The 1932 murder that would become a Legend - Finding Mamie Thurman - Logan West Virginia

The murder that would become a Legend - Finding Mamie Thurman - Logan West Virginia
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[@leslieross8708]

$700 in 1932 would be over $15,000 today. They spent that much on her funeral but buried her in an unmarked grave? How strange!

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Yes it's odd

[@kerrydennison7947]

I just wonder off hand is there any record of who paid for the funeral procedures? Keeping in mine that's her husband was a cop that probably did not make that much money on a salary, and it is very odd that one of the principle players in this little scenario committed suicide,, just makes you wonder, reminds me of the case that Leo covered of the cheerleader that was presumably murdered by the person that was the head of the School board and highly politically connected and all of the evidence except for the poor girl's dress was destroyed when he was found presumably not guilty, makes you wonder........

[@rhondaking6433]

Please laugh any time. Don't listen to what some of these people say .. laughter is a Blessing! I am a smiling laughing person myself and it's what I've been known for since I was a kid. If someone told me not to laugh, well... I would have to laugh at that!!

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank you Rhonda! Some people just don't understand

[@ghostcityshelton9378]

@@thehillbillyfiles I LOVE to hear your laughing & injoying & having fun while making your videos !😁😃😄 Laughter is good for a person & for those who are around them. There are a ton of You Tube vids out there & if someone doesn't like hearing laughter & a person having fun well I say they're free to move on. They're also free to make their own 'videos'. That is my view on that, I'm sure I'm not alone thinking that way. If they don't like laughter they can watch some of my true ghost vids. I have tons of spooky ghost pics from Gettysburg to add, one day. 🤘👻💖

[@MeMe-nw9mq]

Leo…keep on laughing. Your laugh is contagious and makes me smile when I hear it.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Appreciate that!

[@beverlyyates2779]

Better to laugh than cry!! The world needs more cheer😁

[@judypierce7028]

WOW! I just absolutely loved this video. Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful piece of history. When I lived in Charleston, I heard about Mamie Thurman's murder and all of the theories about how she died, why, and the murderer. I immensely enjoyed the history. of Mamie Thurman's murder. Keep up the great work.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thanks so much 😊

[@judypierce7028]

Leo can laugh all he wants to as well as Heather.

[@carolyounce5810]

Yes it IS great mystery! My husband's daddy (ALSO from Logan) even gave me a little BOOK written on her! THANK YOU for this wonderful story & walk down memory lane!

[@melancholygirl840]

I'm so happy to be a member of your channel! I have learned so much on history from it! You guys are amazing! Plus you guys are just a amazing couple! Thank you!

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Your so uplifting and thank you 💝

[@brendashaw2035]

Since I subscribed to your channel, you have gained a lot more viewers. So happy for you. Thank you for the history lessons! Love you guys

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank you very much!

[@deniseackermann7116]

It is so sad to find abandoned Graveyards. Expecially when there are still family members in the area.

[@edielawrence97]

You're laughter is addictive 😂 ! One of the greatest things about ya'll ! Leo , when you giggle . It makes me giggle and I want to personally thank you for that . Thank you for taking us along on all your adventures . God bless yous 🙏 ❤️ .

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank you very much! Heather's maiden name was Lawrence, btw...

[@leeakers1018]

The cemetery records(map) should identify exactly where the two plots owned by the attorney are? She could've been buried under a different name since she didn't own either. Just my thoughts and I'm sure you already took that into consideration. You two do a lot of hard work but unraveling the mystery surely makes it all worth it. Awesome channel and very interesting content. Your subscribers will grow fast as people stumble across just one of your videos. Definitely my favorite of the several I am subscribed to.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank You

[@cherylverhelst8245]

Hummm, interesting! I’d say you found her grave. You two are awesome. I wasn’t expecting you to have this video out tonight, Heather you did a great job getting this edited.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thanks Cheryl!

[@oneGypsy]

Y'all are such a cute couple. All I can add is, that Mamie was a pretty little thing. She may have been naughty, but she didn't deserve being brutally murdered. Edit: dang.....!!! hubby could have at least put a few large rocks for markers. Sad thank you for the videos.

[@smullis7]

Your laughter tickles me…keep on keeping on! Sad to see the state of the cemetery. I grew up in the tri-state area (PA, OH, WV), so nice to find your channel on history around there.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thanks so much 😁

[@garuholstein7873]

Oh Yes, Raleigh County fan here! Just love what you two are doing with your channel! THEN this.. ya'll just busted The Mamie Thurman Case wide open! Wonderful hillbilly common sense at work. Can't wait to see what you will do next. Great Job!

