The 13 Primes are getting their own figures?! | Giant Robot News, Feb 26, 2024

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@RetroRobotRadio 3 ай бұрын

The Transformers Collectors Club tried to get permission to start making all the Primes as exclusives in 2016 and Hasbro stopped them because they thought it would compete with the Prime Masters in the main line. Arcee into Solus Prime, Perceptor into Alchemist Prime, Skullgrin into Liege Maximo, etc. We have seen the concept art.

@Arrobane 3 ай бұрын

Glad I could be of help with the Prime news. lol Also, Optimus Prime (Orion Pax) is the reincarnated form of Thirteen.

@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 3 ай бұрын

Just some guesses for how the 13 Primes might be done, IMO: Prima: A brand new mold. Vector Prime: A possible re-issue of the supposed Legacy United Galaxy Force Vector Prime, but with his Aligned Continuity colors. Alpha Trion: Possibly his Studio Series 86 toy, but with his colors from the Aligned Continuity. Solus Prime: A brand new mold. Micronus Prime: A brand new mold. Alchemist Prime: A brand new mold. Nexus Prime: Maybe a pre-tooling for a new Legacy Bruticus toy. Onyx Prime: A brand new mold. Amalgamous Prime: A brand new mold. Quintus Prime: A brand new mold. Liege Maximo: A brand new mold. Megatronus/The Fallen: Maybe a heavy re-tool of Kingdom/Legacy Galvatron. The 13th/The Arisen: A brand new mold.

@bphater31 3 ай бұрын

The twins are shorter than bumblebee. Remember that bumblebee pick them both up in the movie?

@shangoat2008 3 ай бұрын

VERY excited for the 13 primes, would be interesting to see what art style they go with. Personally anything in the lines of Cyberverse BAF Maccadam would be great.

@scottsummers5994 3 ай бұрын

From those leaks nothing was mentioned about bruticus specifically, yeah they listed swindle, but speculation is it could just be animated swindle as a stand alone figure, not the full combaticons And in titans returns alpha Trion was a lion/aircraft carrier, not a retool of astrotrain. I think more of a precursor to broadside

@theultimatewolf5788 3 ай бұрын

Yeah definitely broadside. And it might not be animated swindle if it was it would have Animated next to his name like Waspinator has animated next to his name

@scottsummers5994 3 ай бұрын

@@theultimatewolf5788 not necessarily, but I could be wrong I'm just going off of what I heard

@TheBananaman39 3 ай бұрын

I predicted this a while back at the beginning of legacy! So excited for all the primes to finally get toy forms!

@finnballinger5791 3 ай бұрын

I think we’re actually getting vector prime in Legacy United!

@flame1245 3 ай бұрын

I could guess given the size class I say solus prime could be a heavy modification of ss86 arcee based on the 3rd party companies making a solus prime remolded after their version of arcee. Now with alchemist prime I hope they heavily base it off maccaddam from cyberverse

@adrianbrown3085 3 ай бұрын

According to The Covenant of Primus, the 13th Prime returned to the Allspark and was reborn as Orion Pax. His figure already exists.

@amewett 3 ай бұрын

The Fallen also got a toy from the Titanium Line.

@danvastator8984 3 ай бұрын

Maybe it's been covered by another comment, but Nexus Prime was done by the TFCC from the Superlink/Energon moulds

@MegatronRose 3 ай бұрын

Wow! Baltmatrix and That Toy Guy know each other?! That's epic! You two should do a crossover! Please?

@bruticusdude65 3 ай бұрын

For Solaus prime i think she'll be some kind of cybertronian jack hammer vehicle. As for Silverbolt i think the combiner mode pieces might make another jet or one of those vehicles that pull planes about

@ArchJ17 3 ай бұрын

Ok but I find it funny that micronus the first mini con is not a minicon. Like I know for toy reasons they wouldn’t but I’d be cool to see the primes in scale with each other. Also this now makes me want a 3rd party company to make figures of all 13 primes (especially idw designs) in scale

@khoonkitlim5963 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for today's Giant Robot News, Balt!

