That Pedal Show - Thoughts On Valve Overdrive Pedals, Part 1

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In this video Daniel and Mick take a look at three valve-driven overdriven pedal/preamps and ask why you may - or may not - want to use one. This is not a comparison of different valve overdrive pedals. Maybe we’ll do that another time, so let us know what pedals you might like to see. That might be part 2. For now, however…
The pedals we’re using today:
• Kingsley Jester (hear it first at 6:43)
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• BK Butler Tube Driver (hear it first at 8:40)
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• Dean Markley Overlord (modified - hear it first at 9:50)
Other interesting bits…
• The bonkers EQ on the Tube Driver 10:58
• Discussion about high- and low-headroom amps and how valve pedals interact with each at different compression levels: 13.32
• Mick doesn’t really mean ‘violining’ at 16:30. He just means how super smooth Eric Johnson’s sound is. He does know violining means volume swells, but his brain wasn’t connecting. Sorry about that.
• Comparison with Keeley-modded Boss BD-2 Blues Driver into the Hamstead: 17:20
• Using The Tube Driver with other pedals: 21.28
Mick is playing a PRS DGT model, Dan is playing a Nik Huber Krautster II.
Amps are a Fender Super Reverb with 4x10 Jensen alnico speakers and a Hamstead Artist 20+RT through a 1x12 Celestion Alnico Blue.
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[@bai2287]

Thanks for the support guys!! -BK Butler here...

[@crazyjoe1540]

The noise mick makes at 5:16 is fucking hilarious hahahaha

[@TheDrunkenScoundrel]

Probably repeating myself, but one the coolest things about the Tube Driver in a live or on-the-fly recording situation is that not only are the volume an drive knobs located on the outside edges, they are also rubberized and with only a little practice they are super easy to nudge up and down. Fantastic if you need a boost or offed-up your unity-gain in soundcheck. More builders should take this into consideration.

[@Br4d1ey]

25:42 Sweet Jesus! It was worth watching the whole video just for that! Fantastic playing, Mick. Great video, guys.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Bradley Brekkaas Thank you Bradley. Have to say the tones were much to my liking today. :0) Very kind of you to say - thanks for watching!

[@Brokeninc]

How far they have come since this... Wow

[@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu]

I know it's great, I remember TPS was on Dan channel

[@michaelcraig9449]

How far has what come? This show or pedals with tubes in them? I heard BK Butler is the best by far!

[@jhaneyzz]

I respect your opinion, so please respect mine. In Jan 2023 they still bumble about the real issue with their banter and their non verbal cues show how they really feel. In this video the tube pedals blow everything else out of the water. Watch this with the volume down and keep track of what they have on and their reactions. It is crystal clear.

[@philipniel2786]

Love the show. However, it seems to be primarily aimed at blues/rock guitarists and to focus on varying levels of overdrive and lead playing, and less on the rhythm guitarist playing a primarily clean tone in, say, a funk / R&B band (like me). I'd love to see a show focused on that sort of guitar rig, perhaps looking at wahs, compressors, clean boosts, amp choices etc. Thanks.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Philip Niel We've touched on varying bits of those topics in previous vids, Philip, but you're right - a show dedicated to cleaner, souly funky sounds would be cool. Thanks for watching!

[@rca3rd]

I know that you mean.Try and find twang/country/Telecaster clean type videos on KZbin.Not much there.

[@rbsams72888]

Shoutout to that analogman chorus on the floor in the upper left. Very relatable

[@garcemac]

I have an ancient B.K. Butler. Its got to be over 30 years old now. It cost $179 back when I bought it (Steve's Music in Toronto). It lasted me through my Ampeg and Marshall JCM 800 phases, and its the perfect compliment to my Tele and Hot Rod DeVille. So expressive and responsive. So fragile. Its held together with silicone and nightly prayers, and I will be buried with that pedal. Edit: I generally have the amps running clean as a bell, with just a touch of growl when strumming barre chords (ala Jumping Jack Flash). The Tube Driver screams in that situation, but it really does not "metal".

[@garcemac]

Sorry for replying to myself... There are literally tears leaking out of my eyes listening to you play through that Tube Driver. THAT is how much I love that pedal. Subbed because you made me cry.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+garcemac Oh mate. You can't know how much you've made an early middle age man happy with that comment (Mick here). I've just come away from the most depressing conversation I've had in years, and your comment has cheered me up immensely! Thank you!

