The 5 OP Tactics You Need To Know For Predecessor

[@brandonmeans6628]

Nice to see Pred content outside of the usual “post daily gameplay /highlight videos” it’s oversaturated. People love tips, tricks and guides & with this kind of editing - I think you may have found your niche.

[@swypht]

Hey Brandon I appreciate this comment, we want to provide exactly what you’re saying!! It feels like an up hill battle sometimes because it takes so much time to create quality ( from scripting what to say, visual assets to help people picture the content both gameplay and overlays, time it takes to edit) and it’s hard to keep up with channels that pump out videos daily (timing scheduling of releases). When they oversaturate the search library they indirectly hide this kind of content from smaller channels. But with the help of people like you, likes - comments - shares - we are slowly gathering steam and hopefully we can start to rise to the front of the line when posting!!! It’s all about serving the community and providing good and relevant information!!!

[@swypht]

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[@professorkhaos0266]

One little advanced tip for playing something like countess/kalari/assassin mid: getting the wave to clash on your side of the map, which forces the opposing mid to overstep and causing either an easier kill/easier gank/more poke.

[@swypht]

Yes , only hitting red minions will in most lanes prolong the positioning on your side ( timing this with ur junglers movements is something else to think about

[@professorkhaos0266]

@@swypht oh for sure! I remember all the small little tricks from paragon...I mean predecessor 😂

[@swypht]

@@professorkhaos0266 join the discord my friend -> I’d love to pick your brain on some stuff!!!

[@professorkhaos0266]

@@swypht big bet 😁

[@mythiccmouse6214]

Id say dusk if your getting blue just go for their camps immidiately after killing blue unless of course you see an opprotunity. But dawn almost 90% of the time are gonna gank offlane so use that to your advantage and sneak their exp away from them. Blue with the bonus damage to minions helps a long way

[@swypht]

I ward my blue at the 55sec mark so i can plan vertical juggling

[@bigboungstudio]

How to show the HUD about camera on the top left corner ? I can't seem to find the way. Do I need 3rd party software ?

[@swypht]

So currently they don’t have customization regarding hud at the moment

[@aliquidgaming1068]

Hopefully this doesnt come across as disrespectful, but i knew a few of these. Mainly cause i played paragon and play a ton of this game. My favorite tactic as a jungler is grabbing red buff and trying to knab an early kill in the lane

[@swypht]

Your not being disrespectful at all thanks for commenting- each tactic had varying level of notoriety, we don’t know what people know or don’t know and decided to include varying levels of difficulty. let me ask you - what level are you after a full clear in the jungle? Information like this for instance has different level and use than immediately ganking after red buff. What would you do after a full clear ?

[@rodney3297]

Don't leave your adc early if he's bad because he'll die in the 2v1

[@amedkit]

Great video, and all advanced tactics that almost no one talks about but needs to be said. Well done! And please make more.

[@middiff349]

I appreciate the feedback, Thank You for the Support, we are going to keep cranking out content. Try to get people as much information as we can.

[@requiem9167]

These seem like minor efficiency, but if each role is using one. It becomes so strong

[@swypht]

The little things matter and your right -> the more tactics people apply the same time the better chance you get the outcome you want.

[@nickdavid1846]

I think where a lot of people struggle with predecessor, or at least where i struggle is the game is slower than smite. And that is confusing sometimes in jungle for me.

[@swypht]

So I reached out to a masters smite guy - “as a masters smite player and a "masters" pred player in comp/high lvl its not much slower at all early. in average lvl play it is slower in lane because of havign to CS properly and manage wave state but high lvl play rotations happen a lot” idk if this helps but the more I think bout ur statement your gonna get a diffrent feeling when it comes to pred just on map size / shape / design, verticality /y axis game play, I’d need more context to eat ur saying to have any real insight to help.

[@nickdavid1846]

@swypht I've only just started. Coming from someone who's only moba has been smite, coming to predecessor feels very slow. I'm enjoying its fun wish the match making was a little better, it's just getting used to being able to be max level by 23 min.

[@swypht]

@@nickdavid1846 your saying your not use to not being max level by min 23.

