"That's really harsh!" - Ange Postecoglou defends Spurs following 'plastic' fans accusations

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Following a rise in season ticket prices at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, Tottenham head coach Ange Postecoglou hits out at accusations the club are pricing out local fans in place of so-called "plastic fans" from abroad.
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[@Unp0pular0pini0n1]

Well said Ange, as a fellow Aussie we either stay up until 11p.m. or midnight to watch the premier league or wake up at all hours of the morning 1, 2, 3am etc to watch our beloved clubs play. I wonder how many non-plastic fans would do the same thing.

[@whoknew2273]

lol

[@Boudev]

@@whoknew2273 you are weird with your responses. Speak up you coward.

[@fin183]

That’s an interesting point. I’m from England and have been a Spurs fan all my life but I don’t know if I would stay up until 2 in the morning watching them if I had work the next day

[@favor94]

Im in Indonesia and thats how i do it, watching Spurs at midnight or 3am the most late, and work in the morning 😂

[@see_horse]

@@fin183 todays kick off is at 3.30am for us this week! It's hell on a Monday, when we have a Sunday game. LOL.

[@mattsmith4589]

What type of sick monster would fake being a Spurs fan 😭😂💀😂

[@whoknew2273]

lol

[@liverpool-YNWA-mwmi28]

😂😂😂 spot on

[@ChanahsCreativeEdits]

Satan is a spurs fan

[@peterlangbridge4628]

​@@ChanahsCreativeEditsFor his sins.

[@Brzbrngr]

spot on! we never win anything and haven't won anything for like 20 years. anyone who is a spurs fan is the complete opposite of a plastic, gloryhunting fake fan. so stupid really

[@ghostofguy]

Respect all fans that show love.

[@JoseMartinez-md5wc]

Im from the states and never miss a Spurs game during the weekend nor weekdays

[@didnaeknowyehaditinye2813]

Die hard fan turns his tv on. Fair play to you.

[@nollienick1121]

@@didnaeknowyehaditinye2813 someone’s upset

[@didnaeknowyehaditinye2813]

@@nollienick1121 ye I had to take a few days off work to get over it.

[@dathunderman4]

@@didnaeknowyehaditinye2813I mean it’s not easy for ppl in another continent. The games come on for us often at very inconvenient times. Sorry I haven’t been able to travel across the globe to watch a single game yet, I guess I’m not a “real supporter.”

[@eh9296]

Those "plastic fans" of Tottenham fly over half of the globe, spending a lot of money on tickets, souvenirs, food, hotels, and transport. Local fans should be grateful.

[@cheeboonlim2192]

Global fans also have to pay to watch matches on TV that local fans get for free . Those plastic fans arguably the reason why EPL is the most powerful football league in the world financially. UK fans thinks their puny support base can make EPL clubs so rich ? I have been to UK to watch a match and it cost me to travel half the world where a local London fan can cost them just a metro ticket .i’m not surprised to hear such small minded comments that overseas fans are plastic , I likely have travelled and see the world more than them to able to see beyond their puny horizon. Including that reporter

[@hitmancroll]

What are u on about the local fans have to pay extortionate prices and don't even get all the match I pay over £120 a month and still don't get all the matches the the global fans can watch every single game champions league and Premier league for like £3 quid a month so your talk rubbish. We don't get know games for free so why you making lies up.

[@going2Mars]

@@hitmancrollWhat about them? Why should a local fan pay less than someone who came from a long way away? Think about it…

[@cheeboonlim2192]

@@hitmancroll I think you are confused . I did not mention about the price increase and did not say whether it’s right to increase the price . The price is what it is . If you can pay by all means pay for that season ticket or pay for what is affordable , if not watch and support on TV like the rest of us if you do not have the means . Watching on TV do not make us plastic fans it’s just being sensible to spend whatever you can afford in life not just for football . But just don’t blame overseas fans for the price hike . For all it worth , after the price hike , the stadium will still be a sell out . As Daniel Levy will have worked out the economics behind the pricing .

[@Jaykmane]

@@cheeboonlim2192 Uk fans/locals make up majority of the fanbase so i'ts not as little as you think. No one cares that you travelled to see one game.

