That Time Disney (shouldn't have) Dropped A Billion Dollar Franchise

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@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings Жыл бұрын
It’s still wild to me how what should have been a reliable, solid franchise got undermined (summer release for PC) and tossed aside by Disney. It’s a book series with so much potential, but seems undervalued at every turn. They haven’t even released the films on 4k and the EE of LWW is only on DVD! 🤦‍♂️ Great video, btw! 😁 Apologies for the rant. 😂
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Whoa it’s Nerd of the Rings! Hey no need to apologize haha, I think you summed it up perfectly: “Undervalued at every turn” Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!
@wyattcole5452
@wyattcole5452 11 ай бұрын
@@mythwest 1:45 is that the best example of the music bc that’s pretty generic
@makingthestorybetter
@makingthestorybetter Жыл бұрын
I trust Netflix and modern Disney to handle Narnia with the same amount of trust I have for the government to not tax me.
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Understandable haha
@Luka1180
@Luka1180 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Tax is theft. Unless you're rich.
@danielramsey6141
@danielramsey6141 Жыл бұрын
We’re not talking about now. We’re talking about how They should’ve kept it going.
@uzumaki5277
@uzumaki5277 Жыл бұрын
@@danielramsey6141I haven’t seen Narnia in forever but I do recall the movies being certified BANGERS
@NCC1371
@NCC1371 Жыл бұрын
​@@Luka1180 theft is theft regardless of wealth.
@Brizwho
@Brizwho Жыл бұрын
I couldn't have written a better love letter to these movies. I grew up with both the books and movies, and it's always made me sad that we never got to see more of the story on screen. It was a core part of my imagination as a kid, and I love revisiting it as an adult. Adam's vision of Narnia was so tangible and draws you in with each rewatch. Hearing that Netflix and Greta were working on something new with Narnia made me...nervous. I'm right there with you wishing Disney would take the rights back.
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
It’s just so poetic that Disney picked a director literally named “Adam’s-son” (Adamson) aka “Son of Adam”. I’m so glad to see ppl 20 yrs later now regarding it as another comfort watch like Lotr, it’s so deserved
@ohifonlyx33
@ohifonlyx33 Жыл бұрын
You actually WANT... Of all studios... you want DISNEY in the year of 2024... to take on Christian Children's Author C.S. Lewis's works? I'm a LOTR fan, and I know the apprehension of bad spin-offs and awkward prequels all too well. But Disney is among the worst when it comes to making bland, mediocre, and occasionally downright offensive content in the name of a certain brand of liberalism that I think would clash awfully with Lewis's themes.
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
I feel your caution. Disney is quite different than the Disney that adapted it in 2005, and I fear they might not let a passionate fan like Adamson do it Justice again without meddling with the project. But if they give a great director free reign and their leadership was committed to a great adaptation first, I’d be hopeful. Maybe a little wishful of me but at least it has happened in the mid 2000’s, even if the company is different
@heitorpedrodegodoi5646
@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 Жыл бұрын
@@ohifonlyx33 Well they already toned down some Lewis ideias in the Santa scene, theres some things in Lewis writtings that may not age well in the current era.
@chrisdorris5496
@chrisdorris5496 Жыл бұрын
@@ohifonlyx33 It could be a return to form for Disney. Something does need to change because the recent financial failures aren’t sustainable for more than a few years. If they could win back family-oriented viewers, they might survive.
@effys7810
@effys7810 Жыл бұрын
its so good to hear people appreciate the phenomenal soundtrack that harry gregson williams wrote, "for narnia and for aslan" with that music in the background changed my dna for real
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
“Changed my DNA” is my new favorite expression haha
@Pocketkid2
@Pocketkid2 Жыл бұрын
The first two Narnia movies are a big part of my childhood, very nostalgic, and Prince Caspian was the first movie I can remember watching in theaters
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Same, first movie was my first movie in theaters
@TheBc99
@TheBc99 Жыл бұрын
Oh no I'm old
@wyattcole5452
@wyattcole5452 Жыл бұрын
Never got into them, same with the books
@ethankoetsier
@ethankoetsier Жыл бұрын
@@wyattcole5452 You should certainly try the books again. I loved reading them as a kid and loved listening to the audiobooks while commuting as an adult. They are really written for all ages which is fantastic. That's unlike some other books like Percy Jackson that were great as a kid, but that i can no longer read as an adult because of how simplistic the language is.
@wyattcole5452
@wyattcole5452 Жыл бұрын
@@ethankoetsier even when I was 10 Percy Jackson was too cheesy for me in its simplistic language, I was the kinda kid that read Great Illustrated Classics and older stuff that was dumbed-down for kids more, so technically my first chapter book was Moby Dick 😂
@marymellas5548
@marymellas5548 Жыл бұрын
Recently rewatched The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe and I couldn't believe how good Aslan still looks. They got just the right amount of realistic features while still allowing him to have very natural-looking and emotive facial expressions. Still don't understand why they didn't use him as a model when making the newer Lion King.
@SIMON_SAYS_SO
@SIMON_SAYS_SO Жыл бұрын
The Lion King ($1,663,075,401) made more than double what The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe ($745,013,115) made. Both movies were good but Aslan was a lion that could talk as were all the creatures in Narnia. Simba and the animals talking was just the audience understanding what animal talk was and not them actually talking so they made the animals in Lion King have expressions primal animals have instead of what sentient animals have. We should appreciate both for what they are and how they are different rather than them being the same. I do wish the Narnia stories had more viewers but not as many people are as familiar with the source material.
