Thanks for talking about the specific differences between the 850 and 1000. I think you are the first to mention the larger radiator and fan! 👍🏼
@freidrichnietzsche66433 ай бұрын
Agreed. Makes me wonder how much upgrading those items themselves would actually cost if a man bought the 850, flashed it to the 1000 tune...?
@jakemccann27903 ай бұрын
This is the detailed review I've been waiting for from a provider. Your reviews are honestly detailed. Very thorough well thought out content. Can you get your hands on an 850 max xtp for a review? And maybe comparison with the polaris 850 touring two up trail model . This was an excellent video great narration with no BS Thanks for your time
@RyanatLandAir3 ай бұрын
Just after the 5 minute mark, you mention the 1000 is equipped with a parallel twin. Its actually a V-twin if anyone is interested. Thanks
@nicholasstewart75853 ай бұрын
Anybody who has ridden numerous modern ATVs knows how good the can am machines are. While the machines get a bad rap for reliability, In my experience people beat on these things like rented mules, making little to no effort to take care for them. My Renegade 1000 xxc has 8800 miles, ive had zero issues other than regular maintenance items that are all listed in the manual. Ride quality and performance, there is no better machine available.
@firstoutlander2 ай бұрын
Agreed, we race GNCC and other off road events and without doubt they hold up better than anything else under the most grueling conditions. 4 years racing on a Renegade with no issues other than crash related still amazes me. I’m not brand loyal I just want to win and the only choice in Can Am, problem is the whole starting line is Can Am so you really don’t have an advantage.
@qvidz11352 ай бұрын
Need that G3 Renegade made ASAP 😁
@TrailPass3 ай бұрын
Showa is stock on the base 850? That seems like a nice upgrade!
@BC_Hunter2 ай бұрын
Love the sleek design of the hand guards.
@paulcoverdale8312Ай бұрын
The most sensible review I’ve seen in a long time. Cheers. Are can am goin to put the 1k R in the 6x6? 🙏🙏👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
@m8sandman3 ай бұрын
No rocking back and fourth to shift like on previous Outlanders, there I fixed it for you. I'll be a buyer if they are reliable, we'll know that after a year or two of use. My 23 850 Outlander Max has been rock solid for 1400 miles.
@beri232Ай бұрын
Went and looked at the 1000XT today in red. Nice machines! Canam listened to their customers! None of you guys have mentioned on your reviews how nice the plastic panels fit. No more goofy tabs and grommets. The side panels actually “latch” into place….. you used to have to bend and contort them to get them in. It was a real p.i.t.a. Also….. nobody has mentioned the excellent accessibility to the CVT belt. It is so easily accessible now! The Gen 2 was a p.i.t.a. Unless you modified the foot-board. They’ve got new clutches, diff lock on the 1000’s, 4 wheel disc brakes on the 1000’s. The storage…. it’s one thing to see it on video but go see it in person…. there was some real thought put into these designs and they stackability or interactions between all the Linq stuff is soooo much better than the Gen 2’s. I don’t know why anyone would buy the 850’s. You get more options included on the 1000’s besides the extra power and there are no weight savings going to the 850…. so why take the 850? My 2017 1000R XT-P handles like garbage. Compared to my Gen 1 machine it corners poorly, side-hills poorly and is extremely tippy…. even with wheel spacers. My Gen 1 800 handled better! Well…. these new Gen 3’s have a slightly longer wheel base and a slightly wider stance so they “should” handle better than the Gen 2’s. I swore I wouldn’t buy another Canam after my Gen 2 but I believe I may have to eat those words. If these clutches work better then the Gen 2 garbage…. I’ll be buying one! Just want to hear how the clutches hold up before pulling the trigger. I’m not blowing $2,000 CAD on clutches for an $18,000 machine. Did it before…. NOT doing it again!
