Revealing The Untold Story From My Family History

► Vlogtober Day 7 - A quiet day here at Suggwell HQ BUT for those of you asking, I finally reveal the other story I was told about my family that didn't make the cut on my episode of 'Who do you think you are'
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[@anniecoll23]

I wanna vote for Joe & Dianne do the off roading tv show! I just know you two would be hilarious! And go abroad how cool would that be?! 😂

[@bettinamcdonald5394]

Yes, that would be a laugh💐🤗

[@kathleenoneill5470]

I remember watching you learning about you family history very interesting Also would love to see you do more off roading but get better tires so you don't get stuck again also just be careful ❤

[@morganclements9920]

I love genealogy! Thanks for sharing your family tree!!!!

[@tressa-]

So neat! You should have Jane Austen's letter framed. Would be a cool piece to have on the wall :)

[@rachfrank]

Fascinating to hear the Jane Austen connection. My family have been able to trace our ancestry to Spain and Portugal since noticing a familial connection on Mark Wright's episode of WDYTYA and sharing ancestors a few generations back. Now he is known affectionately in our family as Cousin Mark 😂

[@Jayjayrose16]

As a history and ancestry buff. I absolutely love that you shared this with us. As one half of my family came from Salisbury and now are family in the last 100 years come from chippenham I even went to agricultural college in lackham. I do wonder if are families have crossed paths at one point.

[@faycafeb1089]

For anyone interested in family history please don't forget to talk to parents and grandparents, ask how and where met, lived, things they enjoyed like hobbies. Do they remember their parents, grandparents, siblings, wars, historical events etc Names and dates mean nothing without their stories ❤

[@akalilblu]

Loved your who do you think you are. How lovely to have so many interesting connections. Mrs Bennet is such a great character too that must be so exciting to find out xxxx

[@TraceyStein-v6m]

That Jane Austen story is amazing

[@janettekelsall6479]

Well worth the wait. Your storytelling is amazing. Vlogtober is brilliant. x

[@Kari_B61ex]

I can talk about Family History for hours and hours too Joe. I've been researching mine since 2009! I've got back to the early 1600s. My family also go back to France and Guernsey...Bellet, they were Huguenot. Protestants that escaped from Catholic France. It's fascinating.

[@sharonpluckrose1092]

Love this Joe, how interesting to research your family’s history.

[@kazbrown7569]

Wow thank you Joe!! Your family tree/history sounds amazing. My sister managed to track out family tree back as far as 1300, and one of my xgreat grandfather's head was displayed on London Bridge next to Wallace 😮, I love history too I find it fascinating

[@lindsaycordova91]

The Jane Austen connection is super cool! I’ve read Pride and Prejudice and can see how they would assume she drew inspiration from the situation for Mrs. Bennet. Even if not, it’s just cool that she was even aware of who your family members were back then.

[@lindsaycordova91]

I tried to leave this comment last night and somehow left it on a completely different video from a different creator 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@kiera4835]

Joe i think the alloys being scratched was from when you were stuck and spinning the wheels, probably lots of little rocks in that mud.

[@xscarlettx12]

I knew there was a link to Jane when the Jane Austen Centre was thanked in the credits, but nice to have it finally confirmed three years after your episode aired 😂 Cassandra was Jane's sister. The best version of Mrs Bennett is in the 1995 BBC adaptation with Colin Firth, it's on the iPlayer.

[@susanpearson-creativefibro]

I came to the comments to make sure the Colin Firth version had been recommended. It is definitely the gold standard. I nearly fell of my chair when Joe said he hadn’t seen/read it.

[@sweigh72]

Yes Joe I’m so happy I didn’t miss this story just leaving work so I am running to get my snacks ready for a good watch I saved yesterdays vlog for tonight when I knew I had time to watch them both without being disturbed …. Be Back in bit xx

[@yukettochanomori5933]

OMG! I've been waiting for this, so excited !!!

[@samanthabrown8502]

Joe! Jane Austen! How insane 🤯 Thank you for sharing, so fascinating to listen to, it definitely should have been in the program.

