That Time Lex Luthor Made Out With Amanda Waller

[@CasuallyComics]

What's a random comic moment you remember?

[@Frogman1212]

Jason Todd and Talia totally doing it in Red Hood: Lost Days.

[@juliiju0484]

Iron Man telling Captain Marvel that there is sexual tensión between them in Jason Aaron's Avengers

[@rubiconprime1429]

That time some avengers staff members joked that Jarvis was actually the Vision. IN 1963!

[@prime7213]

That early N52 time when they kinda sorta tries to make Deadshot and Harley Quinn a couple. And how Harley compared her lady parts to a Clown Car. What a time that Adam Glass era.

[@juliiju0484]

@@rubiconprime1429 Where did that happen?

[@Ashguy733]

"Oh so nobody here thinks power is sexy, not one of you finds power sexy." Lex Luthor probably

[@blackrazer22]

Considering all the politicians who have a little something something on the side, someone finds power sexy.

[@RedMagiXIV]

I so heard this in Clancy Brown's voice. Thank you.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Credit where credit is due - Luthor doesn’t discriminate in his tastes in women. Unless they’re Kryptonian. Or if they just like Kryptonians. That’s a deal-breaker.

[@Dawnelldo2]

@@halfmettlealchemist8076 I think so, Lex's has dated a Supergirl.

[@breawycker]

Power is sexy but Lex Luthor is so repulsive that no one wants him 😂

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Waller is truly the “gaslight gatekeep girlboss” to Luthor’s “manipulate mansplain malewife”

[@nearlyrighteouslad3213]

That's one of the worst phrases I've ever read

[@adamolupin]

@@nearlyrighteouslad3213 And yet, I kind of want it on a t-shirt or a poster.

[@knightsblight]

Lmao 🤣

[@spykemxd]

Did you just use "mansplain" unironically?

[@notatallfunctional]

@@spykemxd What about their comment says “unironic” to you?

[@juliiju0484]

The weirdest thing about this for me is Amanda's characterization. If this happened in a Suicide Squad book, Lex would have died when he was within 10 centimeters of Waller.

[@Brilchan]

Lex was the president of the USA at that time Waller may be a lot of things, but first and foremost she is an American patriot and civil servant

[@Dawnelldo2]

I don't think Amanda Waller has enough power to take out Lex Luthor.

[@KennAKALeo]

It depends on which part of him was 10 cm. away., nudge, nudge.

[@kingofdragons7]

@@Dawnelldo2 specially not when he's high on Liquid K

[@johnmobley9369]

@@KennAKALeo 3 inches 😭

[@richiemanuta1972]

You know, this video made me realize that Lex Luthor strays very deep into handsome squidward territory more often than one would notice.

[@zachanikwano]

why would you put this in my head

[@amadiohastruck4331]

Lol, it's all ed McGuiness

[@edwardendicott3247]

Im gonna have nightmares of cartoon lex Luther asking "who's your daddy?"

[@Awestefeld6612]

I thought the kiss was Lex showing his dominance over Waller.

[@kriegermaria9923]

Nah he was into her even in the Comics one sided through shes powerful and intelligent

[@kriegermaria9923]

In batman future she kinda admitted created terry ans his brother for helping bruce get a their

[@jennifergilbert6532]

i remember watching the animated movie with my parents and we all wretched at the scene, mainly cause we were like: "stop doing that to her"

[@Zhello79]

I remember when I watched it my friend's dad was in the room, he simply said Luther likes em big and round lol 😆

[@altalia07]

@@Zhello79😆😆

[@helixsol7171]

​@@Zhello79 *I like 'em big* *I like 'em chunky* *I like 'em big* *I like 'em plumpy* *I like 'em round* *With somethin' somethin'* I don't remember the rest of the song and I'm slightly ashamed of myself for typing this in the first place

[@Dougeb7]

I like the portrayal of the actual kiss in the animation better than the comic. Not only is Lex dripping with sweat, he keeps his eyes open during the smooch. For me it ramps up the creep factor a notch or two. It also puts "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling" in my head for days, lol!

