That STATS are out? T11 Normal and Heroic, 10 and 25? Which is easier, Which is harder?!

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[@TomDoddy]

We did only halfus hc (no trys on other bosses). Then halfus, omnotron and atramedes. This week were looking at maloriak and chimeron. Its been alright so far, its one of those were when everyone finally clicks its an easy kill. Struggle, struggle, struggle, clean easy kill.

[@robertpindar-ark5222]

I agree the difference is huge between normal and heroic. You 1 shot all normal bosses but when you spend an hour progressing a boss change it to normal then it falls over

[@begerbingchilling]

i think chimaeron being "difficult" stems from the wotlk mentality of healers, specifically holy paladins, who are spamming flash of light and going oom within the first massacre

[@Variia]

What an odd thing to say

[@Shikaradin66]

The punishing loot table on 10m will widen the divide over coming weeks. It feels so horrendous progging a heroic 10m boss and then getting two pieces of loot total and having to DE both. If this happens a few times each reset, the 10m raiders fall way behind (and with the increased cadence, might be in a lot of trouble for firelands)

[@mijae1146]

Yeah we've had to DE a few pieces already as well :(

[@mac2375]

Hey it would be nice an in depth guide for enhancement shaman, there is no much out there and would make quite a few views

[@joeburke4718]

Our guild went in week 1 just wanting to push over everything on normal and get some more gear as we only had a couple of hours on PTR. Week 2 we got halfus HC down and some decent pulls on magmaw, atramedes and conclave HC. This week we're definitely going to focus on atramedes and magmaw, probably looking to omnitron and chimaeron the week after.

[@mijae1146]

Nice!

[@joeburke4718]

@@mijae1146 Love the videos mate, been super helpful. Keep it up

[@riggz_gaming]

The stats are cool to see. I do think that users reading this need to remind themselves on the heroic kills / pulls stat is hiding any pserver and beta prog which would majorly inflate some of this stats.

[@mijae1146]

oh 100%

[@H4licarnassus]

It makes sense to me sinestra pull count is low because the only guilds that can even attempt it are ones that beat all the others. You can wipe 100 times on council pushes those averages up and you won't see sinestra.

[@mijae1146]

Yeah definatley

[@tomdavison9847]

You don't actually have to do ascendant council on hc, you just need cho'gall. It seems quite a few people don't realise this and it is pushing down the Sinestra kills

[@itsResume]

25m N trash seems overtuned