The 5th Revision of the DualSense Has Arrived | BDM-050 vs 040 Comparison | PS5 Controller Versions

[@HowToX]

Here is the previous video where I teardown and compare the first four versions: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g166g2V3o9hkqdE

[@ctjk1982]

SN# is next to the made in china. 2nd row.

[@milkman2705]

@@ctjk1982 yes I was just about to text the same

[@HowToX]

The serial number is in different spots on my various controllers. Just scan the QR code.

[@johzho123]

have they iterated on the dpad? right now I'm getting peeved modifying and fine tuning mine lol I have a cosmic red Gen2

[@HowToX]

​@JamJam0189Not sure about the anniversary ones, but if someone has posted a clear picture of the back, you can scan the QR code from the picture.

[@rcarter1690]

Regularly modifying the controller makes diy repair a big hassle and most people will end up just buying a new controller.

[@Chr15Payne]

Well I don't feel DIY repairs on these controllers are worth the effort to begin with. Too complex now, too many small parts.

[@inendlesspain4724]

I can confirm, I have three broken DualShock 4 controllers, all different revisions, and I can't make one functional controller out of all of them.

[@Renzo_Benzo]

and thats exactly what they want you to do

[@MV-ri7zu]

​@@Chr15Paynecomplex? Lol I think DIY is just not for you.

[@pledger6197]

At the same time it seems that they made it easier and cheaper to repair. 5:10 Shows that trigger potentiometers are now easily removable. 5:47 Shows that now instead of two separate pieces (Metal rod and plastic hinge) it's now single plastic part, so it should be cheaper to produce and easier to replace) For single person doing repair on his gamepad it sure can be more troublesome, because now you need to source proper parts and know how to distinguish them. But for warranty repairs / repair services it will certainly save quite a lot in the long run. And to be 100% honest, it's not so hard to source proper parts if you know there is a difference. I repair 3DS and even now, when they are reached EOL it's still possible to source all kinds of replacements and sellers make a lot of instructions / warnings about which parts do you need and how can you find out if they are certainly the ones you require.

[@mattbrookbank]

While your theory that they keep revising the triggers because they get alot of warranty requests is possible... moving from 1 metal and one plastic piece to 1 plastic piece sounds like a huge cost savings over the long haul... so another theory is that they over engineered the triggers originally, because they were worried about wear and tear, but found over time that the triggers didn't need to be as robust as they thought, and they could make then more cheaply with more plastic.

[@GrainGrown]

*a lot, "alot" isn't a word *them Especially since the silly thumb stick potentiometers wear out way sooner than the triggers.

[@shiro3146]

or maybe, for bad thoughts, they just thinks the more contorller break the profitable they become or maybe thumbstick breaks way more often than the triggers so they cut the price on that too while they are at it

[@StewDogR]

Finally found a place where all my fellow autistic PlayStation fans can gather

[@HowToX]

We are always the first to notice the changes.

[@Perchanceexposer]

Huh?

[@StewDogR]

@@Perchanceexposer deeply autistic video lol. I like it though

[@johzho123]

I'm the type of autist that wants to tune the best dpads on any controller...

[@commandacrunch]

@@johzho123 I have so many mostly redundant controllers just because of my search for the perfect Dpad lol

[@UnitedWeStandFreedom]

5 versions no better battery life or erasing stick drift issues go figure 😂😂

[@StormDiper]

Thought this new would at least have hall effect joysticks bruh

[@KissyKaede]

Fixing drift issues would cut into their bottom line, let's be real. That shit will never get fixed until legislation forces them to.

[@qwerty6789x]

cheaper materials and lesser parts i guess

[@divinium33]

Idk why anybody thinks they’d fix what makes them money or add Hall effect, that defeats the purpose of having u buy another controller over and over again, they don’t care about the consumer. They even stopped making stick replacements for the edge lol.

[@spukin7636]

@@KissyKaede yep they want people to invest in new pads or edge verision (in which you still can't get new stick as they are sold out or in scalper prices)

[@mariamghotbi]

I love how detailed you are, please keep it this way for your future videos.

[@mhamzah4585]

I've got a Gen 4 and it's nice knowing all the subtle differences and small details so keep it up!

[@kanaria-cu3uv]

they will never fix stick drift they make way too much money re selling you controllers for them to do that

[@mattg.2774]

They're going to have to. People are becoming aware of hall effect and TMR joysticks and alternative brands are starting to build excellent controllers with them. The more this happens the more they will be pushed to implement it in future generations.

[@JeannieLove]

​@@mattg.2774They all have adaptive triggers and tactitle vibration?

[@inendlesspain4724]

@@JeannieLove Who cares about any of that?

