The Aircraft of the future?! MAVERIC

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Mentour Pilot

Mentour Pilot

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@kkarllwt
@kkarllwt 4 жыл бұрын
I would build a big cargo aircraft to start. Most cargo doesn't need pressure. ( the center could be pressurized . an inner tube ) cargo doesn't need emergency exits, sound padding. toilets or galleys. cargo doesn't get sick.
@solarissv777
@solarissv777 4 жыл бұрын
Actually this would be perfect cargo plane design. Currently, the majority of air cargo are Light packages, that require lots of volume, if put together. And this design provides that volume. With just 2 powerfull engines, like GE9X such plane would surpass C5 and AN-124, with 3, even AN-225, if provided with similar wingspan, while being much more fuel and volume efficient. Also, there wouln't be a need to redesign airport boarding gates , moreover, because engines are put on top, this plane would be able to "kneel", like military cargo planes , thus signifficantly simplifying loading/unloading the cargo.
@pricelessppp
@pricelessppp 4 жыл бұрын
Agree & most passenger BWB’s wouldn’t be economical hence the 747/A380/Concorde SST.
@Optimus-Prime-Rib
@Optimus-Prime-Rib Жыл бұрын
Yup but which of the big 2 has the guts to build something like this SOLELY for the cargo market….?
@erikz1337
@erikz1337 4 жыл бұрын
We need to think outside of the box. . to build a flying box 🙂
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!
@stevewausa
@stevewausa 4 жыл бұрын
Call it the Airbus 240dl
@WOTArtyNoobs
@WOTArtyNoobs 4 жыл бұрын
Call it the Airbus Schrödinger. You cannot tell if the passengers are alive or dead if they have to do an emergency exit!
@RandomTorok
@RandomTorok 4 жыл бұрын
i'm imagining an emergency water landing, be like skipping stones at the beach. LOL
@colignynel2365
@colignynel2365 4 жыл бұрын
I think this is exactly right - much safer to land on the vast oceans safely - no engines tearing into the water - creating tremendous drag - breaking the aircraft apart
@ryaeon9793
@ryaeon9793 4 жыл бұрын
@@colignynel2365 yeah unfortunately the sea is not calm as river.. they got wave..
@andraslibal
@andraslibal 4 жыл бұрын
Far better than breaking at impact.
@FlyLeah
@FlyLeah 4 жыл бұрын
It could potentially float more than a conventional aircraft due to its bowl like shape
@Not.Your.Business
@Not.Your.Business 4 жыл бұрын
fun for the whole family!
@adamsnyder5701
@adamsnyder5701 4 жыл бұрын
This will easily make my top 5 Mentour videos! Very well executed! You’ve let us see the balance between cost effectiveness within the airlines vs passenger comfort, as well as various upgrades that need to be made before this all happens. That B2 is a sight to behold and really embraces the progression of aviation, which I very much look forward to in my aviation career. Very intriguing. Definitely a possibility for the future! P.S... glad to see you’re feeling much better 😄
@chriswall27
@chriswall27 4 жыл бұрын
I do have to admit I watch all the videos on concepts like this and to hear views from a professional like yourself is fascinating, please do more!
@Calliopa_22
@Calliopa_22 4 жыл бұрын
I would imagine that if the engines were mounted above the wing, you would be able to attach a large loading tube to the rear of the cabin/wing. It would make embarking and disembarking much faster (it would also look really cool!).
@SueBobChicVid
@SueBobChicVid 4 жыл бұрын
15:31 You have a magic dog!
@kenmore01
@kenmore01 4 жыл бұрын
He beamed up! lol
@chadportenga7858
@chadportenga7858 4 жыл бұрын
10:15 Thanks for the explanation about VR, Simulators, and the motion sickness resulting from them. I remember getting nauseous at Disney World on a simulator and never knew why it happened so fast. I rarely got sick on rides, but the simulator kicked me in the gut!
@ThomasJoshua
@ThomasJoshua 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Thanks again! Very interesting insight, and all the more inspiring to make more of my own videos! Good luck!
@williamswenson5315
@williamswenson5315 4 жыл бұрын
It is of particular interest to me that you touched on the conflicting perceptions between the visual and balance systems of the body that would be experienced when flying in this type of aircraft. This point is overlooked in every other discussion about blended body aircraft that I've ever listened to. You also pointed to the advantages of moving the high bypass turbofans to the "DC-10" position on the aircraft. A very informative and concise video; thanks. W
@karlp8484
@karlp8484 4 жыл бұрын
The weight/volume/drag ratios of the blended wing blows current designs out of the window. On the evacuation side, large doors/ramps can be installed in the very rear of the plane (a good location for egress anyway) which is currently not an option on planes. Studies have actually found the effects of being further away from the CoG on a blended wing design is pretty trivial. he way they turn has more of a pendulum effect (vertical G load) and has less yaw than a conventional plane.
@ericoschmitt
@ericoschmitt 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with exits at the rear is that they will be under the engine, possibly burning, and that the rear of the fuselage is thinner and where the control surfaces are. Sounds unlikely to me. Having doors at the leading edges and maybe some emergency hatches at the ceiling and floor sounds more likely.