[@nickdavid1846]

@swypht no I'm used to that in smite. In pred it feels like you need minimum like 28min, but it could just me being new. I've been consistently getting around level 14 15 at 23 min Ignore the questionable math

[@Little_Tree_Butt]

Nice I didn’t know your channel ! I’m glad I found it and will send your videos to some of my friends :) I’m excited to see some more advanced technics or analysis !

[@swypht]

Thanks for doing that!!!!

[@Supergusy2000]

last tip got me thinking why i never did that before LOL

[@swypht]

Hell yeah Zach!!!! Now you know, worst case scenario if your the jungler and you run him back to tower swipe a camp in the enemy blue side jungle and call it a mission well done

[@user-xw9bb8or3u]

Just adding a comment to get this vid noticed 🎉

[@swypht]

YOOOOOO - SAVAGE comment - Thank You Kind User your the freaking man

[@Invidious_Gaming]

Great stuff! I'm proud of you man and what a great video!

[@swypht]

appreciate that!!!

[@SharkZxD]

Great video! Thanks for the tips! What do you think of trying to steel secure the enemy redbuff as the midlaner at 1.43

[@middiff349]

I’m game for anything starting at level 1 especially cheesy tactics like this. But I also believe in high probability plays. You need atleast 3-5 players for that invade strat or it becomes a game of chance and giving up level 2 priority in midlane can be a death sentence. So long as your team mates are willing to help and you have the cc chain to both kill the jungler and take that buff I think it’s worth.

[@swypht]

Depends on the jungler! Recruit a little help and it’s a great strat.

[@quantumsedg3]

Great video and tips, thanks for the info! In your opinion, which support is best for the roaming ( or desync) tactic you mentioned?

[@swypht]

Depends - I think the more aggressive champions with crowd control like Dekker or Steel but both have unique challenges when roaming, but any support champ should be able to support to some extent in the mid lane depending on there given character. i know that's a terrible answer, probably easier to say every champion can do a different job (dekker can start long range harassment, steel can guard buffs, narbash can heal midlane so they can stay in lane, ward hot spots, etc...)

[@quantumsedg3]

​@@swyphtawesome, thank you for replying! Can't wait to try this in future games 😄

[@dnasty9673]

Why can’t people just start blue then go for a gank?

[@swypht]

Red Buff is what gives you enough damage level 2 kill so quickly Red buff: has Dot damage and slow on basic attacks (including cleave) Blue buff: Mana regen, ability haste, and extra ability damage to minions/monsters So blue buff would give a caster a better clear for the jungle but interns of aiding in the gank not so much, it makes it very difficult to actually secure the kill because it’s not aiding in damage or slow.

[@kogasoldier9379]

Is this game any different than paragon?

[@swypht]

It’s pretty darn close but before they did the activate me card stuff, since it’s been so long since paragon was around it be hard to tell the difference if I’m honest.

[@sjakkoo]

Great videos!

[@swypht]

Appreciate it sj

[@brendonconkel3063]

Why does the solo gank only work on Dawn side?

[@swypht]

Because that’s the only time Jungler is on the same side as Solo Laner

[@brendonconkel3063]

@@swypht oh duh I don't know why that didn't click for me. It's weird that the jungle isn't symmetrical with red and blue at the same lanes for dawn and dusk

[@swypht]

@@brendonconkel3063 yeah there’s like a 3-4% win disparity between both sides, but Dawn side wins man, if you have coms it’s an easy “air quote” level one to pull off

[@moneyd1316]

Do you stream ? And what’s the links to twitch or KZbin

[@swypht]

There are links in the description for ways to get interact with us.

[@swypht]

In the description we have some links for discord and twitch

[@BeatdownGG]

Asked a question and you deleted the comment. kinda sus. Guess that answers my question.

