The 1800 Baker Rifle: The Action at Cacabelos and Plunkett's Shot PART 2

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@MrEKWesq
@MrEKWesq 21 күн бұрын
Notwithstanding "little fits of inebriety," Plunkett really was the model of a rifleman and, to quote his colonel, "a pattern for the Battalion."
@Frank-bc8gg
@Frank-bc8gg 20 күн бұрын
I would say the fits of inebriety are what make him part of the pattern of the battalion! Never trust a man that cannot hold his liquor
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Indeed.
@exploatores
@exploatores 20 күн бұрын
I like that you keept the missfires in the video.
@johngreen-sk4yk
@johngreen-sk4yk 19 күн бұрын
That's what I like about Robs presentations, He tells it like it is " warts and all." Even if He has a bad result, He leaves it in
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
They happen!
@peteandresenfamilyadventur8742
@peteandresenfamilyadventur8742 20 күн бұрын
Well when you misfired you didn't flinch! and you didn't shoot your foot! Inspirational...
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
I tried very hard not to....
@kieran2221
@kieran2221 20 күн бұрын
Bless you for your honesty, sir. It's great to see that you're not trying to show this in some false 'heroic' narrative, but dealing with true practicalities of the action. Also, credit for your very dry humour, this Brit definitely appreciated it.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Cheers!
@Caratacus1
@Caratacus1 18 күн бұрын
Supine seems like a fine way to accidentally shoot your foot off. Thanks for a fascinating vid.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
If you are not careful, yes..
@geoffshepherd2108
@geoffshepherd2108 15 күн бұрын
I have walked through Cacabelos and over the bridge 5 times completing the Camino de Santiago. I know the broad ‘facts’ of the Plunkett story and always regale my walking companions with his exploits. However your excellent in-depth experimentation and analysis has added much more context and understanding of Plunkett’s famous shot. BZ to you - well done, and thanks from a first-timer to your channel - I’ll be back for more - for sure. Cooee from Australia.
@yt.602
@yt.602 13 күн бұрын
Search out Rob's other stuff, a real wealth of great informative vids on his channel.
@TheRedneckPreppy
@TheRedneckPreppy 20 күн бұрын
It's a long wait for your videos, but it is *always* worth it. Thank you Rob!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@shinrapresident7010
@shinrapresident7010 20 күн бұрын
Well, sir, on first sighting the video, I naturally gave the order to Like and Subscribe. That's my style, sir!
@jamie-fm6mx
@jamie-fm6mx 20 күн бұрын
Well said sir Henry
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Many thanks!
@pinkushatejar
@pinkushatejar 20 күн бұрын
Rifleman out in the field in 95th rifles uniform ringing targets at distance? now THAT'S soldiering
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Cheers!
@mayfieldcourt
@mayfieldcourt 20 күн бұрын
This is living history at its best, thank you!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Very kind.
@revy1063
@revy1063 17 күн бұрын
@23:11 haha well played, I thought I saw something!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Haha!
@Schlachtschule
@Schlachtschule 23 күн бұрын
I have been looking forward to this! I found the analysis of the various factors here fascinating. It seems difficult to believe that he'd have kept his knapsack on given the experimental results here, although your point about not losing one's gear is very valid (I am reminded of a unit of the Berdan Sharpshooters losing all of their fancy Prussian knapsacks when they dropped them for skirmish duties, but were unable to return to get them again). And your analysis of the supine problems was very nice to see since we read a lot of uninformed speculation about this. Also, very cool hobnails. Thank you very much for going to all this trouble and sharing it with us.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Thanks Rick!
@Schlachtschule
@Schlachtschule 14 күн бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders this is Hugh!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
@@Schlachtschule I'm so sorry, Hugh. I did know that... The perils of a moment of inattention while juggling multiple conversations. My apologies.
@Schlachtschule
@Schlachtschule 14 күн бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders LOL! No worries, I never expect anyone to know who this is.
@foowashere
@foowashere 23 күн бұрын
03:46 So funny-pure slap-stick after all that effort! 😂 Great show, thanks for making and sharing. 👍
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Cheers!
@earlshaner4441
@earlshaner4441 20 күн бұрын
Good evening from Syracuse NY USA brother and thank you for sharing your adventures and information
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Cheers!