[@daimonien]

​@@mattg.2774aaand then Sony just blocks all 3rd party brands working with PS

[@dariusdatcu1068]

Idk if its a ps5 only thing but i got a ps4 controller for like 2 years and got no problem at all, probably it depends on how you use it.

[@ZenTunE-]

Just bought one a couple of days ago and it's gen 4. Got super scared when I saw this in my recommended but relieved to see it doesn't really matter haha

[@GatsuRage]

I mean if u care u could prob return it and rebuy it again making sure u get a gen5 if its only a few days old it should be fine (or contact sony for a replacement I did that with headphones one time and I had 0 issues with sony)

[@ZenTunE-]

@@GatsuRage I could but since it's from a retailer, I would have to wait who knows how long for their stock to update to the Gen 5. I don't think it's worth, I'll just keep this one.

[@HowToX]

There are a lot of people in the comments saying that the serial number is to the left of the Made in China text. PLEASE DO NOT GO BY THAT RULE. They have shifted around the position of the serial number over the years; it's not always next to Made in China. I have two that don't. Plus, they may continue to shift around things in the future. Just scan the QR code.

[@ThatOneDudeWhoPostsStuff]

I found it! The Serial Number is underneath the word "Tokyo" :)

[@NoNameMnk]

Not on all of them. On the Gen 1 and 3 controllers I have it is over on the left.

[@320iSTWEdition]

I'd prefer the metal rod instead of the piece of plastic...... in the long run it will last longer..... the plastic rod will break more often than not.... Furthermore i do not believe this change has anything to do with warranty repairs because of failing trigger mechanisms. This is all for bringing down cost. The metal rod alone will save them millions despite design cost.

[@johnconnor7501]

Yes

[@J0rdan912]

To be fair, I've never seen a broken plastic rod on any at least somewhat well-known brand controller even after years of use (except Gulikit, some folks had it broken like in a few days to weeks, which is clearly their infamous QC issue). So yeah, it's good to have a metal rod, but plastic do fine, except it may be a bit squeaky, but once again, easily solvable and rare.

[@poopandfartjokes]

To be fair, the metal rod could cause issues being that it’s harder than the plastic cylinder. Maybe the trigger is less likely to break when the rod is made of the same material?

[@patricklucas3166]

@@poopandfartjokes ​ @poopandfartjokes I has similar thoughts. In addition, perhaps the plastic rod might have some flex, causing less stress on surrounding parts. Who knows lol! Regardless, plastic parts are obviously cheaper to produce in the long-run.

[@HowToX]

Good points. I do think replacing the trigger will be easier to do now, so that's a plus.

[@e_xtech]

What I just noticed when you pointed out about the triggers being easier to pull: I have the following: 2nd gen DualSense - Midnight black: hardest to pull Dualsense edge - 2nd hardest to pull when triggers are fully extended 4th gen DualSense that came with the ps5 slim: easiest to pull didn't notice this til now

[@emmettturner9452]

5:23 the “VR” on that component means “Variable Resistor,” which is a component often used in things like position sensors in addition to the usual volume and brightness knobs.

[@ADreamingTraveler]

Would be cool if Microsoft did revisions for their Xbox controller that fixed the flaws like the plastic on the bumpers breaking. Have had 4 controllers have the bumpers break all on the right side.

[@headerahelix]

What the hell are you doing with them? I've never had any plastic on any controller break after years of ownership and even sharing them. Not even after a drop.

[@ADreamingTraveler]

@@headerahelix It's a common issue if you look around. Like look at the reviews on Target for the normal version and Elite controllers you'll see a ton of people complaining about bumpers breaking, stick drift and more. I've owned tons of controllers for decades and it wasn't until the past few years where all my controllers started having issues. Never had any break before this.

[@AJ-po6up]

Yeah, MS hasn't really updated their controllers at all afaik, they're missing so much new stuff too. Mine also had this problem with the plastic on the bumpers and like you said, I never had problems with controllers until these last 2 generations of consoles, and I've been using and buying controllers since the SNES and PS1 days and never had one develop these problems.