[@kirkjohnson863]

I love ❤️ tottenham and i am from Jamaica 🇯🇲

[@dan_t8161]

Bless 🙌 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@zakzanotti5868]

I’m an Arsenal fan but I think Ange is spot on why are they plastic just because there from a different country. It is disgraceful what there trying to say.

[@HoneyBunny-z1v]

It's very disheartening to see and hear fellow local fans labelling others as plastic fans. I fell in love with this club 12 years ago, and I usually stay awake until midnight to watch Spurs play. The loss gives me immense pain just as it does to local fans. I am an ardent supporter of this club, and I don't want to be labelled as a plastic fan.

[@whoknew2273]

🤔

[@HoneyBunny-z1v]

@@whoknew2273 😶

[@frozenice61]

it was the reporter who said plastic not the locals,i live 20 mins from the ground i find it very hard to get a ticket and respect all spurs fans from all over the world

[@Taecoconut]

@@frozenice61you obviously haven’t been on social media lately. A large chunk of spurs fans have been calling those not from the UK plastic fans and tourists. They’ve also stated they hate it when we go there because we take their tickets from them (they spew hate towards Asian fans and say we aren’t real fans and priority should be to locals).

[@frozenice61]

@@Taecoconut i dont waste time with toxic people and read there shite,dont take any notice of a few idiots just support the club mate and to me your a fan same as me,my first game was in 1969 ive seen a lot and think now is a great time for the club just enjoy it and dont read that stuff

[@LordFilth]

Big Ange speaking truths again ♥️🤘

[@anslems]

Class manager and top class response. WORD!

[@brendanmelvin9938]

I love this geezer and loved watching Celtic during his trophy laden tenure here…. The irony of this observation coming from the media who get free, unfettered access to areas of the game the fans don’t is clear. We have lazy reporters like this in Scotland, many of them smirking with arrogance when the big fella was appointed… He shut them up with his development of the team & a beautiful brand of football. He’s doing the same with Tottenham, they’re one of the teams I will watch on tv… when I’m not exercising my season ticket for Celtic Wonder what this reporter geezer would make of that Well said Ange 💚

[@librarygary1618]

I haven't missed more than a handful of Liverpool games since I started watching the sport in Brendan's last season and although my support is basically religious at this point, I would never presume that as an American my opinion holds the same or more weight than someone who is a season ticket holder on the Kop. I picked Liverpool because I'm a Beatles fan and always loved how the city looked in documentaries. Is that more or less arbitrary or "plastic" than someone whose dad chose who they'd support for them? I don't know. All I know is that arbitrary decision was maybe the best I've made in my life, and I will support this team wherever I am until I'm dead.

[@JohnnyinTheRoom]

The local English fans got to get their heads out of their proverbials... you have a worldwide product, people relate, and they feel the same passion... think of yourself as blessed or privileged in the locale where your football team is based.

[@nollienick1121]

Yep. I’ve heard people in other sports getting excited when they here they have fans across the world.

[@dalj4362]

Strange you think it's all English fans. I've been going to games for 20 years, and I've never heard anyone say international fans are plastic. Just goes to show how gullible some people are to think everyone is the same.

[@davelaw8804]

Poor plastics have to endure 0030am or 130am or 230am in the +7+8+9 zones. not just tonight but every European games and late kick off

[@edmar23]

And to watch a game have to cross oceans instead of taking a bus

[@samuelhakansson6680]

Oh wow, how hard it must be. Moron.

[@nevillemurugan9664]

Thank you Ange , I saved my hard earned money from South Africa where the currency is weak to bring my son last Jan to watch a live game at the spurs stadium… I have supported this club since the. 80’s, but only could see a game in person in Jan 2023.. so we definitely not plastic , we love our club even from as far as South Africa …. We are passionate …. Just like the local fans in the Uk….

[@abhishek.soni_2001]

spurs supporter from India. It is true that to see spurs play in London is definitely on my bucket list

[@samuelhakansson6680]

Yeah, and you and people like you are the reason why that club has lost its soul. You buying a ticket there means that a local boy wont be able to get the same ticket, and since you probably paid very well for that ticket and the club sees that they can sell tickets for high prices, he wont be able to afford the next one either. You and you kind are trash.

[@JP-re3ru]

You never restrict fans, just build a bigger stadium to accomidate the fandom.