@jakemccann27903 ай бұрын
No covers inside the front fenders to protect the rad from mud , sticks , sand , gravel and other flying debris. The older gen had inner covers ...its a selling feature on quads and pick up trucks
@youfixitatvutvАй бұрын
The killer with the 850 is the abscence of the 4lok front differential. Why do I need 1000cc for a difflock? That sux Canam.
@AlecsandruCАй бұрын
Soo...what should I buy ? I def dont need 100hp lol. Think Im gonna go with the 850xt
@thegodfreyspecial4233 ай бұрын
It sounds like you absolutely will be able to get the full jam 100+ hp flashed into the 850. We did this with our Sea-Doo Sparks - love that BRP doesn't care.
@wizard_of_poz44133 ай бұрын
You'll have heat issues
@Dusdaddy3 ай бұрын
No, you won't. They made sure of that.
@goodboyringo97163 ай бұрын
11,200 vs 18,000, yes it will change the ATV forever at that price. I say 18,000 because its 16,500 plus taxes and dealer shipping and dealer fees.
@ut_punkn1859Ай бұрын
Its crazy the amount of money they are charging for these machines. None of these are worth more than 10k
@goodboyringo9716Ай бұрын
@@ut_punkn1859 ... I found a use 2008 800 xt Outlander with 1380 miles . I did some small repairs and it is a beast , why pay 18,000 ?
@larryosselborn90092 ай бұрын
Is there a 6x6 version
@jeremymasser22843 ай бұрын
When you said the 850 has a 998cc engine detuned, I almost turned it off… then when you said parallel twin… I was done.
@wizard_of_poz44133 ай бұрын
It's a v and it is the same engine
@drew47693 ай бұрын
Well he is correct about the displacement of the 850 outlander. So you issue should be with can-am
@wizard_of_poz44133 ай бұрын
@@drew4769 why is it an issue
@drew47693 ай бұрын
@wizard_of_poz4413 because it's silly to name it the outlander 850 is the engine is 999cc
@freidrichnietzsche66433 ай бұрын
Been holding off on buying a Polaris xp1000 sportsman because of some reliability concerns but like how they look and ride. Looks like canam upped the ante with these units… now I have a tough decision to make! Anyone know if Polaris will be upgrading their bigger 850/1000 sportsman units anytime soon? If not, I might splurge on the canam 1000
@willoblenes20023 ай бұрын
these machines stock are garbage. better off with the can am. can't even put a two inch lift on them with stock axles. shocks have little to no travel from factory. shitty transmission setup, awful to do clutch work on and the list goes on
@freidrichnietzsche66433 ай бұрын
@@willoblenes2002 you’re saying both the Polaris and the canam are garbage? I’m not looking to lift or anything, just don’t want a $16k unit to break down all the time and have a decent warranty. Might be too much to ask.
@pajamatime57503 ай бұрын
@@freidrichnietzsche6643Sounds like you need a Kawi.
@freidrichnietzsche66433 ай бұрын
@@pajamatime5750 perhaps. Just want something to get me a little excited when I ride it. Would be a Honda but they’re somewhat boring (even though we love team red and have several).
@drewwass26143 ай бұрын
Owned many Polaris and am now CanAm owner. Loved the features of Polaris but just so many issues with all of them and prematurely too. I would recommend BRP over Polaris without question. Just trying to help…
@roostercoggburn74363 ай бұрын
Parallel twin? Or v twin?
@freidrichnietzsche66433 ай бұрын
Same. Glad I wasn’t the only one that heard that.
@GYPSY4003 ай бұрын
V twin
@quentinnewbury3 ай бұрын
@@roostercoggburn7436 vtwin
@avendesora2223 ай бұрын
Great review, but I missed the part where this “will change atvs forever…”
@crazyflyboy303 ай бұрын
Polaris Scrambler XP1000 S has already changed ATV’S forever and my friend and I both wouldn't have anything else. Ones you go 55" with 14" suspension you can't go back. Well my Scrambler XP1000 S has 81" wheelbase and 60" wide with 32x10x14 Roxxzilla Competition for hill climbing.