@Jedimack7
@Jedimack7 Жыл бұрын
@@SIMON_SAYS_SO nah that live action money grab was a worse rendition of the movie it was based on, they effectively took things out of the animated movie.
@Wriath9
@Wriath9 Жыл бұрын
​@@SIMON_SAYS_SOlion king live action made more but not double if you adjust for inflation. But box office doesn't matter about reusing a cgi model or method if it still looks great.
@JonathanPaper
@JonathanPaper Жыл бұрын
​@@Wriath9The Lion King has in recent years been a multi billion franchise, including the Broadway show which has been staged in many parts of the world. So it's no surprise that the 'not live action but look how great our cgi is, it looks like live action' adaptation was successful. I guess we many fans wanted more HEART in it and facial expressions would've helped. It's kind of like if Hollywood remade a really successful movie like Avatar - people would go see it to see what it was like (of course they're not going to remake Avatar now since they're still doing sequels, but it's an example).
@rachellelamberti6082
@rachellelamberti6082 Жыл бұрын
I still can’t believe that we could have gotten an atrocious 90s version of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe 😆
@LadyDecember
@LadyDecember Жыл бұрын
My morbid curiosity is getting the better of me and I _almost_ want to visit the alternate universe where this movie got made, just to experience such a spectacular insult to both literary adaptation and cinema...
@MrPGC137
@MrPGC137 Жыл бұрын
However atrocious the 90s version might've been, it couldn't possibly have been any worse than the absolutely *ghastly* animated version from 1979. With a combination of bad drawing, cheesy, low-budget animation & voice-acting that was either wooden or so over-the-top it would've been considered overkill for Saturday Morning cartoons, the result was virtually unwatchable. Worst of all, it jammed the story into an hour & a half viewing-time. Dreadful!
@tnvol2011
@tnvol2011 Жыл бұрын
The 80’s/90’s versions are a whole lot better. No CGI ☺️☺️
@grinningtiki220
@grinningtiki220 Жыл бұрын
A radical Lion on a skateboard would have been super rad dude
@NewSonyWonderHappyMadisonFan
@NewSonyWonderHappyMadisonFan Жыл бұрын
@@tnvol2011 No one asked.
@robertbarga3694
@robertbarga3694 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was an absolute crime not to have continued this series. The first Narnia Film was one of the most surprising movie experience I've ever had and went so much harder than I ever expected.
@Captainhexpaine
@Captainhexpaine Жыл бұрын
The rest of the novels are shit.
@JZStudiosonline
@JZStudiosonline Жыл бұрын
I read all the books and aside from the 3 they adapted, though the Dawn Treader was adapted poorly, they're very hard to follow
@thomasgries704
@thomasgries704 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad to see Narnia had such an impact on so many people! It was the first series I fell in love with. So much so that as a kid, I felt “homesick” for a place that didn’t exist. The score, the story, the characters, the production design: all of it combined into something truly magical that touched me to my core. Just hearing that music again gave me chills. Thanks for giving this often overlooked masterpiece the coverage it deserves!
@georgemedina7209
@georgemedina7209 Жыл бұрын
Stepping into Narnia for the first time in2005 was almost like stepping into Hogarts in 2001.
@Mindstormer
@Mindstormer Жыл бұрын
Yeah I love rewatching these, but every time it leaves a pit in my stomach to know it never got to see it being finished. This is one series I really want to see complete. But unfortunately I don’t think we will. I still love the first movie to the bottom of my heart. It one of my most favorite movies to date and its kinda just been great growing up with it.
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
I feel you man. I doubt we’ll get to ever see them finished out, and it’ll hurt to see Netflix paint right over them with their new movies. But I guess I’m glad we at least got to experience the magic of the first ones. Still does hurt tho haha
@sethjones5250
@sethjones5250 Жыл бұрын
They should start with the magicians nephew
@andrewgilbertson5672
@andrewgilbertson5672 Жыл бұрын
They had a serialized adaptation of TLWWW in black and white British television in the 60s (mostly lost today). An animated TLWWW in the last 70s. The BBC Wonderworks adaptations of the first four (which are the closer adaptations in my book, but who can't match the Disney series production values or, as mention, magnificent film score). And then Disney's two with Fox's third follow-up. I don't trust Netflix with this series. AT ALL. But it would be nice to at least see the curse broken and all seven books adapted, for once. :-) For for that matter, I'd even take someone figuring out how to adapt Prince Caspian the right way. I don't think anyone's really got that one right yet. It is a challenging book.
@Nargon46
@Nargon46 Жыл бұрын
They need to make Horse and His Boy pronto! It would literally be so easy of an adaptation because it's very cinematic in its own right
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Right???
@chantrystarr4345
@chantrystarr4345 Жыл бұрын
It really was the best book…
@lukeporras1288
@lukeporras1288 Жыл бұрын
It’s the best book, but also widely considered the most offensive lol. In our modern age, I don’t think we’ll ever get a true adaptation free of serious tampering.
@danielstreeter6738
@danielstreeter6738 Жыл бұрын
​​@@lukeporras1288Not to mention that any studio executive that had even heard of it would probably dismiss it as a pointless side story since its stakes and main characters are so self-contained. But yeah, I feel like the quality of the characterization and storytelling of it are underrated. It definitely earns its place in the series.