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thanks so much!

[@tmgetts]

I love those churches too. You did a really good job showing the locations and telling her story.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank you so much!

[@LarsonsMom]

I recently found your channel and I love it. I have only been to Moundsville WV for a ghost hunt and I loved the area. Much appreciation and respect from Haverhill MA

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@sadielevens1144]

Loved this. Lots if hard work finding her. Thanks guys.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Our pleasure!

[@oddwad6290]

Excellent crime drama video. Bringing past to present with connecting all known dots to reveal a very familiar pattern with our species . Observation : large buildings require alot of capital to build . Architecture often reveals a lot more about a place and it's history . Thanks

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank you!

[@carolginther9996]

They tell you not to laugh??? I adore your laugh!!! Laughter is the best medicine. Keep laughing!!!!

[@thraciangrapes]

Thank you for these fabulous informative videos. I appreciate your work and efforts. 👏

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank you!

[@idiotsandwich4912]

I love how into this you are it’s amazing

[@kimberlyphillipssmith7956]

I love your laugh! It keeps me coming back. I was born in Wheeling but I'm in South Carolina now. I watch your videos almost daily in the winter. I'll soon resume my duties with the Daughter's of the American Revolution until fall.

[@maryputman3535]

Please don’t let these naysayers stop you from being jovial, Leo! I enjoy your lightheartedness.

[@davidwatson6209]

This is all Very interesting to me I have worked at the Monument shop in my home town for almost 30 years and have set many stones and done releveli g of old stones and still cut final dates for stones already installed in the cemeteries so watching your videos is very interesting to me especially the old murder victims or battles like the Hatfield and McCoy's ( I am David Watson from Salem Missouri ) keep up the good work not many people care enough to go check out these stories that are History that have been lost to time

[@MeMe-nw9mq]

Just discovered y’all’s channel a couple days ago. Really enjoying the videos here. I’ve heard of this case before on Mysterious WV., but y’all put in a few details that I either forgot or Sean didn’t include. As an aside, Mamie is pronounced May-me.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank you! I call her mamie because everyone I know calls her that, I don't know one person who calls her mayme in my part of WV. So it feels odd to me

[@MeMe-nw9mq]

No worries. I’m in Tennessee and have known a couple women who pronounce it as May-me. Probably just the difference in areas and the unique dialect you will hear depending on the part of the country you live in.

[@freddielong2275]

Great Story. Great job presenting it! Two thumbs up!

[@sharonmartinoff3210]

Great story. Thank you for sharing. Very effective detective work.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thanks for listening!

[@oldiesrock8836]

This is so cool, I've been by there many times but never went to the cemetery. I love what you guys do! And that's only about a 15 minutes drive for me, so I may take that picture. Ha! (keep the laughter going)

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thanks for watching! Yes please take the picture! 😆 It would make our day

[@cynthiacarter514]

Love the town’s quilt pattern side walks

[@triedntru8049]

New subscriber here!🙋‍♀️ Love your videos! Just came across your channel. I’m from Crawley Creek, and am in Logan a lot! I’ve been to 22 Mine Rd a lot also. I’ve done the car trick multiple times, and it works every time. You have to be in just the right spot. Some people say it’s just an illusion, but many say it’s the ghost of Mamie. I actually fell off a cliff up there back in 2012 and about killed my damned self. I’ve always said that Mamie pushed me.😬 Lol. Thank you for these cool videos y’all do, and for sharing the forgotten history of this awesome state! Kudos!😊 Edit: Also, yes they did do a play based on this story in the Chief Logan State Park Amphitheater a couple/few years ago. You can find articles about it in old Logan Banner papers.

[@ccurrywright]

This is interesting. Thank you for making this!

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@jasonrunyon2663]

I was hoping you all would do this story. My Dad worked at Hobet mine #7 up 22 mine road. He worked there for 32 years. I heard a lot of stories about her ghost.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Oh very neat! Would love to hear some

[@jasonrunyon2663]

@@thehillbillyfiles maybe next timeI come in for a visit we can meet up for lunch and I can share some with you. I was raised over in Delbarton. Not too far from you all.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

@@jasonrunyon2663 sounds good thanks

[@donhinchey9148]

Yep, rake and a pitchfork

[@sunspots6077]

Yep , Makes sense.....the way words sound and context gets confused sometimes .. in The 80s in WV a bunch of fisherman started aggravating their state representatives about the state stopping stocking streams and lakes with fish.......... Turns out they were misinterpreting the new ANTI-STALKING LEGISLATION they had heard about.