[@davidbaber5445]

Well said Ange.....the purveyor of common sense COYS 🐓

[@tonsterdang]

Dodgy journalist asking that question.

[@stevegrigg383]

I can't afford to go to London ... just hoping the next time Spurs come to Australia they play the east coast not that far away land called WA.

[@grandadneal8114]

Jump on the Indian Pacific mate you could be there in a week

[@vincentroberts8292]

I flew to Melbourne from Perth in 2006 so I could see Spurs play. Lame excuse if you really want to see them you plan and go.

[@mortezz1268]

It's not about them being from the other side of the world it's about only the rich people being able to afford that

[@gilly4881]

I am from planet Hoth and I love Spurs.

[@kennethirungu7840]

Jokes aside...the press were stupid to ask that question...and well done for Ange putting that right..

[@sie4431]

Most people buying a season ticket are going to be fairly local, the fans from abroad are just coming once.

[@FIZZYP3P_0.4]

Well said.

[@mickmckpng3153]

My parents left Newcastle for Oz before I was born .... been Toon Army my whole life and sometimes we only get 1 or 2 chances to ever see our club play and will pay whatever it takes.....you can go next week.

[@MoTHFC]

I respect fans coming from abroad but its a FACT that the club is pricing out legacy fans😅 when i walk on the high road, all i see is day trippers and accountants walking around. Where are the local and legacy fans???? They all cant afford these crazy prices. Levy is gentrifying the fanbase by taking away critical fans and replacing them with 'plastic' fans. I will probably get destroyed in comment section but thats the truth😅 you cant deny reality...

[@samuelhakansson6680]

The top PL clubs are essentially just international mega brands at this point, and the people who support them are consumers. They are essentially supporting the McDonalds of football at this point.

[@tavenchang955]

That is me, flew more than 13,000 miles in 5 days just for one football game.

[@LightlySalted734]

Big Ange my Hero

[@milesf_4609]

I went to the spurs wolves game as an English spurs fan. It was incredible to see that the Korean fans that we're there were only there to see their national teams players like son and hwang hee Chan. I don't think they gave a toss who won the game. They were even cheering the wolves team when they came out. I get were the reporter is coming from. But hey ho. It brings revenue into the club

[@MightyRoos]

I call it hypocrisy when owners, managers and players are not locals.

[@김진희-g8i]

I always wait to watch spurs match until12am, 2:30am or 4am Of course I've started support spurs when sonny signed first, I was 13years then. But I totally love this club even if sonny leaves someday

[@nicpreen]

Even Tottenham fans seem to hate Tottenham fans.

[@killericelollies7974]

What really surprises me here is that Tottenham have fans overseas... Mind blown lol

[@JackT21]

They have American fans you thicko and Korean fans think again 😂😂

[@librarygary1618]

Whenever I see the shirt sales graphics for America I'm always floored at Spurs having the most shirt sales in like 2-3 states. Growing up here I'd only ever seen United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Barcelona and Real.

[@peterlangbridge4628]

​@@librarygary1618We're huge in Rhode island.

[@Brzbrngr]

I'm guessing you've never heard of Heung-Min Son who is one of the most popular Asian athletes and most certainly the most popular Asian football player. He's an absolute superstar in South Korea and Asia which is why there are a lot of Tottenham fans there. Also, the concept of international fans being fans of a homegrown player first and foremost which leads them to being fans of a club must be foreign to you as well. Trust me, that happens a lot.

[@BaxterThewall]

Small mind...

[@brianrotich4259]

I love spurs and I am from Kenya

[@whoknew2273]

Man City fans listening outraged 🤣

[@hareshkumarkaliaperumal3165]

Mount has not even scored yet

[@RSSP2000]

I'm a Blackburn supporter from Texas. Started supporting them right after they won the league in '95 because I thought an era of dominance was beginning. If we get relegated I'm going to start supporting Leverkusen

[@StopCrying63]

Why Leverkusen?

[@RSSP2000]

@@StopCrying63 they're entering an era of dominance

[@StopCrying63]

@@RSSP2000 so you just want to win?