@josephivenegas
@josephivenegas Жыл бұрын
All adaptation is translation. Things are lost, things are found. If they nail the breathtaking desert vistas, fantastic new characters, and, of course, ASLAN... what's a few tweaked elements here and there, for modern sensibilities? It's still going to be a fantasy caricature of the Middle East, but maybe just... remove the bit where their evil priests worship an evil soul-eating shadow demon? I mean I guess that's the same demon that eats the Antichrist's monkey in the final book, but even so is it really so bad to remove it here? Just seems a little... aggressive. Like yeah this country doesn't really know or like Narnians and by proxy Aslan... but devil-worshippers? Really? Where do they even get the idea from? I don't think the White Witch ever got this far south. Unless she did and the weather was just, way nicer back then? I guess??? Might be nice to expand on that. To some degree, hopefully. Assuming we'll have the time. Maybe it all leads back to the Silver Chair... But it's not like Calormen is **supposed** to be some exotic place full of adventures. It's supposed to be a sucky dry dead place! With slaves! And NO talking animals. We aren't even focusing too much time in this country proper anyway! Our heroes are trying to get out, and the only way out is by desert! That said, I wouldn't be against them adding the more "Egyptian"-flavored fantasy creatures into some of the wider, wilder desert scenes, like a lone sphinx hissing at a five-headed cobra, maybe some black griffins circling overhead like vultures, ghostly jackals and chimera, laughing among the tombs, only to vanish at first sight of man... And desert spirits, like the dryads and naiads of the verdant North, but made of windblown sand instead. You know, for the *atmosphere.* Just because we aren't in Narnia Proper, doesn't mean we aren't still in ****NARNIA****. Of course these creatures should NEVER talk, especially not with any of our main characters, at least not directly, since that would break a MASSIVE core element of the book, which is the delight of discovering **Oh wow this horse is SPECIAL because he's a NARNIAN horse which means he can TALK!!!**
@kathleent4291
@kathleent4291 Жыл бұрын
“Just a little creativity” is asking too much of Disney these days
@matthiasneidenberger9471
@matthiasneidenberger9471 Жыл бұрын
Creativity? Why don’t you just give a vampire a plate of garlic bread with some holy water to wash it down?
@User2024.0ap
@User2024.0ap Жыл бұрын
​@@matthiasneidenberger9471 Lol😂
@Rikrik1138
@Rikrik1138 Жыл бұрын
Then Disney adds a bunch of politically correct crap, raping the story.
@annawenrich
@annawenrich Жыл бұрын
Laughed so hard on the Centaur/Yeah Buddy bits!!! And the IMAX sound effects for the summer 2008 box office bit! I love Narnia both the books and the films and would LOVE to see the 2005 cast return for any adaptation, whether Netflix or otherwise.
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!! Had so much fun putting those montages together haha
@Pantheragem
@Pantheragem Жыл бұрын
Say what one will about "Voyage of the Dawn Treader", but the depature of Reepicheep is cinematic excellence.
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
I have to agree, that whole sequence was perfect
@krislyons2793
@krislyons2793 Жыл бұрын
This video really reminded me how well-crafted those first two movies are. Like genuinely, you could make an argument that they're some of the best book-to-movie adaptations, with many of the scenes being even better than the source material. Andrew Adamson really doesn't get enough credit.
@qmyers367
@qmyers367 Жыл бұрын
The wit and editing of this video is insane. The interesting perspectives in these video essays this channel posts are original thought. Not regurgitated ideas and thoughts others have worn out. What a banger video.
@Hwilki
@Hwilki Жыл бұрын
Oh how I have longed for Disney to resume their Narnia series!!! I kept hoping from 2012-2018 that The Silver Chair would come to fruition… but we all know how that went. Rather than start a new series, I would love to see the original actors, Weta, and everyone else involved with the first three films come back and be able to finish what they so beautifully started.
@iquest9701
@iquest9701 Жыл бұрын
Very good video! I haven't seen a lot of video essays about Narnia in a positive perspective. But I'm glad to see more people showing there love for this franchise.
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah many ppl seem to take the “it was doomed to fail” angle which I think is a bit on the pessimistic side. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@iquest9701
@iquest9701 Жыл бұрын
@@mythwest I also found your video incredibly funny! I laughed out loud during the fake Narnia spin-off titles.
@misseli1
@misseli1 Жыл бұрын
I hadn't read the books yet when Disney's "Prince Caspian" was released and even *I* was confused by the romance between Caspian and Susan. "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" was a weaker film but at least they hinted at Caspian's feelings for Ramandu's Daughter, his only canonical love interest.
@Telmarine55
@Telmarine55 Жыл бұрын
VDT is visually the most beautiful of the Narnia films. I would have made a different VDT film, but I can still appreciate it for what it is. They should’ve embellished the Caspian-Lilliandil romance instead of the Susan romance.
@TannerCharlesYT
@TannerCharlesYT Жыл бұрын
The humor you put in this video is so good - please don’t stop 😂
@jameswilson3370
@jameswilson3370 Жыл бұрын
“Cosmic epicness of the Last Battle” well said, my friend. Well said. Never even realized that about all the actors being the right age for the other movie adaptations. 😮 Would love for Disney to pick Narnia back up. To be fair, Narnia is definitely the OG multiverse. In theory, it sounds like a great idea to expand on this. But like you said, it’s just going to be milked as a cash cow instead of enhancing the franchise.
