The $3,144,689.31 Salvage of Shadwell

[@kevincook1018]

Another interesting story I was not aware of. I spent a couple of days in 1010 on ex-Shadwell testing effect of large lithium battery fires. It was a valuable resource for the Navy firefighting efforts.

[@waterlinestories]

Must have been interesting👍🏻

[@kevincook1018]

@@waterlinestories In 2008 we had a major battery fire on the ASDS (Advanced Seal Dedlivery System). A $300M 60 ft long mini submarine that piggybacks on SSNs. The 1.8 MW lithium battery totally destroyed the vehicle and would have killed the crew if it were manned at the time (it was shore side being charged). So. we at NAVSEA quickly launched a focused risk reduction program for high density energy storage on ships. Hey - that might make a good future topic for you!

[@waterlinestories]

@kevincook1018 that does sound interesting. I’ll have to go and do some research.

[@Lettuce-and-Tomatoes]

You’re 1,014+ years old? That’s totally awesome!!! 💪🏻🍻

[@kevincook1018]

@@Lettuce-and-Tomatoes That's not the only typo! The ASDS battery size was 1.8 MWhr not 1.8 MW. I used the wrong units.

[@slartybarfastb3648]

$3 Million sounds pretty cheap for that level of effort and specialized equipment needed.

[@workingguy-OU812]

Would have been cheaper to scrap them earlier.

[@pretzelhunt]

It's the $144,689.31 (+ tax) that'll getcha.

[@DrHerby86]

@@pretzelhunt you do realize whose paying this right?

[@pretzelhunt]

@@DrHerby86 No one in the world wastes money as efficiently as the US military

[@pretzelhunt]

@@DrHerby86 Dr Whose?

[@LemonCamel]

I think your videos are so good for several reasons, but most of all, I feel that it's your pace. You're always giving information, not random unnecessary crap

[@waterlinestories]

Thanks. I just try and fill in the gaps so you can understand what we’re looking at.

[@Lakridza67]

Another fantastic video from this channel. You are a born narrator! Absolutely love your content👏🏻🥇

[@waterlinestories]

@Lakridza67 😀👍🏻 thanks for that

[@allenhuff9205]

I can’t help but be distracted by Shawell being represented by a 3D model of USS Arlington, LPD 24.

[@GringoBaggins]

i knowwww!!!! my OCD wouldn't allow that lol!!!

[@Feline_Frenzy53]

Another excellent story, sir. I love the pace and competency of your presentations. Fascinating to learn about the rescue of Shadwell and Maine. Thank you !

[@waterlinestories]

👍🏻😀

[@andywomack3414]

Three million well spent. The research being done on these vessels could save lives, and the experience gained by those working on the salvage makes the effort something of a training exercise.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

If you believe that number is accurate, I've got a bridge to sell you. That may be what they told Congress, but rest assured the total cost was vastly more than that.

[@mangamaster03]

This was really cool. I was a student on the ex-Shadwell starting in 2008. I had heard it was refloated, but never new this level of detail.

[@ktktktktktktkt]

Shadwell by name, Shad very well by reputation?

[@waterlinestories]

🤣

[@cruisinguy6024]

Yeah baby!

[@rodfrancis267]

Niiiiice!

[@Brock_Landers]

Fook-Mi? Fook-Yu!

[@duncandmcgrath6290]

Grrroovy! Yeah!

[@ScottMillirem]

Quick note: Some of the photos you used are of the current State of Maine ship and not the former State of Maine which was broken up in 2011.

[@johnmoore8599]

Nice presentation! Yeah, too many acronyms.

[@waterlinestories]

WDYM 🤣

[@kaptainkaos1202]

In the picture at time 1:20 is Building 43 at NRL in DC. Picture is taken from more than likely the pier on the W side of Building 43. My office for over twenty years was just offscreen to the left in Building 1 as part of the Marine Physics Branch. My colleagues would have sailed aboard her and the other ship, the Hayes. My career couldn’t get any better than working at NRL. It was truly my dream job.

