and Indian👍🏻

[@pl1068]

Get the 1200X and put Nitron shock and forks on it, totally transforms it. For a bit more top end rush the Akrapovic slip on with the baffle removed will give you an extra 6hp.

[@nickmurray721]

Ducati 1299s to Harley softail Slim, best exchange ever! Lucky enough to have a Diavel, 990 superduke and RD350 YPVS in the garage

[@dantton1987]

The problem for current sportbikes is they got a little too extreme in every regard. The engines are peaky and dead at low to mid RPM; there's no room for a pilion; the riding position is extreme... etc etc. IMO, manufacturers should focus on sportsbike for the road. Maybe crank up the displacement, so the engine is a bit more versatile; put a proper back seat (think Superduke GT, GSXS, Ninja 1000); you can keep the clip ons just make them higher (agains, Ninja 1000, R 1250 RS, H2 SX...). Maybe something like a modern GPZ900. That would be my dream bike.

[@Midnight_Zero_]

Sorry guys, this probably going to be a terrible essay looking thing, but I'm gonna write it all out anyway. Been riding since 2016, so only a relatively short period of time. Love sports bikes and all but one of my bikes have been sports bikes. Have gone progressively more power as I've changed bikes over the years. Started riding aged 19 so went from a Yamaha YBR125 (My only non-Sports bike I've had) to an A2 Restricted 2016 Honda CBR650F. The Honda was a bit sports toury in its riding position but a nice progression from the upright position that my YBR was. Did eventually pass my Full A Category so got the bike De-restricted and it made a heck of a difference. The 650 was generally a good bike, but I did have some reliability issues and the bike lacked character. Next bike I had was a 2013 Triumph Daytona 675R, Loved this bike to death! Fantastic handling, a perfect amount of power for the road so you can really rev it out without immediately going into the Ban Zone. Wonderful soundtrack with an Arrow Slip on Can too. Only reason i sold it was cause it spent more time in the dealers being repaired then i had it on the road. Still broke my heart to get rid of it though :( But it left a big question of what to have next, I'm not personally a big fan of the naked bike position, as it reminds me of sitting at a desk and getting battered by the wind isn't fun. Tried an MT-09 but i just couldn't gel with it. Always avoided a true 1000cc sportsbike as my only motorcycle, i do eventually want one, but alongside a smaller cc motorcycle. I'd be frustrated having all that power from a 1000cc but not being able to use it on the street without risking prison time. Tried other 600cc class motorcycles, and they all just felt inferior to the Daytona, and I certainly didn't want a downgrade. So i ended up feeling a bit stumped, but eventually stumbled onto people comparing the Daytona 765 Moto 2 Bike with Ducati Panigale V2. Ended up test riding one and thinking it was the closest thing to the Daytona that you could buy without buying a another 675R or risking spares issues with the limited run Daytona 765. V2 is a wonderful bike, but insurance costs prevented me from buying one, so i opted for the slightly cheaper Panigale 959. Super nice bike, and basically feels like a 750cc, which Neevesy did a video saying the same thing! All in all, i love sportsbikes, and i hope to be riding them untill i can't. There are some other bikes that are a naked style that i like the look of, but i can only see me buying one if i end up running into some serious money. But who knows! Thanks for the vids Neevsy, i love watchin em.

[@_MotoMa83_]

in 2020, I bought a ninja 400, rode 10,000 miles in about a year all throughout Florida, USA.. pretty much flatland, roads and highways, but digging into small towns, seen culture, people, and the open roadside.. the point is to enjoy riding and riding a motorcycle safely 😌.

[@rogerdittus2952]

Interesting discussion. It's very personal, depending on the individual's requirements for level of comfort/ pain avoidance, need for power, opinion of beauty (or whether that's important), and handling/sound/engine character. What I take away from this video is: If you like or love riding motorcycles the best bike is the one that you can afford and that facilitates getting you out. I'm 62 and for me, at this point, a 939 SuperSport strikes a balance of the above criteria close to perfectly.

[@mikeharrison72]

I’ve had to give up riding sports bikes as I’ve got RA and the pain is just to hard to deal with but I grew up with them, my first sports bike was an Aprilia RS125, it was a very fickle unreliable wee bugger but I loved it, I never get sick of seeing one and still having that feeling of excitement and awe. I’m riding a KTM Superduke now which is as close to one as I can handle.

