The 6dB Trick

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Streaky

Streaky

Күн бұрын

So your channels are clipping….
To prevent this, apply a limiter with 6 dB of gain to your output.
Working louder from the start quiets individual channels.
Remove the 6 dB at the end to create headroom for mastering, avoiding overload and ensuring space for adjustments.
#mastering #mixingandmastering #limiter #clipping

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@CrazzyJokerr
@CrazzyJokerr 7 ай бұрын
Alternative: Turn every channel down and turn your interface up, easy 10 DB headroom
@80slimshadys
@80slimshadys 7 ай бұрын
I by default turn any new channel down 10dB
@farfromnorth
@farfromnorth 6 ай бұрын
Agree with this, no need for using extra plugins.
@DanteRose
@DanteRose 6 ай бұрын
I find it better to add a gain plugin on the first insert and turn that down rather than the fader, that way the signal going into any plugins after that is lower
@HiiiiiT
@HiiiiiT 6 ай бұрын
Cranking up the interface mostly causes clipping issues and it won't be as easy to work with opposed to the removable limiter, I think
@DeaupasBeats
@DeaupasBeats 6 ай бұрын
@@DanteRoseI second this
@HIGHTOP203
@HIGHTOP203 7 ай бұрын
if you dont redline, you won’t headline
@fattmusiek5452
@fattmusiek5452 6 ай бұрын
Haa
@lurkwave
@lurkwave 6 ай бұрын
CRANK IT UP
@Southernzfinest
@Southernzfinest 6 ай бұрын
If it ain't clippin, it ain't hittin!!!
@InYourDreams-Andia
@InYourDreams-Andia 6 ай бұрын
Lol, recently at a live festi, I was clipping the channels on a X32 compact. Long ways off from clipping the amps, but damn, driving it harder was a pleasure. 3piece stoner grunge band. Full scale 🤟
@HIGHTOP203
@HIGHTOP203 6 ай бұрын
lemme know where I can find your band my guy imma check yall out
@ralphfokkema2316
@ralphfokkema2316 6 ай бұрын
This a good trick for mixer who still ride a bike training wheels. Learning to gain stage is probably better. Start with a good balance of your mix using clipgain. Don’t worry if something is not hitting -18dbfs or 0 on your vu. If you make your loudest elements(voice,snare,bass and kick) together just a bit louder than 0 vu, you will never be in trouble.
@superrrnova1986
@superrrnova1986 3 ай бұрын
I honestly have no idea what any of that means which is a little worrying. But I will definitely look into it, cheers for the tip!!
@nuh-uhbro765
@nuh-uhbro765 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@superrrnova1986That’s just what happens when people try to sound smarter than they are by finding the most complicated way they can to say something simple. Literally everything he said just translates to: Gainstage -> make sure your loudest tracks aren’t clipping. I bet bro went to some expensive music school and now he needs to make sure everybody knows.
@KenTeel
@KenTeel 2 ай бұрын
@@nuh-uhbro765 Yes, just use jargon language, and tell yourself that you're smart. Who cares if the audience knows what you're talking about. If you've impressed them, then it's mission accomplished.
@LostOnThePianoRoll
@LostOnThePianoRoll Ай бұрын
He gave you the proper terms to do your research. how's that snobby jargon?
@darkcharmrecords
@darkcharmrecords Ай бұрын
@@nuh-uhbro765 You're explanation of what he said is garbage - if you have even just two track just under clipping (0db) when they combine they will clip the master - again what you have said is rubbish and teaches nothing. Help people or get out of the comments and leave the real teachers alone. Again... garbage
@StevoLloyds
@StevoLloyds 5 ай бұрын
The irony of recording a video on how to stop clipping, with a clipped narration. Nice one Streaky
@Rokosbasil
@Rokosbasil 3 ай бұрын
Lol
@SpigotsMcGee
@SpigotsMcGee 2 ай бұрын
🤣
@realraven2000
@realraven2000 2 ай бұрын
Sarah Carters gain staging video was pretty good. calibrate a vu meter to -14db in the. master, mix drums to-7db add bass so you reach-5db, then add the other elements
@whitex4652
@whitex4652 Ай бұрын
He is a nut job. Most of the time.