[@stevehill4615]

Excellent presentation, the technical aspects of the salvage operation was very interesting, it sounded like the costs were worthwhile as they got a further 10 years of service from the Shadwell and I'm assuming that the earthworks nescessary fo the original salvage were useful in allowing the ship to be scrapped in situ rather than the risks involved in trying to tow it away.

[@waterlinestories]

👌🏻

[@user-tb3pu5um9t]

Thank you , that was once again an interesting story. I can imagine how much work goes into making one of these videos. Well done. Brisbane AU

[@waterlinestories]

😀👌🏻 thanks

[@mstrogme]

Excellent (no BS) presentation, as usual.

[@waterlinestories]

😂

[@Madeleinewith3Es]

The upside of being up early to work on the weekend, getting here an hour after it dropped! (My folks' families are from the Gulf and we had family get their houses flooded in the hurricane, but I'd never heard this story!)

[@waterlinestories]

😂

[@dvassie]

I was stationed on the Shadwell right out of boot camp in 1967. Shadwell was freshly recommissioned at that time. On our first cruise across the Atlantic both shafts froze up due to the wrong bearings being installed. We were toed to Malta and put into dry dock for repairs. On our second Med Cruise the following year we again found ourselves in Malta dry dock for repairs. This time was due to a collision with our flag ship the USS Chilton. I was stationed on the the USS Shadwell until she was decommissioned just after our third cruise to the med.

[@toomanyhobbies2011]

Half the photos are not of either vessel.

[@andrewpinner3181]

Thanks for this well explained & obviously well researched video (as they all are) !

[@GrooveQuest]

WooHoo, a new Waterline Stories!!!

[@waterlinestories]

👍🏻

[@firstlast1047]

Reminds me of the grounding of the APL Panama, Xmas Eve 2005, south of the port of Ensenada, Mexico. I was crew of a support vessel during the salvage. I believe it was March before it was refloated, with no structural damage

[@paddym-k9792]

Some of these AI images are difficult to decipher...

[@laraharrison-stow3403]

4:30 i've stared at this image for a while now and I'm pretty certain the dude on the left just has an insane chin, there's no other explanation

[@randomuser778]

Hideki Hapsburg. Illegitimate great great great grandson and 57th in line for the throne.

[@skeetrix5577]

that is, indeed, quite the chin

[@Melanie16040]

Most awesome story! Thank you for sharing it with us.

[@waterlinestories]

👍🏻

[@mooiwiele]

Uitstekende verslaggewing! Groete (van 'n ou Vlotie in Kanada)! Excellent reporting! Greetings from an old SA Navy veteran in Canada.

[@jbrobertson6052]

This was really interesting and I enjoyed watching it so once again thanks for the upload

[@waterlinestories]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@em2attic]

I laughed when you mentioned the acronyms because its so true lol! And damn it can be so confusing at times when they throw so many of them at you lol.

[@boboala1]

Interesting video! And good news: the Navy has commissioned a new research ship in my honor and respecting my aging condition of incontinence...she's called the USS Shard-Well. ;-)

[@davidyates748]

It's the 31 cents that's the real killer.

[@ibubezi7685]

Fully convinced now they did a "perfect" accounting job! 😉

[@colincampbell767]

@@ibubezi7685 I bet that the accounting expenses are a serious chunk of the costs. The DOD is forced to operate under FAS *Federal Accounting Standards) instead of GAAP (Generally-Accepted Accounting Practices - which is a global standard). Every single person with an accounting degreed was trained in GAAP. They have to be re-trained to operate under FAS. Unser FAS all paperwork must be perfect. If you enter a date month, day, year instead of day, month year - under FAS rules the funds are 'not properly accounted for' under FAS. (Keep this in mind when you hear people talk about trillions of dollars that are 'not properly accounted for.')

[@deuteronimus750]

Thank you for covering this.

[@waterlinestories]

👍🏻

[@chriscarlcm]

I was in the Navy for 21 years, and I promise the Navy does love their acronyms. You're right about that!

[@LostAncients]

I was a Seabee for 18.5, definitely a deep love for acronyms in our community.