[@angrytheclown801]

I see that and I see Lex doing it to prove his superiority. Everything is a dominance play for him after all.

[@darryljack6612]

Honestly i can see it being a thing, it would be an insane power crazed ship. Especially if there was a child between the two, that child would be a nightmare to the superhero community.

[@KnucklesxReala911]

I feel the same, like i Know it would be top notch surreal but the levels of power couple it is, it becomes quite calling, at least you can say they have enough stuff in common at difference of many more other ships comics have tried to sail

[@fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011]

@@KnucklesxReala911 POWER COUPLE HOW?

[@KnucklesxReala911]

@@fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011 well a power couple is a extremely successful and proficient duo, both lex and waller are that by themselves alone, they are also prideful and very smart, while Luthor falls more in straight forward selfmade egomaniac, waller is a very Machiavellian woman, the idea of both together would be intensely powerful, since the contrast of them patch up in their lacking parts on their personalities if mixed right Sure they would be super toxic most likely but if they were written to focus on the same priorities, their team up is really intense and could be devastating, so even if dysfunctional, a romance between them is not so crazy of a concept

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Lex Luthor and Amanda Waller would only be in a relationship if it was a part of an elaborate 4D chess game they were playing against one another in order to find out each other's secrets. Each of them both knows what the other wants, but they just both double-down instead because they refuse to give the other person the satisfaction of seeing them admit it. And... ...Goddamn it, this is just the plot of Kaguya-Sama, isn't it?

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

@@KnucklesxReala911 Didn’t they team up in Justice League Unlimited? I believe that they were both part of Project: Cadmus (the government-sponsored conspiracy to counteract the Justice League) on that show.

[@captaincomic8678]

Wasn't Lex high on Venom infused with Kryptonite? I wanna say at one point Batman says the side effects of Venom were the only reasonable explanation for Lex's batshit crazy plan.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

The entire "President Luthor" arc becomes infinitely funnier and distressingly more prevalent with this information, as well. A man who believes himself to be a Machiavellian mastermind working towards a utopia for humankind at all costs, but who is actually just coked out of his mind and is just throwing random shit at the wall for no reason and hoping it works.

[@shiningnight12]

Thats exactly what happened

[@matthewardill4297]

We don't see her again because she went straight to HR and they're like "Ok we're going to have to keep you both apart while we run this investigation".

[@gregbasore2108]

I'm smiling at the thought, that somewhere in the multiverse, there's a woman named Amanda Waller-Luthor, who is one of the most powerful, wealthy, amoral and dangerous villains in all human history. Someone who helped Lex more than triple his fortune and used those resources to fund black ops projects that she could never have gotten approved due to the lack of budgetary resources and scientific knowledge limits on the part of the U.S. Government.

[@joeygibson6867]

She would never hyphenate. Otherwise, spot on 😂😂😂

[@benhudson7991]

I always figured Lex was terrified of the Wall as the only person who could stand against his political power and all he could think to do was kiss her to confound her to buy him some time to enact his crazy plan

[@bensneb360]

That green kryptonite gave Lex a sickness for the thickness lol

[@tinymxnticore]

It would make a lot of sense to me for Lex to be attracted to Amanda Waller, but not so much the other way around.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

How so? I figure that Luthor wouldn't really be attracted Waller romantically - he'd respect her as a worthy opponent and as someone who also pursues power for the "greater good," but I think he wouldn't waste time trying to seduce her unless it was part of an elaborate plot to figure out her secrets.

[@tinymxnticore]

@@halfmettlealchemist8076 Narcissistically, Luthor would recognize a lot of traits in Waller that he sees in himself: ambition, ruthlessness, determination, decisiveness, etc. I don’t think Amanda would respect him very much though, because he doesn’t really have any ideals greater then himself.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

@@tinymxnticore That’s a very interesting perspective. Personally, I’m torn about whether or not Luthor would be attracted to powerful women such as Waller: would he like them because he arrogantly sees a part of himself in them, or would he feel threatened by them for much the same reasons? There’s arguments to be made for both, really.