[@ickilla]

​@ADreamingTraveler on the first gen elite controllers yes but on normal controllers and the elite 2 this hasn't been a issue I have 6 controllers and two elite series 2's with zero issue with bumpers

[@xproflipscarab]

@@ickilla Its all relative... You've had your experience yet I had my Elite 1 for 7 - 8 years under HEAVY use and only replaced the bumpers once after dropping it... Yet my Elite 2 that I've owned for a year and barely touched my xbox yet the right bumper barely works and the rubber grips from the upper sides of the controller are peeling off

[@immortallix]

Charging that much for a controller without hall sticks should be illegal

[@tinystar3010]

And Joycons for Nintendo Switch are still higher priced even with Sony bumping up the price by $5. I'm not that bothered by not having hall effects for the price. The vast majority of gamers who buy consoles are casuals and kids. Most people who take gaming seriously just build PCs. And those left in the niche middle like me, who can't afford a PC but take gaming more seriously, want better components but companies don't need to waste more on parts most consumers won't get use from, and have the disadvantage of less sales because of increased prices that casuals don't want, and kids won't afford. However, I do believe 3rd party "pro controllers" and stuff like the dualsense edge should have hall effects, because then it's an add-on that fills that niche gap and justifies increased cost. All simple stuff to understand.

[@inendlesspain4724]

And yet people keep buying them knowing well they'll go bad eventually...

[@ps4games164]

More like corporations getting advantages of your purchases should be illegal. You spend the money for the console, you bought the games and now endless stick drift awaiting you, along with many ads, forced subscriptions and brainwashing little details.

[@cacaulaymulkin7724]

@@inendlesspain4724 gulikit make hall effect sticks for the dual sense, just replace them when they get drift.

[@unumex_]

@@cacaulaymulkin7724 gulikit are making TMR sticks now, which, judging by the tests, are better than hall effect. Only one stick had drift, but I replaced both.

[@hsp1316]

This is great work. Really helped. I just wished you had showed the conductive film differences in the 5 gens also since this is the most replaced part in a controller. Thanks for the effort.

[@keir92]

Crazy. My astro bot controller is a gen 4.

[@HowToX]

They probably produced them, then sat on them for a while to coincide with the release of the game.

[@antwango]

stop worrying about stuff out of your control, enjoy the games! dont zoom in and dissect everything trying to figure out stuff or trying to second guess or try to come up with conspiracies lol.... im not saying you are btw.... its just gaming has become ridiculously soulless with people zooming into pixel count, people going into a single employees twitter history to figure out their politics, now people figuring out the best gen of a controller.... again im not knocking the tech or the science or the curiosity behind this, its fascinating for me too... i dont know gaming is losing its magic and fun if we all boil it down to numbers, and some va's past tweets and thoughts etc.... we're lynching games now before theyve come out... we're lynching games companies which has employed 1 va etc... sorry not trying to unload on you dude or the channel..... just my thoughts after a few videos bought me to this video lol... but yeah enjoy the games thats what theyre made for!!! dont worry that you have a gen 4 controller.... PEACE!

[@J-fi9bq]

@@antwango I'd say looking into each revision of a controller, or anything for the matter is significant, not only to see the improvements over time, or lack thereof, but also to report a slight change in instructions for disassembly and parts used that may or may not be interchangeable, if necessary. On a side note: Quality control is a huge problem for todays electronics.

[@jollama]

@@antwangoUnlike the people you’re referring to, some like myself will give constructive criticism because we want companies to be the best they can be and produce products that both them and the consumers will be proud of

[@miketothesupra]

both of my ps3 controllers still best ive ever had in reliability terms. batteries die and recharge and work Stick shift never happened

[@0xybelis]

Looks much cheaper. Especially usage of plastic rode. I'd bet it worns out sooner and screaks after some time.

[@Harkins1721]

Looks can be deceiving though

[@antwango]

revisions are usually to improve, streamlining processes... you may argue rod is a separate metallic piece which needs to be sourced etc, but maybe the difference is negligible in actual use... and theyve either tickened the plastic rod hence the slightly bigger hole and a single monolithic printed piece should mean its stronger not to mention cheaper in sourcing and manufacturing.... again we can go anal and deep dive the intentions but no one really knows... revisions are usually to improve and streamline a product and processes WHILE saving money and reducing costs... dont think of reducing costs as a negative.... everyone knows everything electrical has either gone up in price or not received discounts.... they cant win either way

[@Mkilbride2599]

Guns switches to plastic rods. No issues. And that's guns, with a lot more force. A plastic guide rod will survive like 7000-8000 rounds while a full metal one might survive maybe an extra 1000.

[@madmax2069]

​@@Mkilbride2599 yeah but those guns are also using a far different kind of plastic than what this is using.

[@J0rdan912]

Later Dualshock 4 2023-2024 controllers from Japan are also looks much cheaper - sharper and less polished edges, thinner plastic, worse and uneven tiling of a shell. But no problems with overall build quality and performance (so far). I wouldn't be surprised if very polished and solid built Dualsense would feel worse in later revisions.