@karlp8484
@karlp8484 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericoschmitt Fires tend to burn upwards. Today the engines are on the sides close to the fuselage where the doors and emergency exits are, is that better?
@ericoschmitt
@ericoschmitt 3 жыл бұрын
@@karlp8484 they are at a decent distance, so not a problem. And fuselage offers enough height to walk, while the trailing edge of a flying wing will taper to zero basically, besides possibly having control surfaces, so no place for a door.
@manvikgoyal9619
@manvikgoyal9619 4 жыл бұрын
Pls make a video on how to flare aircraft properly while landing
@lolshark99b49
@lolshark99b49 4 жыл бұрын
Been seeing blended wing airliners touted as "the future" for 30 years...
@jwenting
@jwenting 4 жыл бұрын
yup. Boeing flew their concept in 2007, and the idea has been in existence since before the end of WW1. It's just never gained traction.
@lexatwo
@lexatwo 4 жыл бұрын
Huh, that's nuclear fusion's fault - it had been like "coming in 30 years" for quite a while by now. Airliners are simply waiting for fusion to happen and will then follow the train :-D.
@w8stral
@w8stral 4 жыл бұрын
@@jwenting Not 2007. WAY before that. That was NASA dicking around. The deal breaker was the limitation of emergency exit viability. You have the front and only the front as viable. NOT how the pilot mentioned in this video.
@jwenting
@jwenting 4 жыл бұрын
@@w8stral Boeing's concept flew in 2007. There were various other ideas before that, but none that looked like this and were intended to lead to an airliner class vehicle.
@w8stral
@w8stral 4 жыл бұрын
@@jwenting Well since, I was sitting in a mock up in the 1990's.... and part of the design where we were trying to get through the issues of the FAR's... Grow up child. The world did not start in the 2000's.
@gmoops8986
@gmoops8986 4 жыл бұрын
This seems like a cool concept. The image flashed a few times of passenger seating, looks more like a cocktail lounge. Fat chance of that as a reality.
@beakytwitch7905
@beakytwitch7905 4 жыл бұрын
Borrow from Thunderbird II, and preload the passengers into a pod...
@jazldazl9193
@jazldazl9193 2 жыл бұрын
@@beakytwitch7905 Pod could be self contained lifeboat with emergency parachute for when the AI gets homicidal
@tvflight7858
@tvflight7858 4 жыл бұрын
13:40 Ryanair: I'll take your entire stock!
@alexogle8950
@alexogle8950 4 жыл бұрын
"...especially now with the passengers becoming more spread out..." Sorry, which airline is this?
@excitedbox5705
@excitedbox5705 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, it seems they keep craming us tighter and tighter. A few years ago they were talking about standing room only tickets for short flights. I guess with fold away seats for landing and take off.
@KabukeeJo
@KabukeeJo 4 жыл бұрын
You are correct. Airbus could build a plane 1 mile wide and the airline will cram as many seats into that space as they can!
@pihi42
@pihi42 4 жыл бұрын
Remember that plane will still have weight limitations, which could lead to interesting result that they will be unable to pack us as sardines. This could REALLY be a game changer.
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 4 жыл бұрын
@@excitedbox5705 They have actually been talking about having seats which will mean you will be almost standing. during takeoff and landing. Sounds fun.
@MoarPye
@MoarPye 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they always present these concepts with such spacious, luxurious interior layouts, but then the reality turns out to be just more sardine-seating... As always it's gonna come down to each airline's culture, and whether the cabin crew treat you like a guest or a burden.
@junglecat4480
@junglecat4480 4 жыл бұрын
15:30 the dog just disappear :'(
@MrPomelo555
@MrPomelo555 4 жыл бұрын
NordVPN made Patxi disappear because Patxi yawned when NordVPN’s logo appeared at the beginning of the video!!
@jean-claudevijt4695
@jean-claudevijt4695 4 жыл бұрын
😱 The dog is alien 👽👽👽
@Lozzie74
@Lozzie74 4 жыл бұрын
It died
@k3n_ng
@k3n_ng 4 жыл бұрын
Teleport is here in 2020.
@jjeherrera
@jjeherrera 4 жыл бұрын
Magic!
@Mag0Lag
@Mag0Lag 4 жыл бұрын
Given the mentioned issues related to fitting large turbofans to low-wing airliners, why aren't Boeing et al coming up with some high-set wing designs?
@markpell8979
@markpell8979 2 жыл бұрын
They have. Boeing C-141 Starlifter was a widely used jet high-wing military transport several decades ago and the current Boeing C-17 military transport is a kind of updated version of the type with a wider fuselage, higher capacity and much greater maneuvering and short/rough field capabilities. I've wondered why they have not applied some of these attributes to a commercial aircraft. Witness also other high-wing military transports such as Lockheed C-5 and the venerable but still in use Lockheed C-130 Hercules. Then there is the modern EADS/Airbus A400 which is a high-performance turboprop similar to C-130 in basic configuration but with much higher performance.