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Like there’s so much potential with Lewis’s Wood Between The Worlds to jump into all sorts of worlds, but then Lewis has such a distinctive excellent style, it’s just impossible to reproduce. Kinda wish magicians nephew could’ve been adapted earlier since the multiverse thing is becoming so common but Lewis did it so long ago before it was popular
@jameswilson3370
@jameswilson3370 Жыл бұрын
@@mythwest I kinda feel like Netflix is going to start with The Magicians Nephew just to be distinct from Disney. It’ll be interesting to see how it all pans out, especially with Greta Gerwig directing it. You’re totally right though - the books are so distinctive and it’s hard to have faith that someone will maintain that style. I’m afraid any new adaptarions might be sort of saturated with political correctness and “modern” ideas.
@reviewers183
@reviewers183 Жыл бұрын
You do not want Disney touching marina again trust me
@ethanbibile
@ethanbibile Жыл бұрын
For as much as I love fantasy, Narnia as a franchise really just passed me by. All the little details you highlighted though really make me want to go and watch the films that do exist
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Imo it’s well worth it. It’s not quite the darker more intense fantasy flavor of Lotr but it’s got its own magic and is still mostly visually stunning, even after 18 yrs. At the very least worth it for the battle scene at the end which objectively ranks up there in the top cinema fantasy battles
@breabrit3248
@breabrit3248 Жыл бұрын
If you're a fantasy lover then you should definitely watch at least the first two. As he said they really do rank high in fantasy battles.
@MBJ829
@MBJ829 Жыл бұрын
I loved watching the narnia movies growing up. The first narnia is my favorite because of a scene where Tilda Swinton’s character slapped one of the main characters😆😭.
@misseli1
@misseli1 Жыл бұрын
I like your idea of Disney picking up where they left off with the old cast. However, if that doesn't work out, I would love to see the books adapted into an animated tv or film series.
@OctagonalSquare
@OctagonalSquare Жыл бұрын
7:16 it really did! He killed that role, as evidenced by the fact that I literally couldn’t take him seriously in any other role for years because he was so annoying as Eustace
@Alastherra
@Alastherra Жыл бұрын
You're not lying about the soundtrack. To this day I remember how I ran from school to catch the first movie on screen, and it being so early in the afternoon I ended up being alone in the cinema. And walking away from it humming the Battle theme. Made me cry last year when I heard it performed live by our movie orchestra - funnily enough in the same building that played the entrance to the London underground at the beginning of Prince Caspian, which I watched being filmed at said location on my way home from school. Good times 😊💙
@aNeighbour
@aNeighbour 11 ай бұрын
I will never forgive Disney for failing to complete my childhood series....
@scoops929
@scoops929 Жыл бұрын
Yeah actually any and all Narnia films can still work if Disney went back to it. The Pevinsies are *never* children ever again in the franchise- only their monarch forms from the end of Wardrobe and their real-life adult selves. The other two are Silver Chair and Magician’s Nephew, not featuring them. The only logistical issue is Eustace needing to appear as a kid again, and Will Poulter being a rather distinct actor. But if they can find a worthy successor, there you go.
@benjamingentile1660
@benjamingentile1660 Жыл бұрын
My favorite part of Greta Gerwig being attached to “direct” is that she is a writer/director-everything she’s directed and some of what she’s acted in, she’s written. So why is she only attached as a director and not a writer/director? Well… it’s probably because she made this deal in the middle of the writers’ strike so the announcement that she’s going to be writing them too will come later… which was (probably) always the plan and something discussed in the middle of the strike but never put down on paper.
@bruno78392
@bruno78392 Жыл бұрын
​@@smolithey hired a radical feminist to direct one of the most openly christian childrens story... what could go wrong???
@Nio744
@Nio744 4 ай бұрын
Is it wierd that I kind of wanna see what comes out of it ? I mean if it's anything like the Barbie movie tonewise.. are we gonna see a self-aware Narnia ? Are they gonna talk about the problematic aspects of the books ? I'm not saying it's gonna be good but I am interested in what direction they are gonna go with this.
@PikeTheFalcon
@PikeTheFalcon Жыл бұрын
I really like the calm voice inter spliced with metal music as the war centaurs are going ham. I can tell you put a lot of love into this.
@qmyers367
@qmyers367 Жыл бұрын
I noticed that too 😂
@InfectiousGroovePodcast
@InfectiousGroovePodcast Жыл бұрын
I've never been a big book reader BUT The Lion, The Witch and The Waredrobe was a book I read over and over as a kid. I had EVERYTHING in the book in my mind. Some how, some way, the movie looked, sounded and felt exactly like I imagined it as a kid. I had such high hopes for the series and then......well you video covers the rest.
@Snoopydoop
@Snoopydoop 11 ай бұрын
Great video! It's very refreshing to see people with a finger on the pulse, since book to movie adaptations of all sorts are being discussed everywhere
@danielblom391
@danielblom391 Жыл бұрын
A good adaptation of the Silver Chair or even The Last Battle would be very cool though. The stories are so weird and dark, and given the already darker tones of Prince Caspian and Dawn Treader it could be something to see. And of course so we can see a Last Battle that has more armored centaurs and minotaurs and fauns and all the trees and river spirits and the stars falling from the skies to join a massive brawl to end the world
@TemporaryTemporary-y2j
@TemporaryTemporary-y2j Жыл бұрын
Oddly the thing I remember the most about the first Narnia movie which I watched in a Hall was the toward the beginning, when the children had boarded the train and once it had started moving, the background music had a woman singing something like "....wannnn yaaaaaa...." and then there were tinkles of notes of some sort of stringed instrument that sounded like a santoor/dulcimer/harp before the string section swelled.