[@hartracing864]

I’m late to the convo. We love your work and feel you are one of the few journalists that are Great riders! . I’m 38 years old from California USA. And my feeling of sportbikes is that they just aren’t cool anymore because people these days are soft and compromising. They are afraid, get uncomfortable easily and don’t wanna do the work it takes to learn to ride properly. I had this conversation a few weeks ago. Adventure bikes and naked bikes are great don’t get me wrong. However just like a fast suv or Sedan will never be equal in experience to a super car it’s the same comparison in my eyes. Looks handling sounds and then also the looks you get when your on an incredible rd in the middle of nowhere. Your review led me to the zx10r se that I added heated grips and a tail bag to and it’s amazing CA is an oyster. By the way most of the guys I ride with are 50 and older. And we ride slow on the straights.

[@stuleyland9490]

I'd like to see a return of a bike like my old VFR750FV. I did everything on that, and it never let me down. A fantastic V4 engine, excellent comfort (even two up) and a proper styled fairing. I had the suspension upgraded by Maxton and also a high level Remus exhaust. It sounded incredible! There's probably little demand now, unfortunately, but it still remains the best bike I've ever owned. Cheers.

[@RoeyHaviv]

I’d love one too. I ride a VFR1200F which has more of a Hurricane/Blackbird ergonomics, the new sport tourers have bars that makes the front feel a bit vague in comparison. My only gripe with the 1200 is the weight but it’s an okay compromise.

[@space.youtube]

Re: Yearning for an R9. That's why the K5/6 GSXR1000 is one of the best bikes ever made. It is the perfect sports bike that's still capable of mile munching. If you find a good one on the market, buy it, you won't regret it.

[@petetelfer1482]

Got an erion racing 929 had it 15 years love it. Bought a Honda 400/four 2 years ago and done more miles on that in 2 years than I have on the 929 in 15. That said if I take if I take 2 paracetamol I love going for a blast on the 929

[@madingahmar4420]

Hi Neevesy, love your videos! Here in India, everyone is very price conscious. Thus most of the big bike riders go for the Z900 which is relatively cheaper and more ‘bang for your buck’. Personally I love sport bikes and the CBR line. Unfortunately the Fireblade is way too expensive. So the CBR650R I chose. Lovely bike, even though its not a “super bike” the geometry is not extreme and the power is just perfect for the road conditions that we have. I take the CBR out on the weekends and for commuting purposes a 125cc cvt scooter and a 200cc tourer/commuter hybrid called the CB200X handles the mundane everyday tasks with ease. Plus there is a big boom for adventure tourers. But in the region of India where I come from, 150cc sport bikes still rule the twisties. 🇮🇳

[@jonasenoksen7084]

Man, it was always sportbikes for me. Growing up, the high revving sportbikes of the late 90s and 00s were the head turners, and I still turn, every time. Add to that the madlads that did wheelies for a kid on the sidewalk trying to instigate with my emotes. They definitely helped sow the seed. But, it took a while before I ever got my license (30s), and then was trying to be "sensible" with a sporty naked. I had it for a year, but realized it did not feel right, did some mods to make it look and sound sportier, but no. A bit back and forth but now owning the the perfect bike, all black (and very sexy): 2014 GSX-R 750. Absolutely love it, knee, wrist and back pain and all, wouldn't swap it for anything.

[@pablanche]

I love all motorcycles and I am happy that we have so many types to choose from. No one is forcing anybody to ride on a sportbike if they don't like the position, or feel it is too much power. Leave the sport riders alone, don't judge and you won't be judged. PS: Moving from a '05 ZX10R to a '23 S1000RR.

[@ukvamp]

I just passed my full licence in Jan this year at 40 years old. Sports bikes have never appealed to me but the retros is what pushed me to get my licence. I originally wanted a Royal Enfield Interceptor but after learning on an SV650 with 75bhp i thought the Royal Enfield might seem a bit slow for me. I test rode a few bikes, Triumph Speed Twin 1200 Triumph T120 Bonnieville Kawasaki Z900 RS Ducati Scrambler 1100 Triumph Scramper 1200 XE In the end the Triumph Speed Twin 1200 was my fave and that's what i ended up buying (2021 model). Nice mix of old skool looks with modern nimble handling. Sounds great too! I love the low down torque and being naked anything over 70mph gets bloody windy so that keeps my speed down! Never tried a sport bike, I'm quite tall and long in the leg and they just looked like they would be to cramped for me. Also, most are inline 4's and the Z900 RS inline 4 didn't really grab me, it was nice and smooth but lacked character. I would like to try a sport bike one day and who knows, maybe if i found one i could fit on i might add it as a second bike

