The Allied Ship That Gathered All Its Firepower for One Epic Shot

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Күн бұрын

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@ljprep6250
@ljprep6250 6 ай бұрын
Nelson was a very busy and effective ship, able to withstand torps, mines, and aerial bombing and keep on shooting. Amazing.
@markdavidson1049
@markdavidson1049 6 ай бұрын
The Nelson and Rodney are my two favorite battleships (along with the King George V-class). They are such a unique design and very "clean"-looking as well. A lot of ships have an "Atlantic bow" which flares up and outwards in order to prevent waves from breaching over and across the deck. Nelson and Rodney had a more streamlined and straight-edged look from stern to bow. The superstructure had the "Queen Anne's Mansion" design to it which looked like a building and I loved the faceted lines like at the very front and how it angled out in straight lines.
@rikk319
@rikk319 6 ай бұрын
It was a beautiful ship.
@TheRealRedAce
@TheRealRedAce 21 күн бұрын
The Atlantic bow was better though. Often ships like Scharnhorst which didn't have one when built were later fitted with one for better sea keeping.
@kevinmccann2814
@kevinmccann2814 6 ай бұрын
My Grandfather Archie Lynch was a Coder on board Nelson. Was onboard at Scapa Flow when the King inspected the fleet.Was still aboard at D Day. He was injured when the ship hit a mine.
@steinetrinder696
@steinetrinder696 6 ай бұрын
Lest we forget!
@tuc-dh4df
@tuc-dh4df 4 ай бұрын
Lies!
@markneedham752
@markneedham752 4 ай бұрын
​@@tuc-dh4df....and you know better. Put up., or shut up.
@tuc-dh4df
@tuc-dh4df 4 ай бұрын
@@markneedham752 Make me dickhead
@Dave5843-d9m
@Dave5843-d9m Ай бұрын
The Russian bots are bottling the wrong videos.
@fus149hammer5
@fus149hammer5 3 ай бұрын
Logical layout for a british warship as the enemy would never see a Royal Navy ship running away only advancing to the attack.
@optimusminimus-v3d
@optimusminimus-v3d 2 ай бұрын
The Nelson touch!
@danielslocum7169
@danielslocum7169 Ай бұрын
Not quite how it worked out for Prince of Whales against Biskarck and Prinz Uegen after Hood blew up.
@squirepraggerstope3591
@squirepraggerstope3591 25 күн бұрын
@@danielslocum7169 Not too surprising given PoW was so recently commissioned that she was obliged to put to sea to intercept Bismarck with several civilian engineers still on board trying to tackle problems with her brand new main armament and propulsion plant installations.
@danielslocum7169
@danielslocum7169 25 күн бұрын
@@squirepraggerstope3591 True; and POW'S shooting was very good despite the teething problems.Just had to counter the above "never" comment. The King G V,s are very impressive as is the Royal Navy in general. Having said that, the German capital ships just looked absolutely menacing to me, and Bismarck backed up that look until severely handicaped.
@TheRealRedAce
@TheRealRedAce 21 күн бұрын
Nelson could still only fire 2 turrets forward, just like a conventionally laid out ship. Also B turret couldn't fire all 3 guns over A turret without concussing everyone in A turret. So she had to fire on the broadside just like other ships. The layout was to save weight and increase armour by shortening the area protected. As for not having to run away on occasion, tell that to the Queen Elizabeths at Jutland.
@russmartiens3244
@russmartiens3244 3 ай бұрын
Awesome ship. Odd design but what a tough battle harden ship. Total respect to the crew, designers, ship workers, new and repair.
@aislemontecristo
@aislemontecristo 6 ай бұрын
The fact that it survived so many hits, is about as impressive as its firepower.
@nomercyinc6783
@nomercyinc6783 6 ай бұрын
thats the entire point of battleships and battle cruisers. they arent about just giving damage but taking it and surviving as well. glass canons are useless
@chrissouthgate4554
@chrissouthgate4554 4 ай бұрын
Well, who was she named for?
@spotontheroad1
@spotontheroad1 2 ай бұрын
When I first started work I workwd with a chap called Reg Kyte who had been a gunner in A-turret on the Nelson. I remember him telling me that the 16" guns could fire a shell 20 miles with accuracy and 25 miles just dropping it in a general area. He was injured in action and saw out the rest of the war stationed on HMS Victory on fire watch. Reg was a very quiet, kind man. A real gent.
@Andrew-is7rs
@Andrew-is7rs 6 ай бұрын
The name, the man .. the ship. Pride 👍🇬🇧
@optimusminimus-v3d
@optimusminimus-v3d 5 ай бұрын
Can a British warship have a more illustrious name than this?
@jeebusk
@jeebusk 5 ай бұрын
more illustrious than illustrious?
@Beemer917
@Beemer917 Ай бұрын
Something we colonials regret in the isles these days.