[@maj.d.sasterhikes9884]

@@LostAncients That would be, T.N.L.T.A.

[@werdragon1]

Great video. The wrong State of Maine is shown 4 times though.

[@giggiddy]

So what..

[@stephenbritton9297]

@@giggiddy Two different ships.. the vessel in question was T/V SoM 3 (ex UPSHUR). The one pictured several times is T/V SoM 4 (ex TANNER). I am a plank owner of the latter.

[@giggiddy]

@@stephenbritton9297 Oh ok. Gotcha. Cheers!

[@ianmcmahon8589]

The barge with crane pictured at 10:20 is AMC 160 in Honolulu Harbor. Former Army barge built in 1942.

[@Jøeneux]

As always, a very cool story! I live in SEA and I know about some neat stuff out this way if you are ever looking for video topics mate.

[@waterlinestories]

Always looking for interesting topics. What you got in mind?

[@Jøeneux]

@@waterlinestories the Concrete Battleship of Manila Bay, also known as Fort Drum, also known as El Fraile Island. I was able to get a local to take me out to it on his fishing boat and poke around a bit. The entire thing is well and truly destroyed at this point in time. But it is really an interesting spot on the map, given the reason for its existence, the fact that the old world war 1 era battleship guns are still present, and possibly most interesting, it is a big mystery to most people around here. Granted the education system isn't the best, but this concrete monstrosity sitting out at the entrance of the bay is like some sort of Colossus of Rhodes myth. A lot of locals think it is cursed (or maybe they just told me that to get more money out of me to take me out to it). I didn't shoot any film about it, but nobody wants to hear me talk about a thing anyway. Your content is amazing, and while others have covered Fort Drum, I would absolutely LOVE to hear what your take on it is. There are a lot of interesting shipwrecks out here, but I am far too inexperienced (and probably also old) to try to dive on even the shallow ones. Loved your video about the search for the Musashi.

[@Jøeneux]

@@waterlinestories I left a response for you, but I guess its gone. I suggested the fort drum of Manila bay, included a personal story about it, but since I talked about local superstitions maybe KZbin deleted it because someone might get offended?

[@waterlinestories]

Just seen this. Your response is there. I’ve recently added fort drum to the list.

[@Jøeneux]

@@waterlinestories I am very excited to see what you think, thank you for considering my topic.

[@MR2Davjohn]

Katrina's wind speed was 175mph. Where the authors reached the idea of 58mph should never been accepted. They should have known better.

[@fraudieYT]

That’s the cheapest salvage of that type EVER , and they saved a couple of historic boats … well until

[@at_3831]

I have worked for Don Jon Marine as a deckhand, engineer, mate and Capt doing dredge as well as salvage on multiple projects since 2000

[@waterlinestories]

Amazing. I bet you have a few stories

[@johnmurray9526]

Everytime he says shagwell i can't stop thinking of Austin Powers fims lol 😂😂

[@JackRussell021]

It amuses me that the photos you have of NRL are of the lab in Washington DC.

[@stephenbritton9297]

Why do you show several pictures of T/V STATE OF MAINE 3 (Ex USNS TANNER - blue hull/white superstructure) instead of the correct T/V STATE OF MANE 2 (Ex USNS UPSHUR - gray hull/white superstructure, aka "the great gray ghost of the Maine coast)? Two very different vessels.

[@maj.d.sasterhikes9884]

My Dad served aboard the Shadwell from March 1955 to October 1956.

[@XX-qd6ke]

She was cut up and disposed of in place, back in 2017, due to her botton being rotted out and being found to being 60% grounded during her survey.

[@Acesmcnugget]

Shadwell by name, Shad-very-well by reputation.

[@weird1600]

Perhaps it is time to maintain the hull of the test equipment!

[@anja2716]

I like having these very informative and factual Waterline stories in my memory bank. However; I thought it was $3,144,689 and 32 cents.😂

[@waterlinestories]

🤣

[@LindenMartin]

A wonderfully refreshing Waterline Story, but this time without a body count. Looking forward to many more stories to come.