@truckerallikatuk
@truckerallikatuk 20 күн бұрын
The other knapsack option is that he took the knapsack with him, and took it off before adopting the shooting position. Then, post shot, he grabs it and departs, stage left.
@ftargr
@ftargr 20 күн бұрын
try both or neither at your discretion
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
All kinds of variables for sure!
@e-rodbiggins2112
@e-rodbiggins2112 20 күн бұрын
23:11
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Haha!
@e-rodbiggins2112
@e-rodbiggins2112 13 күн бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders I thought I was crazy for a sec lol. Watched your stuff for years keep it up friend!
@lukewolsey
@lukewolsey 20 күн бұрын
Rob, have you tried this loading technique - Bite! Pour! Spit! Tap! Aim! You should be able to get three rounds a minute off in any weather like that.
@JohnyG29
@JohnyG29 20 күн бұрын
That only works in rubbish TV shows.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Oh God,.... no.....
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 20 күн бұрын
Awesome, thank you for sharing!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Cheers!
@andyedwards9222
@andyedwards9222 20 күн бұрын
Once again another fantastically informative video. High technical standards and perseverance.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@robertmalmgren4640
@robertmalmgren4640 19 күн бұрын
Happy to see another video from you. Rumors were that Pedersoli was making a Baker, haven’t seen one or a prototype yet.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Apparently it is on its way...
@jesseusgrantcanales
@jesseusgrantcanales 18 күн бұрын
11:20 THIS got me good! XD Sorry you were punished so much but you were a sport about it, and that description was a fitting one for anyone doing this type of shooting, educational and entertaining as ever Rob! Welcome back to YT after a, I can guess needed pause.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@Chalksbeehaviour
@Chalksbeehaviour 5 күн бұрын
I just went through and liked as many videos as I could. I've been watching for years and often forget to like the video . Thanks for the great content.I'll keep liking the videos from now on .God speed
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 4 күн бұрын
That is very kind. Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
@PunchCatcher
@PunchCatcher 14 күн бұрын
I appreciate the time and effort you put in to making this and I especially appreciate the willingness to dive into the "most historic shot of the 95th"
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Thank you. It was a fun project for sure!
@yt.602
@yt.602 13 күн бұрын
Fine analysis and practical demonstration as always and great kit turnout too, top stuff. Keep them coming your vids are always fascinating as well as fun.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 12 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@charlesratcliff2016
@charlesratcliff2016 11 сағат бұрын
What I find interesting is the foot rest shooting position is something sniper's use or some modern variation of it in competition or shooting.
@zacharyyoder9498
@zacharyyoder9498 16 күн бұрын
Fascinating! These are the first muzzleloading videos I've ever seen, but it does make me think that Plunkett's Shot may have been around 300 yards because some folks are just ridiculously good at what they do and it was a legendary shot. I do see how past 300 yards it starts to get quite fanciful. If Rob is in fact ridiculously good instead of just very good and is modestly not mentioning it, please correct me.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Welcome!
@FranciscoPreira
@FranciscoPreira 18 күн бұрын
We must aplaud you for this display of indefatigable work, great work indeed.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Thank you kindly.
@KrzemieniProch
@KrzemieniProch 20 күн бұрын
Your Baker Rifle series is the best flintlock series on YT. By the way, the supine position is much more comfortable and stable when you turn slightly to your right side. Best regards :)
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
All kinds of variables, for sure! Cheers!
@M.M.83-U
@M.M.83-U 17 күн бұрын
This is proper experimental archeology. You are a treasure. My two cents on Plunkett leaving his sack at the english line (he was moving toward the enemy after all) and reloading in a less akward position.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
As discussed...
@Afro408
@Afro408 20 күн бұрын
Love the new😉👌 chin whiskers Rob! And I takes me shako off to your dedication to the cause.
@BSJ-VT
@BSJ-VT 20 күн бұрын
Yeah. I noticed that too!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Hey! I was on a retreat with French cavalry on my tail!..... no time for ablutions, this man!