[@suezcontours6653]

@@halfmettlealchemist8076 No. I don't understand why fandoms would create hate campaigns against CW's beautiful Iris West Allen but then ship someone like Amanda Waller with Lex. Is there something that Hollywood has against beautiful skinny darker women?

[@tinymxnticore]

@@suezcontours6653 Excuse me? What does the hate campaign against Candice Patton have to do with this other than Iris and Waller both being black women? And bringing in the fact that Patton is “skinny” is just gross.

[@GeoffreyToday]

I think this moment with Lex comes down to a twisted psychological web of misogyny, elitism, narcissism, fatphobia, and megalomania (spurred to ridiculous levels by his kryptonite serum poisoning). In his mind, us fatties should feel nothing but gratitude at receiving the, to put it delicately, "romantic" attentions of Lex Luthor, the pinnacle of human excellence (in his mind). As fatties, we're expected to be desperate for and grateful of any sexual interest shown us at all. Certainly Lex never doubts that. He sees everyone as beneath him of course, but he still ranks us, and fatties definitely sit near the very bottom of his hierarchy, as we do with many.

[@BrandonVout]

Yeah, it's Post-Crisis Lex taken to an extreme. Early on he was established as coercing his younger, female assistants into "dates" as "rewards" for good performance, and having had like 7 or 8 ex-wives by his first appearance.

[@sharpaycutie2]

Lex is not mysoginsyic or fatfobic (which doesn’t exist). That’s what is in YOUR mind not his

[@sharpaycutie2]

@@BrandonVout he’s a straight male if he was interested in men then it’d be men on that end. But because he’s a selfish and generally bad person isn’t mysogony

[@jaccstar7801]

Rule 34 artists: Word? Say less, im on it.

[@ashleytuchin7693]

The "buy a sense of humour" scene is one of my favourite Batman and Superman moments ever. For me, it sums up their dynamic and friendship perfectly.

[@titolove6895]

Clark's face saying "buy a sense of humor" resembles a villain about to reveal He's been behind everything from the beginning

[@hope-cat4894]

This was such an odd ship. Not as weird as Batgirl/Batman, but it's up there. 😳 There's also the Perry White/Amanda Waller ship from that Valentine's Day comic.

[@Slipperyslope333]

How is batgirl and batman weird? fucked up on bruce part of course but weird ehh

[@MarauderTwilight]

@@Slipperyslope333 It's very weird on Bruce's part. Babs and Bruce very much have a mentor/mentee relationship, that depending on which version of them you see, started when she was at a relatively young age compared to him. Throw in that she's the daughter of his closest confidant outside of the Batcave, and (again, version depending) her relationship with Dick Grayson, and it's just not a good look at all. Bruce Timm keeps trying to make it a thing, and I wish he would drop it.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

There is no Batgirl/Batman ship. That never happened, you hear? We don't talk about Bruce Timm. We don't talk about the Killing Joke movie. _That ship does not exist._

[@Kid_Spitfire]

​@@halfmettlealchemist8076 Yes exactly

[@B1g_B0sssss]

​@@halfmettlealchemist8076there was a scene on a ship in that thing tho.

[@therealmanos]

I remember this scene. It's from Loeb's period of throwing in random stuff. I enjoyed Waller's reaction was much like mine. We were both were like: "WTF???"

[@wanderingrogue3039]

Ahh... Roid Rex Lex. I thought I'd forgotten this but apparently it was just burried deep within my psyche.

[@CasuallyComics]

Lol I love the phrase Roid Rex Lex

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Every supervillain is too muscular these days. Buff Lex, Buff Riddler, Buff Two-Face…what’s next? Roided Condiment King?