@HLOFloZ
@HLOFloZ Жыл бұрын
Yes! And the big tuba was blasting off at measure 17! 🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🤪💨💨💨💨💨💨⭐️
@volbound1700
@volbound1700 Жыл бұрын
It was actually a shock (even back in the day) that Disney even took on Narnia. It is no secret that CS Lewis was a Christian and Narnia is steep in Christian Lore including Aslan being a representation of Christ in the original one. The Disney Narnias didn't even skate around it, it is there from the Professor talking to the Pevansie children to Aslan's death. This made the movie work. It was true to the actual vision and content of CS Lewis. Disney is far too political today to ever do a film with meaning like that. Heck, they seemed even too political back then.
@uncladoutlaw4438
@uncladoutlaw4438 Жыл бұрын
I love stumbling across a lovable KZbinr with a good sense of humor! Great vid mate!
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@camwedel
@camwedel Жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC video! You played perfectly to Nostalgia and painted the ideal picture of what could be. Aslan willing.
@illinoismotionpicturestudi5065
@illinoismotionpicturestudi5065 Жыл бұрын
3:58-4:14 Made my week. I didn't know I needed to see that, but I'm so glad I did
@MatthewCaunsfield
@MatthewCaunsfield Жыл бұрын
Very interesting speculations on the future of Narnia - as you say in the vid, we can only hope that it ends up in the hands of a film maker who actually loves the material!
@Levicandoit
@Levicandoit Жыл бұрын
*Those battle scenes still rip hard af. My big ass family did our part to keep Narnia going. We watched it 3 times in the theaters.*
@caleb.a.robinson
@caleb.a.robinson Жыл бұрын
Best video yet! Interestingly, I've been working on an essay of the same topic!
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Thanks! And I just checked out your channel and dang man you’ve got some great stuff, keep up the good work and I’ll be waiting for your Narnia essay!
@daniellfiigueired0
@daniellfiigueired0 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing video analysis. Loved every single second of it.
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed!
@aliciasorenson3807
@aliciasorenson3807 Жыл бұрын
As an adult, Prince Caspian was my fav movie out of all those you listed, saw it twice in theaters, it's too bad they pushed it to the summer! And i agree the 3rd is not as good as the first 2, but my kids LOVE it. They love and watch all 3 all the time!
@Darkside_1994
@Darkside_1994 Жыл бұрын
Something a Narnia adaptation can NEVER leave out is the obvious Christian themes & imagery. The books are an allegory, and are the core to the series. If you remove that, you might as well not adapt it.
@Prodigious1One
@Prodigious1One Жыл бұрын
LOL, I like your addition of music to the battle scenes!
@kristian_johnson87
@kristian_johnson87 Жыл бұрын
Narnia was one of my favorite movies and I am reading the books to my son. When I found out Netflix has the rights to it, my heart dropped much like when i found out about the last Airbender on Netflix. Feels bad
@doubleflores8350
@doubleflores8350 4 ай бұрын
Honestly though, with how Voyage ended, I feel like even the filmmakers knew this was gonna be the last in the series, which I think is fine. Narnia works better a trilogy anyways cause the books get WEIRD after Voyage. In the end, I’m glad the movie franchise ended with our heroes NOT dying in a train crash like the books did. So I can headcanon that out human characters don’t die and live happily ever after. LET ME BELIEVE.
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 Жыл бұрын
Your care and appreciation for the source material and adaptations really come through in this video!
@ghostridergunship
@ghostridergunship Жыл бұрын
Just waiting for them to "reimagine it for modern audiences" and then watching the franchise burn to the ground.
@TheShowmanMovies
@TheShowmanMovies Жыл бұрын
Wow really surprised to see the number of viewers after watching this, so well edited. Excellent job. Algorithm just needs to lock in on you!
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Fingers crossed on the algorithm, but at least comments like yours help the algo find this so thanks for that as well!
@thegmanpaints
@thegmanpaints Жыл бұрын
4:23 but oh man oh man this cape is glorious and I need it now
@betterlatethannever4529
@betterlatethannever4529 Жыл бұрын
The irony is that they sold the film rights to Fox, then bought Fox
@Tweed_Tone
@Tweed_Tone Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, I never read the books or dived deep into what happens next in the story. I still wondered where the “next” Narnia film was since I knew there were still more story with the books and all.
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I’d highly recommend a read of the books, you won’t regret it. Though it’s branded as “children’s fantasy” the author personally thought that any children’s literature that only appealed to children was bad literature, and it shows since they’re so enjoyable for any age
@RamonInNZ
@RamonInNZ Жыл бұрын
Read the books..... read the booooooks!!!! 🙂
@andrewgilbertson5672
@andrewgilbertson5672 Жыл бұрын
Okay, the use of the Cars clip around the 8-minute mark made me guffaw out loud. Subscribing.