@cmulder002
@cmulder002 4 жыл бұрын
Search for "KLM" and "Future plane" and you end up with many articles about another program exploring the lifting body/ delta/ nurflugel conecpt. They also made mock up interiors for testing how people would like it inside.
@fhuber7507
@fhuber7507 4 жыл бұрын
Studies done on the lifting body aircraft have resulted in finding that people don't like being in the massively wide passenger cabin. So these might be useful for cargo but not for passenger service.
@MoraFermi
@MoraFermi 4 жыл бұрын
Can you point to these studies? I can't imagine *why* somebody might choose a cramped tube over a wide rectangle.
@jebise1126
@jebise1126 4 жыл бұрын
not body but the lack of windows. but doesnt matter if people will get cheaper flights they will like it anyway besides with lights and movies they wont even notice... other thing is cost of such aircraft
@LugnutsK
@LugnutsK 4 жыл бұрын
Passengers also don't like being in tiny cramped seats with no legroom. When are we going to tell the airlines that their current layouts aren't gonna work?
@karlp8484
@karlp8484 4 жыл бұрын
I've never seen this commented on before. I question your sources.
@jebise1126
@jebise1126 4 жыл бұрын
@@karlp8484 i saw it commented before...
@Live.Vibe.Lasers
@Live.Vibe.Lasers 4 жыл бұрын
So when I was at Kennedy Space Center as a kid..the F16 simulator attraction was a small hydraulic platform probably not unlike the flight sims. Well something malfunctioned that day and what I was seeing on the screen did NOT match the accelerations I was feeling and..I got very sick. I hit the "I'm sick button", the door popped OPEN in the middle of some pretty rapid movement of the platform, and I think my dad reached over the "attendant" and hit the ESTOP on the attendants panel and grabbed me out. That attraction was closed for maintenance for the rest of that day.
@aviatrivi
@aviatrivi 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video with very clear, easy to understand explanation of the pros and cons of MAVERIC type aircraft in the future of commercial aviation.
@Rekuzan
@Rekuzan 4 жыл бұрын
He's absolutely right in that the problem with virtual windows is the lag time causing nausea can easily be fixed w/ more technical solutions; IE: Fiber-optics coupled w/ rad hardened electronics.
@purplealice
@purplealice 4 жыл бұрын
I remember the excitement that greeted the design of the 747 - "the Aluminum Overcast", which was based on research about *lifting bodies* (the bulge on the top of the fuselage adds lift).
@SheepInACart
@SheepInACart 4 жыл бұрын
The bulge is more about distribution of drag for aerodynamic efficiency than it is about lift. You want a nice even inverse bell curve of resistance along your airframe, and traditional designs failed badly at doing this, with extremely little of the drag before the wings/engines, then huge drag of the wings and engines, then low drag again until sudden spike due to tail/rear control surfaces. The 747 not only added they hump (which they would later extend), it moves the engines forwards of the wings leading edge, moves the wing cord forwards dramatically forwards and rakes the wings drastically backwards compared to earlier designs, and tapered the fuselage extending towards the tail much more drastically.
@purplealice
@purplealice 4 жыл бұрын
@@SheepInACart That's why so many of the early jet fighter planes were "wasp-waisted" like a classic Coca-cola bottle, and there was a lot of fiddling about with the placement of the swept wings.
@w8stral
@w8stral 4 жыл бұрын
@@SheepInACart Not true at all. The bulge is 100% for the 747 to be a cargo airplane allowing front to open. The bulge ADDS drag. LOTS of drag.
@whattheheckisshaddoing
@whattheheckisshaddoing 4 жыл бұрын
15:29 Where did your dog go??? Are you a wizard?
@wkdravenna
@wkdravenna 4 жыл бұрын
Just a glitch in the matrix.
@cancelanime1507
@cancelanime1507 4 жыл бұрын
wkdravenna lmao
@Lozzie74
@Lozzie74 4 жыл бұрын
It was licking the couch shortly beforehand. That’s not allowed in my house and I’m sure it’s not allowed in Mentour’s house
@RichardMigneron
@RichardMigneron 4 жыл бұрын
Why don't they start with a cargo version ? No problems with people related issues ...
@MultiSparkyMarky
@MultiSparkyMarky 4 жыл бұрын
If you have to make an emergency landing in water then the engines won’t hit the water first so much safer
@jdriley24
@jdriley24 4 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a Popular Science article back in the 90s about blended wing commercial aircraft, it was very positive that in the next decade we'd have those planes everywhere.
@copuis
@copuis 4 жыл бұрын
another BIG bonus with the engines being on top is noise, those living near an airport wont see (or hear) any major change, however those living near a flight path, this will make a massive difference!!
@AndrewSienx
@AndrewSienx 4 жыл бұрын
One quite a big issue is plane versioning. Now it is easy to offer the same plane with different capacities - e.g. A319, A320, A321. Just make the tube longer or shorter. With the new shape, it is not so easy. But we are ingenious, we, humans :).