[@MrBrimsy]

Another great video Neevesy great to see you investing in your future with these vids and including us everyday riders with our questions and comments . Looking forward to many more. Living the dream

[@beanwithbaconmegarocket]

4:15 please, triumph, make Street Triple with fairings. I know that's essentially a Daytona, but I'm picturing a bike more at the ST price point and the comfort of a ST, too. Wish Yamaha had done the same with the R7 but instead we got an R6 with twin engine. For the R9, I have a feeling Yamaha is just going to make an R1 with a triple engine instead of making an R9 with fairings.

[@doug3011]

is it me or was anyone else super excited when he read their KZbin comment.lol its great to hear so many sport bike fans. if I got an adventure bike it wouldn't give me the same excitement just looking at it let alone being on it. I love watching neevesy, and his secrets of a road tester really taught me a lot. great to know im not the only 50 something sports bike fan. and I love reading about the latest sports bikes in magazines and on KZbin ..they are cutting edge technology and look incredible.

[@2wheels6strings8]

I still love the idea of riding a sports bike, having ridden GSXRs, FZRs, and Fireblades for 20+ years when I was younger. But I went went with a Ducati Streetfighter V2 when I returned to biking after a long lay off. 90% of the thrills but less weight on the wrists. I just ride for fun, so don't need long distance touring ability.

[@sanxi34]

I started riding in 50cc back when they still sold the Aprilia RS50 2-stroke new from the showroom floor. Thought sporbikes were the worst thing ever. 10 years later got a V-strom 1000, started enjoying the sporty side of riding, got an FZ6 and started going to the track and getting better. I am living the sportsbike life now. As long as I can ride them, I'll have them. Worst case scenario I'll have a track-only bike for those 20-minute sessions

[@brianpeterson9290]

My general feeling is, ride what makes you happy…but don’t assume you know what makes you happy (or unhappy) without trying it. Ditch the “X sucks, Y rules” thinking, forget what your buddies say, forget the spec-sheet warrior stuff (“OMG, it’s 20 lbs heavier than an R6!”), forget what you think a bike “says about you,” ride whatever you can get your hands on and see what you think. It’ll make you a better rider, too, IMHO.

[@llerradish]

Thanks Michael, interesting topic. Variety is a necessity to me. I don't have to have a new bike so I would prefer to buy used. I own 8 motorcycles and a scooter. I enjoy riding them all about the sport bikes are my favorite. I'll be 60 years old here in a few days my health isn't that good and I can't walk very well and I need another hip replacement. But I can still ride. Some of my rides are a ZX14R and CBR1000RR, YZF600R, Cruiser and old touring motorcycle, a 390 Duke, V-Strom 650

[@Unedited2022]

I own an Aprilia RS250 and I used to own 04 DT125RE. Literally the most fun I’ve had on 2 wheels.

[@machinehead9334]

Like most here I’ve had fantastic experiences on sports bikes but find them a bit too extreme nowadays (I’m 58 you know!) I’ve had a Speed Triple, Tiger 1050, Tiger 1200 Explorer, Tuono V2 and V4, 1200 Multistrada and am now on a 1290 Superduke GT. They’ve all been brilliant in there own ways. Interesting what people say about smaller bikes being more fun, but I just can’t imagine myself on a CB500, especially at 6’3”!

[@Achilles22]

Regardless of what the Superbike riders say, they are soooo uncomfortable and inappropriate in the modern era. That is why they are no longer selling and bottom of the sales charts. Most of us have moved on to more comfortable and practical bikes which are just as much fun. I own my 1st BMW and would not go back to SPORTS BIKES. I went for the R1250RS as I did not want to join the hoards of GS owners, and I don’t have a beard 🧔‍♂️

[@djg9589]

Thanks for putting my comment in mate 😁👍🏻 I maybe should have added I won the bike on the giveaway guys, and I haven’t yet managed to get it on track, but watching your videos and the 44 teeth guys, I can’t wait to get it on track 😁 it’s much more bike than I’m ever going to need but it’s awesome 🤘🏻

[@lindsayselby3647]

If I could go back and buy the bike of my choice , it would be a 1973 Ducati 750 sport . Why that one you ask , first off it doesn't have anything on it it doesn't need . The bike has soul , puts a grin on your face , has all the power you need and is more fun that a night in Pattaya . I have owned lots of bike in my life , I feel the BMW S1000 RR is the most practical super bike you can buy for the street , but value for money the Kawasaki Z900RS ticks all the boxes . Two of the bikes I have in my garage are a 1997/98 Ducati 748 SPS and a Bimota DB9 along with some others .One of the things I have learnt in my 69 years is that looks alone don't make a good package .

