That must have taken a long time to put this excellent video together. Milt Plum is still going strong at age 89. Great video, Mark!
@markgardner94609 сағат бұрын
Thank you, Evan. Yes, it took longer than normal by quite a bit.
@MichaelPiz9 сағат бұрын
I've said it before and I'll say it again: For football, those were the days.
@markgardner94609 сағат бұрын
For me, it doesn't get any better.
@bravobravoh134410 сағат бұрын
Love the uniforms back in the day.
@markgardner946010 сағат бұрын
Crisp and clean!
@skee197 сағат бұрын
The best NFL channel for us old farts ! Loved Sonny ! The best QB to never play in SB, sadly broke his leg in 72’
@markgardner94607 сағат бұрын
I love it!!!
@Boomhower8911 сағат бұрын
I had written that I thought they updated the QPR several times. I thought I recalled them saying they did but looking back it is the same calculation being used since 1973. Interesting. Thanks for another great video. Love your channel
@markgardner946010 сағат бұрын
Thank you! Could win a huge bar bet with the Milt Plum trivia. Just sayin'. Nobody but Mrs. Plum is familiar with him.
@stevenzimmerman40579 сағат бұрын
@@markgardner9460 I was going to mention Milt Plum not exactly a household name!
@Boomhower89Сағат бұрын
@ that is a fact 👍🇺🇸
@JerryFerko11 сағат бұрын
OUTSTANDING !!!!!!! AS ALWAYS ................... THANK U AGAIN ...................
@markgardner946010 сағат бұрын
I'm really glad that you liked it - thanks!!
@DT-dz1jc7 сағат бұрын
FANTASTIC! Great memories. As a Cowboys fan I loved seeing the Staubach stuff & I was remided how I despised Brodie & Jurgenson & later Kilmer but even I couldn't hate Tarkenton. Jones sure could sling it & Anderson was an UNDERRATED surgeon. Stabler like Staubach was fearless. With those guys their team was NEVER out of a game and you didn't even show Bradshaw or Gabriel or Hart...or Hadl & Fouts. The modern NFL can't hold a candle to those days. Remember these QBs were lighting it up with ACTUAL pressure & the threat of ACTUAL hits. There were HEADHUNTERS in the middle of the field. OLine holding was ILLEGAL & that ridiculous 5 yard illegal contact rule didn't exsist. Most QBs called their own plays & even those who didn't could ABSOLUTELY read a defense & had no trouble checking into or out of a right or wrong play. If pressure caused one if them to have a Dak style panic attack they didn't last very long. Very VERY few of today's or EVEN those from the 90s through the 2010s coulda played in those days. We fans just didn't know how good we had it. I've seen Staubach finish games with a concussion & his fingers pointing all directions & could you imagine Lambert or Tatum & Atkinson or Hendricks or Cliff Harris or Mel Blount even playing today? It'd be constant fines & suspensions. Good. Old. Days.
@markgardner94606 сағат бұрын
Thank you for your comments. I'm glad that you mentiobed how the QB's from back in the day used to hang in there until the last milli-second before throwing the ball. They knew that they were going to get their clock cleaned, but they wanted to throw the ball downfield in an effort to gain the first down. Now they either check it down or roll out of the pocket and throw the ball away.
@ac95599 сағат бұрын
Another fine video. John Gilliam could have been cited for loitering while waiting for Tark's passes. Love them both!!!!! Your choice of music is a big part of why these videos are so great. One small suggestion....more shots of the ladies please, love the women of the 70s!!!!!!
@markgardner94608 сағат бұрын
That pass wasn't one of Fran's more timelier ones, that's for sure. Normally he threw a fine deep ball - better than most, in my opinion.
@ac95598 сағат бұрын
@@markgardner9460 He was great up to maybe 40 - 45. You get around 50 and it was pretty much a jump ball.