@Official360
@Official360 Ай бұрын
Lmao😂 ok, I'm not tripping
@SilvvaOfc
@SilvvaOfc 6 ай бұрын
I make sure my kick peaks at -12db by the end of the mixdown session I'm usually peaking around -6db to -3db
@dankenton
@dankenton 14 күн бұрын
Yep, that's my method too although I target -10dB for the kick and end up around -3dB for the pre-master.
@snubdawg1386
@snubdawg1386 9 күн бұрын
@@dankenton and when do you aim for loudness?
@dankenton
@dankenton 9 күн бұрын
@ I'm not aiming for loudness but consistency in the dynamics among the tracks including whatever punchiness you want from compression & EQ among the tracks so it's important to level match before & after with effects so you're not losing the kick drum. In the end, that -3dB is going to allow you to use whatever master buss color you want to achieve your loudness goal.
@snubdawg1386
@snubdawg1386 9 күн бұрын
@@dankenton i try to already get the loudness in the mix
@marcosposse3750
@marcosposse3750 3 ай бұрын
I use normalize region gain. -18 for everything but drums and vocals. -12 for drums and vocals. Not only does it usually give me a good amount of headroom, but it honestly sets up the mix nicely to not have to move faders TOOOO much. But that's just from the way I produce/record. Idk if that'll work for everyone
@bobbybebrave4756
@bobbybebrave4756 8 күн бұрын
That’s a great tip! Ive gotten so used to leaving some for the mastering engineer that it’s automatic but this may be a great thing to add to my workflow!
@_JamesMaybe_
@_JamesMaybe_ 16 күн бұрын
Don't do this because the limiter tricks your ears into thinking it's hitting better than it is. You're just smashing the dynamics until you turn it off. Gain Stage your Master channel at 0db, your Pre-Master channel to -6db, and your individual channels from -10db to -18db for better headroom.
@Anabriel_Anima-The_Upbringer
@Anabriel_Anima-The_Upbringer 8 күн бұрын
Im working on -5,5/-3 LUFS with 0-1,5 db true peak with a premaster that I do as I mix the track on the go. I still have room for good mastering and nothing fucks up, as if I were have the channels in red or use a limiter with a big gain instead 😂
@ramseysounds2086
@ramseysounds2086 7 ай бұрын
it also means that any tracks that are really clipping, will actually clip when you take the limiter off
@orangeeeeeee
@orangeeeeeee 4 ай бұрын
Would the ideal thing be that they don't clip with limiter off as well?
@yvngkeekz
@yvngkeekz 3 ай бұрын
Not if you bring down the output level below 0
@yoyolebatteur
@yoyolebatteur 3 ай бұрын
In a DAW no tracks are really clipping except the outputs.
@orangeeeeeee
@orangeeeeeee 3 ай бұрын
@@Mi-Go Good to know! I try to do that but for some reason it's really hard for me not to hit that red :D So then I just end up throwing a limiter on everything anyway because I'm not bothered to manually continue levelling it out. And then also ear fatigue is a thing :/
@orangeeeeeee
@orangeeeeeee 3 ай бұрын
@@Mi-Go Yeah that's what I mean I just throw it on the master, gain staging I'm not so sure about. I've heard both pros and cons about it. Generally I've heard that you should only really focus on preceived loudness and trust your ears. Problem is I'm not really sure I can trust my ears on acheiving a balanced mix, because I feel I get ear fatigue pretty quickly.
@StillHavens
@StillHavens Ай бұрын
Nice thanks!
@AJoylessEon
@AJoylessEon 7 ай бұрын
Brilliant!!!
7 ай бұрын
you can just put a -6dB gain plugin first on the master buss. Modern DAWs won't clip.
@dannykirsch
@dannykirsch 6 ай бұрын
That’s really not true. You can get away with that in a modern DAW however it’s not ideal at all as everything is still hitting the master hot.