[@foisopracurtir6389]

@@halfmettlealchemist8076 Fighting against physical gods and pinnacle humans for YEARS makes u stronk or dead

[@COMICSAREAWESOME]

Fun Fact: This was my first time ever seeing Amanda Waller...luckily I would soon see the DCAU version and later on read about the John Ostrander version, both of which are the best version of Amanda Waller. Ever.

[@WarmLillie]

Lex and Amanda… I thought their ego wouldn’t allow them to fall in love with something than themselves.

[@suezcontours6653]

@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz Her next iteration should look more like Candace Owens. I'd cast Gabrielle Union

[@anderurteaga3707]

Can we just appreciate Amanda Waller's fade? The woman had drip in this one.

[@adam-l74]

A scene that always sticks with me is Stephanie Brown aka Batgirl’s grappling hook saying “poot” when she deployed it.

[@toyotatacoma1616]

Bring back Daredevil’s billy clubs saying “fap”

[@ianfinrir8724]

Punisher once used a gun that shoots swords that make the sound "Fokka Fokka Fokka!"

[@randomrancor8018]

Those kissing sounds you made killed me!🤣

[@timross5351]

lol Waller spent the rest of that comic arc gargling mouthwash and arranging Lex' downfall. A random throwaway line that helped cement my interest in comics involved the Mar-Vell Captain Marvel. He was captured by the Kree and strapped into their version of an electric chair... and they mention that the chair kills you so thoroughly (by "scrambling your brain wave patterns") that you cannot be reincarnated!

[@luigiboi4244]

What I find more concerning that this toxic relationship between psychotic BEEG brains is the fact that LEX LUTHOR IS JACKED. WHY CAN I SEE EVERY MUSCLE IN HYPER DETAIL?!

[@mttylerdurden9]

Because Ed McGuiness. That's why.

[@somethingclever4297]

Just in case you read the other comments. People have said that lex was on venom.

[@ericmiller93]

Jeph Loeb wrote some stinkers, but his great comics like Long Halloween, Dark Victory, and Superman for all Seasons are some of my favorite comics of all time.

[@BrandonVout]

Loeb was never the same writer after his son died. Before, he wrote some of the best (and some very bad) stories out there, but ever since his output has consistently lived in infamy in every fandom he's touched.

[@somethingclever4297]

@@BrandonVout what did he write that was so bad?

[@JS-hw8ve]

Loeb can't write. Let him rehash old stories, retell stories that have already been told and he does okay repeating them. That's why Long Halloween worked so well, It was basically just Batman giving you a tour of his world, introducing readers to his rogues, with the "mystery" of Holiday stappled on to it. Or how Superman for All Seasons was a rehash of Byrne's Man of Steel. But when he tried to create his OWN stories, that's when you notice he has no clue what he's doing, and characters start acting very out of character. I mostly avoid anything that Loeb writes because of that.

[@BrandonVout]

@@somethingclever4297 'Ultimates 3' and 'Ultimatum' are the most infamous examples. Both missed the point of the previous series, focused on shock value over substance, and the latter did irreparable damage to Marvel's Ultimate Universe as a whole (admittedly, it was supposed to lead to a reboot but that was scrapped at the last minute, leaving many characters being gruesomely killed off for nothing). Before his son's death, his "bad" stories were more divisive than universally hated. I'd say his Supergirl stories in Superman/Batman encapsulate what I mean by that. They're fine stories but have some uncomfortable elements (that would haunt Post-Crisis Kara for years after he left) that, once removed, lead to a great adaptation mentioned in the video.

[@HandofOmega]

@@JS-hw8ve In an interview, Loeb himself claimed his only real talent was being able to get ahold of fantastic artists who made his stories look REALLY good! He was probably meant to be joking, but...he was actually right.

[@MrSOCCERmiles]

I related too much to, “distracted by book” 😂😂

[@jimgillespie6109]

"The patience of a cactus." Fantastic line, Sasha! The best reason to like the S/B series is the dual narration. You really come to understand these two men and they view each other. Some of the plots don't work for me at all, but over all, it's a good series. Lastly, I dislike Waller with a passion, and hope she gets the punishment she deserves someday.