[@usersony112]

Thanks for the deep dive into the small detailed changes

[@tjones261]

It's crazy and frustrating that all this time has gone by and Sony has ignored the LONG TERM drift issues instead of just installing the actually cheaper hall effect joysticks. If it isn't intentional than it just doesn't make any sense for them to rework the triggers so often and still let this DECADES old problem continue with the joysticks.

[@Sad_Elf]

they make tons off of people buying replacement controllers and buying stick modules for the edge, they turned stick drift into an actual money printer

[@robertlawrence9000]

@@Sad_Elf yep. They should be sued over it. It's ridiculous

[@Wujek_Foliarz]

I went to the store where I bought the controller and they replaced it without even checking

[@J0rdan912]

We're still waiting for someone to make a solid 3rd party PS5 controller with all features supported and hall/tmr sticks for an adequate price.

[@HollowRick]

I'd love to get a Duelshock 4 syle controller with a Vita dpad and hall effect sticks that would be my perfect controller

[@J0rdan912]

@@HollowRick New Gamesir Tarantula Pro should be your best choice, except it's bigger and dpad is clicky with tact switches.

[@BossMadMax]

​@@J0rdan912Not compatible with PS5

[@J0rdan912]

@@BossMadMax Use universal adapters

[@BossMadMax]

@@J0rdan912 which one? Never saw adapters for PS5

[@GAI3E_]

I love these types of videos they remind me of How It's Made or Modern Marvels. Such a oddly specific curios comparison.

[@johzho123]

Funky specific, someone has to make a vid like this lol, THANK YOU

[@syn80]

I have a BDM-020 & a BDM-030 Midnight Black Dualsense. According to Google, the black Dualsense was released: June 11th 2021.

[@bobbymoss6160]

All the changes in the plastic points to retooling of stamps for specific pieces that make up the controller. Nonetheless, the only change people wanna see is Sony adding hall effect sensor joy sticks to the controller.

[@guillaumebackelandt7381]

Why would they do that when they have people buy controllers over and over because going through customer service is very tedious and annoying, they just make it as cheap as possible to manufacture (while bumping the retail price) but still as unreliable, also saw in a video that if by the time your controller gets faulty, if the writings on the back aren't readable (and you don't have a picture of the numbers like 99.99% of ppl) they won't replace the controller, how many Dual Sense users prefer to bite the bullet and just buy a new one with a flashy color that just released instead of repairing or going through customers service, it's not like there's not enough plastic in the oceans and everywhere, right? I believe the accessories market is incredibly profitable, and everything they do, they do on purpose, ofc they know about hall effect sensors but using that would be like selling tyres that can't puncture ever, see my point? If I were a Dual Sense user who plays a lot, I'd just buy Hall Effect sensors made for it and go ask a phone repair shop or whatever to install them for me then voilà, you'd pay more one time but have a controller that can last for years, unless you break it in a ragequit frenzy moment ofc.

[@alemasterdi]

This is what i been talking about! No one believes me , i knew they were different versions thanks 🙏

[@zandatsu07]

They made 5 generations and the 5th one still no hall effect sticks?

[@BrunoUtech]

ofc not, so people have to buy a new one every 6 months 🤣🤣🤣🤣 business 101

[@macruz8503]

@@BrunoUtechor you can just get the dual sense edge like I have…..np.

[@cameronfarrell9076]

​@@macruz8503 dual sense still gets a very high failure rate relating to drift......

[@dmvsye]

@@macruz8503 Huh??

[@ChAnZeEMi]

They're revisions not a new controller so You would generaly get the same device only with more cheap materials to save productions cost. Also don't spect hall effect joysticks for Main controllers cause they want You to purchase more controllers I'd still remember the Dualshock 3 was the Best controller cause they were using magnetic sticks and i haven't seen any with stick drift.

[@KapitanWasTaken]

Honestly I never knew about those versions. I have 2x Gen 1 white controllers and I've recently bought 2x Gen 4 camo controllers. Also I've never encountered any drift stick (I've had those white controllers since 2020, the new controllers were bought so I could play 4-player games with friends). Your video was very informational!

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

5:32 Exactly. Its a potentiometer similar to the sticks, but applied in slightly different way.

[@butterburns]

Dude, thanks for the in-depth explanation.

[@devincurrie4145]

Thanks for doing these teardown and doing comparison between versions. Is the battery exactly the same across all versions?

[@panamike6178]

The dual sense that came with my PS5 was done after 6 months and I only play on the weekends. It was a launch day PS5, probably why.

[@dm.3145]

wdym? did it get stick drift?

[@panamike6178]

@@dm.3145 Yes, unfortunately. First time I ever experienced stick drift. I think they've made 4 or iteratons of the controller, mine was a day 1 controller, maybe that's why it stopped working after a few months.

