0:28 Khvosto 1:30 Elsie’s Rifle 2:41 Graviton Lance 3:45 Prophet of Doom, Deadlock, Mentioned Madadore 64 5:39 Red Death 6:47 Hung Jury 8:27 Ace of Spades 9:22 Bygones 11:35 Igneous Hammer 13:21 Ice Breaker 15:21 Rose 16:48 Conditional Finality 17:44 No Time To Explain 19:00 Hammerhead 20:32 Hawkmoon
@hauptmann332 ай бұрын
Didn’t bungie say hawkmoon would be made craftable at some point? Or that the exotic mission would come back? What ever happened with that.
@Meesax_itchi2 ай бұрын
They did say that. Maybe they still will. They seem to like holding on to good ideas for a little too long before acting on them
@morebigly68862 ай бұрын
Yeah. Like 2 years ago.
@tcritty28122 ай бұрын
They definitely didn’t mention hawkmoon specifically. Just that exotic missions would be put into a rotator.
@VAVORiAL2 ай бұрын
They're afraid of it
@DFH022 ай бұрын
no, everyone just assumed it would be hawkmoon
@glowiboi2 ай бұрын
Dalt I'd love some shotgun testing like you did with the Slickdraw perk. At least with Someday, Matador, Prophet, CompassRose, maybe RetoldTale, and Deadlock if u have a good roll. We need to see which of the 5 shotguns are actually the best. I really appreciated your shotgun testing video.
@TheSpenceBoogie2 ай бұрын
They all s tier lol
@glowiboi2 ай бұрын
@@TheSpenceBoogie but there is a difference in hipfire and ADS mapping between all of them. they all have different chances of mapping
@mmzavadil2 ай бұрын
Great vid as always! Origin Story with High Ground also feels really really strong
@Arctic_Dragon-f6d2 ай бұрын
i've been praying every season for the last 2 years that hawkmoon would be craftable. It's definitely my favorite gun in the game
@tylersmith3847Ай бұрын
Hearing this guy talk reminds me of the gunsmith from John Wick 2. Daltnix if banchee ever leaves the tower your definitely the runner up
@timme6512 ай бұрын
The ultimate guide i was looking for! Thank you so much!
@drasticthompson19952 ай бұрын
I have a V1 Bygones and it has Headseaker and rampage with high cal. 💪🏾
@joelhoyle9728 күн бұрын
Volatile hunter build, gyrfalcon hauberk + graviton lance is a good class for pvp
@LivingTheorem2 ай бұрын
I feel like Thorn, Ace, and Hawkmoon can be paired together as the holy trinity of handcannons.
@waffle32772 ай бұрын
I just started destiny 2, and right after i chose the void element as a hunter I got graviton lance. I assumed everyone got it, but was I just super lucky?
@Daltnix2 ай бұрын
No I forgot about the starting packs lol. They are new ish.
@waffle32772 ай бұрын
@@Daltnix ah ok
@mikekuhn815124 күн бұрын
Lone wolf and closing time🙌🏼
@KarmaKai2 ай бұрын
@6:48 is you have some vanguard engrams lying around, hung jury sr4 was a nightfall weapon at a point in time. the difference is that the new variant from onslaught is that it comes with an origin trait that works very well with your subclasses and abilities. the vanguard variant has two swappable origin traits that will work with final blows that regen health, and champion stunning. honest opinion: invest in the onslaught one. it looks pretty. =)
@lynqex56562 ай бұрын
riposte is crazy good
@Hawkmoon5512 ай бұрын
LESSSSGOOOO number 15 thank you so much buddy❤
@bulcyman12632 ай бұрын
haha that was 100% a cat getting in the way 19:37
@Daltnix2 ай бұрын
@@bulcyman1263 😅
@thenummerzone2 ай бұрын
@@Daltnix cat tax... cat tax...
@isaactheforgemaster2 ай бұрын
3:23 new players can get graviton lance from Ikora
@St3aDyAimАй бұрын
Peak tier gameplay brother!