[@swypht]

I was trying to reply and it error out, I’ll leave my answer underneath

[@swypht]

So I try to create all of our video content in house from the stream and practice tool, but do to time constraints and lack of opportunity in some lanes we supplement video from everywhere and anywhere. We make sure that the video content we do get from the community has zero faces and zero sound so that it doesn’t detract away from the concepts or ideas being presented. The clip you timestamped was a pretty awesome timing play on both the camp and river camp on the odd minute. He is a very well known jungler and if you can guess the streamer I’ll heart the answer

[@swypht]

Doesn’t help I was at dinner (Texas Roadhouse on 2% when trying to reply) hope you can forgive the misunderstanding but I’m glad you remessaged, low key was trying to look your name up via search but it didn’t come up, appreciate the comment!!!

[@BeatdownGG]

@@swypht Yeah. Thats good and all. I just ask because its good etiquette to ask/credit etc. I meant no hostilities with my initial comment.

[@swypht]

@@BeatdownGG The Sus comment had some heat on it bro i was like wait wait wait don't kill the channel before it can help people, I'm over here trying to in good faith reply to everyone and i'm over here fat fingering everything on my damn iphone, As far as etiquette goes If it was a crazy big play that was implying alot of stuff I completely would have reached out, but because it was more filler camp killing it felt unnecessary. If the original camp killer messaged me id throw their name in the description no problem, but in reality I'm like Anyone's clips are fair game If they have zero branding in / on the game footage. No Harm No Foul.

[@Zurn187]

On noes not the lvl2 cheese that fail most of the time if you ward proprely and the cheeser get kill at the blue buff (since all he do is cheese) when you,jg and mid collapse on him and he get behind in xp/farm the rest of the game 😂 OFFLANE Ward the stair at 1min10 else lets the wave push toward you and stay in xp/aoe gold range the cs diff dosent matter if you dont fall for the lvl2 cheese when on weak side in offlane Learn how to ward and last hit under tower and your jungler full clear lvl4 gank is coming At least you said how to not die to it at the end ❤ but didnt talk about the ward in stair :)

[@swypht]

There’s only so much I guy can say in a 3min video lol 😂 1.) bait him into a stupid fight if the guys not falling for it 2.)the jungler should chase him to tower and verticle jungle by stealing 3’s and wrap behind for a second attempt ( as offlaner I also take the ward killer trinket to ensure the gank can happen and switch it out first back ) :) Should be standing on stairs before running to lane !!!

[@paulsowerby8863]

Yeah 2 minutes let’s let the carry go for gold on his on to be freely 2v1’d lose the buff and die in the process 😂

[@swypht]

I laughed so hard at this comment, Supports aren’t baby sitters, you don’t have to watch every minion die or tank gold buff for 45min. Finding opportunities in moments of relative safety that you’ve created to go and influence the map doesn’t mean abandon your carry like Frodo abandoned the shire. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I Hope I didn’t just create a wave of potato supports that abandon Carry’s

[@brandonmeans6628]

Haha ngl this tip is lowkey wild 😂

[@paulsowerby8863]

@@swypht each to their own, I believe this is a bad tip, support doesn’t abandon the carry in the first 10 minutes especially against good players, it will result in 2 things, your carry will get stomped, enemy team will always take gold, you leave him vulnerable to a 3v1 if the jungle notices you left and ganks accordingly, the enemy duo will slow push lane and prevent your carry from getting farm, the support will lose xp from rotating too much and fall behind, especially if you fail to make any impact on your rotate, a good jungler and mid lane will control river buffs, theirs absolute no need for your support to challenge river buff, and the only reason this tip works is if you are indeed playing against inexperienced bad players

[@swypht]

@@paulsowerby8863 so I need to maybe elaborate on something because it seems youve twisted something , (I didn’t say anything about doing anything at 2min). Operating in good faith - I clearly state finding opportunities - which means there’s player discretion on when these opportunities can be taken and not always will they be available, I clearly state relative safety that implies moments where your carry is strong enough to push waves and kill buffs without you present and when relevant threats are mitigated - whether that’s killing enemy carry or the enemy has teleported home and your carry plans to teleport home after pushing a wave. I also state you have to RESYNC meaning you can’t be away from your carry for more than the time it takes to him to push and teleport. Be back before the time his safety dissolves. Your carry should be able to play without you gain a level advantage from solo farming. You don’t lose a lot of experience because your in a lane it’s just not duo, by getting buffs, setting up ganks, helping with objectives your supporting the team not just the carry. This is an advanced tactic that requires common sense some coordination and pinging your ass off to pull off, I know it works and can be pulled off because I do it every match including competitive. There are limitations but you have to be smart enough to navigate them.