@wizard_of_poz44133 ай бұрын
Yea i would have bought a sportsman s but I don't trust polaris and couldn't stomach 20k
@crazyflyboy303 ай бұрын
@@wizard_of_poz4413 I have 2 Polaris 2018 Sportsman XP1000 and Scrambler xp1000 S and both had a few problems but I Love both of them. I bought both in payment's little over $200 month and I don't even notice it. FYI the Sportsman XP1000 has been sitting ever since I got the Scrambler XP1000 S it on another level.
@wizard_of_poz44133 ай бұрын
@crazyflyboy30 yea like I said it was hard to swallow especially when I picked up an xtp outlander brand new this year for 11999
@kayfredriknilsen12853 ай бұрын
I have a 2019 outlander XXC 1000R an i want the new xtp
@Markjw06Ай бұрын
New Cfmoto Cforce 1k will smoke it for alot less...
@cosinesquared41253 ай бұрын
Getting the cheaper version and just buying Elka's seems like the way to go.
@Podchynok3 ай бұрын
I hope they change asking prices lol
@zfilmmaker3 ай бұрын
I’ve owned nothing but CanAm XT850’s and although it’s nice, CanAm has improved the frame, alternator for more lights and accessories for 2025… the shocks are junk but I rather upgrade myself than pay a-lot more for junk SHOWA’s. I drove a Polaris Sportsman 1000 S and in terms of comfort and handling, it destroys CanAm outlander in every aspect. I just don’t know what the reliability is like for Polaris.
@dosstheboss1002 ай бұрын
I don't understand why they would detune something
@utahwanderlust7003 ай бұрын
What?! The 850 is a 999cc engine?! Usually, makers round up on the cc size, not the other way around. That's kind of dumb to say your engine is missing 150 cc's when it's really actually all there!
@uAdrien3 ай бұрын
@@quentinnewbury no it's not, the 850 outlander for 2025 is 1000 with a detune
@quentinnewbury3 ай бұрын
@@uAdrien strange on the site it says 999 and 850cc my bad
@wizard_of_poz44133 ай бұрын
@quentinnewbury can am is only making like 3 engines now in these machines: the 650 single, the 999 twin, and the 999 triple because of carbon credits and saving costs on production
@m8sandman3 ай бұрын
@@quentinnewbury It is a 999cc engine tuned to give the performance of a 850cc
@crazyflyboy303 ай бұрын
@@m8sandman I think that the 850 has a smaller cam and tune
@TiffanyBottomsHunter3 ай бұрын
If it has the same frame, and motor mounts as the 500 and 700 with a heavier engine, then you’re probably going to have motor mounts breaking. If this has the P-Drive CVT you’re going to have bearing issues around 500-1000 miles, that will need replaced.
@firstoutlander2 ай бұрын
Wrong again the 1000/850 have beefed up frames the motor mount was only on a few with a quick fix of swapping out with an off the shelf snowmobile mount. Keep trolling and exposing yourself how credible you are.
@soundnessofmind71963 ай бұрын
You called a 998cc a little billy goat ..you smoking
@randallwhite8633 ай бұрын
Stop it with the Harris ads!
@Lalaafastroli3 ай бұрын
this is not the place for political nonsense. This is UTV driver. get a life man...
@soundnessofmind71963 ай бұрын
Thats a vtwin not parellel
@TiffanyBottomsHunter3 ай бұрын
I want to see the frame, and chassis. I want to see the motor mounts on the 850, and 1000. The 500 and 700 already are breaking the motor mounts. They are not securing the engine to the frame properly.
@AlfyPotsdam-wh9vs3 ай бұрын
Reality would say different. Zero evidence of that being a "major" issue.
@TiffanyBottomsHunter3 ай бұрын
@@AlfyPotsdam-wh9vs No, there is real evidence of the motor mounts already breaking on the new can am outlander 700. Here is a video
@AlfyPotsdam-wh9vs3 ай бұрын
@@TiffanyBottomsHunter You talking about Mud Puppy's vid? Yeah, that's one guy. Not exactly a pandemic. Besides, he's running that machine damn hard and has 33" tires! Which is awesome but not exactly something the average user needs to worry over. Don't be a chicken-little.....
