Ep82. How I stole $1.2m from a senior government Minister.

Precious was sentenced to 5 years in prison in 2020 for stealing millions in cash from a high ranking Government official in the previous government. She was pardoned by president Hakainde Hichilema on 24th October 2021. She shares her full story with us on this episode.
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#ZambiasTopPodcast #ZambianPodcast #ThatZedPodcast #PreciousNmaz99

[@thatzedpodcast]

Who else wants more of such episodes?

[@mbalemoses3]

Me

[@tysonshachele4980]

we all do, who is this lady though ???

[@PhrankKankasa]

This episode looks lit 😅

[@faithfaymwale7031]

Bring more, .. infact Bring Owas Mwape we want to know how he forged documents

[@victormatambo2047]

We definitely want

[@sheyforever1978]

Elson ending up saying “thefty” after several attempts to correct her is killing me😂😂😂😂

[@vincentmithi1318]

😂😂

[@trisha7073]

Hilarious!

[@elsonchigerwe1]

If you can’t beat them…join them

[@jenniphermusowe3237]

😂😂😂that's why kalenga laughed and said wow

[@lasiwenjovu6232]

I laughed so hard 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂Elson wakulekafye

[@nataliekangwa7221]

I think Elson, needs more of these interviewees. He was so engaged, this is most attention he has ever given😂👏

[@chrissamiselo708]

He is the better of the pair

[@normanmukuka3821]

The fact that you brought someone who is not a “celebrity” or connected to one of them it made the episode unique. Big up to you guys

[@chilufyasaili263]

Exactly... They should do this more often.

[@oliviamanase1466]

She is... She is Namz99 closet.

[@malexmalembeka4995]

​@@oliviamanase1466 IL i mjooj ol i Pomo moloo mopk Mmoo Moj oo Mkm Mio ojo moplo😊 m O Moo M.oopo jo

[@malexmalembeka4995]

​o Ool😊 Mj olm to pomiomomo mok of o mo 😊o jolko Mo oomo Mm mm m moo Mio Mio.n mooo😅omo O p😊mol Joo .omok. nokomoj Mio O😅.ok Ooomo Opomopook Oo Jooonmjomo Loo Mopoop

[@mkatongo6376]

Amazing episode 🥰🥰 Please bring Dora mono Nyambe , a TikToker living in Mkushi running an orphanage

[@leonardchisenga4110]

I think we need to vote for the best interview of the year, as fans..for me I'm nominating this one

[@grahamchiwewe5445]

Give this lady a reality show Not that other drama we see This lady is a civilized savage Goal getter Very smart too Morden kabolala Otherwise really enjoyed the episode

[@everythingtogain2010]

She is a bloody criminal @

[@ndanjimiston8218]

Can we please agree that she's actually smart. I mean, she remembers all these processes and terms. Kudos 👏!!!!!

[@mercykadolo5211]

I loved the show this episode shes a smart lady enjoyed her interview and could imagine how she had to handle childbirth depression with marriage depression❤️And her prison life. Shes a beautiful woman and so determined sending her hugs❤️😘

[@phallenkaunda-q6l]

By far the most blunt guest you have ever had 😂😂I really enjoyed this episode 🙌❤️

[@Thatzulugirl05]

The only reason elson was so engaged! 😂 because majority of their guests are reserved especially in the kind of conversations Elson likes

[@zbdaily9141]

It was awesome,the fact that I personally lost track of time says a lot about this particular episode...i have been observing her on her social media page i was blown away by how quickly she responded when I inboxed her...i might have not gotten what I was hoping to get via reaching out to her buh the fact that she even responded to me that in itself was plus.....BIG SALUT TO HER and YOU GUYS FOR HOSTING HER.

[@agnessmanda2933]

It's Elson saying "thefty" and looking at Kalenga with a smirk for me. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@chisambob05]

I was dying😂😂😂

[@ndanjimfula5930]

😂😂I know right

[@phocuslwando2024]

I swear 😂😂😂 Elson alitumpa, that was one of the highlights

[@phocuslwando2024]

Great sense of humour though 😂😂😂

[@tabiemwila221]

Noticed that too😅

[@paul-et1936]

i love how it’s becoming almost like podcast and chill with macg. Africans are finally making an identity. You may not know but you’re inspiring other young podcasters .

[@thatzedpodcast]

This is so inspiring boss.

[@marilynphiri179]

Now these are the kind of shows we need to be seeing not ma reality shows Yama dongo dongo ya fake! Big up guys!!

[@mwayamulenga6912]

Really enjoyed this episode, I think you bringing someone we don’t know was a brilliant idea which should be done more often. I’m not against Elson but I think sometimes when a guest mispronounces a word he should try to ignore it,lol

[@JeffCooliz]

Simply one of the best raw interviews I’ve watched on this show🙌🏾.