[@CottageCupcake]

😂

[@sandy-wvcolley6298]

Great job!!! Would be great if someone could do GPR at the site, exhuming could answer lots of questions.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

That's a great idea! Thank you for watching

[@bettyward8389]

I really enjoy your videos keep up the good work

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank you!!

[@rjay7019]

That's just sad to see that cemetery forgotten 😢

[@robinadkins8591]

You guys are great! I love your videos!

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank you so much!

[@cindysmith1162]

I love Leo's laugh..

[@mr.astrophysics9115]

Excellent story 👏

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank you! 🙂

[@m.kayewilliams2550]

Love your videos! I'm pretty sure you are correct that her name was pronounced May me, as Mamie was a common name in the 30s to 50s (like Mamie Eisenhower). Also, my mom smoked Lucky Strikes starting in the late 30s (in Tennessee and east Texas). In the early 1950s, she would send me on my bicycle to the store to buy her cigarettes (at age 9 with a note authorizing me to buy them if they asked - but no one ever blinked an eye when they sold them to me). They were 25 cents a pack then, and she would complain that they used to be 15 to 20 cents a pack. Unfortunately she passed at in her 60s as a result of hypertension, kidney failure and lung problems, likely a result of smoking (her sister who didn't smoke lived to 91). Seeing her addiction to this habit, my brother and I never smoked. I'm amazed now that people can afford to smoke.

[@simplyhere3893]

OMGoodness that laughter 😂! I really enjoy your content this is my second video on your channel so I’m subscribing and I guarantee you this channel will blow up this year! Maybe it’s the accent but your voice remind me of the “Hey Vern” commercials.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank you very much

[@Justice4547]

The city should clean that graveyard up, and give Mamie a headstone. I can’t believe a town would just let a graveyard be taken over by weeds and fallen trees. This is what people who are ordered to community service and inmates are for. Just clean it up and mow it once or twice a year.

[@stevedibiase728]

Also get welfare recipients out there we pay them enough vast majority healthier and stronger than me.

[@doreenarcher8543]

Just discovered your channel. I’m a subscriber. Really enjoy your videos.

[@juliemarie6197]

don't stop laughing in your videos; I love your laugh!!! Cracks me up

[@rogieru8796]

I keep laughing my friend I’m right there with you I love life !

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Exactly! Thank you 😊

[@jakerbennett9909]

Another Great Video 👍🏻

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@janepeters9480]

🎉🎉Yes...Of course the locals would refer to the structure as it says..The Steele Monument!!

[@kerrigarland7286]

Did you notice in the video at the time between 24:10 and 24:25, the camera pans ro rhe right, then back ro the left, and right after she says" he said where she was buried", there is a white cloud of smoke that appears across the top the screen- spooky 👻

[@michaelbragg6903]

I saw

[@janwarriner6554]

Cool research! Enjoyed!

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@jeannetaylor2217]

I TRULY BELIEVE you are both correct. How sad💕🙏🙏

[@annehorstman6071]

Awesome I tend to get ocd when doing genealogy stuff too

[@buffalochic1974]

Love you guys. Keep on laughing, and keep up the great work. This Yankee is watching from Western NY.

[@sandrahunter5749]

I remember hearing about a bus full of children on a school bus got hit by a train and children got killed. At the same railroad crossing, people heard about spirits of the children will push you vehicle. Some people didn't believe,until they put baby powders on the back of their vehicles and found hand prints through the baby powder. I don't remember where this story happened at.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Yes, I've heard that as well

[@margaretmtz7005]

San Antonio!

[@rodneybender6865]

Very good piece of investgative reporting. Former LEO/detective here. My surmise would be the husband or a jealous lover due to the savagery of the killing. Perhaps modern DNA would prove who the suspect is.

[@cladqueen8054]

Or find that metal marker from the funeral home great research!!

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Would love to find it

[@ElizabethBattle]

Metal detector!

[@Greywolfgrafix]

My maternal grandmother's maiden name was Steele.

[@hansomjunior5710]

My only complaint is I think you should laugh more, it’s wholesome.

[@ted70281]

Great Job!

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thanks!

[@kitdog100]

Very well summer. Great video.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank you!

[@pakedermsfavs9080]

Great video very 8nteresting

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thanks !

[@MarkGrago]

Boxing legend Jack Dempsey grew up in that town.

[@smooth50590]

Great Work

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank you so much 😀

[@Justice4547]

I think it was Harry Robertson’s wife. Never underestimate a woman who’s afraid she’s about to lose everything. I certainly don’t believe Mamie was the town trollop or that Clarence had an affair with her. I think Harry asked him say he was or accused him of being the one having the affair with her. Or maybe Harry killed her and had Clarence to help him discard of her body, which I doubt. Clarence would’ve cleaned the car thoroughly if that was the case, and so would’ve Harry. That’s why I think it was Harry’s wife. She wouldn’t have had time to clean the car thoroughly without being caught because husbands worked and families only owned 1 car back then. But we’ll never know.