6 ай бұрын
​@@dannykirsch What do you mean by saying that? Can get away with it, but still would hit the master hot? The master is virtual - there is nothing 'to hit' per se. Plugins on the master - sure, that's why I said gain it down before any plugins. I do somewhat agree on it not being ideal (but not because of sound quality or clipping) - I do prefer having proper levels without the need of gaining everything down at the master bus. Also, chances are, individual tracks are feeding plugins too hot, which is a completely different topic.
@dannykirsch
@dannykirsch 6 ай бұрын
I’m prepared to concede that you might be right and I might be wrong. I’ll have to experiment. In my mind if you’re hitting the master bus above zero db then it means you haven’t gain staged your mix properly. If I go into any plug-in I always use auto gain or else I gain stage the output manually so that the eq, compressor etc etc isn’t making the volume louder. I assume you do that? Also on every channel in logic before I go into any plug-in I ensure I’m hitting around -12db (everyone says -18db is ideal but I find that too low). I do this by turning down the gain in any audio tracks and if it’s a virtual instrument I turn down the volume output. Do you do this too? If after doing all this I’m going into the master bus hot then I might for example put a -6db gain at the end of every channel or at the end of every bus but if you’re saying that putting a -6 gain reduction on the master itself (before any master plugins) then that would be far less hassle but are you sure that the sound quality would be identical and not compromised at all?
6 ай бұрын
@@dannykirsch Yes. I do not remember who did a more elaborate explanation of that on KZbin, but here's Dan Worrall mentioning that at around 2 minutes: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGiZfWeGh7iDfKc And, well, from my own experience, yeah, feeding tons of level from individual tracks and compensating at the master bus is the same as turning down all tracks individually. Although I definitely prefer avoiding it, just because it looks nicer and looks more intuitive (how the tracks levels sum). And as Dan said, makes you look more pro haha. Cheers Danny, hope your day's great.
@dannykirsch
@dannykirsch 6 ай бұрын
Wow interesting stuff having just watched Dan’s video. Thanks for sending. I work in 24 bit/48 hz and don’t bother dithering so I guess I too could simply reduce the master fader with a gain plug-in at the very top if required. Thank you for enlightening me. You’re going to save me a lot of time to be honest and also Dan’s right that bringing down all the channels uniformly can affect the mix somewhat. Have a great day too 🙌
@ghmario0677
@ghmario0677 Ай бұрын
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@djcontour
@djcontour 7 ай бұрын
I like to use a gain utility at the front of each track to bring the volume of everything down at a fixed amount. So instead of working louder and getting quieter, I like to just start by working quieter. It’s served me very well!
@avationmusic
@avationmusic 7 ай бұрын
Which gain utility do you use? :)
@djcontour
@djcontour 7 ай бұрын
@@avationmusic I actually just use Abletons utility plugin on each channel and drop the gain by -12db. Sometimes I will use relay by izotope too!
@milomaurermusic
@milomaurermusic 7 ай бұрын
Like Streaky, why not do this on the master and save the trouble?
@djcontour
@djcontour 7 ай бұрын
@@milomaurermusic I utilize my utility for gain automation as well. I also sometimes use izotope visual mixer, so if I’m using that I relay on each channel. So I’ll use it as my utility.
@Bittamin
@Bittamin 6 ай бұрын
For me yes and it’s also because there’s a lot of things in logic you can pull up on an empty channel strip that are gain staged completely different from say, the loop library. Some stuff in the legacy section of logic I’ve grabbed would have a synth that’s running with 5dB gain reduction into a limiter, having the sound basically already far more intense than the rest of the song in the session might be! Definitely better to tackle these issues with gain rather than pulling a fader right away
@passingcars2022
@passingcars2022 Ай бұрын
Good first video to kick off a channel. Got my subscription
@theDyingArts
@theDyingArts 4 ай бұрын
Just send your tracks to a submix bus before it hits your stereo out. You can not only back off the fader at the end, you can adjust how hard the mix is going to hit your 2BUS inserts.
@israelmukisa
@israelmukisa 5 ай бұрын
Niceness, thanks bro..... I like it, it surely is going to help me a lot...