@nonamesplease6288
@nonamesplease6288 19 күн бұрын
Top notch video! I've done this in an ACW uniform dressed in all of my traps with an 1853 Enfield. (A park ranger said it was never done, and I had to prove him wrong) I was much younger, and it was a bear, although loading the Enfield was much easier than loading a Baker and I didn't have a 2 foot tall hat on my head. Props to you for putting yourself through all that strenuous effort for our benefit.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@RiflemanMoore
@RiflemanMoore 20 күн бұрын
Superb analysis, as ever.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Thank you Simon!
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 20 күн бұрын
Always great to see you.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@skipsmoyer4574
@skipsmoyer4574 20 күн бұрын
If not being fired at, thinking standing up to reload might have been used. Also a Baker rifle didn't get longer but humans have, not sure a few inches shorter rifleman would matter much.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Certainly, as discussed.
@steveww1507
@steveww1507 19 күн бұрын
awesome work Sir
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Thank you !
@princeoftonga
@princeoftonga 20 күн бұрын
Having read a few accounts of the action in question a few thoughts occur: 1. While rifleman Plunkett would have had his knapsack initially I personally believe he would’ve taken it off likely immediately before dashing out of line to attempt the shot. 2. Plunkett was a very experienced rifleman and shooting at up to 250 yards was likely within his capability, anything over that is exceedingly unlikely. 3. If a quick reload was necessary standing up was almost certainly how it was done. The fact that the follow-up shot was prominently mentioned kind of reads to me as saying that Plunkett made himself vulnerable by reloading then making a second shot.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Sure thing! Certainly not the 600 or 800 of internet babble!
@richardbass3325
@richardbass3325 17 күн бұрын
Another great video and excellent subject. Wouldn’t it be great to watch one of these guys in action. How quick could they load and fire. Thank you
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Cheers.
@edwardmartinez9835
@edwardmartinez9835 15 күн бұрын
I imagine the field expediency of ramming the paper cartridge home in its entirety with the open powder end down, may have happed more often than nought with experienced troops. The manual is often tossed out the window when bullets begin to fly. Great video!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
I have conducted numerous experiments in a three part series on Baker ammunition, if you are interested.
@-ZETA-
@-ZETA- 20 күн бұрын
23:11 Rob, would you like to explain yourself?
@frankl5963
@frankl5963 19 күн бұрын
23:11 "Feet" -Rob
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
No.
@danielquick7541
@danielquick7541 20 күн бұрын
Love your content.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Cheers!
@Paintchk218
@Paintchk218 20 күн бұрын
As Hagman said in Sharpe: Can't see the face...can't hit the heart.
@myparceltape1169
@myparceltape1169 19 күн бұрын
The horse might have had something to do with the man's demise.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Range is a deciding factor....
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 20 күн бұрын
Now I have got to the end. Three times…. I agree totally that Plunkett’s military contribution was doubling forwards well in front of his comrades lines. I note that native hunters in all survival hunting cultures get their necessary accuracy from getting close to the prey rather than routinely possessing exceptional accuracy from skill with their arm. I would suggest that Plunkett was a rather smaller man than yourself and, despite the privations of the retreat, probably rather more nimble and fit (no reflection upon your good self). I agree that he closed to about 200 yards and not more. Whilst the paper cartridge with ball was the norm in the army at the time he might have chosen to use the separate forced ball and patch to get the best accuracy? Lastly, and impossible to know, there may have been all sorts of temporary agricultural item affording some cover and maybe the opportunity to use a standing rest on them. Certainly, in his place, I would leave all possible kit behind if I expected to be chased back to my lines by very annoyed cavalry. Over 200 yards and definitely 300+yards a horse will catch a running man and Plunkett’s only protection of he were chased would be the fire of his comrades. That he was not chased suggests that.Colbert was in advance of his troops checking the ground they would have to face accompanied by perhaps only his aide. Even if he saw Plunkett he would have paid little attention to him under the circumstances. He might even have been content to have been fired at from the distance of the British troops to observe their positions from the smoke. Being hit at such ranges by small arms fire was the least of his worries. Thank you for all this Rob. BTW your TRS front sight is notably higher than the period one and certainly higher than my original. If you swapped it for another lower one the rear sights just might reach that extra 100 yards? It would be interesting to carry out an optimum exercise with 300 yard sights in minimum kit on level ground with forced ball as a final base line.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Lot's to speculate about, John, for sure. Cheers!