@stevenzimmerman40577 сағат бұрын
Check out his pass to Gilliam in the 1973 NFC Championship Game a perfect pass covered 55 yards in the air...
@markgardner94607 сағат бұрын
He ate his Wheaties that morning. I loved the way that he put his body weight on his back leg, then put everything he had into his deep throws.
@stevenzimmerman40577 сағат бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Yep he had to get his entire body into the deep passes!
@obbor48 сағат бұрын
Snake was the best passer of the lot, followed by Sonny Jurgenson. Both were pinpoint passers who threw tight spirals. Stabler used to thread them between the arms of defenders only to end up in the hands of Casper, Branch, or Belitnekoff. His Raider years are right up there with any who played the game.
@markgardner94608 сағат бұрын
Good thing for Raiders fans that he ended his early retirement in 1969 from the NFL.
@jstube368 сағат бұрын
A thing about that Cowboys v Bears game in 1971. Morton was called on to finish the game. Roger thought he was done in Dallas. Coach Landry knew he had to make a final decision. He liked Craig. Morton was Tom's ideal QB. But Landry also realized that Roger and his unique abilities were best to run his refined offense. Decision made, and what a decision. The Cowboys, thanks to Roger and a crushing Doomsday Defense, won the rest of their games in 1971. Including running over the Dolphins in SB VI 24-3. About the rule changes. The NFL tried many different ways to jumpstart offenses during the 70's. The run-game and outstanding defenses were ruling the game. in 1974, The league moved the Goalposts to where it is today. because too many teams were settling for FG's. But Defense and the Run game was still king. The low scoring continued. The final straw might have been SB XII. Still my favorite SB ever. Orange Crush vs Doomsday in New Orleans. One of the most hard hitting Super Bowls ever. Doomsday was so ferocious that Denver was limited to just 35 yards in the air. The League had enough and began making changes. Adding two games to the schedule made defenses more tired. Along with the changes mentioned in the video.
@markgardner94608 сағат бұрын
Thank you for noting that Staubach took the reins at QB for the remaibder of the year. I was going to mention that in the video, but I overlooked that amongst my stack of notes.
@davidhickey18307 сағат бұрын
Craig Morton JUST missed being on this list with his 1970 season. Led the NFL in TD% and YPA, 6th in INT %, but a poor 20th out of 24 in completion %, ending with an 89.8 passer rating that year. Then he went and played possibly the worst 3-game stretch of playoff quarterbacking ever, yet almost won Super Bowl V. Morton finally broke the 90 barrier at 38 years old with his stellar 1981 season...
@jstube367 сағат бұрын
@@markgardner9460 If Landry hadn't changed his offense the year before, Morton might have gotten the nod. But defenses were cutting off the deep pass. This hurt Morton. With Tom anticipated this because he began to use the same defense. So he went to a more run-oriented attack. That favored Roger and what he could do on PA Bootlegs. I think both Staubach and Tarkenton excelled because those changes favored what they could do with their legs.
@jstube367 сағат бұрын
@@davidhickey1830 The problem for Craig by late 1970, he became a walking bruise. He took so many hits in that time. The Cowboys basically got to SB V on the strength of their run-game and amazing Defense.
@markgardner94607 сағат бұрын
Great stuff! Thanks for providing.
@depaola635 сағат бұрын
Great work on this classic piece ❤️⭐️ I’m now 61 and love watching these times 🏈📺👀 a lifetime Vikes fan!
@markgardner94605 сағат бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! I was a Vikes fan for a long time, so I know what being a fan of theirs has been like.
@stevenzimmerman405711 сағат бұрын
It's not difficult to imagine why Griese had such a high TD percentage in 71 with Miami's offensive line and Zonk Kiick and Morris! A good play fake and someone like Warfield would be wild open!
@markgardner946010 сағат бұрын
That is said of Bart Starr, too.
@stevenzimmerman405710 сағат бұрын
Geez did Snake Stabler have a great 1976 season!