[@christopherngoma2806]

Yes

[@DonnaMK]

Great insight in how the prison system is broken and corrupted. Africa has a long way to go. Sadly! I love her honesty.

[@mavisngosa3975]

Wow this was epic. I pray she stays safe and finds a genuine guy to share her life with.

[@andrewmdzakazi2594]

This lady was my next door neighbor in Ibex. She became family, she spoke to me like a brother whenever she had a chance to. What an episode!❤️❤️

[@BigTimmy5531]

Is what shes saying true??

[@giftkaseba4625]

About stealing the money it's true she did

[@bestofnow_7772]

Her current job and her, 'entanglement' in the line of duty were such a plot twist 😂😂😂😂 This episode had me hooked

[@PenniasMulauzi]

I found this episode enlightening. Some of these things we would never get an insider's perspective unless someone whose endured reveals. Just a word of advise to the production that if we are going to have investigative podcasting, we need to ensure that limits are observed for certain asks to avoid getting the subject in problems. Just from this, so many loops are probable leaving the subject vulnerable legally. ALSO ......put money to it and have people emerge from the woodworks with content beyond comprehension!!!!!!! #HellOprah

[@sharaichamzy5185]

Elson saying "thefty" and K-plus picked it up immediately 😂😂😂😂😂. Friendship goals

[@patrickmukwato5299]

Uncle E was a handful though. I mean c'mon sneaked and snuck are both acceptable 😅.

[@soneittmbewe2495]

This is by far my favorite episode. Hands down

[@chipasha-chipasha]

Elson saying "thefty" is pure mockery 😂😂😂 kudos for the sense of humor

[@benjaminsikanyika7650]

Can you bring in some senior officer from the correctional services to come and explain what they are doing about these irregularities highlighted in this episode, please

[@francisantoniochikondejr7663]

I had stopped watching TZP but this lady brought me back!!!

[@priscovitadvine6605]

This episode was epic. Precious big ups to you Elson saying Thefty and looking at Kalenga 😂😂😂

[@pezopriscachingole7922]

Did you hear when Kalenga said "stop it" to Elson 😂😂😂

[@mobelamusute8235]

I died🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@VanEssa-gv1ye]

I saw that 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tamara.banda4563]

Hahahaha 😂 observed that too, he kept saying the 'wrong'word😂😂😂

[@gabrielmizinga]

At 49:50min. She just said, 'You know what? After I came out, I knew how much I stole'. Clearly the money is still there... she counted if afterwards 😂

[@BeckyMonde]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@bbellahannah5593]

I loved this episode but I must say, I found it annoying how Elson kept on making fun of her English. Let's grow up a little please. It's a good thing she didn't take it to heart.

[@kalumbasongwe8766]

But she was composed...

[@nothandoncube8163]

Its not fair the way he was doing the interview

[@kaucillianamz7347]

The problem is that Zambians we like acting as if we are British and expect everyone to speak good English but people from western world countries do most interviews in their native languages and are never mocked about it.

[@mercyngulube3736]

This episode was elite, full of educative concepts Precious is so smart I like her too much

[@chinulazyambo3721]

There is so much to learn from this episode and the energy was just so amazing from the start to the last sec. The guest understood the concept o the podcast. Keep it up Gentlemen.

[@wilsonmulamba8553]

I can even feel her pain ,just the all emotional one... broken marriage, finding herself in prison, and the searching 😔😔😔😔

[@nellie15]

This is the best episode I have seen since the beginning of this podcast. She is a very interesting person.

[@MapaloKatongola]

As a first timer this is mind blowing.....more of such episodes will bring you closer to more normal people that wish to hear more of such cause wow just wow

[@m.a.s5952]

THis is gonna go down as one of the best episodes ever 💪

[@christinerchikwanda1502]

There's just something about this woman,true definition of a strong african woman bold beautiful and so courageous . Wish to meet you oneday namz ❤❤❤❤❤

[@gflixes]

Personally, this was so emotional for me, very educative and enlightening content about what goes behind bars. Thank you, keep up the good work

[@mobelamusute8235]

I swear, Eish🤧

[@PhackweiiLuanshya]

How do bring in pf govt. Yoo case was exactly theft and you confess and admit to have stolen.l think no politics involved pls.just talk about prostituting and theft.

[@PhackweiiLuanshya]

Very intelligent woman but should have social wisdom more now

[@mondengenda2382]

Trust me all she said was a lie🥺🥺she as actually apologized saying it was a stunt

[@Taani_Zanotti]

Elson knows damn well that him saying thefty after several attempts to correct her is another level of sarcasm 😂😂😂😂😂

[@mukoshamwelwamarshar3859]

This is by far my favourite. I see a strong woman here

[@noahtaruwona8937]

Here because of the Danny J Show . Kudos to the ZED team👏👏👏

[@langsonphiri517]

I hope she didn't say too much, otherwise we need more of such episodes. 💥💥

[@chileshebwalya6707]

This was the best ever interview I have watched kudos to you guys and precious for her courage and openness.