[@kailynwhipple5094]

I love love love family history and it’s so cool that you have this all documented to be further passed down ! Thanks for sharing ! ✨

[@laurap5463]

I was thinking how that sounded exactly like the character from Pride and Prejudice, and the admiral story was also a common theme in her books. Persuasion had a story of an admiral marrying an older woman whom he had fallen in love with when they were younger but couldn't marry because her family wouldn't allow it. So, she was considered dowdy and "on the shelf" by the time of their reunion.

[@LisaFerguson-lw8il]

@laurap5463 Another Jane Austen nerd here. I devoured her books in my late teens.

[@Momoko524]

Yes! The main character who eventually marries the admiral also had a sister whom she disliked that would always act like she was really ill and dying but wasn't. Was the first character I thought of rather than Mrs Bennet. Not as well known a story Persuasion but it's one of my personal favourites.

[@BethanyJohnson-qk1ur]

Hey Joe loving the vlogs through October great thing to watch for my birthday month and ur vlogs give me so much comfort hope u see this love you and dianne ❤️

[@sueflynn9886]

What a privilege to have all the research into your family history and to find the connections to Jane Austen, it goes into far more depth than we would get just looking at the births and deaths. What a hoot if your relative is the inspiration for Mrs Bennett, I love Pride and Prejudice if you have time watch the BBC 1995 series it is wonderful. Alison Steadman plays your relative! It is a perfect series to binge watch on a rainy Sunday cosy in front of the wood burner. Great video, thanks for sharing!❤️

[@alandixon9205]

Joe that is really fascinating. All I would say is, try to get time to read the book Pride And Prejudice rather than watching the film. You’ll be so interested in the Mrs Bennett character. Also, another of Jane Austen’s books called Persuasion, features a senior naval officer who marries an older woman who was considered ‘past her best’ which is another link to the story of your family. It might be interesting to compare the dates of your letters to Austen’s writing. Pride And Prejudice in its original form was from around 1796/1797 and Persuasion was slightly later in around 1815/1816.

[@deborahwhatford9831]

I love tracing my family tree. One of my ancestors was Charles Darwin's dentist, who was also one of the founders of the Dentistery Registry. I have another, the dentists brother, who typeroped across the Thames.

[@caroleearnshaw32149]

As a Jane Austen fan this made my heart happy ❤️

[@rebekah3483]

Awesome history there! That kind of info on each of our families would be amazing to have! Great you've got that for sure!

[@daniellesparkle6579]

Loved the who do you think you are part so much, I always watch it. So very sad about what your French ancestors went through, but so so brave making such hard decisions and getting out, and so much determination and massive accomplishments for many generations was amazing to see. I don’t know too much about my own but one of my aunts did ours a while back and a part I found interesting was a connection that through marriage makes bill oddie a distant cousin.

[@gianna7036]

Loving vlogtuber! Excited to hear about your family history 😊❤

[@Linda-yg4zy]

Hiya Joe - an Aussie here (like your delightful Dianne!) & my hubby has traced my timeline WAAAAAAY back to the First Fleet, where I had 3 ancestors who were brought here in 1788! One was a prostitute & two were thieves …. apparently I’ve got ancestors also buried on Norfolk Island!

[@LisaFerguson-lw8il]

I paused the video to watch the episode. Fascinating. I was fortunate to have my daughter accepted into a top primary school. A friend, a well known personality, decided to apply for her girl. She asked me for a letter of recommendation, and a list of required papers. When I mentioned proof of vaccinations, she told me her child had none (mom didn't believe in them). That annoyed me. She relied on caring parents like myself to protect her child. Listening to how many of your ancestor's children died of TB, how could anybody be so selfish? Her child was refused a place at the school and our friendship broke.

[@emmajicha8819]

Gotta get some off-road tires for that bad boy for the next Tom & Joe Adventure .

[@andrewgibbs5096]

Tyres in the uk!

[@emmajicha8819]

@@andrewgibbs5096 you can tell I'm not from the UK then 😉 Joe's viewership is worldwide

[@wonderwoman5528]

‘Chasing chickens around the courtyard.’ 😂 Aw. Fascinating to learn that. I wonder if the pizza didn’t cook because the cheese was making it too soggy in one big blob? But maybe it’s the cold evening weather

[@andrewgibbs5096]

Floor is indoors. Ground is outside. The scratches on the wheels are caused by stones in the soil rubbing against the wheels while you stuck in the mud.