@stevenzimmerman405710 сағат бұрын
As great as a coach as Tom Landry was that alternating QB system of 1971 was odd I almost think that he outsmarted himself!
@stevenzimmerman405710 сағат бұрын
You're right about QB ratings Mark! You can't compare the 70s to the wide open style now!
@stevenzimmerman405710 сағат бұрын
Insane catch by Stu Voigt 26:22! Not fast but a great set of hands 26:22 ! I remember Summerall and Brookshire saying he just pops out of the ground when Minnesota needs him to!
@mhlaw2297 сағат бұрын
Isaac Curtis and Charlie Joiner were a terrific duo for Ken Anderson in the mid 70s. Thanks for another great video!
@markgardner94607 сағат бұрын
Yes they were...and Tight End Bob Trumpy was a solid target, too. Thank you!
@stevenzimmerman405710 сағат бұрын
Loved Jergy! A fantastic quarterback on some bad teams early in his career! Wonder what would have happened Lombardi had lived and stayed Washington's head coach! George Allen mostly favored Kilmer!For my money Sonny threw one of the purest deep balls ever!
@markgardner946010 сағат бұрын
Lombardi said he was the best QB that he had ever seen.
@stevenzimmerman405710 сағат бұрын
@markgardner9460 High praise coming from a guy who coached Bart Starr among others,!
@mhlaw2297 сағат бұрын
Yes, Jurgensen was a tough guy, great QB. He and Meredith had several great duels in the late 60s
@Artamusgordon10 сағат бұрын
Great video! Nice job once again. 👍
@markgardner946010 сағат бұрын
Thank you, Man of Many Disguises!
@joeyvocals13 сағат бұрын
Sir, another fantastic video! Throughly enjoyed it! I was born decades after these players played! 7-16-96. Going back in time is fascinating! Those were real players and people, too! Joey in Cleveland
@danielpollak60759 сағат бұрын
🏈👍. "He played in all 14 games in 74' but only started 4 of them." What a peculiar stat. Very enjoyable video, ty, gd🎶 too👏🍻
@markgardner94608 сағат бұрын
Of those 14 games, Jurgensen didn't throw a pass. He was the holder on field goal attempts, so he played in every game. Thank you!
@skee197 сағат бұрын
He also came off the bench frequently in relief of Kilmer and Sonny should have started the 74’ playoff game vs Rams . Allen hated Sonny and cut his nose to spite his face most of the time!
@stevenzimmerman405710 сағат бұрын
This may seem like a odd statement but Staubach was so good so consistent and with the Cowboys around him his excellent play almost got taken for granted!!(And I'm a Viking fan!)
@markgardner946010 сағат бұрын
Made the Pro Bowl each of his last 5 seasons - not many can say that. Plus, he lead the NFL in QB rating each of his last 2 seasons. I doubt that anyone else can make that claim.
@stevenzimmerman405710 сағат бұрын
@@markgardner9460 I don't think so
@hammer44head5 сағат бұрын
Wow, this was really good compilation Mark!!! Loved the first few Fran to the Spin Doctor td's i dont think i have seen those before on any highlights probably since the game was on or maybe monday night highlights with ol Cosell. Some great footage on here!!!!
@kylemarzion281423 минут бұрын
I'm 57. As boy I started watching football in the 74 season. The 70s were the best. But not so much for my Packers. Lol. Great video again. Thank you.
@jammininthepast9 сағат бұрын
Earl Morrall, flat top w/fenders. I remember (specifically) watching him on an important Monday Night game the year he stepped in for an injured Griese and won, good game. All of these guys played a ton of snaps with a large sample size, amazing. If I had to pick a qb for a two minute down by 4 from this group? Snake Stabler, Staubach, Tark, Sonny. Notice today's game is +/-200 yds routine, it used to be around 300 (routine).....today's qbs run the ball themselves more, dual threat right. The passing in today's game is dynamic but less emphasized I guess....look how the yds per game have gone down. Thanks man, I dig the highlights and back music.