[@waterlinestories]

Yes. Its good to see there are stories from the waterline that dont have a body.

[@jimstratford4577]

Another great and detailed story. How do you get all of your information. Does the Navy release a document with a description of the job? I was a salvage diver in the private sector. We would only share our salvage plan with the marine surveyor from the insurance company and the coast guard. We liked to think that our salvage plan was the best and didn’t want to share any details with competing salvage companies.

[@josephpadula2283]

My first ship was the sister to the Maine the APA Barret renamed the Empire State V . Originally was a passenger /cargo ship but the Navy took it from the commercial company during the Korean War . Transported dependents until jets took over from ships . TS Empire State V, was a troop ship of the US Navy and training vessel of the United States Maritime Service. She was laid down as the SS President Jackson, a cargo / passenger liner and finished as a troop transport, the USNS Barrett (T-AP-196).[1]

[@bluebelle8823]

I think that is military in general, never met an acronym they didn't like. Even it makes less sense. This is fascinating to listen to and as has been said by others that is a pretty low price tag given the equipment and knowledge involved.

[@waterlinestories]

😀

[@rainerpitsch6347]

Great Video!

[@MarijnRoorda]

I'm always left wondering, how did they get to 31 cents on the total price of over 3.1 million? Sure, the navy probably have a acronym for the bean counters, but how did they get to that very exact figure?

[@waterlinestories]

🤣 it was the staples.

[@HomeMadeBoards]

I have built switchboards for shopping malls over $3M. Raising a ship for that seems reasonable for my uneducated sea mind. Would have to pay me $ seven figures to even get close to sharks.

[@Adz082]

Felicity. Felicity Shadwell, come on now 😂

[@ryanpoyer4582]

Not to be nitpicking, but why use a San Antonio class ship in the animations?

[@briansmith-l1q]

glad someone came up with the 31 cents

[@scania357]

Very interesting video, thank you.

[@waterlinestories]

👍🏻

[@chipps1066]

Fascinating story,much was learned by many on ship salvage procedure.

[@GoAway-vj4vj]

Awesome video, awesome channel.

[@waterlinestories]

👍🏻 thanks

[@alanzelanski7288]

Why use a drawing of a modern class instead of a drawing of the actual ship? There are plenty of drawings of the WWII class.

[@KB6YNO]

Just a comment from a retired USCG Chief Petty Officer (CPO). Yes, we like acronyms too! USCG smallboats have their length noted in the hull number. Anything less that 65' is considered a boat. Anything larger is a cutter. Be that as it may, even with cutters up to 95' in length, the length is noted in the hull number. So, one of the boats we saw in this video was a 45' boat instead of 33'. So, it was 45' or 13.716M. The second boat was 25' instead of 23'. So, 7.62M versus 7M. That is all.

[@ScoutSniper3124]

My favorite military acronym, which I came up with myself BTW is "FLUSH": "Friggin' Loser Use the Shiny Handle".

[@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing]

the special forces side of 2rep foreign legion use to be called C.R.A.P, now called GCP

[@SubVet84]

6:50 We only have 3 levels on our subs…the term “several” implies more!…maybe he meant they have several different submarine layouts?

[@richardsuggs8108]

The Navy actually completed a task and didn’t spend too much money!

[@Mashedpotata]

When was the state of maines superstructure overhauled

[@ChrisHathcock-f1u]

The ship uss shedwell has since been scrapped (2017), the other ship state of Maine i think is still in service.

[@Tod_oMal]

The video starts at 09:49

[@riverbender9898]

I really enjoy your videos. Thank you.

[@loobielou6965]

Yaaas! Happy Saturday Waterliners 💙

[@waterlinestories]

😀👍🏻

[@chairrider2462]

It was a real missed opportunity to not feature the Shagwell in the original Austin Powers movie!

[@dcviper985]

I was very confused seeing a San Antonio class LPD in the thumbnail.

