That's 10lbs of Camper in a 5lb Sack WOW!! 2023 Jay Feather Micro 199MBS Travel Trailer by Jayco RV

2023 Jay Feather Micro 199MBS Compact Family Camping Bunkhouse Travel Trailer
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If you need to sleep a LOT of people and don't want to (or cannot) tow a large camper, then THIS is the perfect solution! This packs almost every feature from a larger tandem axle camper into a lighter weight and more affordable package!
Weights & Measures:
Hitch lbs 655
Empty lbs 4,575
Cargo lbs 1,175
Max lbs 5,750
Full Length 23' 2"
Roofline 9' 6"
A/C Height 10' 5"
Body Width 7' 6"
Axle Width 8' 5"
Ceiling 6' 6"
Awning 15' 9"
Fresh 55
Gray 30.5
Black 30.5
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00:00 RV Overview
02:06 Living Room
06:15 Kitchen & Bunks
09:05 Storage & Murphy Bed
11:25 Bathroom
12:35 Road Mode
13:51 Exterior
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[@dand7490]

Great little camper. A couple of thoughts to improve it: 1. Rear cargo door with window in lieu of just the window. 2. Two burner cooktop for more counter space. Maybe add a flip up counter. 3. Shrink the dinette by a few inches and get some sort of storage pantry between the slide and bathroom.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I like that 2 burner idea. I never quite understood the idea of going three burner with no oven option

[@avsfan80459]

Don't like the brush guards, or whatever they call them, if you can't stand on them. Anyone who even knows kids knows that they would be constantly climbing and crawling on them.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Kid magnet. Absolutely

[@rosemarydoran9907]

Since you said change to a cargo door, I will say a bigger kitchen sink. The one they chose won't hold a cereal bowll!

[@bryana1942]

Wow! Talk about jamming all you can, Jayco did an awesome job, and nice and light to boot. 👍 For the tv, maybe some kind of extending arm mount, that puts it more in front of the door would be a bit better, as long as no one tries to get in or out…

[@salliannebrown8129]

I like all of the windows and versatile sleeping spaces. I also like how the bed fully hides away. Overall, a really nice little camper. Perfect for a young family.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

TY for watching! :)

[@davidlinkletter4865]

I feel a back door and some kind of hold down would be beneficial & window for that bunk on camp side. I always love to watch your channel thanks again good job and nappy camping everyone.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Agreed

[@philsonnenberg6092]

Seems like a great camper. Those lower bars are just silly on that type of camper. No real advantage versus cost and weight.

[@jameshuddle5111]

Great floor plan. No nurf skirt, no roof rack. No upper bunk just a bar across the back for hanging cloths. No back window. A door in the back would be great for a kayak. Thanks for the show.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

My pleasure! Thank you for watching!

[@stevez340]

If Jayco just offered a theater seating option for the dinette and stopped using cheap plastic toilets and Dollar Store 4” vent fans this would be awesome👍

[@6dna]

Yes and cuddle compliant theater seats. And I wonder, has anybody been hurt using those telescoping ladders? Is it that much difference in price to put on a real ladder. I'm no spring chicken so please add back an attached ladder. And to echo Josh, where's the splash guard to the right of the stove? And could use a small counter extension on the left of the sink. And yes again Josh - cargo door in the back.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Can’t do that in a step up slide buddy. Physically doesn’t work

[@stevez340]

@@6dna I currently have an attached ladder on one of my RVs and I have to use a telescoping ladder on another, and I can tell you that in my 4 decades of RVing that overall an attached ladder is more stable and safe👍

[@stevez340]

@@JoshtheRVNerd I don’t understand how a dinette can protrude so far but theater seating isn’t possible, but I guess I’ll have to settle for a cheaper less comfortable jackknife sofa option😂

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

@@stevez340 It's not about slide depth. It's about where the floor of the slide starts. Theater seats need to start at the floor level to have proper space for the reclining mechanism and structure below them. When a slide is above the floor like this that means the sofa would start 6-9" higher up in the air. If you tried to climb into that sofa, then your feet would be off the ground and your head thru the slide box ceiling.

[@bradhinken997]

My Dad purchased one of these is 2021 and we use this thing all over. He loves the brush guards! He and my Mom do a lot of off pavement camping down narrow seasonal roads that are poorly maintained. Those things have saved his camper many times. He bought it because he wanted to be able to sleep 6 adults comfortably which is accomplished. This camper is perfect for off pavement weekend outings as well as doing some good old fashioned park camping. My wife and I accompanied my parents on a week long UP trip and loved this camper. His basic tow package F150 pulls this thing easily. I 10/10 recommend. Also Josh he decided to buy this camper after watching your older video on it.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Man thank you for sharing!! Love seeing stuff like this 😊

[@karlcoger5982]

At first I didn't like the bar's around the bottom, but the more I think about it they would be great to hang wet towels and swim suits.