@danielleblanc4660
@danielleblanc4660 Жыл бұрын
Dang they tried to avoid Water Horse, and got hit with Dark Knight, Iron Man, and Wall-E 😭
@aisarete
@aisarete Жыл бұрын
I've been imagining what I'd want to see - I think your timeline is absolutely perfect. I dearly hope they do something like this
@misseli1
@misseli1 Жыл бұрын
8:03 that weak "yay" killed me
@Telmarine55
@Telmarine55 Жыл бұрын
It’s great when someone is funny when they kind of not trying to be. I laughed too.
@qmyers367
@qmyers367 Жыл бұрын
I feel like that response could be used for a lot of sequels and remakes Disney does..lol
@robinhoodieradio3394
@robinhoodieradio3394 Жыл бұрын
If Netflix keeps their hands off Gerwig and let's her make the films/series/whatever her way, then I think there is a chance we'll having something real good. I doubt that the original cast will make a comeback, at least in a way that ties to the Disney version. Agree it would be super cool though and could work out well.
@Melanie-jy2nw
@Melanie-jy2nw Жыл бұрын
I’m interested in what Gerwig would do with Susan’s character. Especially with her tragic fate in the final books being seen as a product of misogyny. With her past movies, I can see her making commentary on that.
@volbound1700
@volbound1700 Жыл бұрын
@@Melanie-jy2nw I think CS Lewis' fate of Susan is actually misunderstand. There was a discussion outside the book series were he indicated that Susan may have been a representation of himself throughout the series.
@silent_bag2350
@silent_bag2350 Жыл бұрын
@@Melanie-jy2nw wasn't Susan meant to be him tho
@Level_Eleven
@Level_Eleven Жыл бұрын
*“There used to be a little pool. When you looked down into it you could see all the trees growing upside-down in the water, all green and below them, deep, very deep, the blue sky.”* The Silver Chair is so good
@vincentknws
@vincentknws Жыл бұрын
When their visuals where better than most todays movies. 😅
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Right?!? Lion King should’ve taken notes
@TheManyVoicesVA
@TheManyVoicesVA Жыл бұрын
Disney has been BOMBING with their big Blockbusters. I doubt they would buy back the rights to invest hundreds of millions into a Narnia continuation.
@Jake_5693
@Jake_5693 11 ай бұрын
I’m surprised Narnia hasn’t been turned into a themed area at a theme park.
@ShesquatchPiney
@ShesquatchPiney Жыл бұрын
This is why centaurs and minotaurs are the greatest most underused creatures in fantasy. Practical effects for the win INDEED.
@XanderPhillips
@XanderPhillips Жыл бұрын
Didn’t expect to hear Ronnie Coleman. I’m subscribing !
@ranchdressing1037
@ranchdressing1037 Жыл бұрын
They marketed it great. We were playing VMK for hours trying to obtain a Narnia closet teleporter that didn't work right lol.
@karlschumaker
@karlschumaker 9 ай бұрын
Since Walt Disney(himself)died,his own film company has literally pissed on his grave. I am willing to bet that financial problems weren’t the only reason why the company had dropped the franchise. It was because they had found out that there was biblical overtones in the stories.Disney should reconsider in picking up the franchise and do the rest of the stories.And,all else that I could say is that Disney is truly giving the Devil his due.And, if there was a Narnia in real life,then this is the work of the White Witch!!!…Karlido👹👹👹👹👹
@Batinthebelfry7
@Batinthebelfry7 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I agree one million percent with everything you said, except for giving Disney the rights back. Disney hasn't really been interested in making faithful adaptions of anything for a while now. Unfortunately the same is true with Netflix. I'm honestly hoping Narnia is just left alone and Netflix ends up dropping out. I had never heard the 90s cheeseburger Narnia treatment until now. What a disaster that would have been, LOL.
@fhnhockey25
@fhnhockey25 Жыл бұрын
Wow, the Ronnie Coleman sound bites - chefs kiss. Fellow man of culture
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
This man gets it
@fhnhockey25
@fhnhockey25 Жыл бұрын
@@mythwest incredible content - appreciate your work 🍻 Ronnie Coleman “lightweight babayyyy” quote was just a cherry on top Extremely high quality.
@idowuomisile
@idowuomisile Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing justice to the review.
@grantemmert2784
@grantemmert2784 Жыл бұрын
Such a great video! Thank you for making this! All of this is so true and researched well
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DafyddBrooks
@DafyddBrooks Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for doing this. I don't get why Disney would change their release date for the second movie as Water Horse is no where near the popularity of what Harry Potter is. The second book was always going to be challenging any way as its a very different story to the first book, so making a big movie in continuation from their previous one was always going to be challenging. Imagine if they had continued the series then they easily could have their own attraction at Disney land to rival the Harry Potter attraction at Universal studios . Ah well, lets be glad and enjoy what we have at least :) thanks again
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Yeah not sure why they felt Water Horse would be a big contender, certainly wouldn’t have been much in comparison to the rest of 2008’s lineup
@DafyddBrooks
@DafyddBrooks Жыл бұрын
@@mythwest cheers. Of course when one says Disney, they mean the people or person in charge and what's interesting is that this was possibley Bob Igers decision to make. Which is strange because this is when he was just starting up and doing great things. I guess you could say Narnia was one of Michael Eisner's last decisions to make as CEO of the company so i guess there was at least some good he did in his final days you could say
@zalabit927
@zalabit927 Жыл бұрын
Lmao i loved the 2008 box office part💀 5:25
@meatloph
@meatloph Жыл бұрын
The only studio I could imagine having enough respect for the original work, would be Angel Studios. Anybody else simply won’t have the reference for the inferred concepts, and what Lewis was actually trying to achieve
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Angel would get people passionate about the project but nowhere near the funds or talent needed. The highest their audience can fund is maybe $30 Million
@michaelobrien6843
@michaelobrien6843 Жыл бұрын
I knew from the beginning Disney was the wrong studio for Narnia...and Disney itself has since proven me right.