@renerpho
@renerpho 4 жыл бұрын
Another issue with providing live video footage to passengers is that you have to think about what to show them, and when. If I recall correctly, it was American Airlines who used to show passengers on DC-10's a live view during take-off. This was abolished after a DC-10 crashed shortly after take-off, because the video view arguably caused distress to passengers who would have been able to follow the progress of the crash.
@tomgruitt6563
@tomgruitt6563 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you’re feeling better.
@TheSwanlake2009
@TheSwanlake2009 4 жыл бұрын
it makes a lot of sense to go full wing flying. you have more lift with that and that equals fuel effeciency. plus you utilize more aircraft space too.
@MisterIvyMike
@MisterIvyMike 4 жыл бұрын
08:50 This gives everyone the possiblity to fly in a "vomit comet". Enjoy it... 😂
@NomenNescio99
@NomenNescio99 4 жыл бұрын
An update about the 737 MAX would be interesting.
@TheDMTLover
@TheDMTLover 4 жыл бұрын
How about ionizing the hull ? Getting ride of drag. Is that too much thinking outside the box or just standing on the ridge of the box. Is riding above the stratosphere (troposphere) is thinkable ? I wonder if there is a Jet Stream to ride there.
@James-oo1yq
@James-oo1yq 4 жыл бұрын
Will you be putting out a video discussing the FOD found in stored 737 Max?
@marks6663
@marks6663 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot the main reason no manufacturer will make this: You can't have different lengths. With a tube aircraft, you simply insert a plug section and voila, you have a different model. But with a fuselage which has an infinitely variable cross section, that is impossible. Manufacturers want the ability to sell different lengths of the same plane. The engine on top is also a no go for the airlines. Getting access for maintenance personnel to the No 2 engine was a challenge on the DC-10 and L-1011. It adds to the cost of maintenance. That is also one reason why the rear mounted engines like the DC-9 and 727 have also disappeared in favor of underwing engines like the A220 and the E series from Embraer. Airlines told the manufacturers to put the engines under the wings for easy access. Another problem is emergency exits. With a blended wing design, the ratio of seats to doors becomes far too lopsided especially as the plane gets bigger. The number of doors is a function of only one dimension, the length. The number of seats is mostly a function of one dimension in a tube design. But the number of seats in a blended wing is a function of two dimensions. It would become impossible to evacuate everybody out in 90 seconds with half the doors working. The people in the middle would be too far away from the nearest exit and since the middle would contain the most seats, you would have the bulk not getting out in time.
@gpaull2
@gpaull2 4 жыл бұрын
Engines above is one of the biggest drawbacks. When manufacturers tried high mounted engines in the past (727 for example), the operators quickly realized that maintenance became a nightmare.
@sorenweisshartmann
@sorenweisshartmann 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for yet another good video. :)
@MCH106
@MCH106 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't putting the engines up there increase the likelihood of compressor stall at moderate alpha?
@MartinCHorowitz
@MartinCHorowitz 4 жыл бұрын
The Boeing/NASA BWB test aircraft had issues with body boundary air intefrering with engine intake
@SF-li9kh
@SF-li9kh 4 жыл бұрын
Why do good questions like this get no attention?
@nikobelic4251
@nikobelic4251 4 жыл бұрын
S F don’t know man but that’s how incidents happen,
@lukeorlando4814
@lukeorlando4814 4 жыл бұрын
My first thought when I saw the design. And I don’t know anything mentoring pilot hasn’t previously said so I’m surprised he didn’t touch on it
@w8stral
@w8stral 4 жыл бұрын
Engines on top, DECREASE air pressure at throat of engine making them work harder = LOWER efficiency. Differential pressure also creates differential loading on fan blades = BAD for reliability. Then add maintenance nightmare as cannot access them.
@sgnz2000
@sgnz2000 4 жыл бұрын
The ability to mount even higher bypass-ratio engines than we have now could be achieved by mounting engines in different locations on the traditional tube-with-wings architecture. Though won't get aerodynamic benefit of the flying wing, perhaps we will see interim tube-with-wings designs in the nearer-term future with over-wing engines, or return to the idea of tail-mounted engines, or high-mounted wings with engines underneath.
@bruceparr1678
@bruceparr1678 4 жыл бұрын
That engine placement might have problems at high angle of attack. That area would have the engine inlets operating in a turbulent low pressure area.
@jaroslavsevcik3421
@jaroslavsevcik3421 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is similar to rear-placed engines. Probably worse.
@bobbler42
@bobbler42 2 жыл бұрын
14:00 given that early concepts always promise luxury and actual airlines invariably ask for as many passengers as can be squeezed in, I wouldn’t hold your breath.
@P3x310
@P3x310 4 жыл бұрын
Has everyone already forgotten about the Boeing X-48 design? It's more than a decade old so I wouldn't exactly call this a radical new design. I think I have seen it mentioned somewhere that the Airbus design were actually inspired by this plane and was trying to learn from it. I would like to believe that, at the very least...