@Dane_Riazer
@Dane_Riazer 4 ай бұрын
Ahh I wonder why The God Particle does this right off the bat and Jaycen recommends mixing through it? 🤔 love your tips Streaky🙌🏾
@marksaxon
@marksaxon 5 ай бұрын
Is it that hard to fix the gain on the tracks? This is like setting your clock ahead 15 mins so you’re not late but in your mind, you know the clock is 15 mins ahead. 😂
@zedmelon
@zedmelon Ай бұрын
Plus while half asleep and hitting the snooze button, that's the perfect time to start doing arithmetic.
@squeemlives
@squeemlives 7 ай бұрын
I just turn the volume way way up on my monitors before I start mixing, and then mix as normal. When the mixing is done I turn the volume on the monitors to where they would be normally, and boom, a mixed track with a whole bunch of headroom 🤷
@synthzizer3324
@synthzizer3324 6 ай бұрын
@@squeemlives that has nothing to do with mixing. Your approach will change.
@squeemlives
@squeemlives 6 ай бұрын
@@synthzizer3324 what about my approach doesn't make sense? I've been doing it for years and years at this point
@synthzizer3324
@synthzizer3324 6 ай бұрын
@squeemlives nothing to do with what's going on in the box. That's monitoring not mixing
@squeemlives
@squeemlives 6 ай бұрын
@@synthzizer3324 I don't think I've explained myself well then, it's okay!
@jimmyweaver5843
@jimmyweaver5843 6 ай бұрын
What you are saying makes a whole lot more sense than mixing through a limiter and then taking it off to send to mastering. This short makes no sense to me. Why would you mix through a limiter, unless you are going for that limited sound and then if you are you probably won’t want to take that off of the master because that’s the sound you wanted on your mix… 😅
@ClintBilliams
@ClintBilliams 18 күн бұрын
My Kick, 808, and Vocals usually the loudest part of the song and usually have them sit at -10db then I mix around that.
@ruk2023--
@ruk2023-- 18 күн бұрын
Exactly. I'm not sure what this video is trying to achieve other than virality.
@matrixate
@matrixate 7 ай бұрын
Uh, this was an old hack that someone else posted here on KZbin about 6 years ago and got a lot of slack because it causes latency, changes the tone of the mix, and necessitates rebalancing the mix when you take it off. The correct solution was to insert clip gain plugins on all the tracks and depending on the plugin, you can use one knob to lower them all simultaneously. I can't believe this guy's tips sometimes. I honestly have nothing against him but some of the videos he uploads are either missing information, or just made up stuff from older videos produced years ago and revived by him.
@PumpkinSeed17
@PumpkinSeed17 6 ай бұрын
Interesting but wouldn't you get more latency from using many plugins instead of one limiter?
@matrixate
@matrixate 6 ай бұрын
@@PumpkinSeed17 Clip gain on every plugin are linear functions. Essentially ZERO latency. You can add 1000 of them and there is no perceptual CPU load. This is already such old news. I hope everyone understands this. The limiter is a non linear function...well, a good one at least. They react differently to difference signal inputs. What most people styding this should do is take a class on actual audio engineering and quit listening to shorts on how to become one. I learned a lot studying all this formally. I suggest everyone do it too.
@PumpkinSeed17
@PumpkinSeed17 6 ай бұрын
@@matrixate Cool man, thanks for the insightful reply! I actually did some formal recording engineering training in 2004, but this wasn't covered. I wish I had the time to do more formal training, but I'll keep learning every chance I get. Cheers!
@jessejukuri5202
@jessejukuri5202 6 ай бұрын
Ok but can't you just put the clip gain in the master channel?
@matrixate
@matrixate 6 ай бұрын
​@@jessejukuri5202Most DAWs have clip gain on the master bus already. Just know, if you do adjust clip gain on the MB, the limiter will react differently if you use clip gain to lower ALL the tracks as opposed to just lowering the gain on INDIVIDUAL tracks. There's also another technical reason why to avoid that but that is a topic in signal processing which I'm not about to give a lesson on. So, the answer is yes and no...but mostly, "it depends." Look, I'm just following the recipes from master chefs and the recipes work. From there, you can make your own recipes. In this this industry, if it sounds good...then whatever you did worked. Just consider all the tips and remember the basics you've learned along the way. I do encourage everyone to actually study some audio engineering basics from a real textbook.
