The A-B-C Zones of Pin to PAP Layouts -

It's #MoMonday!
Mo takes a viewer question about how far you have to move the Pin to PAP distance in order to see a difference in ball reaction. He breaks it down brilliantly using his "A-B-C Zones". This, along with the "Low Flare Zone" are what you need to know about what these Pin to PAP locations do. Most importanly, learn about the zone TO AVOID AT ALL COSTS which is eloquently referred to as "Twitch City".
Education. It's all part of the #RadicalRevolution!

[@joangermano8383]

RIP MO

[@loryli]

Thanks Mo for sharing your knowledge. I’ve used your videos to review all of my layouts and I have had great recent success at local tournaments. I carefully matched my layouts and surfaces to maximize my Arsenal’s potential. I look forward to the next one. Enjoy your day.

[@johnvesterjr.ytchannel8533]

True bowling Gem! Thank you so much. This has given me the needed knowledge to understand my layouts and try different ones.

[@marym470]

Great info Love your videos.

[@brianlevandowski3167]

ABC, Angular, Benchmark, Control

[@bowlingknightzgarageshop7593]

Thanks Mo!

[@stellaraudioaz]

That is super helpful.

[@exitar1]

Thanks!

[@scotturban54]

Guy is a genius

[@russellgilbert3453]

Dat Mo is smart!

[@brianf7405]

So here’s an “odd” one...I recently drilled an Ebonite Destiny Solid at 2” from my PAP. It out hooks every ball I have currently. I’m 2-handed, high track (clips middle finger) and around 16-17 mph off my hand. Def rev dominant. I did put a balance hole in it and am considering plugging that hole as I feel it may have counter-acted the low flare layout by introducing diff back into the ball. Thoughts?

[@robertgraves7911]

Thank you for the information that you continue to share with us bowlers every week. Just wondering would you consider drilling up a few pieces with the various PAP Zones and possibly use throwbot or maybe a staffer so that we get to visually see the differences? Granted do to the many varieties of bowling styles and PAP’s the ball motions will differ however it could provide us something visually to reference to go along with the numbers. I’m extremely interested in the information but honestly don’t have an abundance of equipment to experiment with.

[@RadicalBowling]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZO4ZoWZosaVbqc That will get you an idea of the layout differences and how they change the roll and axis migration path. Not exactly the same as the ABC's but you'll get an idea.

[@christopherascherl2411]

Is this true for symmetric (as close to symmetric as a no thumb layout would be) and well as asymmetric balls?

[@AKstryker23]

I need some advice on a layout for a pearl asymm im around 500 rev rate, 4 1/2 over by a 1/2 up, pattern im needing help with is 43ft but only 20 mils im not getting much reaction out of my other equipment Most of my stuff is around 3.5-4 inch pin distances should i try longer pin distances?

[@jabilda]

Thanks. Can you drill the same ball in the 4 zones and record the same bowler throwing it? Then match the bowler's delivery to the best drilling pattern for them?

[@RadicalBowling]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZO4ZoWZosaVbqc Check out this video and plenty of the other videos we have posted on past #MoMonday episodes. Many videos where Mo is using Marcus recently show a few different layouts.

[@levihayes5365]

Just curious on urethane what should those normally be? .75-2.25?

[@shutta300_6]

Does the same pin to pap measurements apply to symmetrical balls also? I know they flare different

[@Highway69theoriginal]

If you didn’t already get an answer to this question, the answer is "no". Symmetrical cored balls use different measurements to control the flair potential.

[@NarmanSazali]

interesting...

[@SuperHonkyPodcast]

1:40 So what do these lines represent? When you say "So if I put that there" do you mean if you drill the hole at 4 1/4 inches, or 5 inches or WHAT is it that you're referring to when you say "if I put that there". I just need to know! I'm so close to figuring this all out lol

[@jonathanleonard906]

This is referring to the distance between the pin and the positive axis point. You wouldn’t actually drill there

[@dj80d6]

So I’m right handed and I throw left to right what kinda of layout should I be looking for.

[@marshalcraft]

Think A from abc region, that walter ray used, that he said?

[@michaelmorgan5546]

What is your thought of laying out the Results with a 45X4.5X45 for a left hander?

[@marlowhuff5975]

Is this the same for symmetrical balls? Last question what are the measurements for the no “twitch” zone

[@KennyGrinols]

2.5 - 3.5 is the 'Twitch Zone'. However, I have 2 Symmetrical Balls that Mo layed out for me, one with a 3" pin and one with 3 1/4" pin, and they work wonders. So your mileage may vary.

[@Ag-qp6rl]

@radicalbowling I drill 95% of My stuff 5.5 from pap and it doesn't slowdown hmm

[@arandomcommenter7051]

Use a stronger pin to pap under 5 inches and add some surface. Flare rings will actually open up rather than stacking on top of themself like it does with the long pins. Start somewhere in the stronger end of the “B” zone and go from there

[@Ag-qp6rl]

@@arandomcommenter7051 i was being well a smart ass /troll when I posted that .

[@davejustice7464]

Mo what does flare mean just learning

[@Nick.McIntyre]

another way of saying hook

[@brianwaite854]

More flare does not necessarily mean more hook. There can actually be a point where increased flare can diminish hook. Flare is a measure of the variation of the track on the bowling ball. The distance between the first oil ring in the track area and the last ring is referred to as the amount of “flare”. Most manufacturers list potential flare in their specs.

[@Bigandbeardedjb]

Why would zone “a” not be good on the left?

[@michaellopour7409]

I think it's because the break point is less "beat up" so the reaction can be sharp without the ball causing it to happen? I'm not a lefty!

[@CurtisL8.3066]

Lefties get sharper ball reaction but less miss room because track doesn’t develop like the right side, so it can feel ‘squirty’ or too sharp off the end of the pattern. Lefties tend to like to play straighter and favor more blended reactions to control the breakpoint. We rarely need to make zone moves to chase head oil, so the use of higher rg, cleaner equipment is rarely needed.

[@TerryBollea1]

You nevershowedem on the lane!!

[@TerryBollea1]

What about high flare?

[@peterbrown329]

A B and C are the higher flare layouts...

[@TerryBollea1]

@@peterbrown329 he said those are for low flare players. I think he ment to say high and low tracks, not flare.

[@joshuapaugh8271]

I thought 3 3/8 pin to pap was max flare but in this video you have it in the twitch zone why is that.

[@Highway69theoriginal]

That 3 3/8 distance is for a symmetrical cored ball.

[@joshuapaugh8271]

@@Highway69theoriginal what does the symmetry of the core have to do with it

[@Highway69theoriginal]

@@joshuapaugh8271 The Zing in the video is an asymmetrical ball. On asymmetricals the pin to pap distance for maximum flare is between 2 3/4" and 6 1/4".

[@baliktad8]

@@joshuapaugh8271 also the longer the pin to pap distance the shorter the hook phase.

[@Beny19471]

Mo pinel