[@sparkyguitar0058]

I do the same thing, run it through a clean amp. Mines old also, but I've only had it 2 yrs now. It's the 3 knob Butler with a bias knob mod. I stack it with other drives for crazier sounds. Gain is only 9-11 o'clock on any of my drives. Meat and 3 modded Soul Food and a Alchemy modded Blues driver.

[@alphamilkrecordings8974]

@@ThatPedalShow you should review the fender tube distortion. it's awesome

[@rcoveyduc]

That Tube Driver EQ is intense!

[@SCOREWIZARDSMUSIC]

A That Pedal Show with special guest Simon Jarrett of Kingsley Amplifiers would be an amazing show! Panned amps today! Sounds killer

[@rokero171]

The funny thing about the Tube Driver is that the Low control adds a little hi-end, and it's noticeable at 12:32, and I love that sound!!!

[@WhippJunior]

One of the best is the Behringer Vintage Tube Monster. Glorious tube tone for not alot of dough! Love That Pedal Show. Great work guys!

[@liontone]

Tube OD pedals definitely accentuate the pick attack more - where as transistor ODs soften it a bit. Being both an owner of a Kingsley Minstrel (and Constable) and various trans pedals like the Nobels ODR-1, and Dover Drive, I would probably always choose the ODR-1 for pop oriented rhythm and fills, due to their ability to be in the background. The tubes just pop out, are more aggressive, and dynamic - and are really more useful for major solos, and Steve Cropper style lines. One isn’t better than the other, but definitely different.

[@RedElephantStampede]

Love my BK Butler Tube Driver!

[@jflaherty01]

I've struggled with my Tube Driver for 4 years. Now I think I get it it. Great show guys, thanks. The only 30 minute pedal demo show that I consistently watch in its entirety regardless of the demo. Best tone instruction on the webernet. I'd even wear your shirt!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Jason Flaherty Thank you Jason - that is praise indeed!

[@darwinsaye]

Something important I learned from a Joe Perkins video earlier this morning: Valve overdrives pedals such as the BK Butler are NOT getting the drive sound from the valve at all, but rather from an Op amp clipping *before* the signal gets to the valve. The valve is only getting enough voltage to add some "tube warmth" (sag) to the signal. Apparently this is the case with any 9volt valve overdrive pedal, as 9 volts power is not enough to drive a 12Ax7 which are commonly used. There are pedals such as the Effectrode TD-2A which run three valves cascading into one another, and at high enough voltage to actually push the valves. This is actually a proper valve *preamp*, whereas something like the Butler is just an overdrive pedal. Effectrode does make a Fuzz pedal that gets it's sound from driving a tube, but it is apparently some kind of mini tube that can be driven by 9 volts.

[@JamieTyson]

I'm sorry, the above is internet misinformation; a rumor juicy enough to have spread! The tube/valve in various low voltage tube pedals are absolutely distorting! I really need to do a video to demonstrate this. Merlin Blencowe has some good plots on the internet of "starved plate" valve distortion circuits; might be worth a Google.

[@darwinsaye]

Jamie Tyson Cool. Thanks for the info!

[@misterguitargeek]

Let us not forget that after the Tube Driver, BK Butler came down from the mountain with the Ibanez Tube King. Ibanez proclaimed "let there be a tube drive for every man" and then it was so. In a boutique world, I really miss that pedal... a tube drive for the rest of us.

[@trickyrjb1]

The Guitar Geek , yes that Ibanez is fantastic..

[@fpsknifer9906]

Behringer currently produce a clone of the Tube King which they call the Vintage Tube Monster. Unlike most of their pedals, this one is in a proper metal enclosure. It sounds awesome, but some people like upgrading the stock Bugera tube to something like a Sovtek 12AX7. It's worth a look if you're looking for a pedal of this style which is affordable & currently being produced.

[@mattgilbert7347]

Maxon ROD880 is pretty darn good as well.

[@ArchDukeOfTops]

Interesting Eric Johnson tidbit, from what I've read (and I'm a bit obsessed): he has the eq off into a cranked Marshall, but he sets the TD output LOW, like below unity. The volume of the cranked Marshall is actually dialed down by the TD. That imparts some of the TD character without getting so compressed and garbled. Of course he's also using an Echoplex w/ preamp, but that's a whole different rabbit hole. Great vid gents!