[@emmasheppard8937]

The movie Mighty Macs is based on my great aunt Cathy Rush. She lead a college basketball team from an all Women’s school run by nuns to win the first collegiate Women’s basketball championship. It’s a pretty good movie- very female empowering

[@AncoraImparo12387]

Mrs Bennett is a really famous character from Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice. It seems Jane was jealous of your family! She says in her letter that your relation was good looking and well mannered, so the creation of Mrs Bennett must have been from bitterness. The link is really amazing! So many films reference the ideals of Jane Austen (e.g Bridget Jones) I have been to the Jane Austen museum in Bath. There are festivals where people dress up in period costumes etc. You have to do a video or documentary follow-up! The fan base is world-wide and huge!! I can't believe you are not more excited. The UK was obsessed with Pride and Prejudice in the late 90's and 00's. There is even a new Bridget Jones film coming out soon with Hugh Grant. I think your Mum will understand more. Best of luck!

[@robinbarnard8795]

The scratches on the rims is from when you were spinning your tires in the mud.

[@andrealouisesmith]

I can still hear the weird noise I’m afraid to say Joe… 🙈😬 Ok you just acknowledged it 👍🏻

You'd think he watches what the editor he never met concocted and if weird sound is still there, right? It takes 24 hrs from amazon prime to get new camera or get another phone that's not a filthyy pricey iPhone, right?

[@Momoko524]

He said he wanted an iphone for how quick it was or something but I hear you.

[@Solosheps]

Best KZbinr been watching for years

[@josephinebarnes372]

I love family history and have traced ancestors all the way back to 1066 where the Vernon family fought at the Battle of Hastings with William the Conqueror, really crazy as it’s almost 1,000 years ago and really lucky to go that far back!

[@carolinedunne8455]

Really enjoying the content of your vlogs and Vlogtober. Very fascinating the Jane Austen connection. All the best and lots of success with the TV show 😊

[@elainemurray2059]

Family history was fascinating thanks Joe ❤

[@beekwa]

Could tell in that first sentence you were reading a letter from Jane Austen. One of my family “fun facts” is my 10x great grandfather Roger Conant: came to America in 1623/4, founded Salem, Massachusetts and was the first governor of Massachusetts Bay Colony.

[@eleanorjackson5283]

Your family history is amazing Joe!! I’ve done some of my family tree 🌳 on ancestry I did most of it in lockdown. Like you I love history, I don’t know an awful lot as I’m still working my way through it but I found out that my 1st cousin 3X removed on my dads, dads side (my grandad) died in Flanders’s Fields in WW1, he was 19. Also found my name (Eleanor) was quite popular throughout the family which is interesting. Hope I can have a juicy story like yours!😂 also so up for you and Tom off roading!!

[@davidmoss1896]

Think you might need to change your tyres to off road instead of road tyres for an off road adventure I would also suggest a trip to Switzerland in the winter

[@chelseypierpoint2306]

What a great family story with the Jane Austen link, so interesting. Thanks for sharing!

[@gwynethglas-brown9171]

One of my older Brothers did our Family Tree got no clue how far he got , but it was interesting . Thats was Fascinating to hear about Jane Austen 😊 . Lovely video joe 🥰

[@feefee221100]

Joe mate the alloy scratches are probably from where you got stuck in the mud! You were gunning it so much to try and get out 🫣, its what cats like that are for though so I wouldn’t worry about it 😊

[@julesc6896]

Joe, that’s fascinating about your link with Jane Austen, I absolutely love her. Cassandra was her sister (Named after their mother Cassandra) She also had 6 brothers, 2 of which served in the navy. Her brother Francis became Sir Francis and Admiral of the Fleet. Her brother Charles became a Rear Admiral, so lots of connections and inspiration for her novels. The lady you mentioned with ill health could well have been the inspiration for her character Mrs. Bennet, mother of the 5 Bennet girls who she tirelessly tries to marry off in Pride & Prejudice. She suffers with her nerves whenever things don’t go her way! How amazing that you have a link with my absolute literacy heroine Jane Austen, there are a few books with letters from Jane to her sister Cassandra that might be of interest. My relatives have traced my family tree on both sides of my family and I’m related to Oliver Cromwell and I’ve no idea how they got this far but all the way back to Boudicca, Queen of the Iceni tribe. My family are from the area she’s from.