@Herbasaurusrexx2 ай бұрын
A shayuras wrath is absolutely filthy with zen kill clip/ tap the trigger
@Daltnix2 ай бұрын
@Herbasaurusrexx It was very close to making the list! if it was a top 20 list, it would definitely be on it
@BlitzHawaii2 ай бұрын
Idk man. I’m still running people down with someday no prob. I see what you’re saying about the stat difference but in my opinion, the way fights go down with shotguns those differences aren’t really noticeable at all. It’s only when you’re trying to map people with a shotgun that you MIGHT see those differences come into play. But come on, it’s destiny 2, you could have 100 in every stat on your shotty and it would still be inconsistent at range.😂😂 (Unless it’s slugs, that’s a different ball game entirely)
@Camman18Lover21 күн бұрын
What about Deadman's tale?
@helios92962 ай бұрын
No Luna's howl? Am i the only Luna's stan.
@agamerjourney91462 ай бұрын
It ok but there better 140rpm hand cannons
@Dolphin_editz692 ай бұрын
@@agamerjourney9146Luna is a 180 I think
@Arshay2 ай бұрын
Luna's is excellent. You just need a good roll. It's very strong, and personally I prefer it to Rose when paired with Lucky Pants. 65 ae for free is too good.
@agamerjourney91462 ай бұрын
@@Dolphin_editz69 Luna is 140rpm hand cannon now. Bungie changed its rpm years ago to nerf the gun in pvp.
@WolvesGarage2 ай бұрын
Luna is good but is a pain to get a good roll, and in its slot there are craftable 140s, Nation of Beasts is just so good in the energy slot. Plus Luna is just outclassed by Rose stat wise other than AE and is easier to focus and has multiple rolls for PvP where Luna only has two viable perks in both columns
@Ginyasha-2 ай бұрын
Right on mate. Kinda frustrating to me that it's all either pulse (mostly high impact), shotgun, or HC and of course Khvostov thrown in the mix 😅 Hope Bungie can mix it up a wee bit soon
@LivingTheorem2 ай бұрын
You don't have to use these weapons. Every weapon-type in the game is usable. Not every archetype though. The only time I ever feel like I have to swap to meta to secure a win is in high level comp. 260 and 200 scouts are the only weapons that are seriously hurting, minus Symmetry. Maybe some archetypes of Auto rifles too.
@simplyfitness8922 ай бұрын
@@LivingTheoremyou do not have our sbmm then lmao.
@nacho277228 күн бұрын
What is your fov you have nice aim
@AJ_Rz2 ай бұрын
imo icebreaker feels awful but the perk is broken, I still prefer cloudstrike you still get double kills but not triples are rare
@vman77652 ай бұрын
Original story. With high ground is also class
@Based_Shogun2 ай бұрын
I farmer it last season and turned in a ton of engrams. It's an absolute workhorse in PvE and PVP.
@Daemonic62 ай бұрын
I would say Luna's Howl also a great pick in any kind of PVP especially with new mods which gives +6 range and stability, so you can get decent amount of it and if you play on controller so it's one of the best choices.
@agamerjourney91462 ай бұрын
There better 140rpm hand cannons in the game. That totally out gun it and have better status/perk combos.
@oCcBrutalforce2 ай бұрын
@@agamerjourney9146 there's no 140 legendary HC that beats Luna. It's hands down the best legendary HC on controller with it's ease of use and incredible perk poll.
@Arshay2 ай бұрын
I use it on m & k, and it's still extremely strong. Magnificent howl on a 70+ range role is like having a opponent under your thumb in 3v3s. 120 dmg to the dome that you can hold indefinitely changes the dynamics of any fight. People also seem to forget its insane airborne effectiveness stat package. It has 40 AE without any mods. With the buffs to lucky pants you get 65 ae without any mods.... very strong.
@Daemonic62 ай бұрын
@@Arshay I like more PI, cause of gives you bit more range.
@agamerjourney91462 ай бұрын
@@oCcBrutalforce really don’t play pvp much if believe Luna is best 140rpm hand cannon.