[@chezsnailez]

Keep imagining Austin Powers's yacht _Shagwell_

[@benmac940]

Wouldn't it of been cheaper just to dismantle it at the time rather than refloat it just to dismantle it in situ 10 years later

[@billsargent3407]

I swear he is talking about dredging Shagwell... ...

[@DaveSCameron]

Finances are phenomenal!!

[@rodfrancis267]

Great video, as always. No BS. And actually pretty good Govt value, for a change. But...at 16m01s Is the USN, USCG and assorted contractors using a vessel that says Made in China ??

[@HurdyGurdy-q5k]

I love your videos, particularly for the spectacular level of research. It is a little disappointing to see “AI” generated imagery here. It would feel more polished and, in alignment with your channel’s main appeal, more journalistically professional to have real images, even they’re stock or tenuously related.

[@vincentcastor5978]

They should have just left Shadwell on the bank.

[@jimbobisme1]

Disappointing to see the use of the San Antonio class Amphibious Transport Dock class ship used in computer renderings.

[@scottfortune9016]

All of that money spent, only to scrap her. What a waste of money. I wonder how much was charged to scrap her.

[@brucefye3778]

Since they naturally flowed North to the opposite side of the bay, why didn't they just spend a little bit more to build a mooring where they were? The next storm that comes there will do the same to whatevers there then. Adapting to new scenarios is apparently still not in the procedures. Experienced Naval / Maritime engineering speaking.

[@fuzzybutkus8970]

I was just gonna comment “Navy sure loves Acro………Crap” Great minds think alike in this case. “Oh throw in another “Told ya navy loved acronyms” that hurt.

[@MoBoostZa]

16m24s looks like False bay? :D

[@richardcline1337]

Such a sad fate. All that money and effort going in to refloat her only to have to scrap her later. That was ultimately going to be her fate but it was just delayed for a brief period. Were the Naval Diving and Salvage Training School (NDSTC) people from Panama City used in this effort?

[@bhaebe6671]

the Shadwell was built without using the metric system. Why not continue using inches, feet and pounds when posting in the US?

[@EricDKaufman]

Why does she even need to be refloated if she is comfortably on the sand bank and just used for testing fires? A question from someone who the NRL paid for his Ph.D. in microbial corrosion

[@auricom8472]

Nice vid.

[@waterlinestories]

Thanks 👌🏻

[@Weed8Gone]

FYI and speaking of acronyms, MDSU is pronounced "mud soo."

[@colonthree]

Should have made the collider convex instead.

[@secretagent5954]

could use some pancakes right now

[@waterlinestories]

mmmmmm Pancakes 🥞

[@slartybarfastb3648]

I want bacon. I want bacon really, really badly.

[@burtbacarach5034]

Had sourdough pancakes this morning.

[@kenurquhart2061]

3 Million cheap suggest you take a look at the number of zeros it makes a difference.

[@robertcairney2955]

31 cents 😂

[@Muffin_Masher]

Surprisingly cheap for the amount of work. But then it was all basically for nothing it seems, both ships were soon scrapped :(

[@HadenHartz]

why are you showing a San Antonio class amphibious war ship? LIKE WHAT?

[@StanleytheCat-v8z]

12:56 Oh. Lovely.

[@stevek5416]

Winds speeds of 58 MPH? Gusts to 90 MPH? That's hardly a strong tropical storm. Add a hundred to both those numbers.

[@giannidcenzo]

Alligators.

[@burtbacarach5034]

yep

[@ThisisForTheTV]

ROLL TIDE!!!

[@knotkool1]

me and my boys could have done that salvage for only 3'142'431 dollars.

[@stonykark]

Cool story well told, but you don’t need to use AI images to do it.

[@ILikePi31415926535]

Interesting story But I can't say I like the use of AI images when recounting a real life event

[@waterlinestories]

Ive seen a number of comments about the use of AI images. There are no AI images in this video. We have used 3d animation to help show what we are discussing but that is not AI. Im just not sure what we are talking about when referring to AI.

[@bonjower]

Please just say "$3 million." The current title sounds desperate and disreputable. I nearly down voted on reflex until i saw the channel name.