[@KevsArtStuff]

I have a story about my grandfather. It’s a long story, but I’ll try and make it short. My mother only met her father once, when she was 4 or 5. She had a vague recollection of him coming to visit, but my grandma sent him packing. That’s all we had to go on. When my grandma and grandfather met, he was in the army, but we subsequently discovered that when WW2 came to town (he lived in London), he deserted and ran off to Devon where he met my grandmother. They married, had a child (my mother) and moved about a lot. They went back to London where he was found, caught and arrested by the army. He then fessed up that he was already married and had committed bigamy. The law has first dibs (the army deal with their own). He went to court (before the army dealt with him) and was let out on bail pending sentencing. While that was happening, my grandma got pregnant again with my uncle. My grandfather went back to court and was sentenced to a year in Exeter prison. When he came out, he went to visit my grandma one last time and to see the son he had never met. Gran wasn’t impressed. We only found out all of this recently because nobody ever spoke about it, and when he married my grandmother, he lied on the wedding certificate so he was very hard to trace (we tried to find him for years). It was only when we started searching the local newspapers that we found the court case and all the details were there in black and white, described in detail, and it left no doubt that he was my grandfather. His fake and real name was mentioned, my grandma was mentioned, the bigamy case and his previous wife was mentioned. A whole bunch of information. Once we had that information, a whole new family started popping up on Ancestry. When he came out of prison, and after my grandma sent him packing, he went to Ireland (they were neutral during WW2), he met somebody else, had another child and then deserted them too (I have Irish relatives). So, I found more first and second cousins I never knew I had. I’ve looked into his life, his history, where he grew up and how his mother dragged him, and his siblings through the workhouses in London, where he worked, his troubled past with the law as a teenager etc. It’s so fascinating and quite unbelievable. Anyway, his life is a long, fascinating story of which things keep popping up all the time, not to mention the very rich / posh family his mother came from (a bit like the Austen’s). Anyway, looking back is totally fascinating and if you have someone you want to find… there are ways to do it these days. Yours is a fascinating story, Joe… thanks for sharing 😊

[@johnking5174]

"Didn't go awfully" - oh how I have heard that phrase from TV producers over the years. A wonderful phrase to keep spirits high. Good luck Joe with it. Is it for the BBC, since you partner with BBC Studios a lot?

[@fionawood2473]

Joe get a fireproof container to put that folder in

[@suemaureenlewis]

Loved this one,I love history and finding out things,I watched your one and was fascinated,I watch all of them, I did start to do mine but got made redundent from my job and couldn't afford to continue,maybe one day I'll try again, much love 🥰🥰🥰

[@annamusic864]

I just went to Bath and the Jane Austen Festival - where in one event, we took a bus tour to Lacock, as it is said to have inspired Longbourn/Meryton from P&P! So crazy that you have this tie to her (both in the letters & in Lacock!)

[@sunflowerdeb1674]

During lockdown I traced our family tree and it was fascinating. On my mum’s side we are closely related to Jesse Boot who founded Boot’s the Chemist. He gave my ancestors money to buy the house that my mum subsequently grew up in. The name of one of our family members was also used for a character in a DH Lawrence novel.

[@denamayes3219]

Joe will cry with pride if Dot wins SCD this year . Would be amazing .

[@Missylou_art]

I find ancestry and family history so fascinating. In regard to the character in Jame Austin's novels. There's also the sister of the main character in Persuasion. She was very "sickly" and kind of annoying, but not necessarily inappropriate socially. This is so cool. Thank you for sharing.

[@ellieparker123]

i've been waiting for this one! i find history so interesting, so this was really interesting:)

[@Sally-qu3kz]

Interesting that one of Jane Austen’s characters in her book Persuasion was an Admiral.