@GodsUnrulyFriends
@GodsUnrulyFriends 3 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@markmendozavano
@markmendozavano 4 ай бұрын
Even transparent limiters introduce color/saturation. You'll have headroom after you take it off but it's not gonna sound right, even if you raise your monitor levels. It's best to reference an unmixed track with -6db of headroom, raise your monitors so you can hear everything and just go from there and just keep an eye out on the fader once in a while. Like our forefathers did. lol...
@sluss9853
@sluss9853 5 ай бұрын
My hero❤
@ProShazzar
@ProShazzar 5 ай бұрын
Our hero
@synthzizer3324
@synthzizer3324 7 ай бұрын
Just mix without insert on master. If RMS is averaging slightly over in red bring fader down and bounce. If there are random peaks deal with then at tracks level. That's the way I work since floating point.
@HarveySummers
@HarveySummers 7 ай бұрын
Wise words Mr Streaky! Really enjoy your videos. This is a little trick I’ve employed for decades… I noticed your dialogue sounds distorted / clipped on this video though, ironically!
@derwienernuts
@derwienernuts Ай бұрын
As a great audio engineer taught me as my first lesson to begin recording. Red light bad!
@InYourDreams-Andia
@InYourDreams-Andia 6 ай бұрын
Great timing and brilliant trick. Gonna use it now 🤟
@studiodsr
@studiodsr 7 ай бұрын
At the start of every mix I group all the tracks and drop them 9db in level and clip gain down the really hot tracks. Never had a clipping issue since I started doing this, and the gain is easy to get back in the master stage
@conkyjoe8932
@conkyjoe8932 5 ай бұрын
Whoa my brother!!! I do the same exact thing...except instead of 9db off at the start, I go ahead and just do 10 haha. But same concept. And yup, I too have never had an issue once I started doing this (unless I'm just trying some stupid stuff for the sake of it possibly).
@hassanhaze
@hassanhaze Ай бұрын
Just output at -5db. Go into mastering with -5db head room.
@atticus999x
@atticus999x 3 ай бұрын
Damn this was a good idea. Save a lot of time in the long run turning tracks down individually later haha
@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn
@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn Ай бұрын
I've been doing it the other way round, putting the Loudmax limiter on the master bus with the threshold set at 0 and the output at -3.5!
@radiopete7290
@radiopete7290 22 күн бұрын
I used to work with-18db and that worked amazing
@sloopying
@sloopying 7 ай бұрын
always thought this was common knowledge but the past few producers i’ve worked with have let multiple channels clip from simply not placing a limiter 😭 thanks for informing people!
@MOSMASTERING
@MOSMASTERING 7 ай бұрын
Could always just flatten the faders and start again
@PureVoice_cz
@PureVoice_cz 6 ай бұрын
Simply genial 😅
@dreamshots_PIB
@dreamshots_PIB 3 ай бұрын
Important trick if you want to pull down your whole mix without touching the master fader or pulling down all your faders at once, both options would destroy the volume relationship between your single channels in your mix: *JUST USE VCA FADERS/CHANNELS* Just route every new track you open while working to a VCA (each channel on a single VCA, not the whole mix to one!) and you're good to go, if this option is available in your DAW i'd recommend to use it anyways bc it works the exact way like analoge consoles are working 🤓
@schoovaertssimon7904
@schoovaertssimon7904 6 ай бұрын
how about simply mixing properly from the start?