[@swypht]

@@paulsowerby8863 roaming support strategy has been a staple in MOBA’s from League to Smite to DOTA and is an advanced tactic you should read into.

[@bluemonsster]

Wow are you a master ?

[@swypht]

I appreciate you commenting on the video and helping video algorithm, yes we are master/grandmaster players, nice example of a level 2 blue, ( I should have shown you blinking into the tower ).

[@justinbean971]

Ranked isn't in the game yet. Anyone calling themselves grand masters or any other sort of rank are just full of themselves. Ranked is coming this month tho, so prepare and learn your items

[@swypht]

@@justinbean971 Justin your right Ranked isn’t out yet, but selling accomplishments short like holding a 70+ percent win rate over hundreds of games for months on end seems dismissive. Leveraging these facts as a means to provide quality information while building confidence with our viewer base is just a means of empowering the community and helping players get better. We ain’t worried about ranked.

[@stanfordminecollc3235]

⁠​⁠@@justinbean971They are definitely Grandmaster/Master, but you are correct about the new rank system. But I’d be willing to say that blue and swypht will be the same ranked position they are now so buckle up for them to “do it again.”

[@Kwambomb23]

OP TACTICS 😂😂😂 AKA basic moba gameplay and rotations

[@earthworm2590]

I was thinking the same thing he's making out like old paragon players do not know how to play the game the youtuber is so desperate for subs 😅

[@swypht]

Kwam you say they are Basic but most if not all the community has never played a MOBA or there only reference is Paragon which is a failed moba that didn’t adopt hardly any mainstream moba tactics. There are thousands of players who have no idea to count enemy abilities on cooldowns , fighting when you have one minion exp left to level up in the middle of the fight, how to freeze waves, how to properly time anything because they didn’t know the river camps are on every odd minute, the list goes on and on. Then There are thousands of people who know a lot of concepts but still don’t execute them- get into a game and see how many times a player pings a rotation for objectives but still don’t get one. 99% of the player base supports don’t roam. Most Teams Force objectives instead of farming, most solo laner’s wonder why they have to burn there blink or die in the first 2min of the game, most mid laner’s get poked out of lane and don’t know why, most carrys AFK farm instead of planning exp advantages. Your an outlier / unicorn in this new moba and should be having a lot of success, if these concepts are not new to you but if your not having success it’s because the community doesn’t know what you know.

[@Kwambomb23]

@@swypht fair enough cant argue with you there

[@swypht]

@@earthworm2590 bruh my channel had 119 subs for almost 5 years - if i was doing this for subs i would have quit a long time ago.

[@earthworm2590]

@swypht sorry don't know why your kids were on my recommendations Lol been doing it for long time yet low subs maybe you shouldn't 🤔 point out the obvious In paragon and telling people how to play the game 😅 like telling what a jungle should do also so you know you have random team mates which don't go to plan unless you are in a party then yea your tactics work even then they don't sorry this game you will not get a winning streak with randoms Just utter trash 🗑 go cry don't care

[@mrsantanabmoregamer2148]

This is BASIC Gameplay is predecessor players this bad !!!

[@swypht]

Mr Santana a lot of the player base is Ps5 and Xbox with Zero MOBA Experience. Imagine Call Of Duty players trying to play League. Not bad , I’d say just lack of awareness. These concepts have been around LEAGUE of Legends since 2007 but console players or even first MOBA players have had no reason to understand this stuff or have someone they trust to share them. Roaming support strat is being questioned as we speak and said to not work in our comment section although it’s tried and tested for years by Pro MOBA scene for a decade.

[@mrsantanabmoregamer2148]

@@swypht 100% it makes me sad

[@swypht]

@@mrsantanabmoregamer2148 well that’s why we are making content -> to help bridge the gap!!! Appreciate the comment