@GerhardReinig
@GerhardReinig 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for good concept explanation 👍
@Akula114
@Akula114 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting... btw, the talk about cameras feeding a virtual window display made me think again. Why aren't there already cameras so they don't have to ask the flight crew if the right-wing is still on or the left side is still leaking enormous quantities of fuel? Technology and the minimal extra weight would be more than worth the investment. Next, of course, comes the idea of those cameras feeding a flight Data recorder... I would think aircraft safety would overrule (I Just can't say "trump") concerns about crew privacy. Thanks, as always, for another great - and always improving Mentour Video! (Loved the second camera!)
@jjeherrera
@jjeherrera 4 жыл бұрын
I still remember when flight attendants used to draw the route on a chart and put a pin where we were. In Austrian Airlines there's a channel here you can actually see what the pilots are seeing, including the landing.
@markiliff
@markiliff 4 жыл бұрын
Principal difference between A318 & A321 is the length of the tube. What's the stretch/shrink potential for a blended fuselage?
@arlendavis
@arlendavis 4 жыл бұрын
Another problem I saw when I first saw pictures of this design was when the plane initiated a banked. On one side the passengers would experience an increase in downward Gs and on the other side a decrease in downward Gs. If those on the decreasing side were not in their seats and belted in they could begin to float off their seats or the floor. It would be very difficult to keep ones balance.
@SirAdde007
@SirAdde007 4 жыл бұрын
You actually forgot to credit Horten brothers. Who created first modern flying wing. Great engineering! RIP guys
@terryrogers6232
@terryrogers6232 4 жыл бұрын
Of course the designers of the old configurations respond using the very same materials and other technologies that enable blended body design. If composites enable a blended body, it also makes the old cylinder lighter. If fore-aft pitch control adds drag with the old design but not so much with blended wing, then they begin to aggressively manage balance in the old design perhaps using the same Hi Def screens in the center to make it more comfortable over the lift+weight centers. Ultimately, like submarines, you can 'smash' two cylinders together going half way blended, wings redesigned and included (luggage doesn't care about seating so it can go in the 'skinny' blended part) so that the new concept ends up modifying the old for piecemeal topology upgrade. An example of this old vs new competition is vacuum tubes vs transistors in the 50s/60s. Tubes actually made it to integrated circuits sooner than transistors (compactrons)...not by much of course. But that delayed full uptake of transistors. So I would imagine we see blended wing concepts flying but later than one would imagine. I have often wondered why sales teams even bother to fly (except one person with the demos) with most of the team in virtual reality (and that worked when we were forced to do it even years ago). So a new aircraft topology could get competition from 'left field'...virtual reality and 5G. At least for business travel...
@bearcubdaycare
@bearcubdaycare 4 жыл бұрын
I would think that BWB could be viable for cargo earlier than for passengers. (Heck, I wouldn't put it past Amazon to use drone-planes the size of that prototype to deliver packages. ;-). With all the shipping for online purchases, I would think that efficiency could start to matter a fair bit.
@heavyDriver320
@heavyDriver320 4 жыл бұрын
Much waited one sir!!
@lukeorlando4814
@lukeorlando4814 4 жыл бұрын
Haha I loved the “seatbelt” notice. Very clever
@thiagor.ribeiro6787
@thiagor.ribeiro6787 4 жыл бұрын
Nice.. I hope that this generation come just in two or three decades because I prefer the current concept and I want to retire flying a Boeing 777X.
@colingrant321
@colingrant321 4 жыл бұрын
Come and pick me up in Australia. I love this topic. You, I, and your dogs can talk about this for days. Will your company let you borrow a 737 for this purpose :) My poor attempt at comedy over. I think you touched on some important points such as, will the passengers like this; Structural integrity for pressurisation. High bypass engines above body; thrust line with respect to centre of lift & drag. "Super stall" and flaming out engines for same reasons. I'd almost bet my left foot that passenger aircraft in 10 or 20 years will not look like some of the concept sketches floating around today.
@JoshuaRichards2010
@JoshuaRichards2010 4 жыл бұрын
Emergency exits can't be underneath or ditching in the water is an automatic loss of all passengers and crew (unless it's waterproof).
@prasakmanitou4925
@prasakmanitou4925 4 жыл бұрын
Half on the bottom, half on the top... and ditching might be easier, no engines and triangle is much more stronger shape :)
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, like I said, there are some challenges that needs to be looked into. The 90 second rule needs to be followed.
@wkdravenna
@wkdravenna 4 жыл бұрын
Josh your thinking like a designer in 1940, it's 2020.
@dwavenminer
@dwavenminer 4 жыл бұрын
@@wkdravenna laws of physics havnt changed since then though...we're still using round wheels after all...
@wkdravenna
@wkdravenna 4 жыл бұрын
@@dwavenminer we don't choose to do something because it's easy we choose to do it because it's hard. Because that's how winning is done. You let people tell you that you're not good enough. Well you are you got to keep design and keep moving forward.