@brusecco
@brusecco 8 күн бұрын
then there would be no point of even releasing this video/short :-)
@semovian
@semovian 7 ай бұрын
Solid advice!! Going to do this on my next track that no one will ever hear!!! 😭
@EnoraRecords
@EnoraRecords 7 ай бұрын
That is what you fix at the master out Chanel with a limiter!!! 😅
@DjTwin305
@DjTwin305 6 ай бұрын
Awesome 🎛️
@i.g.806tx
@i.g.806tx Ай бұрын
This is what I’ve been doing for years now definitely something I wish I knew 20 yrs ago
@mjmongwai6883
@mjmongwai6883 3 ай бұрын
I put a trimmer at -9db on the mix bus and everything that’s going through it is a lot more subtle and quiet. Then I crank up my interface a bit. That’s how I work on all my productions
@DbiPro
@DbiPro 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@everyonexist
@everyonexist 9 сағат бұрын
Lately using just eq without plugs, build up tracks then bring the main eq down to -3 to -6 -PREXENTS
@calebwiedel
@calebwiedel 5 ай бұрын
Very good advice
@LinkbruhProd
@LinkbruhProd 7 ай бұрын
This is a great trick! I actually use a utility on the master to do the opposite. I do -6db and leave that on permanently. That way i have "extra" headroom.
@Bert_Fromarketin
@Bert_Fromarketin 7 ай бұрын
💯💯💯💯🔥
@supahotjelly
@supahotjelly 5 ай бұрын
you mean you do -6dB on master bus and turn interface's volume up right?
@LinkbruhProd
@LinkbruhProd 5 ай бұрын
@@supahotjelly -6db on the utility plug in
@kaidoorn
@kaidoorn 4 ай бұрын
What about gain staging? Can't you turn down the output of your vsti or use a gain/utility to lower the volume at the beginning?
@maruserumangaka
@maruserumangaka 5 ай бұрын
I work with limiter since day one (3years) bc I always heard mastering song my whole life like everybody. Don’t be afraid of limiter and clipper if u can hear it (with disto and clip) you can know if your too far/hard or not.
@saardean4481
@saardean4481 Ай бұрын
You can write some code which automatically rebalances your mixes after you worked hard hours on them
@LostInVoids
@LostInVoids 2 ай бұрын
I usually put a utility that has a default setting of -6 dB on each channel. This also gives me functionality over M/S processing and converting to mono if needed.
@DramaSydETV
@DramaSydETV 5 ай бұрын
🔥
@lukesamerson9600
@lukesamerson9600 6 ай бұрын
Appreciate this advice ,💯💯💯💯
@woutschoenmakers7373
@woutschoenmakers7373 Ай бұрын
in ableton we use utility tool for this with +6 db
@noamusic
@noamusic 4 ай бұрын
Assuming you don’t use any compression on the master bus because if you do and you take it off the mix will collapse. Better to pull the master fader up 6 db ❤
@KenTeel
@KenTeel 2 ай бұрын
Here's my tip: Don't try to make your recording the loudest. Go for quality (that means dynamics and enough headroom, AKA not going up to the yellow mark on every track), and on the master track output. In this regard, go for quality, not quantity (of volume.) and you won't have to worry about this problem of overdriving outputs. The volume wars exaserbates this problem.
@johnkeable5304
@johnkeable5304 7 ай бұрын
This is a great tip 👍
@AGsosa
@AGsosa 7 ай бұрын
i keep all volumes at 50% on my playback devices and use professional songs as a volume reference. i noticed a good mix/master can be turned all the way up with no distortion
@tobypitman
@tobypitman 6 ай бұрын
Here's a trick if this happens. Choose all your tracks in the mixer (omit the master bus). Right click on any channel name at the bottom and choose 'Create New VCA'. This assigns a VCA fader to all the selected tracks. You'll find it (VCA 1) at the far right in the mixer. Pull it down till you're not clipping. Similar idea to large format console VCA groups. Useful for grouping instruments in mixing too. You can right click the VCA name in the mixer and choose 'Create Track' to put it in the Arrange page and automate it as well. Obviously proper gain staging from the start is the best option. :)
@stevenjackson6360
@stevenjackson6360 13 күн бұрын
How about working like a professional and calibrating your monitors to 85dB with a -23 LUFS pink signal? Or if you like it really loud go for 98 dB. And on top of that, keep a vu/RMS meter in line to set your gain structure
@alexanderkritsek
@alexanderkritsek 6 ай бұрын
good tip , i often do this
@johnisrael5183
@johnisrael5183 7 ай бұрын
Nice Idea!!!!