[@kingoftherevolution4855]

I didn't know there was more than one honestly but I guess that makes sense this is the sort of thing that happens

[@NeoCyrus777]

These differences matter for installing any mods, like the ones ExtremeRate sell. I have pretty much all of those mods they offer installed in my Dualsense (except for pointless stuff like RGB), & small differences like the trigger buttons being changed breaks compatibility & they have to make new revisions.

[@joshuabonorino9561]

Gen 5 they made it harder for repair shops to fix so if it breaks it forces you to buy a new one

[@Zer0_Smith]

I know a lot of people complain about stick drift, now this is completely anecdotal obviously, but I have a version 1 and its been very reliable for me. Its had absolutely no issues with the sticks or the triggers and ive had it since day 1 of its release. I pre ordered one right when it became available

[@EternalNightingale]

Same here I have my controller that came with a 2021 PS5 and still performs very well granted I rotate it with other controllers so it’s not heavily used

[@Zer0_Smith]

@@EternalNightingale Its still basically the only controller I use. The only time I dont use it is when I am playing Xbox Series X. But when I play PS, PC (on games thats better with controller obv) or Xbox 360 (with a little adapter) I use my original DualSense because while honestly, DualShock 4 is my favorite controller, the battery life loss isnt worth it.

[@mjy]

My Midnight Black is a Gen 1. I got it as soon as the official first batch of non-white console covers were available.

[@Hash9377]

awesome video man

[@John-oo9xu]

Sony is a master in revisions, all cost management and improvements

[@robertlawrence9000]

Master of taking money from wallets. They are still using problematic analog stick modules 😂

[@John-oo9xu]

@@robertlawrence9000 im glad they do, is part of my income

[@NFTygaming]

Great content. Very informative thank you.

[@slipstream7324]

i enjoyed this video keep up the good work

[@EonHSD]

Do you think the 30th anniversary controllers will be this gen?

[@GatsuRage]

btw the gen1 to gen2 trigger thing is due to the lil spring they're using for it, gen1 was so thin it used to just break by use (it happened to me) that's why for gen2 they put thicker springs on the triggers and in case any1 wonders yes u can buy said spring online if u want to replace ur gen1's springs.

[@pronominal6188]

it almost always better to have the latest revision

[@LoneWolf27280]

How’s the stick drift problem with the Dualsense these days…?

[@aweigh1010]

I own 5 dualsenses and 2 dualsense Edges and none have developed any drift whatsoever. Earlist revision I own is a Gen 3 Midnight Black. I did notice that my Gen 3 Midnight Black's analog sticks feel "smoother" and make less noise than my other dualsenses, and my revision 1 DualSense's Edge's analog sticks also feel smoother and less scratchy when being physically moved than my more recently-purchased Edge.

[@iJobama]

I've never had stick drift on a PS5 controller. They completely skip stick drift and just start making wacky upto 100% inputs on their own. Usually after 3/4 months of heavy use.

[@HeroVax]

I have issues with stick drift, but it's all because of the potentiometer goes bad overtime. I just had to replace this particular part and it's fixed. I can use the dualsense for months. As for this time, there isn't any stick drift issues so far. But I keep many potentiometer with me just in case it breaks again.

[@HowToX]

Some people never experience drift. Some people have drift after a few months. Some people have drift right out of the box. Sony and others needs to ditch the design next gen and move to hall effect sticks.

[@PixelPioneer23-q5p]

​@@HowToXDo you have any idea whether newer revisions are less prone to drift?

[@seltekhdulzen8915]

I play fighting games with Dualsense's D-pad a lot and they only tend to last 6 months only. With all revisions and versions, they change the silicone part shapes constantly and now it's almost impossible to find spare parts if I want to fix them myself. So far most common spare parts are for V2/Gen2 controllers. With how fragile these controllers are, I feel like Sony is constantly making changes so that you are forced to buy new ones instead of fixing them yourself.

[@keir92]

I have a gen 1 midnight black.

[@GatsuRage]

wait really? u must've got it as soon they came out cos pretty sure gen2 came at the same or very very close time when they released all those new colors.

[@Chr15Payne]

@@GatsuRagethe first guaranteed gen 2s were the purple, sky blue and red controllers I think. Black came out a bit before

[@danilocamere2896]

And well done Sir very interesting video , i wish they put some more effort to eliminating the drift on the sticks using Hal ones . but i guess we have to wait until PS6 for that ...

[@glbernini0]

Can't wait to see if the Pro version will have these!

[@BarcodeGamez]

Hall Effects… someday Sony. We’re still waiting.