@markgardner94608 сағат бұрын
Great comments! I'll narrow your list of 4 QB's down to 2: Staubach and Tark because of their scrambling ability. There wasn't a ton of blitzing back then - certainly not like now. No offense to the other chaps - it's just my opinion. I wonder how long some of these running QB's are going to continue running - even though they rarely are hit, there are still a lot of non-contact injuries that occur when running. It has to do with this recycled car and truck tire material that's mixed in with the fake turf - cleats cling to the stuff and there is no give on the knee joints.
@williamparker88405 сағат бұрын
Good job again. I am sure you know , but there is a great photo of Lenny Dawson smoking a cigarette at half time of the first Super Bowl.
@markgardner94605 сағат бұрын
Was that at halftime or at the end of the game? Thank you - I'm glad that you enjoyed the video!
@NigelIncubatorJones10 сағат бұрын
Great stuff. Love those facemasks.
@markgardner94609 сағат бұрын
If I was a QB, K or P in the NFL today, I'd wear that Len Dawson facemask just to stand out and be noticed.
@NigelIncubatorJones9 сағат бұрын
@@markgardner9460 Amazing that they wore those, and the single-bars, in an era when defensive linemen could really beat them up. I'd have had a facemask like a modern hockey helmet grill.
@markgardner94607 сағат бұрын
Wasn't it Kicker Kevin Butler of the Bears who left his single bar loose so that he could pull it down for better vision on field goals?
@JasonSubikМинут бұрын
Great video, as usual. You always seem to include footage I’ve never seen before, excellent work!
@stevenzimmerman405710 сағат бұрын
Don't get me started on Kenny Anderson!!! Why isn't he wearing a gold jacket?
@markgardner946010 сағат бұрын
I knew you were going to bring that up...and I don't blame you one bit. Quite deserving is he.
@stevenzimmerman405710 сағат бұрын
@markgardner9460 I always do forgive me!
@bryanjones444410 сағат бұрын
@@stevenzimmerman4057 One of the 3 or 4 most underrated quarterbacks of all time. The Real Goat scoring system has him as the 15th best to start a career after 1947. He scores better than some big names like Farve, Elway, Warner, Moon and way above Bradshaw.
@stevenzimmerman405710 сағат бұрын
@bryanjones4444 good information!
@markgardner94609 сағат бұрын
Elway only passed for more than 20 td's in one of the first 10 years in the NFL!
@rogerquintanilla8637 сағат бұрын
Love the channel and really love the music. Where do I find this music playing in the background.
@markgardner94607 сағат бұрын
I obtain the music via my editing software and KZbin Creator. I'm not sure if it's available elsewhere.
@stevenzimmerman405710 сағат бұрын
Not surprised to see Fran Tarkenton several times!! Possibly got more from his ability than just about anyone else! Cunning and resourceful!!Carrol Dale sighting 9:14 he longest reception as a Viking ( 1 year) and his pass against Cleveland for a TD to Stu Voigt would undoubtedly not count today! ( Knee down)
@markgardner946010 сағат бұрын
#84 Carroll Dale as a Vike. Who would have thunk it back then that the long time Packer would play for The Purple?
@stevenzimmerman405710 сағат бұрын
@@markgardner9460 I never got used to it!
@bryanjones444410 сағат бұрын
Great video again! 4 of the 5 quarterbacks to appear twice on this list are in the top 15 all time according to the Real Goat scoring system. Only Stabler is outside the top 15 at #27 with a score of 402. Just above 50% better than the average quarterback from any era. I have not gotten to running Brodie through the process yet but I am only about 60 hours from retirement so I think I can get to him in the next two weeks or so.
@markgardner946010 сағат бұрын
That's awesome! Tick tock, tick tock. I bet you can't wait. Please let me know where Brodie is ranked. Thanks!
@stevenzimmerman405710 сағат бұрын
@@bryanjones4444 What about Tarkenton?