@ericwitt23
@ericwitt23 4 жыл бұрын
BWB... Lots of lift... but at the same time, lots of surface drag. Not as efficient as you think. As others have mentioned, you still have to pass the emergency exit test. Only way to do that in a BWB is to add a lot of emergency exits (doors). Makes the structure really heavy.
@jorehir
@jorehir 4 жыл бұрын
You've forgotten one big negative aspect: if you want to have a slightly larger or smaller version of the same plane, you won't be able to just stretch the fuselage, like it's done today (ex: Boeing 787-8, 787-9. 787-10). Nobody is willing to sacrifice this kind of flexibility. Also, having engines mounted up there will make them poorly accessible and really hard to maintaine quicky. Also, if the body stalls, the engines will stall too...very bad. A much better proposal for the airplane of the future is the Aurora D8.
@AmbientMorality
@AmbientMorality 4 жыл бұрын
The D8 is unfortunately quite slow though. Makes it efficient, but if efficiency was enough of a priority to sacrifice speed we'd have turboprops.
@jorehir
@jorehir 4 жыл бұрын
@@AmbientMorality The speed difference between a 737 and a 787 is 0.065mach (from 0.785 to 0.850) and nobody complains about it. The difference between the Aurora and the 737 would be a similar 0.065 (from 0.720 to 0.785). And still, if you want it faster, just trade some fuel efficiency for speed. BTW modern turbofans aren't much different from encased turboprops....so, that's the trend.
@AmbientMorality
@AmbientMorality 4 жыл бұрын
jorehir I suspect you lose most fuel efficiency benefits of D8 by increasing speed though. Turboprops and turbofans are very different functionally despite conceptual similarities - even with ultra high bypass engines high subsonic flight is easily achievable
@georgestreicher252
@georgestreicher252 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your expert thinking on this subject. I learned a lot about a concept, I think should already be a reality.
@JoshuaMichail0
@JoshuaMichail0 Жыл бұрын
I think they should be designed a little more with the traditional tube style at the front and rear, to enable easier access to jetways at terminals. I hope that as a passenger the seating will be much more spacious and comfortable. Also, there should be real-time virtual windows with cameras viewing from both just under and over the wings so I can look at the landscape and cities below as well as the stars and sunsets.
@flyewr1907
@flyewr1907 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I have a great idea. If you would be able to do a video on ground collisions and near misses that would be awesome. Thanks
@barneygoogle2720
@barneygoogle2720 4 жыл бұрын
Exciting prospects for new aircraft technology. I believe we also need a parallel advancement in product evaluation and test technology to significantly speed up the product development process so that increasingly sophisticated new technology doesn't take forever and a king's ransom to implement.
@psychocuda
@psychocuda 4 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons to have windows isn't just to let the passengers see all the pretty sights, but if there's an emergency, like the wing is on fire, you can look outside and say "I should exit on the other side." If the power is out in an incident, how will the virtual windows, or high up windows help passengers?
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 жыл бұрын
Great points. They will have to be covered in some way. Maybe smaller looking-holes or actual windows at regular distances
@rcbif101
@rcbif101 4 жыл бұрын
Periscopes.
@murphsmodels8853
@murphsmodels8853 4 жыл бұрын
Another thing I've heard, is that they use outside windows to acclimate passengers eyes to the outside environment. If you have to evacuate the plane during the day and there are no windows, if power goes out, passengers will be blinded.
@rcbif101
@rcbif101 4 жыл бұрын
@@murphsmodels8853 emergency lighting on backup power.
@murphsmodels8853
@murphsmodels8853 4 жыл бұрын
@@rcbif101 assuming that doesn't fail in a crash.
@Gu1tarJohn
@Gu1tarJohn 4 жыл бұрын
Love this episode! I'm just an enthusiast, but this is one where I knew a lot of it already. Nerding out! :)
@AviationAustin
@AviationAustin 4 жыл бұрын
I love the blended wing concept I really think this is future of aviation. Especially as fly by wire tech improves
@GaryBickford
@GaryBickford 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the several major manufacturers could agree to a cooperative-competitive agreement working on a single common basic design in support of the necessary infrastructure etc., then compete on features. This might cut the initial development costs in 1/2, even less for each individual company if more than two are involved, and done well, could guarantee the survival of all of them while allowing for continuing competition.
@enoughofyourkoicarp
@enoughofyourkoicarp 2 жыл бұрын
You've made other videos about pilots who have lost pitch cpntrol and used the engine thrust to compensate, isn't having the engines mounted above the rest of the plane going to eliminate those kinds of contingencies? How would they make up for it?
@Ouli93
@Ouli93 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest disadvantage is in my opinion that aircraft manufacturer will not be able to just make an extended or stretched version. If you want to increase size, you'll have to redevelop the whole air-frame.
@rogerhargreaves2272
@rogerhargreaves2272 4 жыл бұрын
Graphene is going to be the next Great Leap Forward for many future developments, particularly in the aircraft industry.
@christopherjohnson3520
@christopherjohnson3520 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Commander! Hello Patxi! Nice. Thnx As Usual! CJ
@sillygoose210_6
@sillygoose210_6 4 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 жыл бұрын
I hope it didn’t disappoint.