@neuronist
@neuronist 5 ай бұрын
Good idea
@Studio-Xhoni
@Studio-Xhoni 4 ай бұрын
Latency to Instruments say Hi 😂😂😂
@un_reveur
@un_reveur 7 ай бұрын
Why not to start working quieter on -6db on master channel and -3db on other channels for example? 🤔
@gorillagorilla111
@gorillagorilla111 17 күн бұрын
“ but this one goes to 11 “
@jsalvatori
@jsalvatori Ай бұрын
just mix on an analogue console and set your gains correctly. Mix with your hands and ears, not your eyes. Record your mixdown at the correct level using the master fader.
@lightsoundstudio8856
@lightsoundstudio8856 20 күн бұрын
this is clearly a tip for people that have no idea what they're doing.
@Bert_Fromarketin
@Bert_Fromarketin 7 ай бұрын
I record RnB, Neo Soul, when mixing.. loud isnt necessarily what im aiming for, so i turn my channel faders down ( Control C.. adjust all same time) .. As usual i will try this technique for shyts and giggles....PEACE PROFESSOR STREAKY
@RealNuruMusic
@RealNuruMusic 3 ай бұрын
I turn up the master while making beats then drop it back down for exporting stems to mix in a diff daw. I usually start with my tracks -10-12db
@masbass1011
@masbass1011 5 ай бұрын
This great!
@dudeabsolutely8482
@dudeabsolutely8482 5 ай бұрын
Holy shit thank you!
@ImJordanHubbard-qg9qt
@ImJordanHubbard-qg9qt Ай бұрын
A better trick if you produce dance music is make sure your kick is peaking at no higher than -10db and by the end of the session your master channel will be at 0db but peaking at -6db
@justinkane290
@justinkane290 5 күн бұрын
Start your session with all faders at -12dB, good mixes require good planning and forethought.
@corezerostudio
@corezerostudio 5 ай бұрын
Nice!
@FairyTalesInYoghourt
@FairyTalesInYoghourt Ай бұрын
Ho yeah that sacred headroom for the mastering engineer, like he's not able to just... turn down the input volume.
@alessandrosummer
@alessandrosummer 7 ай бұрын
Why not using a gain plugin? It’ll do the same thing except it’ll not interfere with your drum transients
@capitalcrud9062
@capitalcrud9062 7 ай бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing
@Relaxicity
@Relaxicity 4 ай бұрын
Right, or even better, just start with lower mixers. If you keep overloading channels, you just keep starting way too loud. Learn to mix, instead of applying questionable "tricks".
@alessandrosummer
@alessandrosummer 4 ай бұрын
@@Relaxicity absolutely! The mix should not be clipping at any time
@anatolianINVASION
@anatolianINVASION 6 ай бұрын
This db trick works very well because you don’t push your monitor interface too much (less volume hiss)
@flowmerlin
@flowmerlin 6 ай бұрын
I came across a video featuring Dave Pensado where he mentioned that not leaving room for mastering is actually okay.
@probiogr3863
@probiogr3863 6 ай бұрын
Yeah but Zimmer Mixes with -80db rms headroom in total lol
@CodyJacobCamacho
@CodyJacobCamacho Ай бұрын
I could be wrong but what about using your ears to listen for that clipping, distortion smashed sound rather than relying on the meter. I’ve been at like +2db or even +3db and it sounds fine. Plus once I bounce all the tracks into one audio file and I drag it into a new mastering session, I lose like 3-4db anyways…
@NewWorldOchestra
@NewWorldOchestra 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this great tip.
@Bek-bl2ed
@Bek-bl2ed 6 ай бұрын
Ha lol! I like it! Not hating! Good work around for the inexperienced for sure and even more !
@1176hambone
@1176hambone Ай бұрын
Before anything, I trim inputs or clip gain down the tracks so each channel meter stays in "the green" (Logic Pro). Easy peazy. I also trim certain tracks that are quieter in the mix so the fader is in the sweet spot with more resolution, rather than having the fader very low.
@marcushanlin
@marcushanlin 4 күн бұрын
Does not matter anymore when mixing in the box. Mainly matters if using analog emulated plugins.