[@HollowRick]

I wouldn't mind the psp go had a hall effect stick and the 1000 ps vita used hall effect sticks so they're just cheaping out at this point

[@BaamAlex]

You will never see that on their future controllers. Trust me.

[@GranTurismo7TopSpeed]

Excellent video

[@nandofl_]

Very interesting video. I love technology and like to know how things work. 👍

[@Folko]

Great job. Very interesting

[@GrandSil90]

Weirdly their newst model that is out right now (the astro bot limited edition one) is 4th Gen. Surprised about it

[@jarde1989]

Special edition controllers are usually built ahead of time and warehouse for weeks or months prior to release A new revision of a standard controller would be sent right to store shelves after being produced

[@McKuc]

The cardbord in the boxes changed. Rev 1,2 and 3 have no holes when you apply pressure from the bottom of the box. Gen 4 and 5 have a hole

[@kenabi_San]

Regarding the serial number without the QR code, you can see the F5 blah blah blah in the second row of text in the middle right (on the wall of text on the back of the controller.) It doesn’t say serial number, but it’s the same exact line of text that you got from the QR code.

[@PLASTICAMAN]

Thanks for the video. When showing that DS controller you confirmed that the PS5 Pro packs up the 4th revision of the DS controller and not the latest 5th revision.

[@HowToX]

I would not assume all Pros come with the gen 4s. They may run out of 4th Gen in the middle of packaging and switch over to 5th.

[@PLASTICAMAN]

@@HowToX Maybe, but that would require selling all stock of PS5 Pros to start the manufacturing with new batches. Maybe different regions get different controllers and newer ones, just like how different regions got different fans for the original PS5. But we know if there is a rvision for the PS5 Pro that may happen soon, it will be packed with it.

[@irfkaptan]

I got the Gen 5 (F5) in my pro. Also got lucky again with the fan! Like my day one Base PS5 it came with the Delta Electronics instead of the common Foxxconn…

[@PLASTICAMAN]

@@irfkaptan Are you sure? What version? I saw NA ones getting F4. Are you in Europe?

[@irfkaptan]

Hi ! Im from Germany, yes. It’s the new one, definitely. F5xxxx series. Also the R1/2 buttons are bit more textured on the surface it seems, you can already immediately feel the difference too if you hold F4 and F5 together

[@ilikeshiba]

What a beautiful piece of engineering

[@Enzo.B_RL]

Wtf?! There are 5 versions of this controller?! I just bought one yesterday!

[@Shady-x5c]

You may got Gen 5 or 4

[@Enzo.B_RL]

@@Shady-x5c I got a gen 4 from a used game store.

[@ArmyGreensTanBoots]

I've never had issues with the triggers, but definitely had issues with stick drift on earlier controllers. I do game a lot for what that is worth and I use controller #2 for casual games.

[@ronaldbeats.]

Amazing video!!! 1+ sub 🍄

[@themightyimp08]

This is fascinating news. Thank for this. Not even the astrobot controller is a gen 5, its still a gen 4. I bet the 30th edition controller is a gen 5... Ill let you know when it arrives

[@dave11674]

And still they are using analogue potentiometers for the sticks. So you will get drift. Ive just fixed my day 1 pad with 3d hall sensors ;)

[@eazybuxafew]

Just checked my controllers. My midnight black is gen 1, my cobalt blue is gen 4!

[@J-fi9bq]

I got two gen 5 midnight black controllers, one of them has solid and responsive buttons, but the headphone jack has slightly lower quality audio and noisier background static when using low impedance/high sensitivity headphones, the second one I received was quiet with cleaner audio, but the left trigger was stiff, and all the buttons were just mush.

[@wajutomeevovo4138]

truth is the triggers get bad more than the sticks, you will think drifting stick is the worse but triggers are more bad in the previous years , the responses are also affected. its a welcomed development from sunny in modifying the triggers to give gamers better gaming experience

[@yyniuniu]

I don't think controller drift is a huge issue here. Mine dualshock4 from 2015 still works fine now.

[@LucasOQ]

This video is the only reason for me knowing that I have a gen 2 blue, which I knew and a gen 3 white controller, which I thought was gen 2. And I have noticed that the triggers are slightly different but nothing really that special.

[@nanopone]

my midnight black dualsense is gen 1, btw

[@epicon6]

Have they improved the d-pad? I had a gen 1 and it was the squekiest dpad i’ve ever used so i sold it

[@JerkoFranelic]

Yeah wtf my gen 2 squeaks LOUDER than my pet rats

[@EfecanYSL]

@@JerkoFranelic my gen 1 isn't squeeky at all. are we sure its not a low chance error thing ?

[@videogameobsession]

@@EfecanYSL Same. 2020 launch model and it's perfectly quiet. No issues at all, and I have thousands of hours of use on it.