[@Bikeadelic]

I'm still all about sportsbikes, they're intensity is unmatched. Anything less than a 750 feels gutless, tbh even 750 feels slow. I 100% agree that sportsbikes need some more relaxed seating positions for the road. Personally idk why they dont have 2 or 3 positions for the seat, rear sets and clip ons so you can adjust them.

[@Markycarandbikestuff]

Cheers for reading my comment Michael, well maybe i should never say never, I'm already looking at early 90's Gixxer 750 Slingshots and 2000's Repsol Fireblades, maybe in a few years when i have the space and a few grand ?, had the V Max out a few times and absolutely love it, it's such a quirky entertaining (and comfortable) old beast i don't think i'll get bored with it soon.

[@billyboy77801]

I’ve been riding sports bikes since the late 80’s. I’ve owned a ZXR 400, GSXR 750 SRAD, 98 R1, F4 750, 916, 899 Panigale and now a 959 Pani. I’m turning 60 in July and will shortly be buying a MV F4. I love sports bikes and will always ride one until I can’t. Every time you lift that garage door it’s just a big buzz and grin how good they look. You won’t get that looking at a GS or MT10. Yes they are not comfy or were ever designed to be but hey they thrill. By the way why do many people hit their late 50’s and think they’re old. My body don’t feel any different to when I was 40. Long live Sports bikes.

[@gixxis3264]

you spoke about the RSV4 not working for you . . . . just got a 2019 Factory . . . . Weapon , keep yourself in shape , adjustable clip-ons & rearsets ; Boom

[@neevesybikes]

I’d love to ride one that fits. They’re great bikes. Enjoy 😃👍

[@shadowred1980]

Looking forward to the ZX-4R, that will be interesting to see how well it sells. Then the R9 if they release it. Looks like the sports bike is not done with yet. :)

[@tailtidy8185]

Your videos are always brilliant and informative. Your journalistic skills are always the ones I listen to. I remember when you first appeared in MCN and the 'shootout' selection which you won. Thank you for doing these , keep well.

[@kingGar27]

'Do people want to read about sportsbikes?' I think people want to 'read' about whatever they're in the market for, so to that end the answer to the question is "no" (given fewer folks buy sportsbikes these days)! But when it comes to video, I think the best video content MCN or any outlet can make is sportbike and superbike content. It simply lends itself to the camera better. The same holds true for cars, which is why there's a scarcity of content on family saloons and a load of content on the newest supercars. TV and video are first and foremost entertainment mediums. Bring back big and exciting group tests and shootouts! We probably won't act on the advice, but it's way more fun to watch.

[@JKL246]

I’m in the US and have ridden 15 years now on a variety of bikes, but none have been sport bikes. I have always looked at them, and the closest I got was testing an S1000RR when they launched. I have had a BMW K1200LT engine, however, and it ruined me for all other engine configurations, even though the Guzzi 1200 8V was the most characterful. I now have a low-suspension F750GS (fantastic bike, btw; highly underrated)-750 does indeed seem to be a sweet spot (I know the BMW 750 is not it’s actual size), and I think it is arguably the best all-rounder ever made. (I use a massive tank bag haha-and no hard luggage.) However, I could never justify seriously considering an I-4 sport bike-until now. With the launch of the ZX4RR, I am intrigued. I couldn’t care less about track riding or racing. Even though the R7 has comparable power, I have had plenty of twins, and a sport bike without an I-4 just doesn’t appeal to me. Along with the R7, the Enfield retros (also have a Himalayan, and had a Conti 650-twin), maxi scooters (have a Kymco 300, too), and many other smaller displacement options, the macro trend seems to be toward usable and efficient street power. This, with a premium engine (I-4) is what appeals to me about the ZX4RR. It’s an I-4 that I could justify owning. It would be a great addition to my fleet for relatively short, sporting rides one day a week. I’m in my mid-50s and have no physical issues in riding a sport bike. . Practicality wouldn’t matter; just the pure enjoyment of the experience at a level that I know only a sport bike can provide. The smaller size and weight makes it even easier to tow it out to where I like to ride. Interestingly to me, my 20-something son is also interested in the ZX4RR, in addition to his T120, speaking of retros. He said it’s all he would need, and I agree.