[@RSSP2000]

@@StopCrying63 well I'm not a loser

[@StopCrying63]

@@RSSP2000 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you yanks kill me everytime

[@morangedays]

Do other fandoms have the same amount of hate towards intl fans (esp. Asian fans)? Just curious. Especially bcoz Spurs has a Korean captain yet some of the fans still hate "tourists" like that, it's so weird.

[@samuelhakansson6680]

Yes, this is a thing with nearly all top clubs around the world. International fans are usually looked down upon, because they are morons who essentially just support a brand, whereas the locals support their local pride and shared history of their community. Things an international plastic wont understand.

[@herbertjohnston4608]

FFS, where Fulham just meant to turn up and roll over.

[@quixotevd5709]

Ange has sort of both of arms & letter to act as a football master enough.

[@danielstanton7285]

2005 every other pl club " lets grow our international fan base by signing african and asian players" 2019 and spurs are the only club in the modern era to have succesfully delivered this with an asian player......every other fan and journalist " yeh but you just have millions of plastic south korean fans now , we are going to frame that as a bad thing because you are spurs " 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Ellesar925]

Spurs ruined my FPL week. Last time I'm trusting y'all😭

[@bruh-sf4gw]

All well and good saying that but the atmosphere is dying in premier league stadia and it is because of non local fans and the fact you can no longer go to matches every week. The only league where multiple managers have to beg their fans to sing. Its depressing and it's the clubs' fault for pricing out the locals. Football clubs used to be for the benefit of the community, the locals give everything for the club and in return the club fund community projects and play good football to entertain them.

[@reecedoyle2599]

For all you spurs fans when he got angry as being labeled a plastic fan, that's because he's a Liverpool fan and used to come watch the reds😂

[@AnthonySNY]

and what about the fans here who are "passionate" but not rich like Saudi oil money? what a joke.

[@samburrell3288]

I am living overseas so haven't seen much of Sky Sports lately. I can't believe how scruffy the presenters now look. Get a freaking suit on. Why are we lowering standards rather than raising them. It makes them seem more relatable to the slobs who can't dress themselves I guess

[@colinturner4158]

Ridiculous question

[@grandadneal8114]

My arsenal tattoo all over my back doesn't come off in the wash.....i live in NZ and have been getting up at 3am for decades to watch arsenal games....if that's not commitment then I don't know what is.

[@samuelhakansson6680]

You can be committed and still be a plastic. Being a plastic is not defined by whether or not you are consistent, its determined by having no part in the very real geographical community ties that the club represents. And of course you support a club like Arsenal, plastic fans nearly always tend to pick one of the top clubs in the world. You are a plastic, own it.

[@grandadneal8114]

@@samuelhakansson6680 what a lowbrow comment. So anyone who doesn't live under the shadow of the stadium is plastic? Plastic fans are surely those who flip flop their loyalties depending on who's on top any given year?

[@samuelhakansson6680]

@@grandadneal8114 No, thats a glory hunter. And yes, anyone who doesnt support their local side (with the possible exception of following the side where their parents are from) is a plastic. Plastic because the connection between the club and the "fan" is artificial. Plastic fans tend to in 99% of cases to choose a successful team (not necessarily one that wins every time, but a top team nevertheless), and they are essentially just consumers that are supporting an international megabrand at this point. There is nothing commendable about that, its just hollow once you scrape at the surface of it.

[@nielsjunker1487]

COYS 🤍💙🇩🇰

[@drewbishop9090]

i promise you there are no “plastic” spurs fans😂

[@funincatalonia]

What a man ,ttid

[@jameshodgson9875]

Should get this man in parliament

[@richardbowie1243]

I wish I can post the crazy all game singing videos of Sydney Spurs fans watching Spurs games at the Surry Hills Pub at 1am in the morning . I wish that reporter had the guts to ask that question to the 300 diehard fans there and see if he comes out alive 😅

[@didnaeknowyehaditinye2813]

They’re just making it more expensive for those who have to pay to travel to watch from abroad then? 😂 the point wasn’t if they’re plastic or not, the point is they hike the prices up so locals probably can’t afford it but people abroad will pay it once or twice a season.

[@Pricelessmile]

Don't really understand the whole "pricing out local fans". It's London, most of them have to be pretty well off to live there, it's not like they're from Sheffield or something lol

[@rimemariner]

This is why I won't be an English Soccer fan because the English don't like or want us. Meanwhile we welcome English fans of our sports like NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB.