[@isabelkaweni7973]

It was insightful. Emotional and all. And a wake up call to visit prison places😢

[@mobelamusute8235]

My thought too

[@lissamwenda624]

I love this podcast, this particular episode for me though was ABSOLUTELY EPIC. The best and the most raw by far

[@noahmulongotijr7935]

I think this is the most fun Elson has had on the podcast, dude was laughing so hard he almost choked 😂😂😂... Awesome episode 💯

[@cheniahmisodzikalebi5332]

This episode is really 😔 the government really needs to look into improving correctional facilities.Shout out to you Precious for telling your story so openly..

[@mondengenda2382]

Trust me all she said was a lie🥺🥺she as actually apologized saying it was a stunt

[@naomisoko8139]

“Like an honest thief”🤣🤣you know what one day someone will slap elson

[@IdahLeza]

I tell you 🤣🤣🤣

[@shepherdmpansi2318]

THIS was a fire episode and very educative. The number one podcast for a reason🤜🏾🤛🏾

[@joankafwanka9112]

1:11:33 true this one is the best episode

[@pridekatele]

The openness is just topnotch 😊

[@violetlikando1782]

Even when she did wrong, She was bold to say am guilty. This woman is an inspiration to other inmates and to us woman... I would love to meet her..

[@Man-Sito]

This episode is dope. You guys did well to bring someone not famous atleast we hear what 'other' people are going through in life.

[@mwangombalushidaka8227]

Yes, bring more episodes like these, not just celebrities .

[@drtashkash2398]

She exposed too much, i hope you keep yourself safe😮😢

[@chilufyasaili263]

For sure....

[@shymanshaizo]

This needs a part 2...Bring us more of such stories

[@vickie332]

Am I the only one that wants to know who this high ranking ex govt official is? Keeping trunks of dollars in the house??? Gosh this country suffered. Good interview 👍 👏

[@sandrakabenda5719]

Kambwili

[@hildahmuchelemba2708]

This by far, has been the best episode yet. Well done guys! More of such, please!

[@cliffordilunga7022]

I like precious she has given us everything you asked her

[@tor6328]

Watching k plus and elson is like watching brian and stewie from family guy😂

[@mosessitali3263]

Lol true

[@Renford1203]

This is the most watched episode I have ever seen on TZP

[@lissamwenda624]

Recidivism refers to the tendency or likelihood of an individual to relapse into criminal behavior after they have been previously convicted, served a sentence, and were then reintegrated into society. It is commonly measured by the rate at which individuals who have been previously incarcerated commit new offenses and are re-arrested, re-convicted, or re-incarcerated within a specified period. Recidivism is often seen as an indicator of the effectiveness of rehabilitation and reintegration efforts within the criminal justice system.

[@marianamunts5160]

Aweh precious is a straight forward person she just answers point blank

[@michelochoombe311]

Uncle Elson You Had Very Good Points Today Especially On REHAB Instead Of Prison

[@Cecilia-dt6fz]

I died when Elson said thefty and kalenga giving him a side eye😂😂😂😂😂

[@chiluba7475]

What is very hurtful about this episode is knowing that our correctional facilities spend so much money buying food but very little food is given to the prisoner, donations aren't given to the rightful owners. Our systems in this country are so rotten. Other than that I would have loved to know who's money was stolen. Great episode gents and lady

[@faithnchenje3955]

👏👏👏we need more of these, you should bring her back. She is a vibe❤❤❤

[@ngandwejoshua8487]

I sympathize with individuals who choose to engage her services as a private investigator😥. By publicly exposing herself, she has potentially endangered her professional future. Great show zed podcast👏

[@christabelchalomba3717]

I wish this woman well… probably the best episode thus far for me - funny (thefty/sneaked) and very informative.. an episode that is likely to change the correctional services system.. inmates have rights too.

[@BlueDealers]

First full episode I’ve watched- I enjoyed it and I liked her bluntness 👏 but truth be told Elson was rather irritating mwe 🙄 with his distracting commentary when precious was trying to answer to build up to certain explanations.

[@christinechisanga4443]

This has been one of my favorite episodes ❤,please bring us more real stories

[@christabelpalata169]

I remember Kambwili reported that issue I guess this story relates 😂

[@patiencegoma2422]

This is the best episode 🙌 👏 Elson's sense of humour is to die for🤣🤣🤣

[@faraikondwaninkhoma8042]

this is deep content ... that's one strong woman.