[@adamjetter1581]

We used ours exactly for this

[@BoltmanAP]

Hey Josh, thanks for all of the great information and funny humor. My wife and I have been watching your videos for some time now. We have decided to purchase an 19MBS at some point next year because it will fit our tow vehicle and family size. I am trying to convince my wife to drive out from San Diego to Michigan to say hello and purchase one from you. What you have been providing the RV community for the past years has really earned my respect and, hopefully, my business. Take care.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty Nicholas

[@jameshageman6244]

Thanks! Great video!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thank you, James! :)

[@pennylynch4471]

That ladder for the bunk is great! Very handy for it to just be tucked out of the way. I agree it needs a rear cargo door. I'm really surprised it doesn't have one. You can't slide a kayak up the belly of that beast!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah those bunk ladders are awesome. I love those things

[@mattgillim3294]

@@JoshtheRVNerd Any chance you can pull a part number for that ladder?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

@@mattgillim3294 Not within my sphere of things I'm afraid. I'd have to direct you to parts teams

[@amymaley]

Absolutely needs a cargo door! I am good with no oven I like the convention microwave. Nice little camper though.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

TY Amy

[@xghost2522]

I don’t like cargo doors.

[@Mark300win]

Hi Amy, why do you recommend cargo door, i’m new to this so appreciate sharing tour experience! Thanks

[@sladesmith6975]

Good bathroom for a small camper

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I thought so

[@sarahdavison2692]

Especially if you’re “paid to poop”. Lol!

[@jasonguillory3374]

The best place for the hot water temp is near the shower. I’ve had them all. It’s nice to be in the shower and be able to reach out and adjust temp. And by the way, the tankless heater changes rv life for the good.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Very helpful. Thank you. Makes sense as well

[@leanngoodall7602]

I agree, this needs a rear cargo hatch.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

👍🏻

[@redd251]

If I purchased this camper I would gut the bunk area and make it either a washer/dryer area or a combo unit & extra storage. I’m a single guy, I want to camp off grid but I’d like all the comforts of home when I get back to civilization

[@DarkestStarryNight]

Love everything but I'd want a cargo door and an oven. Otherwise love the layout!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

👍🏻 ty

[@ncupp7467]

This thing is amazing! I want it

[@maynardholmes8870]

Thank you Josh for those out there. I just googled how much does 5 pounds of propane way it’s about 37 pounds so that’s pushing the upper limits of my toe hitch on the Ranger with the max tow package of 750 pounds on the tongue we’re looking at possibly 710 pounds before the battery and I have one of those tow hitches which has the little scale built into the hitch. Pretty neat. Guess I’ll start looking. At the cougar MDS that’s on a similar floor plan except he got two axles. Thank you again, Josh.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Sorry.. 5lbs of propane is 37lbs? I am not quite following This uses 20lb bottles.. I wonder if you may have unintentionally thought it was 40 gallons if LP which is very different

[@MrNickb-s500]

Nice little Jayco 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@craigogden3654]

I like the brush guards. Obviously not taking this thing true overlanding, but it would be nice on some of the forest service roads I've been on.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Fair enough. Ty

[@craigogden3654]

@Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV and it also makes a nice place to lock the kid's bikes, the grill or whatever to. Just enough to keep the honest people honest. Love the channel, keep up the great work!

[@fins1838]

Tie me wallaby down jack, tie me wallaby down. Classic!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

SOMEONE remembers!

[@crazycritterlady8788]

I could take or leave the brush guards. I pretty much like it. I'd love a real oven tho. Tater tots made in the microwave come out soggy! I'm not thrilled about a slide, one more major thing to break and maintain. Love the shower, can we get 30lb propane tanks? The small camp kitchen. I don't sleep well anyway so a Murphy bendy bed is fine with me.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I think 30lb tanks are offered

[@debbierhode6291]

You keep showing me perfect models for my kids😂! I love this one too!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

:)

[@deanna4224]

This is a cute model but, I would love recliners instead of the u dinette.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That would be great though not possible with a step-up slide like you find in this one. Need a floor flush slide to really pull off true incliners Though sometimes you'll bump into a company that squeezes in a pair of kickout incliners for the sofa - but no true recline function