[@tom_123]

I recently gave mine a blast of contact cleaner. It helps.

[@maybebutwhatever]

Replaced it with dpad from ds4 It's way better

[@Ark_Strike]

"Why is Sony not addressing the drift issues?" Money Seriously, get a DualSense from Japan, model is CFI-ZCT1J and it is much sturdier than the version they sell to the rest of the world. Battery life is the same but just by holding them and using them I can tell the difference heck I noticed the difference when I used it without knowing the japanese model was better.

[@Good_Horsey]

Having gotten a Japanese PS5 model myself, the OG controller that came with is still going strong almost 2 years later. Now if they hadn't also glued the headphone jack to the board with mucus, it'd be the perfect all-rounder.

[@Ark_Strike]

@@1moblin2 Bro I'm not that old and I don't have stick drift issues with either of my 2 dualsense, its not about being too rough with them either some controllers have presented the issue out of the box while others have had a controller for a year of daily gaming and have had no issues, like me. Stop speaking like you know anybody, its embarrassing. I recommend the japanese controller because its definitely higher quality so it will last longer and for a 70$ piece of hardware it better fucking last a while.

[@inendlesspain4724]

For some reason japanese corporations have far more respect towards their local audiences than any corporation worldwide does towards western audiences, doesn't matter what products they sell. I've heard PR and all that is a much bigger deal over there than in the west, and it shows in the end results.

[@f.9344]

How did you get it?

[@Ark_Strike]

@@f.9344 I bought a PS5 Slim from Japan but you can buy the controller individually too, just make sure its from a Japanese retail

[@zubiddydoodoopop]

You should do a test on some games like Gran Turismo that require precise trigger input to avoid wheel spin to see if the new sensor improves accuracy. There's a difference between having the force feedback on and off with the older design from what I noticed. Having it off will register 100% input about 2/3rds through it's travel whereas having it on completely will have a 100% input register happen later in its travel. Perhaps the new 30th anniversary Edge will be a reliable example of a new revision for those units as well. Hope that same new sensor is in it so I don't have to relearn precise input registers whenever I want to change my force feedback setting

[@QOTSAPT]

Clearly the triggers have not been a warranty problem hence the significant cost reduction evolution of the mechanism.

[@RetroMythologist]

I am glad that Sony continues to R&D their products, but at the same time, I foresee it potentially frustrating in the future for any DIY repairs trying to match the exact revision parts.

[@robnerdo]

Definitely feel a difference on my triggers on my older controllers. The right one doesn't seem to do the haptic feedback as well as the left one 😢

[@MxJavice]

Serial number on the back of the controller is between IC:XXXX-XXXXXXXX and MADE IN CHINA. Just look for the MADE IN CHINA and it's the number before starting with F and the 2nd character is a number as stated in the video. Probably different depending on controller version.

[@staraffinity]

I have a box that says Midnight Black on the side, but the controller is a revision 4. Don't assume that a Midnight Black controller is revision 5. :) Was thinking if the year on the boxes perhaps has changed on the revision 5 controllers or if it still says 2023 on them? 🤔

[@dymos7750]

Checking in here with the new anniversary Model of the dual sense … anyone else?

[@firage]

All the ones I've seen have been 4's

[@PurushNahiMahaPurush]

I honestly don't understand the battery life complaints in the comment section. How long are you people gaming per day? The PS5 literally has a setting to change your controllers when in rest mode. That's what I do. I don't play on it more than 2-3 hours a day and at the end of the day, I put it back to charge when in rest mode. The battery life is fine IMO and its better than constantly swapping AAA batteries like in Xbox Controllers. My problem with the controller isn't battery life but the overall longevity. Having non replaceable batteries and so many users having stick drift issues (I personally haven't faced it yet) is what worries me.

[@victord777]

Everyone complains about stick drift on the Ps5 controller but in two years of ownership with about 600+hours of playtime I have not had issues. Meanwhile I have had 5 joycons sent to nintendo for repair.

[@davestationuk7374]

Im the same have 2 of them and no issues at all

[@Flokker]

My Cosmic Purple one has stick drift after maybe 120 hours of use and im generally very careful with my hardware. I think its just luck of the draw on how the mold was feeling that day in the factory.

[@BallyBoy95]

I owned a PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 and PS5 game controller. The first time I've had a game controller break on me, is with my PS5 game controller (left analogue stick drift and 3.5mm jack not registering microphone). A part of me genuinely wonders whether Sony purposely times these for when the warranty expires.

[@gilroygilmore]

Gen 3 is hard to push, too. I thought I had a gen 4 bc they look similar inside. I just opened it and didn't look up which one I got.