@TheDeadb3arАй бұрын
So unfortunate that this vid came out before the 120 hand cannon buff. Now all of them can 2C1B without PI
@TheWorstNAАй бұрын
No thorn 😢
@Based_Shogun2 ай бұрын
One day I'll get the best shotty in the game from RON
@Phillip-s4j2 ай бұрын
Question. Does this content apply to F2P members?
@satsunoryu2 ай бұрын
Cool vid! Just a note, every damage perk on Bygones gives it a .60 as far as I can tell, even Desperate Measures. Insane gun. Edited to .6 instead of .67.
@alphaandomega27092 ай бұрын
Keep away desperate measures any good?
@christopherbrownington2 ай бұрын
@@alphaandomega2709yes but most people would want zen moment
@satsunoryu2 ай бұрын
@@alphaandomega2709 It's fine, but I agree that Zen Moment is better. I love the stability it instantly provides. If you look up the #'s, it's quite dramatic as soon as you start landing shots. Keep Away is tight tho.
@skintxisu2 ай бұрын
.60 with high ground
@satsunoryu2 ай бұрын
@@skintxisu Yeah it's .6 with 1 stack of Desperate measures too. The point is the damage perks are basically equal on this weapon for basic TTK.
@jonathancotter74292 ай бұрын
are you really sleeping on Lone Wolf on deadlock?
@100subsandilleatanonion72 ай бұрын
Yeah probably because it sucks, gives airborne effectiveness and aim assist on a shotgun which are pretty useless and only in rumble or when you’re teammates are dead 💀
@MonsterUNIАй бұрын
I miss Crimson on your list.
@ghoulfulu41802 ай бұрын
I have this trust roll that's a 180 and has 91 stability and rn I'm having a lot of fun with it
@MedicallyHigh2 ай бұрын
As a solo player, I game vanguard and gambit a lot. I got a shoot to loot + kinetic tremors on my Bygones, is that a god roll? I thought it was because kinetic tremors proc the shoot to loot mechanic?
@Xarviz2 ай бұрын
Did you say: easy to get, you just have to farm garden of salvation? 😮
@laurence36722 ай бұрын
no messenger?
@skuirrelTV2 ай бұрын
Great video
@Kazaki30892 ай бұрын
yo what do u think of crimson tho u ever had any lucky with that gun?
@Daltnix2 ай бұрын
@Kazaki3089 Crimson is pretty good, especially if you play on controller. Its range and ttk is definitely a little lacking in this meta. Very fun gun tho. Personally, I love using it even if it isn't the most meta at the moment.
@Kazaki30892 ай бұрын
@@Daltnix thank u for the reply and ur time🙏🙏
@dookiescroungerАй бұрын
what does everyone think about 360rpm sidearms? i personally love anonymous autumn with zen moment/lone wolf and kill clip it absolutely melts
@glowiboi2 ай бұрын
the Vanguard HungJury is so much better because it has the Omolon +20Stability origin trait
@agamerjourney91462 ай бұрын
New hungryjury is so much better because it’s new perk rolls. New perk origin is more for players that build in own class setup more.
@glowiboi2 ай бұрын
@@agamerjourney9146 There are no new perk rolls for PvP. You are misinformed. The only good PvP roll on hung jury is RapidHit/NoDstiractions+BoxBreathing. This roll is on both versions of the gun. Do you know WHY Rapidhit is the most common pvp perk in column 3? Because it gives around +12 stability in a fight. You know what else gives +20 stability for free? The Omolon trait. Cope harder.
@agamerjourney91462 ай бұрын
@@glowiboi can enhance your old hung jury? Oh no you can’t lol.
@glowiboi2 ай бұрын
@@agamerjourney9146 you can. I have it enhanced. its retroactive. are you dumb? bro you're so fucking clueless stop typing.
@glowiboi2 ай бұрын
@@agamerjourney9146 Yes you can, its retroactive, god you're dumb
@zhalosupercell95182 ай бұрын
Ignorant Hammer number 1
@gatlinlaser2 ай бұрын
Woooo Graviton Lance my baby!