[@ctsnider88]

You know, most of us have learned to expect anything from you Nerd. So many bunk options.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

lol :)

[@PeonSanders911]

Get rid of the brush guards , and add a second axle and that's the perfect Trailer! Do it and take my moneyl

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That's basically what this one is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/amGwpYJme7mJm5o

[@adamjetter1581]

The TV works if your stuck in on a rainy day. We've all pilled in 2 adults and 2 little kiddos. It works 💪 😊

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

THANK YOU for sharing this! Love feedback from real owners. And you're definitely one of the OG owners!! :)

[@davidoverton2432]

Nice rig dang roof lights look like runway lights! only thing even if it cut off the trailer a bit I would prefer a tri fold sleeper sofa in that slide

[@JandAReview1]

Jayco gets it right with all the lights! 👍

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That’s their new JayBright system I just made up a second ago

[@JandAReview1]

@@JoshtheRVNerd Man you need to put a Patton that name!

[@williamsawyer5614]

Cool

[@RockerRed]

I like it! 👍🤘Thank you! Thank you!👍🤘💙💚💙💚

[@michaelberdoza5875]

I’d make the brush guards more durable. Being able to stand on them would improve their functionality.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah I kinda feel like do it or don't.. don't ride that fence

[@timdianahird9776]

Yes, to the cargo loading door!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thank you!

[@stever6986]

This is my favorite JFM model (although I also like the 166MBS) despite the booth dinette, but my wife didn't love the JFM line and I think Ember is doing a better job of fulfilling what was the original promise of the JFM line. I do like the additional side ladder anchor point instead of just at the rear of the trailer and they definitely do need to add a rear bunk access door.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I think the 166FBS is their best executed model with all that cabinetry in a small camper but for packing a lot of people into a small towing space this is a strong, strong contender

[@tmcgee1554]

They need to add a countertop extension for a coffee maker!

[@adamjetter1581]

They just need to add a larger sink. You can put your coffee maker out side in the kitchen

[@preyingmathis2517]

They should mount the TV on the ceiling. Create a system where it can be flat against the ceiling and then once deployed can be spun 360 to be viewed from anywhere.

[@leanngoodall7602]

I would like to see Lagun style tables for the Murphy sofa and the dinette.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ember is good for those

[@jimcramer9656]

Who needs an entertainment center when I can watch uncle Josh on my phone 🤗

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[@michaelcorey9890]

Great video Josh, thanks. Looking to upgrade from our KZ Spree Escape 191BH but this isn't quite the one I'm looking for.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thx for watching. I have plenty more for you to see

[@betterwithrum]

Josh, I've pulled muscles I didn't even know were their as I've gotten older. And yes, recently I pulled an ab muscle, it was so, so painful but in an really odd way.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

ugh. every day I learn I have something new to look forward to

[@xghost2522]

I think this floor plan is great for a family starter that wants to get into camping ngl.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

👍🏻

[@mattthompson5143]

I just picked one up a week ago. Disappointed that did not come with Jay Smart lighting but I still love the unit overall. Perfect weekender Love your videos 👍

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I looked into that after someone else reported something similar. Apparently their supplier is struggling to keep up and they ran into a parts shortage on those. I didn't get the memo I guess

[@donnamcdonald3709]

I love the SEPARATE PRIVATE BEDROOM with bunks, outlets, and rear window. We don't need a rear cargo door.

[@de1057]

If I were an engineer, I would make those "brush guards" hold a deployable winter skirting. Yes, weight limits would mean a total rebuild. Just a thought for future builders.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Neat idea!

[@thandrick5220]

The single axel kills me.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/amGwpYJme7mJm5o

[@geoffsatterfield4858]

My one thing to change would be the location of the TV. I’d swap it with the thermostat and make sure it can be pushed back pretty flat against the wall so the slide doesn’t hit it.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I like the idea. I think they’d need to pull the slide forward a bit though. Not sure there’s enough room there

[@Shoop83]

re: The brush guards... Either make them structural so they can be stepped on (because they WILL be) or remove them.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

They were gone for 2024

[@COMMANDER-ONE]

Definitely add in a door in the rear and make those brush guards heavy enough to hold 250 pounds or do away with them.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@COMMANDER-ONE]

5:04 😅 very funny movie reference !!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

mmmhmmmm

[@COMMANDER-ONE]

@@JoshtheRVNerd 😆

[@micheleobrien64]

Hey josh limit your carbs to 60 grams per meal and double your veggies. Lbs drop off like crazy. Just watch for veggies that are actually carbs. Like potatoes corn and peas. All the legumes have some carbs to them. Good luck!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah I know HOW to do it. I've just been lazy.