@Deam0007
@Deam0007 4 жыл бұрын
@@MentourPilot it was absolutely fantastic ;)
@gracelandone
@gracelandone 4 жыл бұрын
Nice presentation and analysis and I agree we are long overdue to rethink aviation hardware. But my natural cynicism based on 53 years “in the back” is that any corporate entity that decides to venture this direction is going to surgically slice every ounce of available volume in such a way so the most butts can be transported. So there will be no “spaced or widespread lateral seating plan.” If anything they will seat us in the hammock model you reference, giving us all catheters so we don’t have to get out of our cargo net. Can’t wait!
@phoephoe795
@phoephoe795 4 жыл бұрын
You could solve the pressurisation issue by keeping the passenger cabin as a cylinder within the box, and use the outer depressurised section for cargo, fuel ect?
@woolooloo
@woolooloo 4 жыл бұрын
One more problem for manufacturers: with tube + wing concept, they can design a base model and easily provide stretched/shortened versions. Just add a segment or two to the tube. This won't work with blended wing.
@SheepInACart
@SheepInACart 4 жыл бұрын
A great point actually. I haven't seen anybody else make mention of the fairly large range of sizes of fit-out common on narrow body jets.... my only guess as to why it it may not be a factor yet is that they are initially targeting larger air-frames common in route/longhaul configurations which generally only come in one size (with variations in seats being purely interior layout).
@woolooloo
@woolooloo 4 жыл бұрын
@@SheepInACart Even larger airliners have differently sized versions: A350-900, A350-1000, A330-800, A330-900, 787-8, 787-9,787-10 . I think the only one that does not is A380.
@AmbientMorality
@AmbientMorality 4 жыл бұрын
@@woolooloo Indeed, and A380 was developed for a future stretch variant. Obviously that never panned out. 747-8 also doesn't have other sizes (besides older 747s, but that's a different generation too)
@woolooloo
@woolooloo 4 жыл бұрын
@@AmbientMorality Aah, I can just imagine Ryanair flight on stretched A380 with 1000 people on board. Terrifying.
@markiangooley
@markiangooley 4 жыл бұрын
“It’s only a model!”
@lostcreek163
@lostcreek163 4 жыл бұрын
Boeing's model of similar design flew a couple of years ago. Don't know why the didn't go forward. Thanks very much for this timely video.
@MentourPilot
@MentourPilot 4 жыл бұрын
I hope it answered a few questions.
@gordonlawrence1448
@gordonlawrence1448 4 жыл бұрын
Two questions came to mind. 1 isn't having engines up there going to make maintenance more of a pain? Having engines under the wings means they are easy to get at. 2 what's the difference between a blended wing aircraft and a lifting body aircraft?
@VidraduRika
@VidraduRika 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the information captain Many regards and safe flights
@BlackOWLfly
@BlackOWLfly 4 жыл бұрын
I always wondered: if you have ejection seats on jet fighters, why were they not fitted for the passenger compartment too,if not for every seat, at least for bigger parts of the plane? The plane could split in pieces and have some compartment sections that would deploy individual parachutes...
@johnfitzpatrick2469
@johnfitzpatrick2469 4 жыл бұрын
Good presentation and great graphics: Captain, thankyou for sharing your knowledge of the design future in air travel. Interesting you say the B2 is an attractive aeroplane. Always excited to receive your utube presentations.💯🍰
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 4 жыл бұрын
I had wondered why the flying wing, or flying wing type, had not become reality yet, so that has helped explain much. Thanks I see the Boeing 737 Max has yet another problem. Debris has been found in the fuel tanks of some aircraft. It will, apparently, take three days to inspect each aircraft because they will need to drain the fuel tanks and dissipate the vapours before the fuel tank can be opened.
@Lexoka
@Lexoka 4 жыл бұрын
As far as I'm aware, the current GE9X engine isn't far from the optimal diameter for the typical cruising speed of an airliner. So unless these blended wing-body designs were meant to fly slower, I don't think there'd be all that much potential for bigger engines. One interesting opportunity, however, would be propfans. With the engines on top of the wing/body, noise might be a bit less of an issue, since the aircraft itself would act as a shield. But if we assume a cruising speed around 700 km/h, then bigger engines could make a lot of sense. But this kind of speed would only be attractive for short/medium-haul aircraft where you might not need bigger engines anyway. For long-haul flights, I'm not sure passengers would be OK with longer flight times, and airlines might also balk at the thought of paying more crew hours per flight. Then again, fuel costs might be low enough to make it worthwhile for everyone involved, passengers included. I don't know, it's hard to say without specific numbers, and some notion of how expensive jet fuel will be in 2040.
@AmbientMorality
@AmbientMorality 4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by optimal diameter? That'd be a function of several engine-specific parameters. I assume you're talking about installed thrust, so nacelle drag becomes an issue for larger engines, but significantly higher should be possible with near future technology (15:1 bypass ratio or so, versus 12:1 for PW1100G). After that it gets a lot harder
@disorganizedorg
@disorganizedorg 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree with your view of the attractiveness of the B-1. XB-70, baby! Also, this video seems to be a departure, looking at more speculative things. I heartily approve!