[@liz4799]

Fascinating! I love this sort of thing

[@TaniWeinstein]

I always say that the Butcher in Fiddler on the Roof was based off my Great Great Grandfather, also named Lazer Wolfe who was a butcher in Poland in a neighboring town where the author of Fiddler on the Roof lived. Probably not, but it's fun to say since nobody can disprove it.

[@sarab4241]

Probably! That's so cool!

[@Zoe-Rox]

Great vlog Joe, it was just so relaxing, love you both xx

[@Brandon_Fellows]

PLEASE do an off roading trip! I bloody loved that video so much, it made me laugh 😂

[@elizabethsmith9213]

Enjoyed your vlog again Joe, fascinating story of Jane Austen, I watched your who do you think you are when it was on previously, enjoy these progs. 😊X

[@BG94k]

The scratches on your wheels will probably be from when you got stuck, if your going to use it for off-roading I would buy some spare wheels with off road tyres on as well that you can just change over. A tyre garage will change when you need it doing 🙂

[@emilyrowan8779]

Dear Joe, thank you so much for including your family history! How fascinating to hear about Jane Austen and your ancestors!! I do think you should watch Pride and Prejudice as it is so good; very funny and very clever. Jane Austen's wit, humour, empathy and positivity has long since engrossed me. I love her books and the films/dramas made from the books. I've always been intrigued by Jane's own character, so to hear your story about how she wrote to Cassandra about your family is amazing! I can quite see that the Mrs Bennett character could well be based on Jane's observation on your own Lady W. I'd love to hear what you think (after you've watched P&P for yourself)? Thank you, once again for sharing. Take care Joe. Xx

[@gailpost173]

That’s amazing. Cassandra was in fact Jane Austen’s sister. Thank you for sharing

[@jenniferpayne8432]

Extra fine semolina works really well, also having everything ready for topping so it's not sat on the peel for too long 😊

[@judoangelus1]

7:58 its from being stuck in the mud. Drifting your wheels throught the dirt, scratched your wheels i think

[@MariaPritchard-v8h]

Loved hearing your WDYTYA story, going to watch your episode again, my 6 x great grandfather was a professional bare knuckle boxer, artist model in the hurcules pose! And also later in life a chairman to King George III, (basically not as fancy as it sounds chairman I believe pulled the chair for the king to sit down 😊)

[@merrybeth627]

As a longtime fan of WDYTYA, I love your additional Jane Austen history. 😊

[@ballantyne.alison]

19:43. had to freeze vlog..was my 👀 seeing right. 😂my surname at the bottom of the Eton enrollment paperwork paperwork.. Brilliant vlog Joe . I love that program have watched most of them. ❤

[@MOTHERHUSH]

That wee story about yer family was so interesting. What a cool hing to be able ti have! My partners aunt tracked their family back to bein related to either burke or hare , which i hinks cool 😂

[@sullij63]

I live in Exeter NH, US. My family history on my mother’s side is traced back to 1200s England. I am a direct descendant of Edward (the Colonist) Gilman. His sister Bridget married Edward Lincoln, who had Samuel Lincoln. President Lincoln is my 7th cousin 4 generations apart. I am a direct descendent of William Brewster, who led the Mayflower expedition. I am related to John Hancock, who signed the Declaration of Independence. On my father’s side my family came from Cork Ireland during the potato famine. I found my half siblings through Ancestry DNA. I found my brother a month before he died of cancer, giving us both closure. I love your DNA story. You should put your folder online for other family members to access for future generations. It is a treasure!! Thanks for sharing!!

[@keiragarner7510]

I love this so much as an Austen fan love it even more that you have all of that ❤️ my mum has been researching out families and we have so many wild stories we had a relative that was sent on the prison ship to Oz and also one that was in the battle of clodon in Scotland, I find it all so interesting ❤️

[@janetsingleton1415]

Wow! Very interesting. I love history too abd family ancestry. X

[@gigi.j818]

Love me some Jane Austen tea...that was fascinating! Makes me want to re-watch Pride and Prejudice!

