The 2 Types of Programmers

[@CodingWithLewis]

Where would you be on this sliding scale? 🤔

[@rusticmouse]

I'd definitly be more on the result side, because as a student you don't have much time to optimize your code. Once it's working it stays mostly untouched.

[@Equalisys]

@@rusticmouse defenitely: if it works, don't touch it.

[@miomip]

I'm on the craft-base side. I've used half a year on understanding something before I started working just to get the most optimal program, but I hate agile and think it's a waste of time, so many of the concepts associated with it is just not used.

[@siteantipas6837]

I am a Result-Based programmer. Just ship 🚢 it

[@cody_codes_youtube]

First 3-4 years I was craft, but then used those skills to be result for the rest of my career. The craft skills allow you dive deep when you need to

[@CodingWithLewis]

At the end of the day, we have to just say screw it and ship it

[@TGhost74]

> Be me > Be a result based programmer > Complete stage 1 @2:12 in a week > Complete stage 2 in 5 months > Begin stage 3 > Site gets DOS'ed on the first day, didnt spend enough time on security. All has failed > Start again. JavaScript programming in a nutshell

[@AZisk]

wow. nice production

[@frogery]

i wish i was more results based, but i get so caught up in doing things "right" and overanalyzing that i never complete my projects.

[@neos_hackerspace]

In my opinion, craft programmers win :) Craft driven programmers can also be a result driven programmer, but not the other way around, because most craft driven programmers have much more skills and knowledge than the result based programmers and as a craft programmer you can always just switch to result based and use existing tools to build a product quickly. If you know how to implement your own database or programming language, you can always use an existing one and even better so, as you have more understanding of the inner mechanics. If you only glued packages together for years, as result driven programmer, you simply do not have the skills to really build something from the ground up. Sure it might not be a problem for a specific job or project, but we talk about a general comparison here. The downside of craft driven programmers is, that you need more time - building your own things and learning takes much longer than learning how to use existing tools.

[@SteveEngebretsen]

"rust is craft focused while python is production focused" Now I know why I don' t like python. 30 years of embedded C and C++ including OO. On the other hand I learned early on there is no such thing as 'beautiful code', just code that generates the correct behavior. Professional software engineers focus on readability and maintainability because you come back to the code months, or weeks, later and say, "Who wrote that? Oh. I did. What does it do?"

[@tdrg_]

I start with the result-based, then I go crafter, and in the end my project never ships anyway because I either realise I’m wasting my time on a useless product or I just lose interest

[@realgoatzy]

I am definitely result based, because i'm willing to make my code absolute dogpoop just to get the result I want 😂

[@CodingWithLewis]

Me too

[@tsunami870]

Just a crappy programmer

[@realgoatzy]

@@tsunami870 ??

[@TheCommunistRabbit]

@@tsunami870 every programmer is a crappy programmer

[@RanCham727]

​@@tsunami870 you probably can't even code a hello world app in html

[@hedwig7s]

Not exactly sure what I am but I have a habit of spewing shit then iterating over and over until I get something good

[@ged9925]

I'd prefer to be craft-based, but deadlines and job requirements force me to be result-based.

[@sakibmansuri9651]

result based programming is for me; it lets you implement the things that you have never seen before, so it sorts of help you challenge your critical thinking area of your brain.

[@studiohonzik]

i love this videos, keep going!

[@CodingWithLewis]

Glad you like it!

[@cody_codes_youtube]

Immediately saw prime on the result end and I would have put him as a craft!

[@CodingWithLewis]

content creators have to go on one end!

[@akuoko_konadu]

0:09 Yo putting Prime on the result side of the spectrum is a crime😂

[@Tayoky]

me : create game so i create my own game engine in c only unsing the clib and opengl defenitely craft

[@allancorp_official]

Sometimes both just it according to the project i am working on

[@ratstam5428]

12 seconds 0 views, bro fell off

[@CodingWithLewis]

Deleting my channel

[@akuoko_konadu]

@@CodingWithLewis😂

[@zapz]

Don't do it, i will watch 4000 more time

[@ratstam5428]

@@CodingWithLewis nahh I'm watching every vid, really loving the effort and hoping you reach more people than ever

[@Mr.BinarySniper]

always craft based. 😕

[@SWEbigbox]

i think im in the middle, i want my code to be good anf at the same time just want the result.

[@Чумак-щ8и]

Hello Lewis!

[@CodingWithLewis]

👋👋👋

[@Чумак-щ8и]

@@CodingWithLewis Your videos are amazing!