[@kirillromazenko2799]

Thank you for making great content! My question/request for a advice are may be similar to others one but… I had 848 Evo, Multistrada and now I am driving Yamaha Tracer 9. Actually it’s something better 848 and Multistrada, but even I am driving few years only it’s getting a little boring for me. I do not commute on it, just some canyons /weekend rides and few track days. I am thinking to upgrade to something more expecting, which I could ride both on roads and track. I thought of Ducati Panigale V2 but now I am living in Athens, where it could be 33-36 C during summer… so I afraid of Ducati due to its hot engine/frame. On other hand it’s a best balance of power, chassis, electronics , reliability and its design…. Alternative sport bike - r1 … but almost same price for extra power which I really do not need plus not the best brakes and not so good view. Finally I was thinking of Bmw s1000xr… but not sure how good it could be for track /canyons riding and a little bit afraid of reliability. Tuono V4 - also hot engine as all V4 and not supreme finishing…. Any ideas/suggestions?)

[@tonymurphy7189]

i am 65 have been riding all my life i keep myself fit i ride a ducati v4 bmw hp4 harley fat bob mt10 but sports bikes wins allways i just love riding them.

[@jimperry4420]

I have a Gsxs750 and love it. K5 motor and fairly upright riding position. Sounds so good.

[@brianeaston3748]

Neevsey, Great video,think you hit the nail on the head with current sportsbikes,not everyone can afford them,then add in service costs,tyres etc and they're designed for 5 foot 2inch 8 stone jockeys😄 so if your normal size,it's just uncomfortable to ride for any great distance, I started on bikes when I was a kid,running around the woods on old C90s or mopeds with pedals, anything we could get our hands on,just twist the throttle and had great fun,bikes don't need to be the latest and greatest to have a great time,it's the buzz we get of being on a bike that matters 👍

[@patrickcallahan2885]

Ive had sports nakeds for most of my riding years from my 1974 RD 350 to my 2015 CB 1000R, today i ride a 2019 Concours 14 for the past 4 years. But i must admit, a middleweight naked is probably the sweet spot for daily riding. Something like the Z900 SP or MT09 SP would probably be my choice.

[@mar7739]

The truth is: sportsbikes look astonishing, are light, turn better, accelerate better and in most cases brake better. They are also not that uncomfortable (especially those from mid and late 2000's) if you ride them around the chimney , as i do. So, although 45 now, i still love my CBR 600RR.

[@nielszwering2414]

I think that what u say is true. Because the loads of other stuff coming out and getting written about the sports sector seems less important. On the other hand. It is less important because most people love other types of bikes statistically

[@newarknomad1154]

Hi. I think the motorcycling press follow the current trends, in response to machines being put out by the manufacturers. The manufacturers have to respond to the global market place. However, it’s great there are still a great selection of bike types av. I’ve been riding over 40 years, and have owned over 40 bikes in my time. It’s disappointing that younger riders aren’t being encouraged to continue riding, and I fear, that in years to come, the riding community will decline. Even at my age, I still get a buzz from riding and experiencing the world aboard a bike. Keep up the great content and it’s obvious that you really enjoy your job, as the enthusiasm shines through. Cheers mate.

[@Justin-iw7pl]

Great vid and love how some folks bike choices dictates their journey in life. Some going full circle back to sportsbikes like myself. As bikes have evolved their is more choice, different genres available to cater everyone's needs, capabilities and physical compromises. For myself the best/sweet spot is Gixxer xk5 750 20th anniversary model. As ive owned 2 in a 5yr space says it all. Ive been blessed to be able ride/own many bikes of all types since passing my test in 1996 age 45. Ride what makes you happy 2 wheels is 2 wheels, freedom that a bike gives you is priceless Keep up the great work and love these vids👍

[@kirkdunn1379]