[@macuna1995]

Surprised Amanda didn't immediately slap Lex then sent him to the darkest dungeon the gov. had. (Also, it's hard not to ship Clark and Bruce, both have loving personalities.)

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

Well he WAS the president

[@yonaguy6978]

Was impeachment not possible? I imagine lex can buy his way out

[@angrytheclown801]

​@@yonaguy6978You're going to impeach someone for kissing someone?

[@kriegermaria9923]

Amanda i like her in batman future guiding terry giving advice

[@kriegermaria9923]

Poor her than lex Made moves😂😂

[@ravenwilder4099]

I'm gonna need to work the phrase "I have the patience of a cactus" into my day-to-day conversation now.

[@AussieDragoon]

A one off line in this video REALLY made me want a Cir-El deep dive.

[@BrandonVout]

My initial reaction was there isn't much to say because DC abandoned her only a few months after creating her to be the new Supergirl, with only a couple appearances since. Then again, Sasha has made much more out of much less. Cir-El existed in that weird, post-'Many Happy Returns' period where they had just retired Linda Danvers and realized there was a strong desire amongst readers to see Kara come back. They took that information and tried one final time to create another non-Kryptonian Supergirl (this was at least attempt number 4 if you count the Superman/Predator crossover that built up a non-Kryptonian Kara but went nowhere). DC attempts to replace Kara deserve their own series.

[@OtseisRagnarok]

Lex likes his women how he likes his cakes: thicc, chocolate, and over 40.

[@marioacosta-warren921]

I’m reminded of a super best friends quote from Batman:the Telltale series. Willie vows to try to romance Amanda Waller. Declaring he will “climb that Wall”.

[@noahsterben5666]

God I love public enemies. Yeah not gonna lie that scene is burned into the back of my mind. Not sure why but I feel it works and fits in the movie.

[@margaretbruhn4376]

That was the moment where she decided he definitely had to go.

[@rubiconprime1429]

“I have the patience of a cactus!” -Sasha (2023)

[@anthonystrickland7049]

That right there is the declaration line of a super hero. It ranks up there with "I'm full of tinier men!"

[@kanna-san.]

​@@anthonystrickland7049spoooon!

[@macmay3042]

"they all laughed at christopher columbus" is a a song lyric, actually. Didn't realize Lex was so musically inclined.

[@therussiancomicbookgeek]

Lex must have a thing for extremely competent and powerful women …that and robots

[@mangamango5569]

There were some bits sprinkled into the movie indicating that Lex did have an interest in Waller. A crush, if you will. I always figured he cared too much about his image prior to that moment to act on it. But thanks to the Liquid K and steroids in his system, Lex was feeling invincible and just decided to finally act on his attraction to her without putting on an act.

[@Mat0s-316]

Great vid as always, but damn you for making a good point on why Lex would be into Am- *cough* Waller. It's a horrible, one-sided ship but it works.

[@nadiawright9677]

I have been struck by the powerful and dizzying desire to write Lex Luthor/Amanda Waller fanfiction.

[@suezcontours6653]

No. One interracial couple that deserves the recognition is CW's Barry Allen and Iris West

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Do it. Let the intrusive thoughts flow through you.

[@suezcontours6653]

@@halfmettlealchemist8076 Gross

[@creature6715]

@@suezcontours6653 "actually you should ship this interracial couple instead" How about you mind your business?

[@suezcontours6653]

@@creature6715 Mind my business? They're both DC, Dumbass. Lex and Amanda are not even pals, yet people are shipping them based on what exactly? This ONE scene, without context, that has never been addressed ever again. Lex was clearly playing games and Amanda wasn't buying it. Meanwhile Barry and Iris get a lot of shit despite being a real couple

[@SuperEasywalker]

Lex Luther, smartest man alive: “They laugh at Christopher Columbus” Me: Um, Lex most of what they about Christopher Columbus in the day have been demystify.