[@JamieTyson]

Good call! It seems he varies the gain of the Tube Driver seems to vary as well- probably much less gain than was used on this video. It would have been nice to hear it with lower gain into the overdriven amp here. I find that it retains the warmth and smoothness while getting rid of the slightly harsh or overly saturated sound Dan and Mick had with the Tube Driver into an overdrive amp. As an aside- Butler designed the tube driver and the overlord. And the tube king!

[@BasementShopGuy]

Man, I love when Mick goes off and starts whaling!! Awesome video guys!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+BasementShopGuy Hey man, save the whales! ;0)

[@sheercerebralpower]

Bob Mhali and the Whalers

[@OliverthePug1]

Thanks, I was about to sell my Chandler tube driver. I was putting the tone controls at 12 O clock and sounded like crap, at zero a Marshall in a box.

[@repomanband]

Nice show I saw this referenced in a 2020 VCQ.

[@mwet77]

Hey guys! This is a topic I was so hoping you would cover! I am glad to hear it is part 1, so there is more to come. Could you please include the Balckstar HT Dual in part 2, or at least in another show when you compare various pedals?

[@AmDsus2Fmaj7Am]

Effectrode tube drive... not there but my favorite valve pedal, hands down. You can saturate it more than a real Marshall pre-amp. It doesn't sound like a pedal or an effect; it sounds like a loud amp. Lots of compression, fat tone, simple controls; can't ask for more. And it takes three easy-to-swap 12AX7's, so the 12AX7 choice also affects the tone.

[@alanevans3809]

+PlayerX completely agree. i have one, and a Blackbird. shame they didn't get a mention

[@amandacatherine793]

Absolutely. as apple pie is to America, Effectrode is to the UK. Love everything here, but where is the Effectrode love?

[@andyr5579]

Was just researching the Tube Driver and saw this. Great (old) episode! I really enjoyed it. Thanks.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Hey Andy. We did one more recently too - I picked up a used Tube Driver so we did a revisit…..kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGi4qnyniL9_oqs Cheers!

[@tonys2705]

Very interesting.. I come from the old school. Used a lot of tube pedals. Cool to see you drag some of these out. Don't see much of them used anymore. Man, you're a wealth of information, Daniel. Always learn a bunch listening to these vids...

[@TheToneLounge]

I have the three knob version of the Tube Driver and love it with my Stratocaster and 1966 Gibson GA-15rvt.

[@guncore]

As weird at it may sound, on some amps putting the EQ at zero actually works really well. Especially when using pedals. You go from zero on amp eq with presence to taste and use your OD pedal, dial in the pedal and then up the eq your amp from there to taste. Kinda how you're running pedals before and into the tube driver, except the tube driver would be your amp.

[@terryenglish7132]

I agree about the tone section. But that's indicative of a poor design. T C pedals are designed so the whole sweep on the tone pots are usable. If a pedal is only good 0 to 3, or 7 to 10 the pot should be just covering that range w a bypass cap or 2 if needed.

[@thebluesprosecutor875]

Once again, great job in showing and explaining how everything works together. Could you guys maybe do an episode on impedance, buffers and more stuff like that, and how they work in the signal chain? Would love to know a bit more about the theory behind all that.

[@Grant_Ferstat]

Interestingly on the occasions that I've used Valve OD"s I've often found as well as them working better with amps with some clean headroom (Not my Magic Amps Brit MK2 AC15 style!) I've also found that using the amp's low input is also often a good option. It seems to tame some of the attack transients and over-compression.

[@willsiegfried1293]

Really interesting! I agree about having a video with these into some solid-state amps. A couple more video ideas/request: 1. A crash course on tone terminology (fizzy, sizzly, spongey, etc.) 2. Getting a prominent CCM guitarist on the show to talk about church tone (Nigel Hendroff, Jeff Kunde, Michael Pope, etc.). I play mainly in a church setting, so it would be very helpful for me and for any other guitarists that play in a house of worship. I just want to say that I love the videos, guys! I picked up lead/electric just over a year ago after many years of rhythm acoustic, and this channel has been a life-saver for what gear to buy and how to use it. I always come away from your videos, and my tone is infinitely better because of it. Thank you for what you do!