@MrMarsFargo 2 ай бұрын

To explain, for those wondering what the heck "Optimus" is doing there (two explanations, in-universe and behind-the-scenes): *IN-UNIVERSE:* The 13 original transformers are "multiversal souls." Unlike somebody like Megatron and Optimus for instance, who all have distinct "variants" in each continuity/universe with individual personalities/souls, the 13 are unique in that there is only "one" of each of them in the entire multiverse. They have individual bodies/forms in each universe, but these essentially act like "vessels" or physical "avatars" for a single soul (spark) to travel between when traveling the multiverse. Sometimes, if a cosmic event happens, one of these bodies can actually become "disconnected" from the shared avatar string (or "siiingularity" as it's called). This happened in "Shattered Glass," where that version of Alpha Trion (usually not a multiversal being/not one of the 13, will get to that) became a multiversal being like the 13... but one of his bodies/many avatars in one of the universes (specifically the "TF: Prime" one) became disconnected from the stream, becoming its own unique variant with its own soul/spark. Until 2013, only 6 members of the 13 were known for sure (with the rest of their identities being mysteries). "TransFormers: Prime" revealed the remaining 7, but also subtracted one of the original 6 as "not a canon member." In 2015 the OFFICIAL lineup was finally firmly established. This included the 6 original members from G1, 4 of the newly introduced members from "Prime" and retroactively established 4 previous characters to be members of the 13. However, the official "multiversal" 13 and the "Prime" 13 have slightly contradictory lineups. 9 of the members are the same, but 4 of the members are different in "Prime." One of the strangest contradictions is that "Prime" revealed one of them to be... Optimus Prime? How can that be? Clearly that's impossible, since he's not a single multiversal being (given he has unique variants with unique personalities/souls in each universe). And how does one account for the other 3 members in "Prime" that are different from the rest of the multiverse? Well, believe or not, this has an explanation... and it's the same as the concept of what happened to the "lone" variant of Alpha Trion that broke off from his Shattered Glass counterpart. Specifically, Optimus is not the ORIGINAL "13th Prime." That Prime's body that was in the "TF: Prime" universe was killed by the Fallen, _reincarnating_ to become Optimus Prime. This also happened in IDW, since it's heavily implied that universe's Optimus Prime is reincarnated from one of the 13 killed by the Fallen. _EDIT: in addition to this, the comics by Fun Publications (TransTech, Shattered Glass) also addressed the other 3. In the comic "Invasion: Prologue," Nexus Prime used the Star Saber to destroy significant chunks of the multiversal space time continuum. This split multiple members of the 13 from multiversal beings into individual variants, essentially separating their avatars into individually unique souls/personalities in each universe (losing their "single multiversal being" status). Some of these variants even took on new names, different from their original name as a member of the 13. The 4 members of the 13 unique to the "Prime" universe are among the members who got "split" into variants, one of which was killed and reincarnated into that universe's variant of Optimus._ It's unclear whether the Fallen kills the 13th in every universe, or just kills individual "avatars" that then become disconnected "lone variants" like SG Alpha Trion (I personally lean toward the later). One of the arguments that he did in fact kill the entire overall being that is "the 13th prime" is the fact the Matrix of Leadership is established (or at least heavily implied) to contain his soul in the IDW universe. Hence, every Prime in the "lineage" of Matrix bearers is carrying the soul of the slain 13, becoming a conjoined "reincarnation" of that slain member. Essentially what happens to the various avatars of that member, spread out across the universe, is different in each universe. In some, his soul splits in half and is reincarnated (usually as Optimus). In some, his soul becomes an artifact like the Matrix/Allspark. But essentially, it's implied the lineup is different in "Prime" because those four's "Prime" universe avatars died (and were reincarnated as the 4 members unique to the "Prime" universe). *BEHIND-THE-SCENES* Hasbro had the absolutely bonkers, and wildly mishandled, idea to create an "Alligned" continuity that would start a new "multiverse" that all future TransFormers continuities would spring from. To be clear, this wasn't just another new continuity... this was intended to fully reboot THE ENTIRE TF MULTIVERSE, being completely unconnected to the previous one and the continuities it encompassed. Hence, even though it's clearly impossible for Optimus to be a "single multiversal soul with one variant" like the other 13, they figured it was okay to do that in "Prime's" universe because... well, "Prime" isn't part of that multiverse! So nothing in this canon counts toward that old one, right? Well, at least it ORIGINALLY wasn't. Hasbro so botched the execution of this "new multiverse" reboot, that they ultimately retconned it and just said "Prime" is another universe in the old multiverse. This creates all sorts of huge problems, because now there are two completely different lineups of who is and who isn't in the 13, instead of the single unified one that was consistent in all continuities for years. If they're multiversal beings, there can't be "variants" of the 13. This required Hasbro to explain this major continuity error very publicly, via posts from "ask Vector Prime" and other guidebooks, explaining Optimus wasn't ACTUALLY the 13th, but a reincarnation of his spark after the Fallen killed him (thus re-establishing the 13 don't have distinct "universe variants" like the other TransFormers). But this has never been explicitly said onscreen in a narrative work of fiction, and this poorly executed idea of "rebooting the canon multiverse" by ignoring the old one has left irreversible damage on the continuity ever since.

@MrMarsFargo 2 ай бұрын

For those wanting full context, here's the two lineups of the 13 (with who's different in each crossed out): *MULTIVERSAL 13* - Prima - Liege Maximo - The Fallen - Vector Prime - Nexus Prime - Alchemist Prime - Solus Prime - Micronus Prime - Onyx Prime - -Logos Prime- - -Solomus- - -Epistemus- - -Autonomous Maximus (aka "the Last Autobot")- *PRIME 13* - Prima - Liege Maximo - The Fallen - Vector Prime - Nexus Prime - Alchemist Prime - Solus Prime - Micronus Prime - Onyx Prime - -Amalgamous Prime- - -Quintus Prime- - -Alpha Trion- - -Optimus Prime- It appaers Hasbro is basing this new line on the "Prime" 13 rather than the "Multiversal" lineup. Logos and Autonomous Maximus already have pretty decent figures at least, but I'm a little bit peeved that this means two members of the "Classic" 13 are potentially not going to get this same treatment of receiving proper figures (if another Optimus is part of this instead of Solomus or Epistemus, I swear I'll lose it 😂).

