The 3 Most Frustrating Reasons Not to Use Webflow in 2023 | Experienced Agency Owner

I used to be an advocate for the platform Webflow, but over the past few months, I've had a shift in mindset. There are a few key factors that influenced this decision. In this video, I'll cover the 3 most frustrating parts about Webflow, in my opinion!
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[@usamaiftikhar934]

Yes I agree Dylan webflow hosting prices is big issue and Good Luck for your Wordpress and Shopify journey

[@dylandavino]

Yeah Webflow is pricy, and thanks I'll definitely keep you updated on the Wordpress journey!

[@cesarb3431]

I've been binging all of your videos, I'm interested in starting a web design agency. What do you recommend instead of Webflow? Or for a beginner? Should I start with Webflow and pivot to something else or disregard it entirely?

[@arturkre5793]

learn basic HTML + CSS and some JS

[@dylandavino]

I wouldn't start with Webflow after knowing what I now know. I'd say take the time to understand Wordpress if possible, or maybe Squarespace if you want something a bit easier

[@BoffinNZ]

As someone who spent years working with Wordpress and Shopify before moving to Webflow, there’s absolutely no way I would return (unless I have a specific need or client requirement). I would argue that all of your frustrations are due to a lack of understanding both in best practices and purpose.

[@dylandavino]

Thanks for the insight! I'm open to ideas about how the client can better use the editor or designer

[@BoffinNZ]

@@dylandavino if a website is built well, there’s very little a client should need or want to use the editor for, they really should only use it for adding, removing or updating CMS items… plus maybe editing on page text. The editor is pretty robust giving clients just the right amount of editing capabilities but removing the ability that they can screw anything up with the build.

[@tezeroman]

ohh this online information jungle.. Some say don't touch wordpress anymore and go full on Webflow and you say opposite. The most important for the new ones is to just start but not so easy while having so opposite advice from more experienced ones.

[@dylandavino]

Very true! If you’re new to web design, just get started. One thing to consider is that even if you choose Webflow, you will have to learn how to use Wordpress. This is because it’s the industry standard, and many of the sites you migrate will be Wordpress. Food for thought!

[@tezeroman]

@@dylandavino Thank you. Although I have already tried both a little and now I am more towards Webflow I did not think that both might be indeed many times so much related while dealing with migration cases.

[@BoffinNZ]

Wordpress isn’t an industry standard because it’s good, you must understand how Wordpress was born and the reason it got to where it did, sure Webflow will never have the same number of websites built but that’s mostly due to it coming out 10 years later, Webflow has risen very quickly and I would say it’s pretty quickly becoming a industry standard for businesses who are looking for a more professional build over drag and drop or bloated Wordpress.

[@dylandavino]

Yes, Webflow will definitely grow over the coming years. We will likely go back to it once they fix some of the major issues and more apps are developed.

[@Ryan-kr4bq]

Your thoughts on Framer for a fully functioning sales and supply integrated eCom site? Thanks Dylan.

[@dylandavino]

I haven't tried Framer yet, although a lot of ppl have been talking ab it!

[@martinkling3266]

Arent the clients able to use the CMS to edit the website?

[@dylandavino]

Yeah with the editor they can add or remove CMS items, like blogs, team members, etc. But I find that this usually isn't enough capability for the client, and plus the editor is pretty buggy

[@crooker2]

You don't want to give the client carte-Blanche to destroy their website. You need to explain to them why they can't just do anything they want to their website. (they don't know what they're doing) However, they can gain access to the designer now... But I would NEVER offer the client the ability to self destruct their website. If they want designer access to their site... They should just build their own site. What do they need you for?

[@dylandavino]

Good point! I try to make that point, but not every client agrees.. I see where they're coming from, they want to be able to work with what we provide them..

[@crooker2]

​@@dylandavinoagreed. But you have to describe to them that they aren't web designers. I mean... If they buy a vehicle, they don't expect to be able to service it themselves do they? Not if they aren't specifically mechanics. It's exactly the same thing. The web is a machine and you have to know how to use it. Sure you can put in gasoline or even change the oil. But if you want to turbo charge it, or replace an alternator... You generally need to go to a professional or risk doing it wrong and breaking something. They need to understand that a website is a complex tool built to help them do what they NEED to do. Anything else, they should rely on a professional.

[@hitbox7422]

The CMS‘s cons are not true. You can generate entire websites dynamically with the option of binding containers to visibility switches, I’ve managed to build a client website that he can completely control himself. He can add new pages, remove pages, bind newly created pages to module button links, feed them with new content ect. I’ve even build a JavaScript system that allows him to control animations with custom variables that the CMS fetches from collections to implement conditions into loops that change the appearance of certain things, even a filter and management system for timed events fully customizable (background color, font, font size ect). The limitation of Webflow is your own horizon, the more deep you get into this topic, the more complex your development becomes.

[@iamnoone3588]

the most annoying gripe for me about webflow is you feel like youre fighting the tool instead of it working for you. Oh you want paging and filtering? nope cant have that have to get finsweet 🤣. Oh youre animations are complicated and not just a basic fade in/out? go get gsap and so on. In the end youll have a frankenstein of an app that wont even be maintainable by you in a few weeks of not working on it, goodluck giving it to your non technical client expecting him to maintain or do something with your “code”

[@dylandavino]

LITERALLY!