[@garyslash7552]

Thank you guys again. I've been playing for over thirty years thinking that I know some sh... about sound. Never have I learned so much about what works and what doesn't since I've been watching your show. And you're funny on top of that. Just great!

[@OnerOzaylak]

wonderful tones and great playing (from both of you). thanks.

[@electricj5]

Mick, some of your best tones ever.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+electricj5 Thank you! I have high hopes for the Kingsley combination I'm currently putting together... :0)

[@electricj5]

+That Pedal Show I have followed Kingsley for a decade and want a Jester badly. Anyone want to help the cause and take a Tonebone Classic off my hands?

[@JonOpe]

Yup Dan, that lick on 4:42 was stunning! Great video as allways. Thank's for sharing your knowledge! Love your playing, greetings from Poland !

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Jon Ope ah, cheers Jon, every now and then a sneaky lick makes its way through :) thanks for watching

[@JasonVanzant]

The Fender Super Reverb and the Hamstead combination is AMAZING. You can really hear it at 4:28 before Daniel rolls off his volume pot. Thanks for paying so much attention to the subtleties of tone in your videos.

[@tomatik4032]

Nice playing Mick! Great episode. I've been using a Hughes and kettner tube factor OD for years and this shed some light on it for me.

[@lunarstablos]

You surely need to have a look at one of the Radial Tonebone pedals in the next valve overdrive video. Trimode, Classic Distortion, Plexitube or Hot British

[@steveg219]

its great how much you guys love the sounds, very entertaining and great tones!

[@markholmes2665]

I am late to this party....just watched this wonderful show from 2016.....now it's 1-20-18, and I loved the "tube preamp floor pedal" idea. For years I used a BK Butler Tube Driver to boost my lead channel of my MK3 Boogie. It was a WONDERFUL sound. And as long as I didn't turn the gain really high on the Tube Driver, it was not a noise-fest.....just super fat and warm, with sustain for days....and I had a lot of guitar players tell me "you shouldn't do that...tube distortion into tube distortion".....until they heard my rig....then they didn't say much.....I also have used a Damage Control Solid Metal Tube distortion the same way....wonderful sound....just goes to show that there's no right way or wrong way to do this tone quest. Trust your ears.....!

[@zlippery1]

Curious what happens with a valve overdrive pedal and s solid state amp.

[@xneurianx]

+Martin Jakobsson Actually, I've been wondering recently about the differences in how all pedals react to solid state. SS clean channels are super-dry and seem like a great place for layering FX onto, but as we all know, SS distortion can be a bit harsh sounding. I think it would be a really interesting video if the guys were to discuss solid state amps and how pedals - especially fuzz / OD / distortions work differently with them. I know solid state amps aren't popular, but a lot of people do own them.

[@periloustemple8290]

I did not like it very much for a driven sounds, but with an eq its not so bad with a solid state. That said, BK Butler originally built his to warm up keyboard sounds. When he started it was two tubes - which still seems like a better idea, but he's a pretty smart guy. In both the King and TD's, its an opamp hitting the valve. IMHO, modeling and solid state might actually better than trying to get the valve warmth from opamp/starved plate valve into solid state.

[@MB-yw3pv]

YES, EPISODE WITH SOLID STATE AMPS AND PEDALS VS VALVE AMPS WITH PEDALS, HAS TO HAPPIN, I THINK ALOT OF PEOPLE WOULD BE CURIOUS ABOUT THIS

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

OKAY! GOTCHA!!

[@tiborrisko7349]

I was actually thinking the same thing, I've been using an old Japanese Roland Cube 60 from the 80's for years now, it's my main gigging amp, takes pedals really well but I was wondering how it would perform with such an overdrive. Have you had any experience with this since? Thanks for your feedback Martin.

[@k2avfr]

Seems a shame that an Effectrode wasn't included in the comparison.

[@ajsrhodes]

I have the Tube Driver and I have to run the EQ like you were using, otherwise it's too buzzy and brittle sounding. The only exception is when I run it into my Ampeg jet j-20, it sounds better with the EQ around 10:30-11:30 for the bass and treble. Great show guys!

[@doughboy777]

The Jester Pedal sounds amazing. Simon Jarrett is an anomaly. Not only does he make amazing pedals & amps, but he's one of the greatest guitar players in the world. Think Robben Ford with more harmonic knowledge & way better chops. It's criminal that he doesn't have a slew of CDs out for guitar fanatics to devour.