[@Gotcha64]

❤❤❤ love you adventures

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thanks so much

[@lovescoffee9780]

Enjoyed

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thanks 😊

[@corrinaroach8242]

I just love your videos! I'm just like Heather...I love history, genealogy and research. I know where the Robertsons, and Mamie's husband Jack are buried if you'd like to visit.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Absolutely! Message me on trail 10 tours on Facebook please!

[@mariallen3995]

Did you look for the little metal marker?

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Yes, it's been gone ages

[@johnreed8336]

Good detective work !

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thanks!

[@wwt219]

A very interesting story. I looked up on line and read it. Hmm, I lean toward the hubby doing the crime due to jealous rage. Two shots in the head and throat cut, hmm easy to plant evidence near landlords home. Yep, I think you found the grace. A very good video and enjoyed it. Well done!

[@wwt219]

grave

[@cathymcglasson6947]

I think your on to something especially with the laughing I love it and she was most likely there .

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thanks so much 😊

[@cathymcglasson6947]

@@thehillbillyfiles Your welcome

[@donhinchey9148]

Never stop laughing

[@thehillbillyfiles]

I couldn't if I tried 🤣

[@debbiehall7016]

Tell us! Tell us!

[@georgejarvis92]

Did u find the metal marker from the Funeral Home??

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Nope

[@janetsides901]

Good Video.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thanks!

[@lorimorris6520]

I think her husband offed her.he was a cop he knew how to do her in . probably why there's no headstone ,he didn't care

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Very possible

[@Houndini]

Mammy Thurman ghost is true. I seen her in early 80's in between good jobs hauling coal up 22 Holden mt. about 4am. During May right at prom time. I thought some mean boy put her out. I couldn't stop due to going bad U-Joint to check on her. I yelled on CB guy behind me to check on that poor girl if she was OK? Got to the tipple & he told me the story while waiting to dump. I never heard of that story before then. I didn't work there long I got called back old job.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Very interesting! Thanks for sharing

[@ElizabethBattle]

So.......that white mist that passes by at 24:24 is an effect you all put in, right? Right?? 😨

[@jacquelineduque8025]

I saw that toooo

[@ElizabethBattle]

@@jacquelineduque8025 Creeeeepy!!!

[@thehillbillyfiles]

It isn't a effect

[@ElizabethBattle]

@@thehillbillyfiles Duuuuuuuuuuuude

[@stevenpowers546]

What is the "go to" book to learn about the Hatfield - McCoy feud? I want to learn more after watching several of your videos.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

I've never read a book on them. I'm not sure who to recommend. Maybe look at reviews on some books about them.

[@debbierichards8182]

Don't stop laughing, it's you & authentic.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank you 🙏

[@jstewart3517]

Sad everyone deserves to be remembered RIP lady u deserved more nice red ride inbackground

[@thehillbillyfiles]

I agree she deserves better

[@jacquelineduque8025]

Do any of u smoke? Caz either a mist or smoke goes by at 24:24

[@Justice4547]

Hot Cup, is that where a man was recently arrested for underage dating?

[@michaelhaiden6718]

Heather do me a favor turn on closed captioning

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Ill try

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Is it on now?

[@michaelhaiden6718]

@@thehillbillyfiles on the on I just saw trail riding thanks

[@missrita1826]

Wow! Never heard of this, thank you. Heather, U R so beautiful, a living doll baby and Leo, you have a great laugh.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Oh thank you! Your so sweet 💓

[@dean828]

She was born in Louisville, Kentucky in 1900... the city I grew up in and live near still... it would be interesting to know which area of town it was... but the wiki page just says "Louisville".. (like most large cities there are various named municipalities in it... Louisville has areas named Anchorage, St. Matthews, Shively, Prospect, Germantown, Jeffersontown, Smoketown, Butchertown, Middletown, Portland... etc... some nicer, some ruffer...) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamie_Thurman

[@michaelbedinger4121]

I had to watch this video twice. There is nothing wrong with you two laughing, ignore those clowns 🤡 who say otherwise. I love how you found mamie's grave, I believe she is there as well, or pretty close. This is another tragic story. 😥 when she said she was having affairs with some prominent citizens, she pretty much signed her own death warrant. Interesting about her husband dying in a asylum later. Heather, you did an outstanding job researching this story, thank you. Perhaps one day, someone out of the goodness of his/her heart ❤️ will put a simple marker on Mamie's grave. Thank you very much again, Leo and Heather, for another great story, and video. Have a great day.