@sleepinggorilla
@sleepinggorilla Жыл бұрын
I forgot how cool that Minotaur was! It has been a long time since I have seen these movies, I never did see Voyage of the Dawn Treader. It is not really a Saga, in that there is no over arching story that continues from one movie to the next. The one constant is Aslan. I agree that they could change the order of the books to help with continuity.
@Darrell9000
@Darrell9000 Жыл бұрын
That was really well edited.
@YOUFREAKINNERD
@YOUFREAKINNERD Жыл бұрын
Bro I forgot how badass that centaur guy was. WOW I need to re-watch Narnia.
@Tylerjms7
@Tylerjms7 Жыл бұрын
Great video bro.
@NemoForever338
@NemoForever338 Жыл бұрын
I needed this reminder that I wasn't the only one that genuinely gave a damn about the Chronicles of Narnia's series. Thanks man
@johnnykopp7304
@johnnykopp7304 Жыл бұрын
Netflix now owns the rights to Narnia? They’ll butcher it as badly as they did to The Witcher series.
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
That’s my fear Despite having so much money it seems to be difficult for them to put together a good show or movie
@johnnykopp7304
@johnnykopp7304 Жыл бұрын
@@mythwest that’s because too many of the producers, directors and other bigwigs in Hollywood too Jokers line from Dark Knight too literally . “It’s not about the money, it’s about the message.”
@samueldawns
@samueldawns Жыл бұрын
this video made me cry, i hope they do it and do it well. SOON
@biojosh398
@biojosh398 11 ай бұрын
Great video man, love all that you said! Makes perfect sense to continue the series now that the actors that played the kids are adults themselves. I think of myself as quite the Narnia fanatic, but for the life of me I can't figure out where the video is from at 11:10 with all the Pevensire kids now they're older. Where was that from?
@mythwest
@mythwest 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! Ok so that was from Disney’s series “Prop Culture”, where a Disney host went around to a bunch of collector’s and warehouses around the world and showed props and sets from iconic Disney movies across the ages. It was super cool, and one episode included Narnia, for which they brought back the actors. Then Disney just up and deleted it from Disney+ because of budget cuts, And “The hosting fees were too expensive”.😤 So it has literally been wiped from existence, doesn’t exist anymore. I was able to get those clips from the trailer for it
@biojosh398
@biojosh398 11 ай бұрын
@@mythwest Ah I see thanks for getting back to me! Dang that's very unfortunate, and very silly of Disney to do on their own platform
@giffordsamuelson2163
@giffordsamuelson2163 8 ай бұрын
Frickin heck yeah brotherrrrrr!! Seriously, the Disney Narnia was good. Their Prince Caspian adaptation was better than the book (I my humble opinion) because PC is the shortest and least memorable of the Narnia series, and they made it longer in an interesting way that was relevant to the subject matter. This series could have been so great. I was pumped after PC and then it all fell apart. The worst part is, theses books get better as they go (in order of publication) so you get to the end with Magicians Nephew and Last Battle and they’re just crazy good. I wish so hard Disney would do some justice to this series…… And then also make a killer adaptation of the Space trilogy by CS Lewis.
@mythwest
@mythwest 8 ай бұрын
You are so right they just get better and better!! Yeah at the very least the changes/additions to PC still felt very much in line with the heart and spirit of the story. And dang a Space trilogy would be hard to do, but would be amazing if it were possible! I’m stoked cuz I just found a copy of Perelandra at a local book sale, total score haha
@fedehere777
@fedehere777 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, "Narnia, it's time to morb" the most spin off ever
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
My favorite part is when it started spinning off all over the place
@fedehere777
@fedehere777 Жыл бұрын
Truly one of the moments of the spin off
@PFlegendary7
@PFlegendary7 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I agree with using the og actors for the other books. They're at the perfect age to reprise their roles! I also consider it a great idea to make The Magician's Nephew as a series, so they could give a detailed version on how Narnia was created instead of rushing it in one film.
@keysburntgucci9016
@keysburntgucci9016 Жыл бұрын
The recent adaptation of ATLA on Netflix has gotten my hopes up, that maybe just maybe, Narnia can also be given the same treatment by Netflix
@rebelcommander7starwarsjur922
@rebelcommander7starwarsjur922 3 ай бұрын
Just imagine trying to reboot Harry Potter I mean talk about rebooting perfection of an adaptation… oh wait… well that one didn’t age quite so well (Seriously look it up there rebooting harry potter as a TV show)
@mythwest
@mythwest 3 ай бұрын
Right?? That was honestly so mind boggling when i saw the headline, like... is literally anyone asking for this??