[@jeffdubuque5622]

yes he is a great player and nice guy, the jester is a keeper for sure, made here in Canada.

[@kennethryman7836]

Really? I know this comment is five years old but I had to laugh. Simon is a terrific player and great pedal builder. But More harmonic knowledge and way better chops than RF? Really? Not taking a thing away from Simon, but do think Miles picked Robben for his good looks? Or Joni? Or George? Or The Blue Line? Or what 40 plus years of stellar ground breaking recordings and live shows world wide? I just had to laugh.

[@lufiealice6251]

This is such a good channel, great playing, loads of knowledge and great gear. 🤘

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Lufie Alice cheers Lufie 🤓

[@francov9015]

Are you guys getting better and better every week. That "pedal steel" style thing Dan was doing was so sweet!!

[@alecmacgrory6401]

Thanks guys, no prize for guessing what I'm after now! love the show, keep up the great work!

[@davidkieltyka9]

The tube-based pedals I like are the Electro-Harmonix English Muffin and DeLisle Eighty-Sixed, the former using a pair of 12AY7s and the latter an EF86 (of course) along with a 12AX7. The DeLisle has an optional line level output so you can use it as a proper preamp into a dedicated power amp or into the return input of an effects loop (thus bypassing your amp's preamp section). IMO both pedals work best into clean amps.

[@edwardajaj]

You GUYS are ROCKIN IT !!!!!!

[@lance134679]

Another little known tube overdrive is the SIB 'Cuda. It really colours the sounds and put its own stamp on the sound, like you'd expect. I can get fairly "transparent" (where the overall eq doesn't change drastically) low gain sound at the lower gain settings. As you turn it up, you can get that 4-12 type sound from an open-back cabinet.Nice demo and discussion. Thank you for the video.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Lawrence Gillespie cheers L. I did try the Barra but I couldn't get it to work from me, after your comment I'm going to go back and try again and see if I missed something :)

[@That70sGuitarist]

You guys should check out TC Electronic's Tube Pilot. I've owned one for several months now, and it's a great little dirt box/OD with great tone from a plate-starved 12AX7 tube. I run it like a "sweetener" with the effect level about 9 to 10 o'clock and the volume at 2 o'clock, and it sounds wicked cool!

[@vikramjitbanerjeetuki]

Fellow BK Butler Tube Driver owner here,good going guys enjoyed this episode a lot,keep them coming,got to day i really loved the overlord too-surprisingly articulate pasteurised rock lead tone !

[@vikramjitbanerjeetuki]

Typos*got to say

[@ThatPedalShow]

+vikramjit banerjee cheers V, yep, killer od. Once you've played with valve pedals into a good sounding amp, it's very hard to go back

[@DieselWeazel]

great job. I've learned more from you guys than any other channel.

[@chuckhutch4104]

Great show! I'm using a valve overdrive (from Modkits) in front of my class A amps and it adds a richness, or depth, to the overall sound that I don't get with regular OD pedals. It currently has a 12au7 in it that sounds particularly good with 5f1 circuits. Looking forward to the next show.

[@coceanband]

when you do part 2 it'd be good to see an HT Dual, a Tube King and English Muffin.

[@fiddlix]

Love yawls show. It’s entertaining and educational and just pure damn fun.

[@stoneysdead689]

The reason I haven't gotten into valve drives- one reason anyway- is the power issue. They never run on 9 v center neg. like all my other pedals. This leads to me invariably plugging the power lead for my valve drive into one of my other pedals by mistake- and it fries whatever you plug it into instantly. I have seen a few that run on 9v but, I was told by the JHS show that if a valve isn't powered at a high enough voltage it won't work right- and that this means a lot of the 9v pedals that have valves- just having a valve stuck in them with a light in it- it's not really doing anything. In the end I decided having a tube amp was good enough and I would just stay away from the valve pedals- but I really like that Butler Tube Driver, Gilmour is my hero. It's very tempting to give it a go- and label my power leads.

[@kellyjackson7889]

The Kingsley is an all tube preamp pedal the other two are single tube/solid state hybrids.