@Dadofett
@Dadofett 18 күн бұрын
Great video
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@vincetytler6175
@vincetytler6175 20 күн бұрын
That reloading evolution, I could feel your discomfort Great vid Rob
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Certainly a very real takeaway in this experiment....
@bettyeurovision9524
@bettyeurovision9524 20 күн бұрын
Thank you. Keep up the great work.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@dalemeyer8207
@dalemeyer8207 20 күн бұрын
Thanks 😎
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Most welcome.
@SteampunkGent
@SteampunkGent 19 күн бұрын
Been waiting for this!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Cheers!
@slowhand1198
@slowhand1198 18 күн бұрын
Typically exemplary. While numerous others have opined from the warmth and comfort of their studies, you are out there in accurate period gear with a root sticking in your back, craning your neck, and picking rogue paper bits off your rifle bullet for science. Bravo, sir.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
I try.
@slowhand1198
@slowhand1198 14 күн бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders And succeed.
@keithagn
@keithagn 20 күн бұрын
Great video, and very well presented. Thank you! Regards from the Left Coast of Canada formally known as British Columbia.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@bigdave7648
@bigdave7648 20 күн бұрын
Rob… what was that 23:10 ?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Haha!
@Frank-bc8gg
@Frank-bc8gg 20 күн бұрын
I'm shocked there isn't more information on the construction of the Baker cartridge and hope further research is done. Great video!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Me too!
@morgs456
@morgs456 20 күн бұрын
Nice vid rob
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@Bobbymaccys
@Bobbymaccys 17 күн бұрын
Swift and bold boys, swift and bold!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
👍
@kentr2424
@kentr2424 19 күн бұрын
Rob, do you know if it was usual for the riflemen to pile their kit before entering battle? I recall in one of the Sharpe films that the men piled their kit before forming up for the attack on the fortress. Of course, that's film and might not be historically accurate.....
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
As they were fighting a rearguard, naturally a very dynamic operation, piling or cacheing kit would have been a non-starter....
@colinarmstrong1892
@colinarmstrong1892 23 күн бұрын
Another excellent video. As to the question of the accuracy of the rifles, I have heard from several Baker rifle shooters that the replicas are not as accurate as the originals. Certainly looking at the example in the Birmingham proof house, the rifling seems different to the modern replicas. Have you had the opportunity to try an original to compare?
@ftargr
@ftargr 20 күн бұрын
have you?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
I have not fired an original Baker , no....
@ducthman4737
@ducthman4737 19 күн бұрын
👍 Will you come to Waterloo 2025? They say it will be a BIG one.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
I was there in 2015 as a spectator.... Maybe...
@ogilkes1
@ogilkes1 20 күн бұрын
Amazing stuff. If there was a VC to be awarded for heroic experimentation, you woukd have it!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Hahaha!
@longyx321
@longyx321 19 күн бұрын
Nice video...thanks...I'm forever fascinated by the napoleonic war period.... should a BP rifle and pistols in the past....
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Nice!
@UncleDansVintageVinyl
@UncleDansVintageVinyl 19 күн бұрын
Another great video. You really give us the sense of how great the shot was, even if it was made at 200 yards. In fairness to you, though, you haven't had the long experience that Plunkett would have had.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Cheers.
@ilfarmboy
@ilfarmboy 19 күн бұрын
you do some great challenges(much better than me )/doing these videos you find out what sort of shape you are in( I would be totally worn out after the first run)
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
A fun project, for sure.
@rynoclaassen4823
@rynoclaassen4823 20 күн бұрын
Hi Rob, great video as always. Would you suspect that your rifles rifling being a different type from the historical rifles might affect accuracy? Will the round and square bottom rifling make a difference? Greetings from South Africa
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
I doubt it... the spin being the most important aspect....
@tokinsloff312
@tokinsloff312 20 күн бұрын
It seems like the supine position would be greatly affected by the specific biomechanics of the individual shooter. In particular, the shorter average heights of the time would likely have resolved the issue of the feet extending past the muzzle.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Still, the foot in sling method is rubbish.... someone's, 'good idea'.....