@markgardner94609 сағат бұрын
I could be wrong, but I thought that I read that he had him ranked somewhere in the top 10. This was a few months ago.
@bryanjones444458 минут бұрын
@@stevenzimmerman4057 In a nutshell the basis of the Real Goat system is to compare all the greats to the average quarterback of their own era and then compare those numbers to all the other greats. I use 16 different categories including things that you never hear about like fumbles, the % of the offense that the quarterback carried and strength of schedule. There is an adjustment for how good your own defense was and longevity plays a part as well. The top 4 set themselves well above the others and from #1 to 4 they are Tarkenton, Manning, Brees and Johnny U.
@stevenzimmerman405754 минут бұрын
@bryanjones4444 Nice research!
@saberdogface3 сағат бұрын
Those Washington "Spear and Feather" helmets were great.
@beeblack26 сағат бұрын
Excuse sir I notice in the 70s.. you always leave out the greatest players like the Pittsburgh Steelers... Lynn Swann John stallworth Franco Harris terry Bradshaw . You got to give these guy some air time ... They was 70s NFL best
@markgardner94606 сағат бұрын
Swann, Harris, Bradshaw and Franco have all been featured in my yearly draft videos and I have an entire video devoted to Terry Bradshaw.
@dondajulah41688 сағат бұрын
Who was that Bears DB that got toasted twice by Cliff Branch?
@markgardner94608 сағат бұрын
Virgil Livers
@dondajulah41688 сағат бұрын
I did some research on him and found this nugget: When did cups become uncool? Yeah, tell that to Virgil Livers. He's a former defensive back who played for the Chicago Bears from 1975-79. While fielding a punt at Soldier Field, Livers was speared in the groin. By halftime, one of his testicles had swollen so badly it had to be -- ugh, more flop sweat, oh the cramps ... breathe, breathe! -- drained with a needle by the trainers. Somehow, Livers suited up for the second half. That was a bad idea. A really, really, really bad idea. Later that night, he was rushed to the hospital where the mangled orb was surgically removed. Now, here's the kicker. When I finally reached Livers, who is an assistant principal at a high school in Kentucky, I asked him about his "injury," and the guy started talking about his knee. Can you believe that? His freakin' knee! The one he blew out with the Bears, then rehabbed for two full years in order to play again in the USFL. "Uh, well, no, sorry, I was talking about the, uh, the ... " "Oh that," he laughed. "It's no secret. It was in all the papers. The truth is, it wasn't really all that painful. It was all just ... numb. My knee injury and the rehab I had to go through was far worse."
@markgardner94607 сағат бұрын
I love stories like this. Thank you for sharing!
@docnoc669 сағат бұрын
Hi Mark - wearing my 1974 Sonny Jorgensen home white Skins jersey for this one….i just picked up a Mitchell and Ness Hugh McIlhenny red 1950s 49ers durene for $30 size 52 - going to wear to the gym
@markgardner94609 сағат бұрын
That is quite fitting for this video. I could have gone with the blue Bert Jones, but decided to go with Jurgensen, too.
@stevenzimmerman405711 сағат бұрын
Morrall was the rags to riches story going from losing to the Jets in the Super Bowl to winning 2 !
@markgardner946010 сағат бұрын
3X Super Bowl champ
@aaropajari705810 сағат бұрын
@@markgardner9460the one against Dallas doesn't count.
@dondajulah41688 сағат бұрын
His Topps 1976 football card has to be one of the collest of all time.
@aaropajari70588 сағат бұрын
@@dondajulah4168 Yes. He looks so OLD but so happy.
@Paul11B2P6 сағат бұрын
Roman Gabriel 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@markgardner94606 сағат бұрын
I love Gabe. The closest that he came to a 90 passer rating in the '70's was in '73 when he had 86.0
@raymondfioravanti41587 сағат бұрын
Never realized Dawson played til age 40.