[@chrisbowler9420]

Rig I played over 100 gigs: Marshall JCM 800 or '65 Bassman. Chandler Tube Driver, Boss Metal Zone, Alesis reverb, Rickenbacker 360/12 setup so well I played all my leads on it. Holy BLEEEP I miss that rig. Still have the Tube Driver.

[@exodia333]

I have a Rocktron Silver Dragon I run into a solid-state crate amp at practice, Really makes a solid-state amp come alive.

[@theLonelyOld]

Thank you guys! You are the best in what you do! Keep them coming and we will keep supporting!

[@ishadawaher-bakhos1048]

You guys are like the guru tones of the internet

[@Iliaspap80]

The Tube Driver works pretty well as Boost/light OD. Boost: Drive:8, Hi:2, Lo:1, Lvl:2 o'clock and OD: Drive:9, Hi:1, Lo:1 and Lvl: 1+ o'clock.

[@MrApprobatur]

Haha wow, Mick's really ripping in the end! :)) And I really enjoyed the Tube Driver.. thanks for a great show guys!

[@wikxzen1]

Thanks for next TPS show! I got 2-Tone pedal by Bad Cat and It's still my favorite tube OD. Big pedal with big sound!

[@chrisosborneband4941]

you guys should check out the Effectrode Blackbird!!

[@JESOBERANES]

That ending was a killer one! I wondered if I had to buy a tube screamer! Of course I won't. Now it's time to get a tube driver!

[@AlexFernandezSMS]

Check out two notes "le preamp" pedals. Great show, one of my favorites on KZbin! Thanks for the knowledge!

[@thisdyingsoul76]

I had an overlord in the late 90's and loved it. But, knowing more about how to set up guitar tones now, I'm not so sure it would be my bag. Which is funny because I find I tend to lean towards more edgy, less refined tones. I like boutique pedals, but tend to also like the vintage Boss pedals or Joyo pedals that seem to be a bit less smooth sounding.

[@smithscarborough]

Absolutely love my EHX English Muff’N.

[@marxug1]

Some love for the English Muff’n!! Unlike some of these 9v pedals it takes its own hefty 12vAC supply which I think makes a difference. Can be a little fizzy in the high gain ranges, but I use it always-on at low gain, high level for boost and color. When I switch it off, 75% of the joy goes away!

[@joshuagarcia5689]

Great show

[@JLE999]

No one: Somebody: *plays chord* That Pedal Show: Just amazing! Brilliant! Wow!

[@danielroberts9579]

My favorite part of Friday. Awesome episode guys!

[@kyleadams5386]

Team Tube for life... great show gentlemen... please review a Tube Pilot That is what I could afford

[@northof50now]

Excellent video Dan. Mick, the playing at the end was wonderful. I have to admit, though I could clearly hear differences when switching amp/pedal combinations, there were occasions when I "thought" I heard the opposite of Dan's explanation of what was happening. Untrained ear? It was most notable with the TubeDriver into the compressed amp...which I though sounded more open, with more clarity than with the BluesDriver.

[@evelbasturd]

One more reason to look forward to, and love, Friday!! You guys are the abso-lute best!

[@ThatPedalShow]

+evelbasturd ah, cheers E 🤓

[@TheoreticalLimit]

Thanks to your video, I decided to acquire the Tube overlord and I enjoy it a lot ! It also sounds great in a digital pedalboard like the Headrush.

[@metallica3604]

Mike is such a good player

[@mickbuckley9257]

Great show as ever! Can we have a boogie v-twin in part 2?

[@MeLifeBeLikeMoooAhhh]

You guys should do these so they're available as a podcast

[@marcosnobrega8954]

This isn’t the bk td version used by EJ, he uses the bias one. This one is used by David gilmour

[@allkinds1069]

Best jams they've done I reckon, fucking killer tone and playing

[@russwilson2305]

Those tube drivers do that Eric Johnson thing awesome. The Overlord is horrific? I may need one...

[@ForViewingOnly]

Very enjoyable guys! Have a great weekend!

[@HermelJaworski]

Please demo the Blackstar HT dual in part 2!

[@SwirlyWhirlyXYZ]

I would love a video on amp and pedal setups for the (relatively) recently re-released Fender/Squier Bass VI guitar/bass hybrid instrument. So many possibilities/unknowns.