[@a.cioffi4256]

Hi Uncle Josh! Yes I would love to have that door on the back to access the bunk storage! As far as price, why are these priced almost as much as some larger trailers? I do like this model though. I compare it to the Ember 191 mbs. Another favorite.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Highly appointed small camper prices can rival larger RVs with more conventional materials and basic equipment packages

[@karenandy2943]

I think this is good for my Lexus 460

[@everettchris1]

Change? Two burner cooktop and a bit more counterspace, OR, add a proper oven and get rid of the microwave. I suspect that the reason they do what they do is that furrion doesn't have a good two burner cooktop, and the market research says people want a microwave. But I feel like these are a boondock camper, and few people are using the microwave. And nobody is using three burners in a unit this size... especially with the outdoor kitchen. The other thing I'd love, speaking of the outdoor kitchen, is some sort of spigot or even sink. When cooking stuff, having access to water, a cooking surface, and some sort fridge is what you need. (Also, a 12 volt fridge for outside as well as inside). As to the brush guards, having a 171BH, they do help protect the body from the bumps and dings that go with going somewhere other than pavement.. While not "rated" to be stepped on, I think that's mostly about safety and not falling off, not about the strength of the bars themselves. These aren't "rock crawler" units by any means, but going off paved roads isn't unrealistic, and bumping into rocks, or just keeping tree branches a little bit further away from the body is nice. But I could see these being an option for people who weren't planning to go off pavement.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I've seen a few 2024's. They did get rid of those bars

[@oldengineer1519]

If I could change one thing it would be the AC. I like to have air blowing right on me when I sleep so would prefer a unit where the air intakes are on the sides and it has front and rear cold air outlets. They should get rid of the brush bars. These trailers aren't strong enough for overland use and even if they were the brush bars are too light weight to be effective. Removing them would also give back a bit of weight to the cargo capacity. I feel the same about the roof rack. It is so close to the AC that you won't be able to put much up there without risk of damage to the AC. In regards to your comment about the tow vehicle Aux line (i.e. charge line). Many newer trucks use a small gauge wire that will only handle low current draws. Depending upon the manufacturer and truck model I've seen 16 and 18 gauge wires which is enough to maintain a charged battery and run the other basic low current stuff in your average travel trailer. It is why in my 2015 F-150 I ran my own Aux line with all of the fixins using 8 gauge wire so I would not discharge the trailer battery when using a 3-way fridge on the 12V heater while driving. With this in mind I would qualify the jack statement to say you might be able to use the tow vehicle to provide enough power to use the jack or slides when you have a discharged battery. I'd test it out before assuming.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Agree on the brush bars. TY

[@DavidHBurkart]

This is like the "Handy-Dandy" of Campers! The only critique: those fenders ought to be heavy rubber instead of metal

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

May I ask the benefit of rubber vs. metallic fenders?

[@DavidHBurkart]

@@JoshtheRVNerd of course Uncle Josh. To prevent the temptation of using those narrow metal fenders as a ladder rung of sorts. Not a deal-breaker either way, just a point of observation as a retired fire captain who wrote more than his share of damage reports caused by over-zealous, albeit well-intentioned firefighters, who are basically kids at heart... aaaaand there may have been the occasional simulated spiderman crawls involved in such incidents, lol!!

[@marcusbuckslayer3280]

I think this is a great camper for a single axle option. It's not for me, but I like the stow away table. The only place I think they failed is not adding a rear cargo door.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Cargo door would be great I think

[@ringonzar]

Big enough sink so we dont have to wash our bathroom hands in here...🍻

[@debbierhode6291]

Oh and it needs a spray port by the camp kitchen unless I missed it??