@MedicallyHigh2 ай бұрын
According for the perk pool you showed for the Hung Jury, I have a Hung Jury sr4 with rapid hit and kinetic tremors. Is that a roll not possible? I’m really confused seeing kinetic and rapid hit in the same third column. Am I wrong or mistaken? I’m hella confused lol 😅
@chrisotoole822 ай бұрын
There's multiple versions of the gun. You might have onslaught version or previous strike version or something
@MedicallyHigh2 ай бұрын
@ I’ve had it for years so I don’t know where I got it. So is my roll one that isn’t common anymore?
@Yerlockk9 күн бұрын
One slot should just be any shotgun with great range 😂
@JahjuanRАй бұрын
How come he doesnt say where to get the HammerHead?
@vesperpool27 күн бұрын
onslaught
@traprexx30862 ай бұрын
Right after I wasted my ciphers 😂💯
@poopiedoopie22102 ай бұрын
Where Rat King?
@scottparrott56742 ай бұрын
Super super good
@Lunk-7G0X2 ай бұрын
I'm simple trust enjoyer
@Sprayquaza2 ай бұрын
Does GoS have a chest to purchase weapons like other raids? I literally have not ran a raid in like 3 years lmaooo Edit: turns out it does not. Good luck to everyone trying to craft prophet of doom
@afri2n2 ай бұрын
no but there is a weekly quest similar to last wish, and u can farm 2nd encounter when it is 1 of the 2 weekly featured raids
@Sprayquaza2 ай бұрын
@@afri2n nice! So at bare minimum, 5 weeks to craft it or just farm it? Next step is to find people to farm it with. Thank you!
@Sadcatblake2 ай бұрын
Does ace of spades actually have more recoil then normal for its archetype or is that purely visual?
@christopherbrownington2 ай бұрын
just visual at least for me
@afri2n2 ай бұрын
it has a lot of kick when you first start using it, but it has a very comfortable pattern once you get familiar. the low stability stat is pretty misleading
@Sadcatblake2 ай бұрын
@@afri2n yeah ive used it to great effect before,it just feels terrible even though ive had absolutely great games using it.
@Bob-mm6hq2 ай бұрын
RIP bygones with high ground....... 11/19/24
@zowiebentley57402 ай бұрын
Somebody diddnt farm hawkmoon
@lordofprolapse67192 ай бұрын
Glaciocasm
@uvelin7772 ай бұрын
Bro slipped in symmetry in the thumbnail
@Poixon_22 ай бұрын
worst meta in a while, i cant with these bygons and elsies dude, just sit at the back of the map meta
@Marzellus1991Ай бұрын
It's so bad. They never come out of spawn
@AugustTangvald2 ай бұрын
W rat
@CrustaceonsReef2 ай бұрын
Is this from a legit player perspective or from a maximum cheating potential perspective for the 25% of crucible players who use cronus or xim?
@humanactivated10172 ай бұрын
Ah since all the guns are legal in the game and when to use them you do r get banned like you do if you are cheating this video isn’t for you
@afri2n2 ай бұрын
what kind of question even is this
@brianfleeman74292 ай бұрын
I purposely teabagged all kovostov users in PvP. Turn that gun off for pvp.
@Based_Shogun2 ай бұрын
You sound fun.
@hudscp2 ай бұрын
Lmao anytime something other than a hand cannon is good there are people like you clutching their pearls
@Chados.2 ай бұрын
LMAO FUN POLICE 😂😂😂
@barbaricbri2 ай бұрын
Anybody relying on exotics is just bad.
@scottparrott56742 ай бұрын
Dude ur playing destiny a looter shooter mmo with pvp tacked on. Not some esport lol.
@barbaricbri2 ай бұрын
@@scottparrott5674 doesnt change the fact lmao
@LivingTheorem2 ай бұрын
This comment is kinda senseless, as there are legendary weapons stronger than some exotics.
@afri2n2 ай бұрын
??? ohh you run full legendary armor and weapons how cool of you
@barbaricbri2 ай бұрын
@@LivingTheorem half of this list is literally exotic weapons 😂