[@weepingBear]

Awesome! awesome! Awesome! Ow man! you guys are great! I love you Daniel! you guys are my gearhead heroes! When are you guys gonna do booster (mid boost, treble boost, clean boost) pedals? I would love to hear your technical opinion and preferences. Thanks for That Pedalshow--something to look forward to every Friday morning here in jersey!

[@stuartbegley2085]

They have done one like that, think it's under danielthegigrig channel though,

[@nickthenail]

Great episode guys! I've owned the Kingsley Minstrel (both sides of Jester combined) for 5 years now. So unbelievably versatile. It is without a doubt my reference overdrive pedal.

[@8odycount]

Since I know Jimmy thackery is using a tube driver aswell, I want one so bad. This thing is awesome.

[@wadewilson6082]

I have a Seymour Duncan twin tube classic overdrive that's amazing. Makes any amp sound great

[@MrBingping]

Love my tube driver!

[@ukiluser]

I think Gilmour has like 3 Tube Drivers in his board right noe

[@ukiluser]

*right now

[@ProbablyTooLoud]

David G. has said something to the effect that he sounds like himself regardless of the equipment. I think there is wisdom in this view. Proper gear should brings out the guitarists voice, not alter it beyond recognition, unless that is your goal.

[@michaelwoods9005]

@@HIWATTSteve which he hasn't used for decades

[@ricardorodriguez5549]

At the end of this you touch on the secret to making these play nice with your other pedals, I think. In earlier videos you’ve spoken about why an EQ is an essential part of any chain. My old GE-7 is invaluable in taming some of the hairier sonic artifacts that a valve OD can generate while still giving you a solo boost. A question I had while watching this was where in the signal chain you would recommend placing a valve OD: before or after a TS type pedal?

[@zac_m]

The red on Dan's Kraut is greeaaaat. It's so good lookin'. I love love that finish.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Zac Miller yep, and I've just put a P90 in the bridge. Unreal!

[@zac_m]

Did you get it rerouted or use a bucker sized p90? I put p90s in all of my bridges because I'm a heathen and love love to hear how people do it. I've played some amazing bucker sized ones but I swear there's a lil jangle you lose. Giant fan, btw. Y'all are the best guitar channel on KZbin and it isn't even close

[@bradleystroup1457]

what exactly is that MOD for the overlord? to 12v DC and what is the eq modded to? can you send it to the guy to get that done?

[@MiniForklift]

Love the start of the video ~ way to make a lick completely your own! Great episode (yet again) guys. I'm always impressed how well the little Boss Blues Driver stacks up against the big boys. They all sounded pretty good IMHO, loved the fullness of the Tube Driver. Mick, they're only three notes but can you tell what they are in that ascending signature Eric Johnson lick you play? Regards from NZ, kia kaha JIM.

[@lukepowell1201]

If you do additional versions (Part 2, 3, et. ) I would love it if you included any of the Radial Tonebone pedals! I love the Tonebone classic.

[@ThatPedalShow]

+Luke Powell A few people have asked for those.... we shall make enquiries!

[@markbrooks1710]

Could you give us a video demonstrating your suggestions on how to use effects such as Chorus, Phase, Flanger, Delay pedals with clean, crunch and overdriven settings, so that the effected sound remains transparent and not overly dominate the natural sound of the guitar and amp. In addition could you explain methods you use to stop digital distortion and artifacting from being heard.

[@ricardorodriguez5549]

I’ve got a Radial Hot British ToneBone doing similar duty on my board. It can be finicky but that Plexi thing is nifty to have once or twice a set.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Finniky is good in our book. Usually means it’s carefully balanced. Can be amazing, can be awful! :0)

[@ricardorodriguez5549]

That Pedal Show indeed! A narrow channel of awesomeness surrounded on either side by side and certain doom. It’s like being Luke Skywalker without the whole “galaxy hangs in he balance” thing:)

[@golf-freq]

The Hermida Audio Zendrive 2 into a Fender Blackface Deluxe Reverb will get you into the territory of "Holy Grail" tone. These pedals are very rare now and increasingly costly since they are no longer being made. The Dumble amps that inspired the pedal... well, you know the rest of the legend. "It's disappointing you Pedal Guys didn't feature the Zendrive 2 in this segment" said I, the guy commenting two years later!

[@johngogo17]

Can anyone tell me what song Mick was playing at the end? That was phenomenal! I'd love to get to the source material lol