@dennis5806
@dennis5806 17 күн бұрын
i can see this being useful for production for example to avoid clipping and leaving headroom for vocals, but would this be any good for mixing ? cause mixing through a limiter will have an effect sonically, be it minimal even with the most transparent settings/parameters so when you bypass it your mix will change. curious abt this though
@rickyalan1227
@rickyalan1227 2 ай бұрын
Sometimes this kind of clipping can make tracks and busses sound better, then you can just record separately and add to taste. If you always follow "rules" you could miss a lot of "happy accidents".
@tylerpatton2183
@tylerpatton2183 6 ай бұрын
Turn your tracks down -10 to -18 db from the start with a gain effect. Then use a soft clipper or limiter each auxiliary group and maybe even one of the final mix bus
@LeakBanga
@LeakBanga 7 ай бұрын
Once you red on you master channel just got to your mix and gain stage. You mix bus aux should correlate to the mix bus
@fakeman6542
@fakeman6542 2 күн бұрын
Or just add a gain plugin at the start of your mix bus? and don't touch your mix bus chain until you're happy with the level?
@GregCardonaMusic
@GregCardonaMusic 5 ай бұрын
my teacher mentioned this, it is actually very important.
@samranieri9004
@samranieri9004 3 күн бұрын
How about working quieter to start with?
@depachorra
@depachorra 5 ай бұрын
it really doesn't matter if the red goes through, The -6db trick has remained in the past or in music with a lot of non-commercial dynamics
@buenjyofficial
@buenjyofficial 6 ай бұрын
use vca channels and have proper routings. you can lower it all down easy without messing up the mix or influencing the tone
@Rokosbasil
@Rokosbasil 3 ай бұрын
Gain staging should be one of the first things you are competent with.
@Yhoda.PsyTrakked
@Yhoda.PsyTrakked 5 ай бұрын
I just start with all my channels at -18db and peak (not RMS) around -4-6 bd, my RMS is around -8 to -12 before mastering! My tip is to make a template so when you start i new project its allready done
2 ай бұрын
I’m a bit confused… is Cubase the only DAW that has a gain knob for every channel? If your mix is a little hot, just set the gain on the master channel at -6dB or -12dB or whatever. Actually even without a dedicated gain knob, you can use any plugin with a trim in it to do the trick. The internal resolution is 64bits. You could put a 60dB pad if you wanted, it wouldn’t do much harm :)
@bigdoggetom6549
@bigdoggetom6549 5 ай бұрын
When i first started making music, i used to slap a basic Ozone mastering preset on. It was definitely not right, but it definitely stopped me pushing it too hard. I didn't realise that until now -i think this might be a good tip cheers
@LoserDub
@LoserDub 6 ай бұрын
What does the limiter do again? Jk do you have lessons or anything, ive gotten good mixes but how is a total mystery
@DevanBrownProductions
@DevanBrownProductions 5 ай бұрын
🌊🌊🌊
@the95s
@the95s 7 ай бұрын
Turn your monitors up and mix every channel around -18 DBFS and you won't clip 👍
@taitimoproductions4801
@taitimoproductions4801 6 ай бұрын
Wha plugin do you use to know you got -18DBFS?
@the95s
@the95s 6 ай бұрын
@taitimoproductions4801 you can use the the volume meter on your strip to adjust level. After recording between plugins make sure you have consistent level with the -18 to -12 range and then adjust your faders.
@DarkGloComics
@DarkGloComics 6 ай бұрын
@@the95s You forgot -- they first need to know what a mixer is and how it works. 😂
@kikedrum77
@kikedrum77 5 ай бұрын
@@taitimoproductions4801 VU Meters Plugins..
@Joborges10
@Joborges10 5 ай бұрын
That
@mickydizzal1
@mickydizzal1 6 ай бұрын
I always drop Kick to -12 and work from there Once track is finished - il push everything into the limiter
@Zarabozo
@Zarabozo 3 ай бұрын
This is as easy as putting your master fader to the max from the beginning, effectively adding 12 dB without any plugin.
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