[@nwabuunamma]

Any revision without a Hall effect joystick is a waste of our time

[@LyuboA]

i have two Black Dualsense one i bought immediately when it was released and the other probably a year and half later by that time i know gen3 was out but to my suprise it was gen1 and from what i can see gen1 has the best internals from gen2 and up you can clearly see Sony is cutting corners on components to bring the manufacturing cost down andn get bigger profits

[@TomO-be3yv]

Whats the point? it will still develop stick drift in next to no time.

[@taiphvql]

Thanks 🎉

[@kklum6998]

Gen 1, Gen 2, Gen 3, Gen 4, Gen 5, still using potentiometer controller. Mine: Gen infinity changed to TMR sensor. Enough said. ( Thanks for the correction, Hitokiri926)

[@Hitokiri926]

I’d look into TMR joysticks. There’s a guy on KZbin that covers them as well as Hall effects. From all the testing they’re superior in a number of ways to Hall effect. Power draw, jitter, voltage fall time, etc..

[@kklum6998]

@@Hitokiri926 The Hall Effect sensor has come a long way. Those problems have already been eliminated or if you are a skeptic. Greatly reduced. In fact, I waited for the right moment before making the purchase and soldering it myself to my PS5 DualShock. Furthermore desoldering is a hassle using a potentiometer so I might as well do it once. There are no original pot except for OEMs or buying brand new ones which is Sony's true intention in the first place and calibration is made easier using software. That is why I jumped at the first best Hall Effect sensor recommended by this KZbinr. He is an electrician so he is more qualified to know the best. Like I have said no regret with my decision. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYSyfIFnrKdmZ80si=YoDWKOQDOVUCRumU

[@kklum6998]

@@Hitokiri926 The latest hall effect from Gullitkit solved all these minor problems plus there is now a software-based calibration. Do you know the hassle of desoldering and knowing that if you were solder in the OEM pot, getting stick drift after 2-5 years, and doing it all over again? No, thank you. The benefits outweigh the cons. Hall effect is the future. The You Tuber I am referring to is "Metal Plastic Electronics" who does in-depth analysis on this matter thoroughly. Check him out

[@kklum6998]

@@Hitokiri926 I have deleted my previous comment on what I thought was Hall Effect sensor as I have lump it up together with TMR sensor. Yes. You right. TMR may use magnet but it is a different tech altogether. Far superior. That is what is in my PS5 controller. Gullikit TMR, not Hall Effect. My bad.

[@Hitokiri926]

@@kklum6998 no worries man, glad you got the good stuff! That’s also what I have in 1 of my ps5 dualsense’s. I need to order more for the others haha. I just wish I could do the dualsense edge, but I don’t think you can calibrate those yet, though I may be mistaken.

[@influentialgurning]

Why worry? Just play for as long as the server and controller allow, and hope that the controller gives up on the player first. That way, everyone can play again for a mere 70-900 quid (depending on which brand of affordable box of buttons one prefers) every eleven months or so. When the servers say, "No more," everyone can go back to his roots with a Commodore 16 and a cassette deck.

[@brennancurrier806]

I still use my Gen 1 from launch PS4 to this day on my PC for certain games. seems to be ok. Maybe one day ill get a new one for a new color

[@staticshocker69]

Are there any outside physical differences in the size and ergonomics?

[@rob19ny]

Sony sneakily increases the price of the dualsense worldwide on September 2nd then we learn the dualsense has been upgraded to gen 5.

[@lesslighter]

the serial number is after the IC chip designation

[@jhard6936]

Okay, between the five versions, which one is the best? And how do I know what color the fifth generation will come in?

[@jhard6936]

Okay, between the five versions, which one is the best for the drifting? And how do I know what color the fifth generation will come in?

[@MrPeelcam]

I havent worked on gen 5 controller yet so this was cool. I mod the hell out of my controllers. I wonder if that new piece makes it easier to add hall effext triggers. I mean, TMR is out for joysticks now, which is just a better version of hall effect. I just dont know how big the jump would be to TMR or if its worth it.

[@Hitokiri926]

Did you happen to test the adaptive triggers noise? They are incredibly noisy in the gen 1 controllers

[@gucky4717]

It would be interesting to know, what version the retro controller is. Probably V5. And are there any iterations of the edge controller?

[@tricky2917]

Does any of them have more durable thumbsticks?

[@JBIGroup3D]

happy i have gen4 for my pc

[@Nu_Merick]

Around the time they increased the price of the dual sense controller. one can hope they at least tried to make the parts last longer, specifically the analog sticks

[@J0rdan912]

Of course not