[@davidchisham]

Great video

[@thehillbillyfiles]

We call her mammy here not MAYME, Make your own video and call her what you like.

[@rdh53]

@@mzdkkeller I'd walk a million miles for one of her smiles. . .

[@heyokaempath5802]

Good! It's YOU TWO and your channel and that's what we come here to watch, listen and learn!!

[@heyokaempath5802]

@@mzdkkeller next someone will call them racist. FFS! Get over it, turn off the volume, put on closed captioning and CHILL!!

[@heyokaempath5802]

@@rdh53 LOL!

[@thehillbillyfiles]

@@heyokaempath5802 thank you!

[@cindyb8775]

I love ya'all. I appreciate so much all your efforts to put out videos for us. As I said before my health is not good enough to go to these places I have always wanted to go and I go through you all. And being from WV, I feel like you are my "home boys". I love your narration because your voice is home to me. My people. My West Virginia. Ok, Ok, enough for the sappiness, I do appreciate you so much

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thanks so much, it means a lot to us! Keeps us motivated

[@julieshepherd5989]

Loved this story, RIP Mamie and every one that's buried there. I wish Mamie had a grave marker. 😊, have a great week.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank you. You too.

[@julieshepherd5989]

😊

[@overtheGarage-ue8lh]

Great video guys. Few things as sad as an unmarked grave. Even a fieldstone is better than nothing.

[@deerslayer9point]

I’ve done it many times. Put your car in neutral just before that bridge and you will go backwards uphill!

[@WhispersFromTheDark]

Good job!!! So happy you found her. You should take some silk flowers and leave them on her grave area. I really enjoyed this one as well. You guys are rock stars!!! Stay safe!

[@leandragilmour2806]

Thank you for the history lesson! I’m from Canada so this is new for me.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Our pleasure!

[@kimberleyannedemong5621]

Good research. You have me convinced that she's buried there such a shame a beautiful young woman murdered like that. But as I always told my kids & now my little grandsons bad choices have bad ends. She definitely was playing with fire. She's lucky she didn't end up pregnant. Poor Clarence. How convenient to blame the black man. Do you have ideas about who really did kill her? Your car going backwards up that hill - too creepy & spooky for me. I can guarantee you I will NEVER go to that road. The thought of ghosts scare the damn daylights out of me. I sure as hell do not want to meet one. You are braver people than I am Thanks for a very interesting video.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank you. You made our evening.

[@tessaducek5601]

I watch Mysterious WV. Love Sean and his wife. But mainly i think WV is such a beautiful state. I enjoy the scenery. This story is facinating and the icing is the visuals. 😉🌹

[@heyokaempath5802]

My late mom's best friend was called Alberta Bell, from Logan WV. Listening to her stories as a kid of 10 or so and being a writer myself, I've often thought about writing a fictional book based on all those wonderful stories she told. Have any if you watched the channel MYSTERIOUS WV? Sean McCracken did a video on this case, and this video here just adds that personal touch. Thank you!!

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Im familiar with Sean, thanks so much, Im glad you enjoyed it some =)

[@debbierichards8182]

You should write down those stories. I should as well. True stories are stranger than fiction and way crazier

[@Justice4547]

Not fictional. The older generations stories are historical, not fictional. In college, I was taught in Western Civ class that a true story is when 2 people give an identical account of the same even, that is considered to be an historical fact, the truth… These stories are taught in college history books as historical facts. So, no difference if you ask me.

[@Justice4547]

Folklore maybe, but not fictional ❤️

[@tessaducek5601]

😅 stymie those pronounciation bandits! 👍

[@edwardstroko4665]

U guys are awesome!!! It looks like your subscribers have really grown lately!! I love it!!!😎🇺🇸

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thank you Edward!

[@nestpeeper]

You said the gravedigger said her grave was marked with the metal funeral home marker. Maybe someone could metal detect the area and find that marker?

[@angelaedwards5124]

I LOVE how tickled Leo was to show the Steele Monument!!! The SHOCK factor was to cool!!!!!! Good job guys!!!!!

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Thanks 🙏

[@kathleenwhitley7114]

I came across one of your shows and liked it so much I am looking forward to the next one. I think the husband did it, crime of passion with the over kill. It was a small town, so he knew. But in those days, she would have been a wanton woman and ask for it. The husband would have been viewed as the victim being a respectable lawman out patrolling crime while his very loose and disrespecting wife was patrolling men.

[@thehillbillyfiles]

Very possible