[@stanandstansfriend6019]

Just curious how often does it rain when people go camping? I've never had that happened to me once.🤣

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Depends greatly on where you camp

[@ae4xo]

it rained on us in the middle of the GA summer in the driest summer we had in 30 years

[@stevez340]

That’s because the clouds are always following me😮

[@stanandstansfriend6019]

@tlouiseallen9302 I live in southern california so I guess that's a win for me and also loss at the same time🤣🤣

[@MoutainGuyAdventures]

I wish it was tandem axle. The brush guard is not needed. Overall, I really like this. I’ve been looking for one with the 400W /inverter. No one is building them that way. How well is this going to do on dirt roads?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Try this for tandem axle m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/amGwpYJme7mJm5o

[@maynardholmes8870]

Is that hitch weight of 655 pounds before or after it’s filled with propane and I would go the way of ember and make that top bunk foldable or do it in a Jayco way where you can lift up that little piece that extends roll it underneath the bunk

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Always before. Loaded hitch weight varies by user and can only be estimated until scaled after loaded

[@MoutainGuyAdventures]

Cargo bunk is nice. Needs a door. What does the inverter option power vs this rig inside? You mention it’s pre-wired for an inverter. Just curious what that might power if one picked option 2 for solar instead of option one. Will an after market inverter added later do the same thing as the option 2 Solar package? Excellent review. Looks a lot like the Ember but a bit less money.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Inverter is only like three outlets in these. It’s very basic

[@MoutainGuyAdventures]

@@JoshtheRVNerd Thank you. Jayco does not do a good job in explaining these different Overland solar packages. Option one has one panel no inverter. Option two comes with two panels and a 1800 watt inverter, but they don’t say what that does. How many outlets it powers, devices (TV, Frig, etc..), have they updated the wiring between the batteries and the inverter, etc… Is it better to get option one and upgrade it later with an inverter, proper gauge for the inverter and batteries if the trailer is pre wired?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

@@MoutainGuyAdventures if you're going to do it, then I almost always recommend getting it done directly from the factory for a variety of reasons

[@DM-tf6mk]

Would like to see a rear cargo door as some have said already. I also do not like those bars, rock rails, rub rails or whatever they are called. It's a nice little unit otherwise.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

TY. Lot of consistent input. Super helpful

[@micheleobrien64]

The fake nerf bars gotta go. It just makes it wider I'd catch those things on something and tear them right off.😂😂

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thx

[@powderpuffgirl77]

No brush guards, no slide adding more cargo weight.

[@Cowboy47]

#NerdHerd 🎉

[@yidong21]

The folding ladder is really nice. I have an older model. Does anyone know where I can buy one of those? Thanks

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

They’re all over Amazon

[@Brigand231]

With units like this, can we order a propanus upgrade kit with the 90 degree elbow connector?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

😆

[@admiralcrom]

I love the layout just the 30k price tag is hard to swallow.

[@micheleobrien64]

I pulled a muscle in my neck waking up quick. Had to go to the er! 😢😢😂😂😂

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

wait WHAT?!

[@donnamcdonald3709]

Is this floor plan available w/o the exterior bars?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Not specifically but they could be removed

[@aguyandhiscomputer]

All I see is a great place to hang my underwear for drying.

[@user-no1ue1yd7y]

I keep thinking about getting a camper. I have a horse trailer with living quarters, self contained. Everything i need but so small. Anyway, my question is about the single axel. How safe are they? Thats my biggest fear about them.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I mean logically a tandem axle is likely going to handle a little better but it adds weight and cost avoided on these smaller single axle models

[@tytrout629]

Hitch Weight seems pretty high for this size of camper.

[@JustPlainDan]

I wish every youtube video opened work a comment like, “getting paid to poop.” 😂😂 Thanks for another great review, Uncle Josh! #nerdherd

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

lol

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Just recognized the screen name.. are we pokemon go friends or is this a coincidence?

[@JustPlainDan]

@@JoshtheRVNerd No, that's me :) Fellow Pokemon Go’ers. My kids love seeing your Mewtwo (and watching your videos to see the man behind the legend).

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

​@@JustPlainDan Whenever I get a 4* I max out their buddy level for... because? My wife started that and I like the idea When I'm all maxed on 4*'s I'll walk a legendary as at this point I pretty much have high powered everystuff in the game Scanned thru my pokemon recently and realized I have a near-perfect Ho-Oh from ages ago I somehow missed and now working on getting them powered up via rare candies. Max Attack and Defense with only 2 notches missing from HP. A strong keeper! :)

[@JustPlainDan]

@@JoshtheRVNerd We’re just getting started here, so most of my Pokemon are only GL tier, except for a shiny Togekiss I got in the recent event. I got back into it because my sons are diving into the world of Pokemon. Missed the train the first time around 😅.

[@skykeg4978]

Is it possible to get an oven with a single axle type?????????

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yep. Geo Pros include them though that's pretty rare

[@ricks3184]

I'd rather have a 2 burner stove to free up some counter space. I don't see an oven option.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

No oven option offered for now but I think they left the space to consider it

[@clementinabrooks7562]

Very nice,,, what's the price??