[@BlueBoboDoo100]

I really liked Loeb's run on this book, but I was equally weirded out by this moment. Came right the eff outta nowhere and didn't lead to anything (thank God). I did think the whole "Lex as president" story was too short-lived and had a lot more potential.

[@BoSmith7045]

"Patient as a cactus". 😳 I'm sooo goanna steal that one.

[@jpboursaw4469]

Yes! I remember this happened. Then, as now, I feel the need to abrasively scrub my brain. But it’s that moment in the scheme where Lex not only wants us to know, he wants us to know he wants us to know. Very characteristic. The dynamic could’ve been explored another less sweaty way, but it did make a sort of sociopathic sense. Now where’s that Brillo Pad?

[@prime7213]

You really had to remind me of the time Lex Luthor made out with Amanda Waller. Right now. In the middle of a Tuesday. Sun’s up and everything.

[@d-manthecaptain1382]

This video is such a Trojan Horse to talk about how cool Supes and Batsy are together.

[@austinmccormick8952]

Superman telling Batman to buy a sense of humor broke me

[@doro626]

The way that panel was draw, I always thought that the kiss mind controlled her, like Superman in S2 and she was frozen in place.

[@harrisonplatis3902]

This was the first comic run I ever bought as a kid, still patiently waiting for a dc movie to capture the spirit of this run

[@JonPaulMaki]

Editing in the EGOT's reaction was perfect.

[@o.ruoroch9869]

That was actually one of the best parts in that storyarc. Chad Lex powering up to be able to mate with Waller. 😂😂

[@ProjektTaku]

"Is it my imagination or is it getting smaller in here?" Conner: "Luthor's gonna squish us to death. Why couldn't it be power girl?" Even in a life or death situation, conner still can't hold himself back.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

He just like me fr fr

[@dramonmaster222]

Well...that's definitely a WTF moment.

[@D-mann-9000]

Even Waller looks confused.

[@Shamazya]

It would be out of character, I think, but I kinda love the idea that Lex kisses Waller in the comic and just straight up peaces out because of it.

[@darryljack6612]

13:40 I... I feel like i need to take a shower now.

[@trevorghalt1881]

If it haven't happened already Lex vs Amanda Waller story sounds kind of awesome also thanks for reminding me of Lex saying call me Daddy😭

[@sebastiafuentes8247]

I came across your vids recently and I love how they are structured and scripted, you have the attention of a person with adhd from start to finish, I’m a fan

[@Kerwarsh]

Batman/Superman Public Enemies animated movie made me LMAO. As for random comic moments that live in my head rent free? Jurgens Batman Beyond run, just the whole series and it's infuriating. Mainly because there were some good ideas in there that either weren't followed through with or completely forgotten, not to mention characters constantly making some...questionable choices.

[@EndoScorpion]

Public Enemies and it's sequel Apokolypse are still some of my favourite DC animated movies. I think it's a great origin for Supergirl, and should be what is used for live-action. But that should happen way down the line, like phase 3 at the earliest. As for the kiss, I feel it worked in the movie (I've not read the comic) to show just how unhinged Lex is becoming,

[@Jonflame1]

Based on my reading I always saw that kiss as a reaction to the Liquid K in his system. Kind of like a roid rage thing. Like it makes him pumped in a manic like manner or, not to sound crass, but him popping a roid boner.

[@Netasuke]

Yeah, I saw this years ago, I always thought there was a romance between the two as I didn't read comics at the time and only saw the animated movie. It makes it far more creapier and out of nowhere without it.

[@suezcontours6653]

Why? It makes no sense. Hell, why are people more comfortable with this coupe than Barry and Iris on CW where they have a wholesome lovestory?

[@Netasuke]

@suezcontours6653 I love iris with Barry, though the both of them can be drama queens they are perfect together. This pairing is out of the blue.

[@philipcampbell4096]

Im glad he was all about BBW Waller and not her slimmed down counterpart but her reaction says it all.