@markgardner94606 сағат бұрын
I think his body was still relatively fresh due to only starting 2 games in his first 5 seasons.
@kingofallmediums212310 сағат бұрын
Love those Commanders helmets with the R 😂😂😂😂😂😮😮😮😅😮
@markgardner946010 сағат бұрын
Have they changed their team song yet to "Hail to the Commanders" yet? Doubtful. Maybe they rid of that a long time ago.
@kylemarzion2814Минут бұрын
I loved those Yellow Redskins helmets. With the R. Yes cool!!
@topJimmyP19845 сағат бұрын
Roger Staubach retired the NFLs #1 rated passer or all time!! Led the league 4 times!!!!
@stevenzimmerman405711 сағат бұрын
Dawson 3rd in QB rating at retirement!? I didn't know that!
@markgardner946010 сағат бұрын
Namath complained that Dawson's rating was so high due his propensity for the short passing game.
@bryanjones444410 сағат бұрын
Defenses in the AFL were poor compared to the NFL and Lenny only had one quality season after joining the NFL, not counting his partial season that made this list.
@markgardner94609 сағат бұрын
He had a difficult time staying healthy those last three years. Those 376 sacks evidently took their toll.
@stevenzimmerman40579 сағат бұрын
@@markgardner9460 376 sacks, especially mostly in the 60s Dawson took a lot of hits! Not like Pastorini or Manning in my opinion!
@argelbargel76808 сағат бұрын
I had never heard of any passer rating system until the mid-90s. In any case, the figures are deceptive. Today, 3rd and 1 is a passing down; the QB goes into the shotgun (I'd make that formation illegal, if I were king of the forest), throws a 2-yard pass, and everyone ooohs and aaahs over the completion % and passer rating. All quite apart from the hobbling of defenses by stupid rules. It's not the same game.
@markgardner94608 сағат бұрын
You are correct - it is far from the same game. Phoney baloney statistics now. QB throws a 2 yard pass, WR runs 20 yards because of legalized holding and atrocious tackling.
@dondajulah41688 сағат бұрын
The completion percentage carries too much weight in the formula. I think it actually should be removed entirely with more weighting for yards per completion to offset it.
@markgardner94607 сағат бұрын
I like that. I'd also add a 3rd down conversion ratio factor, although I'm not sure what percentage would be the benchmark for a perfect rating of that factor.
@tomdavey87239 сағат бұрын
Len Dawson with a white facemask seems so strange!!!!!
@markgardner94609 сағат бұрын
I think the Broncos may have been the first NFL team to wear white facemasks.
@markgardner94609 сағат бұрын
Especially looks strange with that wraparound portion!
@lesdavis35968 сағат бұрын
Categories vs. catagories.
@dewood94637 сағат бұрын
Why isn’t Ken Anderson in the Hall of Fame.
@markgardner94607 сағат бұрын
It's ridiculous that after all these years he's not been inducted. There's absolutely no reason for him being left out.
5 сағат бұрын
That’s not Milt Plum. It’s Bill Nelsen.
@markgardner94605 сағат бұрын
No, that's incorrect. The photo of Plum lined up under center shows "16" on his helmet. Bill Nelsen didn't start playing for the Browns until 1968 and the team did not have numbers on their helmets during his tenure with them.
3 сағат бұрын
@@markgardner9460but Milt Plum didn’t play in the 70s. His final season was 1969.
@jjw565 сағат бұрын
Who isn’t on this list: Archie manning. I will argue that he was not a good qb.
@oliverferreirajr452510 сағат бұрын
Roger that is a little better than Montana
@kingofallmediums212310 сағат бұрын
Quarterbacks and kickers have for the most part have gotten better since the 70s 😊😊😊😊
@markgardner946010 сағат бұрын
The league makes almost all of the rule changes in order to enhance scoring and the playing conditions are mostly pristine...but I hear ya - your point is well taken - they're better.