Peter Hickman just posted 136 mph avg @ IOMTT on stockish S1000rr....so I would agree 20% is probably about right as to what guys can push their litre sportsbikes on the street.....still though what a machine The one dude is absolutly correct for 20k you can buy what you would have ro spend 100s of thousands on sprtscar for same performance I think if manufacturers made them just a bit more relaxed more people would buy them.....2 versions that were easily interchangeable with bars (clip ons) and rearsets

[@Panda-bg5vk]

i ride bikes since i was 6 ,rode all kinds of bikes,but can't imagine my life without sport bikes,i have supersport zx6r for work and commuting and superbike 2016 zx10r in full carbon and loads of add ons in my living room(only for sunny sundays) if i ever feel the need to change,i will go supermoto,enduro or motocross,i think most boring bikes are choppers,cruisers and all that type bikes as i have tried them too

[@afandou1966]

Neeves , prolly some of the best series you've done.

[@markobutkovic5414]

Hi there . I had 2016 MT10 from feb2018 till dec2020. My first and only big bike, 1st year was great because i was riding slow ,but next 2 years was just too much, i've been in a group of riders (RC8 , RSV , R1 , Fireblades...) and the speed was just not for the road (3rd gear wheele at 160 km/h) I've been in love in superbikes bit now on Piaggio 300. Superbikes are great but in my opinion are for the track not the road. Great job

[@stekwack]

My friend is 76 and we both upgraded our previous sportsbikes 2 years ago now to the latest model gsxr1000r he goes out every Sunday during the summer does around 300 very quick miles leading a group of us around our favourite roads some of us are not even half his age. Yes by the time we get to the pub on the way home we are all sore and aching but we don't mind as we could not get the same buzz that we do if we were riding adventure bikes. Some of the lads who come out with us do have tuono's one had a ducati hypermotard 895 which was a brilliant bike for the roads we ride but has since changed to a superduke. We all have good fun but for most of us it's the superbikes that we prefer with all their faults. Unfortunately they are a dying breed for a number of reasons, mainly UK government with its focus on speeding, pollution and licensing rules ect ect. I do think that journalists have also had a big part to play in this also, possibly under pressure from government or manufacturers to promote smaller capacity less polluting models. But as we also know costs of these bikes have gone through the roof making them expensive toys really. I do wish we could go back to more road focused sportsbike like the fireblade was when it first came out, a practical sportsbike geared and tuned for road riding with space for your sandwiches or the takeaway, but at a sensible price without being fitted with budget parts like we see with bikes like the r7

[@fizzy49cc]

My solution is a re defining of the class name: Sportsbike = roadgoing, fast (150mph+) with good torque that can be used daily. Imagine if WSBk was changed to 150bhp-100ft/lbs-1100cc-180kg. For me the best sportsbike was a 99/R1 NOT my later '08/R1. I now (55yr old) ride a '01/ VFR800 (Ktech suspension). Zx10R/r1/v4R should be a class within motoGP. Finally a Sports/tourer is not a dirty word. It's what most big bike enthusiasts would enjoy but the Jack of all trades etc term, makes it sound the pussies choice. Case in point CBR1000F or even a Blackbird is a fantastic machine but was branded (to some extent) as not the 'Alpha male' choice, Nonsense. A mate went to a Ducati track day (early 2000) one of the fastest laps was a Journo on a ST4s. PS I also had a CB500x and it was great fun & is what I call an adventure bike (or maybe a Tenere700). Keep up the good work old chap.

[@bakeredwards]

So true about the lesser bikes being the ones you use more, I have an Aprilia mille and don't do too many miles on it but I use my BMW g650gs three times as much and it has 80mpg vs 30mpg.

[@mrkang4080]

Nom de Ploom is bang on with his super naked comment -- plus my SuperDuke R is absolutely bonkers, the most fun I've ever had on a bike in 30+ years and on 30+ bikes.

[@Fireblade46]

Started on the road riding a gsxr 400 what a hoot of a machine..switched to a rgv 250 then a yzf 750 a couple of fireblades 99 n 02..then gsxr 600 1000 n 750 followed by a zx6r... decided it was time to slow down a little so got a aprilia sl falco... realised I missed the head down ass up so went back to a Cbr 1000 blade...as I'm the same size ad a average Japanese test rider even 5 or 600 mile runs in a day ain't too bad on the old bones, its the earache from the missus on the back thats the worst thing about a sports bike...keep riding what ever you love but for god's sake dont buy a helmet intercom😁