[@drewjamespatrick4054]

What is absolutely insane in the beauty of our existence, is the amount of people it took for us to be here! Simply 10 generations back, it took 2,108 people for us to be here! Imagine how many of us are actually related? My Grandpa always said we were related to Charlemagne, but I think most Europeans are! HA! Cheers!

[@ems.images_]

An interesting story from my family tree is that we always knew that my grandads mum left home really young. We assumed she was abandoned because she got pregnant whilst unmarried but that isn’t actually the case… turns out she ran away at 14 to be with her lover… who was well into his 20s. We never knew that until my grandma did some research into our ancestry

[@sarab4241]

Jane Austen is my 7th cousin 7 times removed. There is a site you can enter a few generations of your family tree and it tells you famous people you're related to. It links up with others' trees.

[@liz4799]

What is the name of the site?

[@kellyannebayley7193]

After watching you talk about your family tree, i want to find out more about mine. Its so interesting ❤️❤️❤️

[@bettinamcdonald5394]

I would never miss one of your vlogs Sir!💐🤗

[@madeleinegerlach4854]

Cassandra was Jane's sister. Mrs. Bennet is from "Pride and Prejudice."

[@craigbailey79]

You and Tom defo need to do more vlogs together asap 🤝🏻

[@frogladybg6199]

That was interesting Joe. I was born in Salisbury but my family were originally from Wales, travelling to Wiltshire during the depression. I used to often walk past St Thomas Church which is just off the Market Place. Your ancestor must have been in charge of that parish many years ago. My mother always said she was a distant relative of Ivor Novello, would love to do an Ancestry to see if this was true! She was named Edith Novello Rees supposedly because of this. Who knows. As your Mum knows my hubby is five years younger than me, just like the lady referred to by Jane Austin. Such is life 👏❤️🐸🐸🐸🐸🐸🐸🐸🐸🐸🐸

[@BevBaker-m3c]

JOE! If your pizza is not cooked through. Put the Pizza in a dry frying pan just to cook the base. Another great vlog so interesting. ❤️Bev xx

[@yvettewilson2119]

This was so cool to listen to! Jane Austen is my favourite author!

[@andydebiasio4288]

Its so strange. Ive grown old watching you. 60 in 2 days from now

[@mandyedavis7978]

I am totally addicted to researching my family tree and discovered that a paternal ancestor’s father in law was the founder of Blackgang Chine, Alexander Dabell who opened the original park in 1843.

[@lyndacarter9131]

Love anything to with ancestry. Yours was so interesting thanks for telling us about Jane Austen amazing. We found on my husbands side of family that an ancestor was on expedition with Shackleton we found a photo and also a painting of his wife was in the national portrait gallery still need to find out more. You are extremely lucky to have all that information to pass down. 🌳

[@getready2smash264]

The water in the sauce is stopping it from cooking try using less sauce and put the fresh mozzarella in the fridge once it’s sliced to dry it out. Also helps if you lay it on some kitchen roll

[@wendysparks4346]

Thanks for adding your” family history” I actually tried recording the program you appeared on but unfortunately there was nothing to see when watching it , so disappointed 😔

[@faycafeb1089]

Great family history! I have so many stories but then I started research back in microfiche days 😂 after nearly 40 years still finding new things.

[@josuke9219]

If you off-roading the Defender again, you HAVE to get better tires. The tread those tires look low af, and they’re not off-roading tires, that’s why you got stuck in the mud so easy.

[@morganpa7]

Your Ooni oven needs to be up nearer 400 deg so the stone is really hot.. that will cook the pizza base 👍

[@rachfrank]

You should ask Zoe how to make the mortadella and pistachio pizza 🍕 😂

[@susanbryant276]

A very interesting vlog enjoyed it thanks x

[@AnotherLittleSoul]

Family history thing: my paternal grandmother was one of the mental health nurses who examined Myra Hindley and said she was ‘pure evil’

[@bubblebuswell]

we used to have a coat of arms but because my great great (?) grandfather married someone who was lower class, we lost the privilege. it’s pretty interesting to learn about. i’d love to research more about it!

[@MummyJilly]

I’ve been waiting for this vlog!

[@louisahyde6165]

Well well well

[@sarab4241]

Loved your ep of that show.