[@eddyviews1427]

For some reason it reminds me the time when Wonder Woman had a team up with Conan the Barbarian, where at the end they gave a farewell kiss and centuries later she met a Conan look alike hinting a relationship.... story is decent but will find it odd, especially after reading certain ones got me thinking.

[@captainlastreo5160]

I remember watching the movie and going "What the fuck, Lex?"

[@aiakumu3579]

I could ship this, I don't know why but I could. DC could give me a nonsensical toxic relationship! Full soap opera.

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

Waller asking Luthor _"WHAT IS THAT?",_ then seeing the image at about 09:54 in the video -- how the two characters are positioned, and what Waller is looking at exactly -- makes me wonder exactly _what_ the _THAT_ was supposed to be....

[@kcazzzzz]

lex luthor is giving motto motto a run for his money

[@noire5728]

13:34 Most people: Batman and Joker are the most homoerotized hero/villain duo in DC. THIS VERY SCENE: Hold my kryptonite.

[@symonpalmer20]

Hi Sasha, great episode, thank you for your obvious hard work, the way the video was 'chaptered' was brilliant. Here's to the next. 😁

[@evandavid2816]

Huh, I always figured that Lex kissed Waller to put her under some temporary hypnosis/mind-control whammy of sorts because she was asking too many questions, hence the utterly stunned look in the following panel...shows what I know, yes...?

[@nosfonader8792]

Metallo being a threat to Superman never made sense to me. It's like the writers always forget how overpowered Superman in comparison. Who cares if the robot man has Kryptonite? Clark just melt him down with heat vision. He can still super speed doge, the writers just refuses Superman to do so. Luthor as president is my favorite angle for Luthor. Luthor using the Presidency as the ultimate attack and defense method is genius. Superman would never willingly attack the President, he'd lose forever if he did so. Luthor should have been President in BvS. Waller is such a strong character. Having a government agent trying to overlord the super humans is just a logical thing to do. Waller is also a great foil to superheroes by being authoritarian. Why do I like the ship Luthor/Waller? It really doesn't need to happen, but maybe explored a bit.

[@kingofdragons7]

I must salute Lex for this act of bravery, kissing Amanda Waller of all people...

[@ThePatxiao]

I'm the opposite, poor poor Amanda Waller, having to kiss Luther.

[@kingofdragons7]

@@ThePatxiao Lex is hot tho and also have 0 empathy for Waller

[@arnesaknussemm8456]

At least Lex ain't kissing Batman or Robin; At least NOT YET. *let me not give DC any ideas to further destroy the comic book industry*

[@kingofdragons7]

@@arnesaknussemm8456 now i want this to happen just because you said that

[@shangc2781]

I call the early 2000s the Noughties.

[@IAmEvilTree]

Wow, never thought I'd ever feel sorry for Waller. If that was anyone other than the US President doing that, she'd have three Suicide Squads out to kill them in minutes.

[@theprofessionalamateur3090]

Unfortunately I can't even look at Lex nowadays without thinking of this scene bruh💀

[@orinanime]

* I loved the "Future Superman" issue. I totally forgot it was from this first arc. * This scene works a lot better in the adaptation. * I love that you've covered a few adaptations now. Even if only certain aspects. I hope that you continue to cover more of the movies and such going forward.

[@t1m3f0x]

Lex Luthor decided to make Amanda Waller his Monica Lewinsky.

[@RngLovesMeLOL]

Booster Gold is HIGHLY underrated

[@jeffkeller9009]

As more of a Marvel guy, It's great to get back stories on D.C. stuff, Your story telling is way entertaining. Love it.

[@jonahfalcon1970]

"It lives in my mind. Now it lives in yours." You can't unsee it.

[@GenerationWest]

One of the oddest things in Public Enemies, amd I've seen so many versions of these characters, and this still baffles me.