@TiffanyBottomsHunter3 ай бұрын
@@AlfyPotsdam-wh9vs If you watched his video, then you will hear him mention other people are having the same issue. Whether those other people are running larger tires or not is one thing, but I’m pretty sure that people who buy the XMR’s are going to be riding them pretty rough seeing they are supposed to be mud machines. The engine mounts breaking isn’t directly related to the size of tires he has, that would be things like the axles, differentials, steering components, etc not the engine mounts. I have never heard in 30yrs of riding a Honda having engine mounts breaking, or any other Japanese manufacturer of ATVS for that matter. Can Am has earned the nickname “ Crap Am “ by many riders due to their quality, or lack there of. They have numerous issues , and it has been shown through the years. The old Bombardier Traxter, and Quest ATVS or the John Deere Buck ATV were built much better, but Can Am isn’t the same machine. If you want to go and spend all the money on a Can Am and learn the hard way, that is up to you. It’s hard to beat experience though. I know the working man doesn’t want to overpay for a machine that is likely only going to give him a few years of riding regularly with some issues. If you just want a machine to ride on a few weekends in the summer then maybe, but I wouldn’t buy one personally. That’s up to you. Polaris and Can Am both tend to have a lot of issues, it doesn’t really matter if it’s a new machine, it’s their manufacturing process. I believe Can Am asks way too much for their machines, even if I could buy a brand new 2025 Can Am Outlander XTP for the same as a Honda, I would buy Honda no question about it.
@AlfyPotsdam-wh9vs3 ай бұрын
@@TiffanyBottomsHunter lol..oh because one guy on the internet said, "lots of people have issues", it's fact huh? Yet, no one else is talking about it. A quick check of Can-Am forums and not a single post about motor mounts going bad. So where is this "big issue" if the owners don't even know about it? If it existed, they'd be bitching about it on the forums. I had electrical issues on my Foreman but I know it's not widespread. Don't be like a typical hater and just throw stones, deal in facts and your own experience. Otherwise, you just look like a dumb petty fanboy.
@TiffanyBottomsHunter3 ай бұрын
Beware of quality control issues, and YES you most likely will have maintenance issues, and problems before scheduled maintenance intervals. Don’t give in to the marketing strategies, these machines have a lot of issues.
@firstoutlander3 ай бұрын
You proof, it’s not even out yet
@TiffanyBottomsHunter3 ай бұрын
@@firstoutlander proof ? I have proof.
@firstoutlander3 ай бұрын
@@TiffanyBottomsHunter Show us your so called proof
@soundnessofmind71963 ай бұрын
Why do you say this?
@TiffanyBottomsHunter3 ай бұрын
@@soundnessofmind7196 These new Outlanders the 500/700 have had a number of quality control issues, from loose bolts hanging off of the transmission housing, loose hoses, and clamps from the CVT connected to the snorkel ( all hoses should be inspected )to the wrong hose entirely on the machine ( the regular snorkel hose on the XMR model, as supposed to the XMR model snorkel for example ) Electronic, or ECU issues of the machine not wanting to switch from one mode to the next. Side panels breaking off rather easily, engine motor mounts breaking ( Yes the mounts that are supposed to secure the engine to the frame ) Other things to consider are the thin metal used in the frame ( Not the Bumper ). These have so far been found to relate to quality control, but Can Am has a history of having issues. Quality control issues , and build quality should be considered separate. As the quality control is a manufacturing, and assembly issue at the factory itself, well as build quality is part of the engineering aspect, but can also be a result of the manufacturing process ( welding for example ).
@Justthatguy4203 ай бұрын
No front or rear bumper booooo
@moon_the_only_moon3 ай бұрын
I live in bc
@colbiecolbie69793 ай бұрын
Made Mexico! Nope ! Not for me !