[@tehillahpraisephiri5412]

This episode was so great, her character is one most people can relate to, like people know her but not as much as the other guests...so this gives us something different, it's interesting.

[@VanEssa-gv1ye]

I had fun watching this... I love the honesty and that is the first step to becoming a better person. ❤️

[@mhuandakayombo9580]

At least we what kind of reforms we need to make our prison system better. Thanks @Thatzedpodcast I enjoyed the interview

[@markkwanga1723]

"Under Thefty" Elson couldn't let it go 😂😂😂😂

[@chibekachiyaba3834]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@chewensofwa8337]

He killed me with laughter

[@muchinduthole4511]

This is by far one of the best interviews

[@gideonchengosiame1259]

20mins in and we already have a thousand people watching 🔥🔥🔥

[@pezopriscachingole7922]

People love controversy 😅

[@greyfordmwase]

You can't be tried for the same offence twice.

[@lisahalbert2817]

I so love this lady❤❤❤❤,so strong,smart and real.i have really enjoyed this episode. Big up

[@chileshebwalya8279]

She’s so unprofessional, how do you fall for a client 🤣🤣🤣

[@nellie15]

At least she gathered all the data she needed and realized he would be a great boyfriend 😂😂😂😂

[@maxillllll]

When elson asked why are you here she answered you called me here then he said no I didn't 😂😂😂

[@jacquelinemonicampande2420]

"I see snitching is in your family" -Elson 😂💀

[@nataliekangwa7221]

It's about time you both did a 2 man show 👏 🎉

[@chisambob05]

She has really stuck to being broke😂😂😂. I love her

[@elizabethmwenya2649]

This one is one of the best this year. I love her❤

[@bevynechabala9231]

Elson was having a blast on this episode 🤣🤣🤣

[@tapiwachikanda8511]

I have a lot of questions for precious though. this is the best episode I have watched from start to end ….. Thumbs up guys

[@khadijakhalid2955]

No audio only podcasts, we want the cameras!

[@MC-bf9mm]

Great episode❤ Please interview other Africans like Akothee from Kenya and the hostess from the YT channel digging deep uncensored whom was born in Zambia and is Namibian. Zambians we love our own and are also interested in other Africans as well. ❤

[@francissikazwe3237]

She stole money in 2020 and she gets pardoned the following year in 2021? the prison system is broken really.

[@marygenesiskazembe1887]

I tell you

[@nkolemungomba3033]

@mutinta7967 it is, she was sentenced in January 2020 and pardoned on the 24th October 2021

[@samanthamlukonde5319]

Let’s have more raw podcasts like this one.. not the fakeness that comes there … people failing to say things as they are supposed to be said … I loved this

[@clementsmwakamui9464]

This is the best interview I have watched this year. The guest was excellent. She did not dodge any questions but answered them without fear. Well done Zed Podcast!

[@tuxi187]

Could have asked ma questions ya nzelu regarding the money , womens welfare and incarceration buti looks like nyele took over. The lady has a lot to say that’s important that was not covered

[@chileshebwalya8279]

Maybe you should create your own podcast and ask your own “important” questions cause guys it’s too much of you guys policing how these guys conduct their interviews/podcast, give them a break please!😊

[@Loops-TV]

Best guest so far ukufumishako Ba DaNNY, Chef 187 and Macky 2.

[@International_Traveller]

Even Lyapa

[@Mbunda-d3z]

Continue the wonderful work guys I hope one day u will host patson daka

[@NatashaPhiri-jd3vd]

There is more to this story.. So wen someone pleads guilty for theft the court doesn't recover the stolen items or wat am a lil bit confused.. Precious much love, u are a strong woman

[@ruthmwaanga7735]

Initially they are supposed to recover, but in her case she said she used the money there’s was nothing to recover…..

[@aminapharah3906]

Precious for president!! #EPIC #BEATRICEMOMENT

[@paxinamatesu567]

Indeed she reminds of of Beatrice too😆🤭

[@chisomohara5448]

This is soooo enlightening- I didn’t know more than half of the things discussed here.

[@Lindamukuwa]

Typical case of twalisebanakale, twendelafye ubukaya😂😂

[@ompieshoonji7335]

Kaleza 😂 but I like her mwe 😂😂

[@lukwesamwape3683]

Elson with the "why are you here..." question 😂😂😂😂

[@nkolemwaba2526]

Is it me, or is there actual tension between K Plus and Elson

[@chileshebwalya8279]

It’s just you😅 these two understand each other!!

[@princeofwakanda4174]

It's just you 😂

[@musamish5883]

It's you these guys really joke like crazy and we enjoy almost in every episode

[@didianakalobwe5524]

Just you