@tokinsloff312
@tokinsloff312 14 күн бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders Have you tried wrapping it like you would with your arm? Probably not good for a quick getaway though.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
@@tokinsloff312 I have not... typically, the simpler the better...
@norwegianwiking
@norwegianwiking 19 күн бұрын
That first reload, now that's soldiering.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
It was all awful....... Haha!
@thomasbaagaard
@thomasbaagaard 22 күн бұрын
16:55 the danish 1855 marksmanship program include firing the smoothbore ex french M1822 at 250 Alen or 173 yards. It got fixed front and rear sights set for about 120 yards. The soldiers learned where to aim at that distance. Allowing them to fire at close order columns. And considering that the army fought a 3 year civil war in 1848-50 where the rebels had support of regular units from Prussia and a few other smaller German states the decision to spend time and money on this in the marksmanship program only makes sense if the war had shown the need for the men to know how to do this. So I would not be surprised if a experienced marksman did know where to aim with his rifle at 250 or 300 yards. Even when his sights did not have a setting for it. (I also know where to aim at 400m with my modern military rifle, even if the sights is set at 300m... some that admittedly require a much smaller adjustment.)
@ftargr
@ftargr 20 күн бұрын
wow
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Interesting!
@RandalUrsel
@RandalUrsel 20 күн бұрын
I think it’s unlikely that he would have tried that shot with his pack on as an experienced marksman. It creates too much tension in your neck and shoulders when holding your head up. I think if he kept it with him, it was on the ground. Theoretically, he could have reloaded kneeling. If it’s that hard to hit the horse at that range, a kneeling rifleman would be much safer. Very cool video, thanks so much for making the effort for us!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
That is open to debate... as this was not some sort of target practice.. it was a fluid and dynamic episode and troops would be required to move at a moments notice... It certainly is a point worthy of consideration of course.
@Amokhunter
@Amokhunter 5 күн бұрын
I learned about that in Sharpe's Rifles, that some of the boys in green were prone to re-cast their bullets and re-grind their powder to re-make their cartridges with supposedly better properties. Could those things also have contributed to a better shooting result?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 5 күн бұрын
Quite a work of fiction. Never seen it replicated in fact or period anecdotes. Be careful not to count Sharpe as history.... Rifle Powder was already much better quality than normal musket powder.
@Amokhunter
@Amokhunter 5 күн бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders Yeah, I know. You just have to watch the training sequence of Sharpe with the fictional South Essex Regiment to get the idea that Cornwell was writing more on the fictional than the historical side of matters but even then they sometimes stumble over some small factoid that contains a kernel of truth, if they did any further research.
@Rkolb2798
@Rkolb2798 20 күн бұрын
Just a thought , I’m thinking he probably ditched his pack with the lads to speed things up . Also I wonder if he stood up to reload Yes you are exposed to possible return fire but the difference in speed might have been advantageous .
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
May very well have, or not had it at all....
@BSJ-VT
@BSJ-VT 20 күн бұрын
I found that Sharpe is available on Amazon Prime, Britbox, in the US. Amusing tales of daring do...
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
There you are then!
@paulancill3872
@paulancill3872 14 күн бұрын
How much of the inaccuracy is down to the barrel and loading and how much to the lock? The time between the trigger pull and the main charge igniting is not inconsiderable and gives time for the aim to drift off? So would a baker ignited by a cap be more accurate at greater distances?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
There are numerous inherent disadvantages in a flintlock over percussion...
@paulancill3872
@paulancill3872 14 күн бұрын
Is the inaccuracy in the barrel or in the lock work? Would a baker with a cap ignition make for greater accuracy at longer range?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Yes, tests done in the 1830s showed that there was a distinct advantage in accuracy with percussion ignition.
@Chosenman44
@Chosenman44 20 күн бұрын
With regard the made cartridge. It was a single construction made up of parts. You had the cartridge paper, the into this would be put the powder charge, then the pre patched ball. In loading you would prime from the powder end, then you would put the cartridge powder end down the barrel allowing powder to fall into barrel, then push the rest of cartridge into barrel, them ram home. The ball was part of the cartridge and didn’t need to separated.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Lot's of experiments in that type of cartridge in the Baker ammunition series.