@wizard_of_poz44133 ай бұрын
You'd probably buy a chinamoto
@Dusdaddy3 ай бұрын
Sure....and nothing you own is made in Mexico or Asia.
@MotleyMagee-o4s3 ай бұрын
Lopez Jason Martin Michael Moore Steven
@TiffanyBottomsHunter3 ай бұрын
I don’t know about a work ATV, these aren’t really work ATV’s They are short term machines, not long term machines
@jasoncampbell28083 ай бұрын
What are you talking about?
@TiffanyBottomsHunter3 ай бұрын
@@jasoncampbell2808 The long term reliability isn’t there, maybe a few years depending on the rider.
@firstoutlander2 ай бұрын
@@TiffanyBottomsHunter Hondatrool alert, he is just made because he purchased an inferior product at a higher cost and got beat by a girl on an outlander.
@PierreVilleneuve-v6r3 ай бұрын
Dash looks cheap,
@dosstheboss1002 ай бұрын
Whole atv looks like its from temu
@manatvriders3 ай бұрын
🤮
@PaXion-z4b3 ай бұрын
Yamaha grizzly all day
@Ljbuddy123 ай бұрын
🤣
@SonnyVator3 ай бұрын
Sure if you want to ride around like an old dude.
@Dusdaddy3 ай бұрын
Grizzly owner here.....nope. They're too old and too unchanged. They gave up on us years ago, just like Honda.
@m8sandman3 ай бұрын
I have 2 700 Grizzly's and a 850 Outlander Max. While the Grizzly is a better built machine, if you ride it more like a sport quad like I do then the ride and power of the Outlander is much better.
@TiffanyBottomsHunter3 ай бұрын
Don’t be deceived these machines, aren’t on par with Japanese manufacturers as far as durability, reliability, and overall build quality.
@wizard_of_poz44133 ай бұрын
Never had an issue. Japanese stuff breaks just as much depending on what you do with it
@TiffanyBottomsHunter3 ай бұрын
@@wizard_of_poz4413 I have over 30yrs experience, and NO they do not.
@wizard_of_poz44133 ай бұрын
@@TiffanyBottomsHunter ok bud sure thing, every Japanese machine is literally 100% perfect and will never experience any mechanical issues at all
@TiffanyBottomsHunter3 ай бұрын
@@wizard_of_poz4413 I didn’t say that, but you don’t see Can Ams 30yrs old still running with a strong heartbeat with no engine repair, unlike Japanese manufacturers. Can Am is not on there level.
@wizard_of_poz44133 ай бұрын
@TiffanyBottomsHunter uh I'm not sure can am was around 30 years ago and I still see plenty of 20yr old can am bombardiers out there still running good
@Ohanxx3 ай бұрын
I’ll take the cforce 1000 2025 any day over it
@SonnyVator3 ай бұрын
explain
@AlfyPotsdam-wh9vs3 ай бұрын
@@SonnyVator Cause he can't afford a Can-Am.....
@dylanmorriss3 ай бұрын
1000%!!!
@dylanmorriss3 ай бұрын
@@AlfyPotsdam-wh9vswhy pay the price for a heap of outdated tech?
@Greg-lz1yf3 ай бұрын
It’s cheap garbage and very overpriced
@jongray37973 ай бұрын
Hard to watch this kind of content when you have no idea what you’re talking about. Do a little research maybe?
@HaloHamstur3 ай бұрын
What does he not know? Seems pretty accurate to me.
@lisamangles4878Ай бұрын
As president of the polaris victims club id give my eye teeth for 1000 canam..
@dylanmorriss3 ай бұрын
Hahah what a load of overpriced overhyped crap!! Cf moto way better 😂💯🤌🏽.
@dylanmorriss3 ай бұрын
Any cf moto quad after mid year 2023 shits on all these other quads when comparing bang for your buck these machines by canam/polaris ect are overhyped/overpriced crap.