@rebelcommander7starwarsjur922
@rebelcommander7starwarsjur922 3 ай бұрын
@@mythwest nope no one asking but there doing it
@TwinRiver100
@TwinRiver100 Жыл бұрын
Also if this doesn't work out, at least we'll still have the Focus on the Family Radio Dramas as far as great adaptations. That is, if you can find them. They might just be available in CD form only. I'm not sure ive seen them on any online platform. I did see a few people upload cut up parts on youtube about 4 or 5 years ago, but got taken out due to copyright violation and all that.
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Yesssss those are so goated, I grew up listening to them and they were much of my first exposure to Narnia
@TwinRiver100
@TwinRiver100 Жыл бұрын
yes, they are pretty awesome
@ashleynoe1378
@ashleynoe1378 Жыл бұрын
I love the soundtrack to the lion, the witch, and the wardrobe. It was such a good movie. But now we are stuck with like 4 different versions of Willy Wonka.😢
@CanKick
@CanKick Жыл бұрын
Ronnie Coleman goes perfectly with that battle 😂
@dylanwong6065
@dylanwong6065 Жыл бұрын
I was in high school when the first two Chronicles of Narnia films came out while the third Chronicles of Narnia film came out when I was in Pasadena City College. I love The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe. It had a wonderful story, great characters, awesome villains, beautiful scenery, brilliant special effects, outstanding makeups, amazing battle scenes, and the music is so epic and intense. It became a huge success during the holiday season while it was competing with two other holiday fantasy blockbuster films like Harry Potter and The Goblet of Fire and Peter Jackson’s King Kong. The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian in my opinion is a fantastic fantasy adventure film even though not as good as the first Narnia film. Although Prince Caspian did not grossed as much money as The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe, it still made a profit and became the 10th highest grossing film of 2008 after The Dark Knight, Indiana Jones and The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, Kung Fu Panda, Hancock, Mamma Mia, Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa, Quantum of Solace, Iron Man, and Wall-E. The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of The Dawn Treader was great but my least favorite of the Narnia trilogy. While Voyage of the Dawn Treader has grossed $415 million worldwide and became the 13th highest grossing film of 2010, it didn’t make as much as the two predecessors and became the lowest grossing Narnia film in the trilogy. It’s a darn shame that 4 other Narnia books was never adapted into a movie. I wish Disney would have still keep the rights for Narnia since Disney has been very rocky for the past three years. Disney should have focus more on Narnia instead of most of pointless live action remakes.
@thegreenthunder5416
@thegreenthunder5416 11 ай бұрын
Here’s the thing: Disney shouldn’t have dropped it because what they were doing was good enough already. Now that they’ve dropped it, they can never pick it up again. I have zero faith that Disney could recapture the magic of Narnia again, for a number of reasons. More CGI and less practical effects, more Marvel-esque jokes, more modern politics…same with Netflix. I long for more Narnia content but can’t think of anyone that could make it as good as it once was. I felt the same about LOTR and Rings of Power and even some of the Hobbit movies are proof that Hollywood cannot make stuff like this again
@mythwest
@mythwest 11 ай бұрын
Yeah Disney’s current output gives me many doubts but if they had a director who could protect the vision it could turn out well, but off course that’s IF they’d let the director ball
@emmamorris6947
@emmamorris6947 Жыл бұрын
The most fundamental thing they got wrong right at the start, was to portray Edmund as being put upon by his brother, thus already forming a rift before meeting Jadis. In the book, it is quite clear all siblings were equal together and that it was a choice Edmund made for himself, not a preset inclination to do so with a previous history with his siblings. This completely altars the nuances and meaning CS Lewis was going for.
@doodleground
@doodleground Жыл бұрын
Damn this was a top quality video. Gonna have to watch the battles with heavy rock from now on.
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Bwkjam
@Bwkjam Жыл бұрын
I love how one of C.S. Lewis most used qualifiers is “friend of JRR Tolkien”. Like he’s not as good, but dude rubbed shoulders with the GOAT of fantasy.
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
In fact he encouraged Tolkien and helped him so much with his drafts of Lotr that Tolkien said he would never have finished Lotr with Lewis’s unflagging friendship. But Tolkien’s shadow is so huge it tends to swallow his contemporaries
@ryancparker
@ryancparker Жыл бұрын
I would love a remake of the Star Wars prequels and Narnia just to have something good to watch, although I’m pretty sure these days they’ll screw it up.
@austinbrady
@austinbrady Жыл бұрын
This was a well done video. Really hope they do it right!
@Nova_the_starcatcher
@Nova_the_starcatcher Жыл бұрын
dude Netflix did a fantastic job at adapting the series of unfortunate events tho
@mythwest
@mythwest Жыл бұрын
That gives me hope should Netflix move forward. Also the Avatar show looks like it might deliver so that’s some hope
@Nova_the_starcatcher
@Nova_the_starcatcher Жыл бұрын
Ya I have my fingers crossed for Avatar too, unsure how thats going to turn out! Like you said netflix has definitely had their misses, so hopefully this another hidden gem​@mythwest
@Telmarine55
@Telmarine55 Жыл бұрын
Netflix also did an excellent job with its fantasy series “Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance”. That series gives me hope that they can do Narnia justice.
@danielstreeter6738
@danielstreeter6738 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think it's good that the movies stopped. The first one at least honored the spirit of the books, but the next two were almost an insult, and I somehow don't think the next installments would have been an improvement. Not that they could have made The Last Battle without the context of The Horse and His Boy, which no studio in the world is ever going to invest in making a film of.
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