[@johnmonteiro5825]

Cry

[@billy4eyes512]

It's bordering on racism if not bigotry.

[@pearcegreatesteverleftback03]

BATTERED by Fulham🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SoM3tH1nG-G]

worst fans in the EPL too

[@lordbiro]

So cool 😎

[@MrShowbizben]

Why would plastic fans choose to follow a club that never wins anything.

[@favor94]

Its the excitement each time they play, the breathtaking moment, for me to support team that always win is kinda boring and monotone unless you are a local

[@MrShowbizben]

​@favor94 Mate, if you feel that way about the club, you're a real fan, not a plastic fan

[@samuelhakansson6680]

Because they are still a top team internationally, that has a real (even if somewhat minor) chance at winning the EPL, while getting decent chances to play in the UEFA CL. The real question is not why plastics support a club like Tottenham, but why they dont support a club like Luton. The real reason is that Luton is likely to relegate over time, and probably will never win the EPL or qualify for CL. Plastics know that very well.

[@yourma2000]

Support your local team.

[@bunkiebunk]

support whatever you want to support

[@yourma2000]

@@bunkiebunk Says every new Man City supporter.

[@nollienick1121]

I’ll support who ever i want thanks

[@samyaksambuddha2338]

So your club should be only made up of local members. Remove all foreign players and managers.

[@yourma2000]

@@samyaksambuddha2338 I never said that but why the hell not? That would stop game being dominated by the same old teams buying the best players and force teams to give as many local kids a chance in any effort to find local talent, not to mention having teams actually represent the locality they name themselves after.

[@M1gs]

who cares about spurs lol

[@Perry.Francis]

It’s true. Clubs don’t care about local fans who are the core of the fan base

[@Wantali]

When you say core, is a non local fan lesser than the ‘core’?

[@HoneyBunny-z1v]

Core? Do you know that most revenue comes from international fans?

[@HoneyBunny-z1v]

​@Wantali I hope he knows the majority of the club's revenue comes from the international market in the shape of TV rights and merchandise sales.

[@Wantali]

@@HoneyBunny-z1v I don’t think he does. The reason we have parachute payments is the TV rights and sponsorship deals. Mostly shown on television. Apart from that it is also the hospitality packages sold to the 1%ers. A premier club would never survive on local fans alone.

[@HoneyBunny-z1v]

@Wantali exactly! I hope he sees your comments and does some research on Google.

[@mattyrjackson4261]

They’re not “proper” fans though. They don’t know the local culture of the area and club because they’re not from there. Someone who lives a 10 minute walk from the stadium however is obviously closer to the action. He also missed the point about football tourists

[@ifldiscovery8500]

Loc culture of the area does not show on the pitch. Abroad fans pay the bills you don't.

[@nollienick1121]

Someone’s insecure. We watch for the team. Why would I care about the local area outside of the club?

[@mattyrjackson4261]

@@nollienick1121 because that’s what feeds into the chants, and the knowledge of the clubs’ history. It’s only natural that someone who lives local is more exposed to the ‘actual’ club and not just a TV show. Fair enough if you move to an area and then become a fan of your local club, but to be a “fan” thousands of miles away it just means it’ll only ever been seen in 2D to you.

[@mattyrjackson4261]

@@ifldiscovery8500 well no it’s the TV rights and sponsorships because of capitalism. Yes local culture doesn’t show on the pitch because that’s all TV show-watching fans ever see. They aren’t exposed to the crowd in a physical sense (which is way more different than hearing it through a TV speaker), the fan pubs, the pre and postmatch chats outside the ground after, the fan-player meet and greets, the awaydays (the travel of which are a big sense of community for football fans in England, which you can only ever get from being a local). If you move to an area then become a fan of your local that makes sense as you’re also exposed to the club on a more intimate level than just a 2D LED image, or the odd visit once a season.

[@marty1459]

Ange is incredibly touchy isn't he?

[@AB15151]

He’s educating as he goes

[@christianhill2088]

No

[@thfccfht]

plastic fans are the Glory Hunters who follow clubs that consistently win either through cheating or bending the rules...we all know who you are.