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Pricing at www.bishs.com/rv-search?stocknumber=199mbs

[@michaelcorey9890]

On demand hot water in an RV? Does that require 30 amp to function?

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

No. 12v for the circuit board and propane otherwise

[@pineapplesmash6678]

I was gonna ask ya your opinion if u had to pick one of these 2 which one would u choose for yourself jay feather 171bh or Catalina summit series 7 184bhs

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Two very different models there. Laminated no-slide with a lot of stuff vs. basic stick and tin with slide. I don't really put the two into the same comparison buckets so it's difficult for me to offer an answer. The Jay Feather 199MBS lines up in terms of floor plan with the 184BHS Catalina. Obviously still very different equipment packages and build styles on them. If I was going to go one way or the other, then I'd likely be a more basic camper like the catalina. I just don't camp enough to justify the extra widgets and wizbangs. But what I'd choose and why may not line up with the goals you're seeking to accomplish.

[@pineapplesmash6678]

@@JoshtheRVNerd ok thanks...I know they are 2 different beasts.... just wondering if u would pick azdel over stick n tin or just in general which u like better...like if these were the 2 that u were only interested in just wondering which u would go with....for a decision maker...also what do u think of the Schwinn track system slides are they problematic

[@pineapplesmash6678]

@@JoshtheRVNerd hey do u know if the 2023 has the thinshade on the front door window on 171bh micro

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

@@pineapplesmash6678 Feather Micros are prepped for shade only

[@pineapplesmash6678]

@@JoshtheRVNerd so u have to buy it extra....I've heard rumors that the 2023 models come with the thin shade on both doors...that's what one youtuber said that sells them...I believe u cause I know u know your stuff

[@karenandy2943]

It’s hard to pick between this and the jayco

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Sorry- could you clarify? This is a jayco

[@sheputthelimeinthecoconut629]

One thing? I want a conventional water heater. But I’m old and cranky and resistant to change.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I get it. I try to keep up with new stuff but I'm always skeptical

[@DkKristie]

What’s the price on this particular spec ? I went to camping world here in Ga and they have one asking for 36k for 2023 model.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

$36k doesn’t sound out of whack BUT make sure that’s $36 without a bunch of extra hidden fees *DONT SHOP THE UP FRONT PRICE TAG* Ask them what the true out the door price is

[@markvillarreal6005]

Hey josh I have the 166fbs jay o which is the same size as this. If they would have had this set up before I got mine I would have chose this one. Since you are in the industry can please pass along to the manufacturers to stop putting 110 volt outside fridges and put in a small 12 volt cooler instead. The other thing can please pass along is stop using those cheap 1970's thermostats for the furnace and put in digital ones.that's a joke when you are paying forty thousand for a trailer.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I've been a proponent of that fridge swap for years buddy But keep it coming

[@preyingmathis2517]

Where is the blackstone griddle! That box says capital!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Blackstone ended their partnership with RV builders in 2020 or 2021. They couldnt' keep up with the volume of demand.

[@preyingmathis2517]

I thought jayco only used plywood in their floor construction? 🤔

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

In wood floor models yes They’ve never used it exclusively across the board

[@aguyandhiscomputer]

If it needs a NOT A STEP sticker, they need to go.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I think that’s fair

[@freewaylee]

No garage door is a major flaw.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

It does feel like SOMETHING back there would help

[@hotrodbmx]

It's been enjoyable watching your videos the last few years. But the fact that a person needs a 10 pound sack of cash to afford to buy a camper these days has made me realize that I'll never be able to justify buying one. My fault, I should have bought one pre-covid.

[@dinosaur6756]

Uhhh, so let me do the math... The camper weighs 10 pounds, and the sack weighs 5 pounds... that's about 15 pounds total. Wow, that's a heavy sack. Anyway, that's gotta be 1/2 ton towable?!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That sack should fit nicely within a half-ton's allowances As should this RV lol :)

[@mikesarno7973]

Cargo door me!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Agreed

[@sevaguillon1619]

No Pantry 🥴

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Dry storage like a pantry or space for clothes is VERY limited in this one without question

[@debbierhode6291]

And yeah do away with the useless brush guards.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

👍🏻

[@danasaley2025]

Those hideous puck lights...terrible!

[@Mortimer_Duke]

That’s a whole lot of money for not very much capability.

[@twill8210]

No purpose. ! No need. I’d rather save money on the trailer if the rails were gone

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I think I feel the same. Word is those are fairly expensive for what they are as well

[@preyingmathis2517]

Overpriced.