That Suspension on the Neapolitan - And what Scriabin's gotta do with it…

Video by Michael Koch
#9th #Scriabin

[@bargledargle7941]

Damn, this Neapolitan suspension gives a very specific kind of character. I wish there was a book containing many different strong characters like this one to see them side by side. By the way your improvisation was wonderful, very informative also.

[@juliendespois508]

That's what I'm trying to do (more or less) with my website "the library of sonorities"! I'm looking into this specific chord at the moment, it's striking but very hard to find.

[@bargledargle7941]

@@juliendespois508 Wonderful, I checked out your site and it's brilliant.

[@hugo54758]

I got your channel recommended today, good day

[@squishyrrr]

your videos are a real gem on youtube thanks for sharing your knowledge

[@ramonaquileshernandezbernal]

I like Scriabin music. Very good improvisation with chords

[@Jerkyhammerstopwatch]

Herr Koch also exposes us to pretty lamps for our edification every now and again! I've been struck by two so far! Thanks!

[@en-blanc-et-noir]

Ehre!

[@erickramirez5483]

Thanks for the video about Scriabin, I'm Soo happy to have more things to study about him ❤

[@NicoIlViolinista]

I remember when I asked for a video on Skrjabin. Thank you very much, man. Fancy harmonic motions there, anyway...

[@controlledchaos8481]

Wow, you are good. Bravo

[@MarcPlaysPiano]

Huh, I never paid attention to that Scriabin prelude at 1:15…but man, it’s really cool. Sad but chill vibes indeed!

[@clubpenguinfan1928]

What a fantastic sonority, I gotta look up more examples now. Your improv is brilliant as usual

[@fifibg]

BRAVO AMAZING!

[@rjdubu1485]

Love all your videos. Great work. You keeping making them, I’ll keep on watching and slowly learning. Thanks :)

[@molaso]

Excelente!!!!

[@giampierogirolamo7134]

Brillant channel

[@jreubens1]

SO cool

[@counterpointenthusiast]

skrjabin is the best, gonna use that one myself as well! heartbreaking.

[@lupash]

Wonderful video. That suspension is something else, but what actually caught my attention is the next chord after that, which appears to me to be one of the very first uses of a 7b5. I'm particularly fond of that chord, it's used in pop music (most complex and crafty songs perhaps) and before that I traced it back to some pianists making it popular in jazz, from Art Tatum to Thelonious Monk (who had his own special way to use it, without resolving the b5 tension at all). I'm curious if that chord ever happens or appears used that way before Scriabin. (I'm sure it does, specially in the most impressionistic works. - If not, this right here is a good catch). Cheers!

[@musical_lolu4811]

Lydian suspensions (#4 - 3) are very uplifting/brightening. They can come off as cliché if one's not musically tactful and tasteful though.

[@en-blanc-et-noir]

like Wagner LOL😌

[@Mazurking]

Very talented

[@kemarcummings1555]

Can you please explain to me what is the Chopin dominant chord?

[@en-blanc-et-noir]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIrPmJ-OaMumrLs check this one

[@thekeyoflifepiano]

At 2:58, you said, "Now if this isn't a total bummer." I don't think that's what you meant. bummer: a thing that is annoying or disappointing. Or a homeless person. English is hard and I'm a native speaker.

[@en-blanc-et-noir]

Oh dear😂😂 I see! Thanks man.. I meant sth like ‚downer‘…

[@RaptorT1V]

Is it just me, or is this the first time you've ever shown your face.

[@en-blanc-et-noir]

ney… You can actually see me in several vidz

[@nhukhoavn123]

what is name of pice at 3:33, plz?

[@en-blanc-et-noir]

that piece is basically an improv etude: I took that cadence that I showed right at the beginning and transposed it via modulating up a 5th each time and some stuff after I reached g# minor to go back to the initial key of e minor that I started with

[@nhukhoavn123]

@@en-blanc-et-noir thank u so much. So that is your own improv etude?

[@en-blanc-et-noir]

yo... basically when you browse through the channel you'll see a lot of similar exercises on all kinds of patterns

[@arthurlaguette7773]

2:30, G flat, for the next time you play it !

[@worldmusictheory]

Would you ever consider making a video on climactic moments within the works of Sergei Rachmaninoff?

[@krabcanon]

2:25 g flat instead of g natural

[@en-blanc-et-noir]

YOOO! whoops! you're absolutely right... I just played what I'm used to play when this chord appears... thanks! :D

[@krabcanon]

@@en-blanc-et-noir actually I made the same mistake when I first played it! Great video anyways!

[@krabcanon]

With all those accidentals in that measure it's easy to forget about the ones that are already in the key signature...

[@rogerparton8572]

I came here to say this

[@lightofgoing]

why do classical musicians rarely play quintuplets as… quintuplets? they usually surrender to a sextuplet feel, the first note lingering for two pulses of a even sixth division, then filling the remaining 4 notes with four sixths.

[@en-blanc-et-noir]

lol my impression is that you're not asking a genuine question but rather more want to convey the idea that 1) a true or accurate playing would be an exact, mathematical division of the quintuplet, 2) "classical musicians" are lacking a level of musicianship that allows them to count porperly and 3) but you - presumably a jazz musician - got the auditive sensibility to recognoize and point at these clumsy habits... why do jazz musicians rarely play a line of straight eighth notes... as eighth notes? Becasue they surrender to a swing feel??? Dude what I'm trying to say is: it is kinda naive to simply apply the aesthetic norms of one stylistic sphere (here whatever "jazz") to another one (late romantic piano music) and to think that this is the law I just stumbled upon this comment and if I got it all wrong, leave an objection cheers

[@dominicirving]

You’re right, I’ve noticed this as well. Especially if the quintuplet figure is a ‘turn’ ornament, a classical player will unconsciously lengthen the first note - as you say, locking into a familiar sextuplet grid. There’s a fine line between expressive rubato and simply playing the wrong rhythm.

[@en-blanc-et-noir]

@@dominicirving jaja

[@musical_lolu4811]

They might just be applying agogic accents on certain notes. Nothing to fuss about, except if you're some purist who views the music and performance as sacrosanct.

[@ethanmulvihill7177]

I agree there's a massive difference between quintuplets and sextuplets. It isn't a stylistic thing. If it was meant to be played in sextuplet time, it would have been written that way.