@blixentejada1671 3 ай бұрын

Legacy already ending, and then there's me who's still trying to get my hands on an Armada Universe Prime

@Razalonjrt1 3 ай бұрын

I would like to actauly see brand new combiners for both sides I mean it nice to get new updates on the old but then again there are soo many of them down the years I think it time to get new teams. The primes this would be intersting to see too if they do complete new molds but down side is costs and then one time use.

@Xeno-The-Wanderer 3 ай бұрын

Honestly wish they forgo aligned continuity’s lineup and replace the Arisen with one of the older primes before Prime… well the Ark is already Autonomous Maximus so that leaves us Logos Prime and a perfect opportunity to make a repaint into cybertron Soundwave

@Magni_Prime 3 ай бұрын

I'd only get thise skids and mud flap if they made the ice cream truck vehicle mode. The 13th prime is Optimus. Not considered, it is blatantly said in the Covenant that Optimus is the 13th.

@afanofstuff9123 3 ай бұрын

Oh aye the twins are tiny compared to bumblebee he lifts both of them up one hand each and throwers them at least 15 feet away in Jordan.

@snipercan007 3 ай бұрын

I'm looking forward to get them 2hen they come out

@Ranma_Leopard 3 ай бұрын

I can't wait to see the 13 primes

@daganisoraan 3 ай бұрын

Knowing Hasbro, they will find multiple ways to frick up the 13 primes, from limited releases for some, less unit produced, wonky release per countries, or just repaint some old molds for the 1-2 lasts to be produced. Heck, I collected the 13 primes last time they were produced as power masters and man, on of them was exclusive in a 200$+ set, aka predaking and the last 5 were a SDCC/takara release with Optimal and his throne.

@CJ-tk1np 3 ай бұрын

Cant wait til they address Computron

@ZedMazaus480 3 ай бұрын

Well Botmatrix, while Vector prime does have his spaceship altmode in cybertron. He won't be the same design when they do it for this line, since it's a different universe Vector Prime. Also the reason why we aren't seeing him yet in this new line is because we're already getting an updated Cybertron Vector Prime in Legacy United. So they probably want to give both version's figures sales breathing room. And unfortunately at least one of the missing primes in the line up is suffering a simular issue. Other figures that are getting released with their names to close to this lines release. Which means these missing primes may not see figures until 2026 or longer. The combining prime is probably getting pushed back due to both Superion and ss86 Devastator dropping the same year and wamt to spread out the numbers a bit. Especially since he'd end up a commander class on his own too. Which silverbolt is suspected to be taking that slot already too. A conumdrum to say the least.

@datfloof2732 3 ай бұрын

OH HELL YEAH

@redwolf980 3 ай бұрын

Oh, I Remember That Mudflap Or Was It Skids Human Alliance Figure: One Of The Twins/Megan Fox Human. Idk Why One The Twins Was Human Alliance. But It Was The Worst Human Alliance Balt. Megan Fox Looked Creepy As A Human Alliance Figure Balt. You Probably Wouldn't Have Loved It.

@dreaddragon9497 2 ай бұрын

If it’s Prime continuity then most of them don’t transform. They could be anything.

@kevinboutwell 3 ай бұрын

aw yeah Giant Robot News

@samurexatlas7373 3 ай бұрын

At last, all 13 in one series. Onyx is definitely gonna be interesting.

@Windrazor8403 3 ай бұрын

I am so excited we're getting the 13 primes yay

@tessbolick6605 3 ай бұрын

I'm just hoping Alchemist looks like Cyberverse Maccadam, I wasn't able to collect the build a figure for him but he was one of my favorite characters from that show

@todddavis2041 3 ай бұрын

If Hasbro are going to release Silverbolt and Onslaught as commander Class, they shouldn't sell them individually. Release them in a Commanders class vs pack with all the combining components.

@cilffjumper290x5 3 ай бұрын

that's a stupid idea

@todddavis2041 3 ай бұрын

@@cilffjumper290x5 Well do you have one then?

@atilanoiiiamores4742 3 ай бұрын

my take on the 13 of the Primes: Prima ( leader) - all jets Vector Liege Alpha Trion Micronus- flying saucer Solus- hover car Megatronus- hover tank Onyx- dragon Alchemist / Amalgamous/ Optimus ( the original) - cybertronian trucks Quintus- cybertronian satellite Nexus- as a combiner, with his dark fleet- carrier, barge, hovercraft parts