@CardinalBiggles01
@CardinalBiggles01 12 күн бұрын
Always loved the Plunkett story. Part of the charm is the ever increasing ranges at which the shot was "made". Makes me a little sad to come to terms with the fact it was probably "only" 200 yards. Still, damn fine shooting all the same under the circumstances. And he did bag a General
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 8 күн бұрын
Better the truth than internet babble! 😀
@ronrobertson59
@ronrobertson59 20 күн бұрын
I've seen a couple of Baker rifles but you are about the only one I've saw fire one in conditions it would have been used with honest results. I do have experience with the 54 cal Mississippi rife that is also a challenge to load period correct ammo in.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Cheers!
@dp8053
@dp8053 20 күн бұрын
Really drive home the point of breach loading cartridge being a game changer
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Sure thing!
@williamvorkosigan5151
@williamvorkosigan5151 20 күн бұрын
Complimentary comment for the algorithm. Great well thought out video as always.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@wolfganghuhn7747
@wolfganghuhn7747 17 күн бұрын
I did raise the frontsight to keep seeing the target
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
?
@wolfganghuhn7747
@wolfganghuhn7747 14 күн бұрын
@ elmer keith developed a method to still see the target. Instead of aiming with the aligned front and rear sight and loosing the target, you just elevate the frontsight, keith even painted some white lines on his SW revolver front sight for different ranges. Ok not sure if the baker sight is tall enough for that.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
@@wolfganghuhn7747 Ah,.. cheers.
@c3aloha
@c3aloha 2 күн бұрын
Things are really different when you’re 10-20 years younger and 20 pounds lighter. Flexibility, stamina, strength. I feel it more and more as I try to PT with the active duty troops. Great job trying to duplicate the action!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders Күн бұрын
Sure thing!
@MikeH-v8m
@MikeH-v8m 10 күн бұрын
I sent you an email several months ago from Whatcom Firearms…it had a file on British sniping in WW1. Did you get it?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 10 күн бұрын
Hi there… I had a look and did not see one…. I might have gone to the junk folder and just missed it. Sorry about that…. Sounds interesting!
@geebskerbal2771
@geebskerbal2771 12 күн бұрын
damn that gun sounds cool
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 8 күн бұрын
Cheers!
@ottovonbearsmark8876
@ottovonbearsmark8876 15 күн бұрын
“Do you believe in God Captain Sharpe?” “I believe in the Baker Rifle sir.”
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Haha!
@Cloudman572
@Cloudman572 20 күн бұрын
One question I have is of the 7 hits on target which are are from 5 prone and which from 5 supine? Does the prone have the best 5 grouping? Also agree that sitting or standing for the reload seems to be the only sensible way unless presenting a smaller target is absolutely required. One final thought, what about keeping his knapsack with him but removing it where he fired- assuming it is not difficult to put on/take off even if not in regimentally correct format?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
The second go around was more to see if I could hit the target with 'any' regularity, as opposed to shoot for any kind of 'group'....
@Cloudman572
@Cloudman572 14 күн бұрын
@@britishmuzzleloaders Thanks for the reply. Great video- i have always admired re-creational/experimental historians.
@mr_clean91
@mr_clean91 20 күн бұрын
I wonder if perhaps the supine position was more effective when used by the shorter average soldiers of the time?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Certainly worth considering, but that only addresses one aspect...
@jakegrube9477
@jakegrube9477 20 күн бұрын
Perhaps next time have a blanket or such behind the target to see where the misses went? Not sure if there would be a way to do it without contrasting the target more but its not exactly blending in with the white outline as is
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Sure... I can only carry and rig so much in the field.
@jakegrube9477
@jakegrube9477 14 күн бұрын
@britishmuzzleloaders understandable, just a suggestion
@drphillips8736
@drphillips8736 17 күн бұрын
someone can tell me where i can buy 95th rifles uniform and loadout please! i love it!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
There is a series on kit used on the channel if interested.
@drphillips8736
@drphillips8736 12 күн бұрын
@britishmuzzleloaders yes. Thank you do much
@lawpete556
@lawpete556 16 күн бұрын
NOW THAT IS A MUSTACHE !!!