@MatthijsvanDuin
@MatthijsvanDuin 4 жыл бұрын
For the virtual windows, instead of using a live video feed it might be easier and more effective to just render a scene and adjust the virtual camera appropriately for the aircraft's attitude and motion (based on data from data from the aircraft systems and/or a gyro/accelerometer embedded in the display unit)
@schwenke069
@schwenke069 4 жыл бұрын
Thought flying was possibly my future in high school (mid 80's). Didn't happen ... all good (really! And no regrets) ... still interested.
@maxwiens
@maxwiens 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Petter, glad to see you are doing well again! Sickness has gone completely? When the aircraft will have much more powerful engines at the rear end of the fuselage, it would "push" the aircraft more from behind. Would this decrease the (longitudinal) static stability?
@Ztbmrc1
@Ztbmrc1 4 жыл бұрын
When passengers, sitting near the wintips, walk to the center during the flight, can the autopilot still compensate to prevend the plane from rolling over? And there need to be some isles from left to right so the trolley can reach all pessengers. There is a lot to figur out, but it is an interesting concept.
@0MoTheG
@0MoTheG 4 жыл бұрын
Engines on top are also more quiet. Does anyone remember the other setup that never happened: Dual fuselage? That could be used inside the body. Or you use Kevlar inflated balloons like for Mars stations. These might bring the Bee class. I want my own little tube compartment to lay down in. I am over 6' but fold up nicely.
@charlieirvin5423
@charlieirvin5423 4 жыл бұрын
It looks very unique looking
@Sevetamryn
@Sevetamryn 4 жыл бұрын
I remember this concept was discussed last time in the early 2000's ... Conceptualised for huge numbers of passengers. Biggest issues, very different requirements for Airports.
@Andreus5
@Andreus5 2 жыл бұрын
I think that engines on top of the wing would produce more lift not because of only increasing the force that they give. But also because of increasing the speed of the flow on top of the wing. As the result it will be more lift due to the Bernoulli law.
@EliAviator
@EliAviator 4 жыл бұрын
I have finished the flight school 6 months ago. Really hope to join the jet airliner cockpit one day!
@kevgermany
@kevgermany 4 жыл бұрын
Big fan of the channel, but some serious errors here. Elevators do not move centre of gravity. They compensate for it deviating from the ideal position. Pressure inside any sealed single chamber body is uniform. It does not change depending on where you are. However the forces on the structure do tend to make it try to become a ball. Another benefit of this design is increased airflow over the top of the wing, so more lift at lower speeds. And potentially lower take off/landing speeds. Also the delta concept where wings don't stall in the conventional sense.
@ellikon9127
@ellikon9127 4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing!! Ufo type🙂
@ro3521
@ro3521 4 жыл бұрын
I see a big problem when it comes to fuel: if there is some kind of leak in the side of the tank, it might actually leak into the cabin. It's a big risk, especially if there is even a minor short-circuit or an energy spike.
@gtr1952
@gtr1952 4 жыл бұрын
Good point. Also balance, add and subtract 8T.. ??
@yottaforce
@yottaforce 4 жыл бұрын
Aviation fuel is not that flammable.
@ro3521
@ro3521 4 жыл бұрын
@@yottaforce it is still flammable.
@SheepInACart
@SheepInACart 4 жыл бұрын
Its probably worth noting many current popular designs already have "belly" fuel tanks in the fuselage (normally between or slightly behind the wings). Likewise even wing fuel tanks are still affixed to a body that as simlarly adjacent to passenger space, but keep in mind the cabin area is pressurized separately, the wings, fuel tank zones (or normal baggage) are not, so the risk of a leak into the passenger area not only involves crossing several barriers, its effectively also working "uphill" against the normal pressure gradient.
@jaroslavsevcik3421
@jaroslavsevcik3421 4 жыл бұрын
@@gtr1952 fuel balancing is already solved.
@Paul1958R
@Paul1958R 4 жыл бұрын
Petter/Mentour, Great video and subject - thank you! I would love to watch more videos by you on the subject of future commerical aircraft including high efficiency aircraft, low boom supersonic aircraft, and all electric aircraft. God bless Paul (in MA USA)
@jacakopl
@jacakopl 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting point about no windows- but then ... all other passangers always close them when I fly 😡, so already feels like flying in a box.
@CMDRFandragon
@CMDRFandragon 4 жыл бұрын
Flying WW2 flight sims, losing my rudder sure was a shitty endeavor. Then I took the HO-229 for a spin, wow was that awkward. I legit kept trying to use my rudder, not being used to not having one. Thing was wobbly as all hell.
@roglar
@roglar 4 жыл бұрын
I started thinking of what if the virtual windows video feed gets hacked with the intent to cause panic. For example while the aircraft is safe IRL the passengers see a scene of it crashing.
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