[@stephenvelez9710]

Sasha, I've only recently discovered your channel thanks to a nudge from a friend, and I'm so impressed with how you are able to distill a seemingly endless and ever-changing history into entertaining, digestible and trenchant analysis ❤️

[@noway3037]

With pride I’ll say I ship it🤷🏾‍♀️ they’d make a power couple

[@eddyviews1427]

Wonder how they'll last.... We need an elseworld for this. Gotta get to the writers desk of DC.IT MUST HAPPEN!!!

[@ladonte1980]

THEY WOULD OWN EVERYTHING! HELL, SELLING CONDOS ON APOCALYPSE AND SHIT! LOL!

[@cassiedevereaux-smith3890]

I mean, it's less 'made out with' and more kinda discarding consent and sexual assault-y? But dang, how good is Clancy Brown as Luthor? Never given enough credit for his amazing interpretation.

[@CasuallyComics]

KZbin wouldn't like that title very much lol

[@HandofOmega]

Would love to see more of a deep dive into Lex's time as President! Unfortunately, Jeph Loeb was given the task of ending the storyline, and botched it in predictably hammy manner. Given that Lex was an evil President and Superman is, y'know...*a reporter*, how much more satisfying would it have been if it were the words of Clark Kent that did what the fists of Superman couldn't? Hell, have him work with Lois on an expose, so that "Lane & Kent" become the DC equivalent of "Woodward and Bernstein"! Of course, this is a comic book, but they could still have had Luthor throw on the mech suit and Supes get all punchy AFTER he's impeached/resigns...smh at the wasted opportunities...

[@ShootingStar489]

I'm liking the section header screen transitions. Big "your friend's Info dump Power Point presentation during a discord call at 1am" vibes and I'm here for it

[@Tusitala1967]

Superman was losing his powers, and having therapy sessions with I-Ching to figure out why. There's a scene where he comes upon a burning tenement. He's walking because he can't fly any more. The fireman sees him and says,"Thank God you're here, Superman! The whole building is about to go up in flames!" Superman runs in without hesitation, even though he has almost no powers left. The thought balloons reveal he's thinking about how he could die right there, but he runs in anyway. There's a full page panel with him running out with a woman under one arm and her two children under the other. He's covered in those awesome Curt Swan bruises. That's the moment I realized who Superman really was beneath the powers and the costume. The only thing is... that page I'm referencing doesn't exist. I built it out of my childhood memories; assembled from various illustrations in the comic itself. It's in my mind as clear as day though as a prisitine artifact of my imagination, my younger self. When I finally found the comic, decades into my adulthood, I was flabbergasted that the page didn't exist. The story is in Superman #240.

[@Filmor3442]

I love the “history” cut helps the flow

[@caveiradacaverna6713]

Amanda do be looking like overweigth Oliva from Baki in that artstyle

[@omshiva3599]

I love your organization and structured analysis of this topic. I definitely agree with you that these Superman/Batman stories were a series of fun arcs that worked to capture the dynamic of the World's Finest as their relationship had been depicted over the years. It showed how close they were while still having some differing views on crime fighting and served to compare and contrast these iconic characters rather than just putting them in one extreme or the other (which most writers in previous eras tended to do): they always admired one another or they were ready to kill each other. I think comics up until this period definitely worked to incorporate sensational moments because it was just a compelling visual to insert into a panel while telling a story. It was like the way splash pages were more prolific before the rise of web comics and having to consider the constraints of the online platform when viewing comics. The comic book format just naturally lends itself to quick moments of shock to elicit a reaction or emotion from the reader without bothering to dig deeper into how that moment contributed to the overall plot.

[@Kayclau]

I might just be a crazy shipper, but we need more evil couples. There aren't enough.

[@stonebaxter]

Can I say that I LOVE that you keep James Robinson’s STARMAN OMNIBUS prominently in the background? That series is a work of art. Great taste!

[@lewa3910]

God I hope Viola's Amanda never has to kiss Jessie's Lex. Even tho the wtf factor would be just as accurate for her

[@FLCL_rox]

Honestly Lex and Waller I kinda ship it. More for the sexual tension they briefly shared in the later N52 moments between them.