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@longyx321
@longyx321 19 күн бұрын
Private, Plunkat was a lot younger than you 😅......Good effort.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Yes he was.
@trevorfitzgerald4996
@trevorfitzgerald4996 18 күн бұрын
Nothing that bites you on the ground there, by the looks.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Not often...
@spamhonx56
@spamhonx56 4 күн бұрын
When reading about this shot i did wonder how it might be possible. I wondered if the first shot, though fired by an expert marksman, might have been somewhat luck as well as skill. The follow-up shot could then be explained by several people clustering around the mortally wounded officer, and this small knot of people seeing if they could save him would provide target for the second shot, being a far larger target than a lone man. Plunkett may not have been aiming for the second man in particular.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 3 күн бұрын
So many unknowns….
@HermannCortez
@HermannCortez 13 күн бұрын
It turns out Rifleman Plunkett was a damn fine shot
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 12 күн бұрын
Apparently, he was!
@ianhorne2884
@ianhorne2884 19 күн бұрын
@12:05 is it my eyes or is hit number 2 slightly larger and elongated compared to the others??? It looks like what happens when I put 2 shots through almost the same hole with my .22 .... is it possible that's what happened here?
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Mmmmm,. I'd have to check the target again....
@ianhorne2884
@ianhorne2884 14 күн бұрын
@britishmuzzleloaders please let me know. I really enjoy the channel and all the hard work you put into bringing this stuff to life
@YerluvinunclePete
@YerluvinunclePete 20 күн бұрын
I still think loading on the ground would only be done under extreme circumstances.. Unless you're under effective fire, it would be better to get up and load quickly while maintaining situational awareness. Then lay back down to gain the advantage of stability. That just looks awkward, undignified and annoying.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Agreed.... it was/is a difficult evolution as discussed.
@ianknobloch9450
@ianknobloch9450 20 күн бұрын
Riviting video had to watch it twice
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Wonderful!
@averdadeestalafora.2578
@averdadeestalafora.2578 8 күн бұрын
Sera que o Brasil teve esse rifle Baker. Na guerra do Brasil vs paraquai acredito que tenha comprado alguns dos ingleses.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 8 күн бұрын
I believe you are correct!
@bouncingshot
@bouncingshot 20 күн бұрын
Surely shooting the reins would have caused the General to lose control of his horse and spontaneously combust!
@Zorglub1966
@Zorglub1966 20 күн бұрын
It happens only with american horses.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Haha!
@davidbrennan660
@davidbrennan660 20 күн бұрын
Did you blow your foot off in the thumb nail?😂
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Haha!
@brealistic3542
@brealistic3542 18 күн бұрын
I am very sure the troops would have practiced extensively shooting their Baker rifles. It was a standard thing.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
If you would like, there is a series on the shooting qualifications required in the 95th.
@theairsoftpro2014
@theairsoftpro2014 20 күн бұрын
Ye be thinkin' we wouldn't come to notice that slip in photos of a rather enthusiastic rifleman in the supine good sir? 23:11 Still a great video as always, and really your doing a good service to bringing the context; if abit with the lack of campaign fatigue of the day, to the weapons that did had their impact in wars from the past.
@juver890
@juver890 20 күн бұрын
The battle skirt needs to be a thing
@MrEKWesq
@MrEKWesq 20 күн бұрын
@@juver890 "Just fight according to your own style."
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Haha!
@ftargr
@ftargr 20 күн бұрын
thank you for this presentation. my only concern is for the men who heap praise on the idea of this type of effort while also being totally unwilling to execute it in the defense of their heritage
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Welcome!
@keithmoore5306
@keithmoore5306 20 күн бұрын
bad enough prone loading there but can you imagine doing it under fire??
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Ugh,......
@johnfisk811
@johnfisk811 20 күн бұрын
The value of experimental archeology…. I am 3:30 in and already confirmed in my opinion that Plunkett left his kit with his colleagues when he doubled forward and that he reloaded standing or kneeling before taking a prone or back firing position. Unless there was a handy field wall or similar to act as a rest. Now to continue.
@britishmuzzleloaders
@britishmuzzleloaders 14 күн бұрын
Lot's to unpack, for sure!
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