[@cocoasulphur]

What about craft vs result-based video editors...? 🤔

[@CodingWithLewis]

wrong channel broski

[@cocoasulphur]

@@CodingWithLewis 💀

[@yalnisinfo]

I would just fall out of one side of the edge 😂

[@logvoid]

As an student, i consider myself somewhat of an hobbyist so i'm only focused on the quality of the code. I'm on the extreme far end of the craft side. Just thinking about the overhead of Python code or JS frameworks gives me a feeling of repulsion and disgust regardless of how rational that feeling actually is.

[@boenrobot]

I don't think craft vs result can be split across language lines, as you can write shitty code and good code in any language. Sure, some languages enable you to write shittier code easier (any dynamically typed language...), making them more "result oriented", but you can be that in a "craft oriented" language too (tokio, serde, rocket, sqlx... boom, Rust web server with json, let's go!!!).

[@gregsar1321]

I would definetely be craft oriented, when i first started using python i was very frustrated by how i didnt understand how things worked under the hood. Result based is more usefull when you have deadlines and stuff. But learning the computer magic in every finest detail is what gets me hooked up on a project that challenges to learn new stuff and problem solve my way into finishing it.

[@ffpg2003]

I think i'm middle but more craft.

[@gungun974]

I’m maybe in the philosophy of your results developer but I more see the world through the simplicity and necessity. For example, I’m creating an audio player for all platforms and before I was embedding mpv but mpv was hard to perfectly tune. So I scrap it for c++ and directly use libav/ffmpeg for decoding my files in the most efficient way but it’s was not the goal to be perfectly optimized but more the necessity that mpv couldn’t fulfilled me. Every thing is trade off

[@umikaliprivate]

I personally like to finish the project fast, and then optimize. I enjoy both the result, but optimization is really cool.

[@CodingWithLewis]

I 100% feel ya. That's why it's always so hard to saw which one you are.

[@VaidikKhurana]

yea, i was on the second side. but i think i'm going to the 1st one now

[@paca3107]

I love learning CS so I am a craft programmer, but if I had to make a real project for money I would pick up the easiest and the fastest way. Imo Good programmers are on the middle of scale

[@saturnYTper]

I am definitely on the craft side of programming. I don't really care for the frontend that much when I write code and I mostly focus on the functionality.

[@Jukebox300Minecraft]

I haven't done any coding professionally yet, but shouldn't I be given specifications for how reliable, efficient, and readable a program should be? All I care is that these specifications are met given that they're appropriately defined.

[@ltecheroffical]

Here is where I fit on this scale in normalized [0, 1], 0 being craft based and 1 being result based, i'd fit at 0.35.

[@LarryRobinsonintothefog]

I was more of a Craft programmer (or leaned that way), but guess it takes a mixture of both.

[@trstensvold]

Think I lean Craft, but see speed useful in prototyping and such.

[@ahmadhassan90590]

I think it depend on project on which you are working that which type of programmer you become for that project.

[@MZMS1510]

I feel like literally on the middle :/

[@mr_minepiesek]

For me it depends, for example if I'm working on my own apps I first write a prototype of the feature I want to add and then rewrite and optimize it, and if I doing an exercise at school I do it as fast as possible, but since my classmates just have started programming, I have a lot of free time, so while waiting for them to finish I optimize my code.

[@withpaulex8645]

What else if not result base programmer

[@rcookman]

Not heard that one before but I was thinking something similar recently. So yeah.

[@tristarnoah5560]

am team code crafters

[@Mr.BinarySniper]

Congratulation. another debate has just started.

[@gtleshow]

The email reliability debate had me nodding so hard because... relatable. It's great to see both approaches appreciated for their strengths rather than pitted against each other. Awesome content, Lewis!

[@deniswastaken]

surely I belong to 2nd type but my personality is like the 1st one. 😵‍💫

[@VaidikKhurana]

sudo apt install coder-starter-kit

[@JStudios6118]

The thumbnail is frighteningly accurate 🙃

[@ankasingh5272]

Damn

[@greendsnow]

Definitely "result based". I'm not an engineer but a dev, a wrapper dev. I wrap. I don't contribute to open source either, I am not capable of reading and understanding somebody's 100mb thoughts. I listen to books. I use AI, extensively. But I totally respect and love the library maintainer type of programmers. I'm like a forgetful fish 🐠 🐟 🐟 next to them.

[@SfinX0o]

Never clicked so fast

[@CodingWithLewis]

You are fast but the bots got you beat