@zororosario
@zororosario 6 ай бұрын
Nelson and Rodney are pure firepower 😊, still a force to be reckoned with if brought back today ❤Cheers
@johnsepulveda443
@johnsepulveda443 6 ай бұрын
With anti ship missiles they wouldn't last very long in combat
@zororosario
@zororosario 6 ай бұрын
@@johnsepulveda443 modern remedies for anti ship missiles are available 😊🤔
@johnsepulveda443
@johnsepulveda443 6 ай бұрын
@@zororosario their also way to expensive to run these days that’s why all battleships are now retired and do you even know how expensive it would be to modernize that ship 🤣
@zororosario
@zororosario 6 ай бұрын
Quality before the price or quantity, that's the the only thing that matters. History reminds us.
@johnsepulveda443
@johnsepulveda443 6 ай бұрын
If I remember right the Rodney ran from the Bismarck after the Bismarck sunk the hood that the cruiser Ms shadowed it until reinforcements arrived after the Bismarcks rudder had been hit and jammed
@wodantheviking
@wodantheviking 6 ай бұрын
My uncle, in the 5th battalion Sherwood Foresters, part of the 10th Corps, supporting the US 5th Army, participated in the allied landing at Salerno. He was wounded twice, during the fighting in Italy, before his regiment was sent to Greece, to prevent civil war, after the Germans had evacuated. He ended up in Austria at the end of the war.
@richardmayes8797
@richardmayes8797 6 ай бұрын
I'm adamant that Nelson and Rodney inspired Star Wars' Imperial star destroyers: a great big armoured wedge, with a tall conning tower at the rear, and all the guns at the front.
@ciaranReal
@ciaranReal 6 ай бұрын
Yes
@markcairns9574
@markcairns9574 6 ай бұрын
@@ciaranReal Stuart Goddard? is that really you?
@timonsolus
@timonsolus 6 ай бұрын
Plus, officers with British accents!
@theorenhobart
@theorenhobart 6 ай бұрын
@@timonsolus " our first catch of the day" boooom!!
@Castlelong333
@Castlelong333 6 ай бұрын
Nope , Yamato and Moshi I believe was the inspiration, for Star wars , imperial star destroyers , one clue is imperial, the Storm troopers are inspired by the WW2 German soldiers and machine guns
@harryflower1810
@harryflower1810 6 ай бұрын
My great uncle was a SPO on Nelson from 1940 to 1947
@jp-um2fr
@jp-um2fr 6 ай бұрын
Somewhere on YT there is a photo of what happened to a Tiger tank after Nelson hit it with a 16" shell. The crew were underneath it at the time, taking shelter. It had been assumed there was nobody near it until they found a lone finger. The Tiger was still recognisable, one wonders what a Sherman would have looked like - if you could find it. WELL DONE, you pronounced every word well. Makes a change.
@BrianSmith-ow9gy
@BrianSmith-ow9gy 6 ай бұрын
Apart from "forecastle". It's pronounced "folk sul"
@peterwebb8732
@peterwebb8732 6 ай бұрын
I believe that was the Rodney’s work in Normandy. I’ve read that that Panzer unit took 40% casualties before they could get mobile and avoid. With 16”, near enough was good enough
@briand01
@briand01 5 ай бұрын
Nelson was not at the D-Day landings she was being repaired Rodney did the honours
@restoflif
@restoflif 2 ай бұрын
@@BrianSmith-ow9gy Yes, not British. Also, knots per hour is an acceleration not a speed.
@TheRealRedAce
@TheRealRedAce 21 күн бұрын
A Sherman would have looked like a dispersed pile of iron filings! Not that Nelson would have shot at a Sherman. That was more the sort of thing the Americans would do.
@tltc191
@tltc191 6 ай бұрын
My Dad was a machine gunner on landing craft at Salerno. He was wounded there.
@dixiecyrus8136
@dixiecyrus8136 6 ай бұрын
Brave ship and crew❤❤❤
@cameronsienkiewicz6364
@cameronsienkiewicz6364 6 ай бұрын
Man, if I had a nickel for every time a WW2 KZbinr put in footage of HMS Barham exploding, I’d be rich
@patsweeney4220
@patsweeney4220 6 ай бұрын
I remember being a kid thinking 10$ was rich 🤑
@Under-Kaoz
@Under-Kaoz 5 ай бұрын
​@@patsweeney4220I remember when I used to say keyboard warrior comments.
@patsweeney4220
@patsweeney4220 5 ай бұрын
@@Under-Kaoz still do clearly ya idgot
@morstyrannis1951
@morstyrannis1951 5 ай бұрын
@@Under-Kaozyou appear to be irony impaired.
@markwilliams8369
@markwilliams8369 Ай бұрын
😂
@robertbruce1887
@robertbruce1887 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Dark Seas for this excellently illustrated & narrated documentary on a incredible ship.
@TheGermanNamedJames
@TheGermanNamedJames 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing a vid about this. I had always wondered about the Nelson and how it was used and stuff like that
@Cheesesteak70-d1v
@Cheesesteak70-d1v 6 ай бұрын
Now that’s what I call British forward thinking
@morstyrannis1951
@morstyrannis1951 5 ай бұрын
The design was necessary to comply with the Washington Naval Treaty. Placing all the main armament forward reduced the area requiring protection by the main armour belt. Germany claimed it was complying with the treaty but, shocker, they were lying.
@johnhanson5943
@johnhanson5943 Ай бұрын
What happened to it, however?
@diannegooding8733
@diannegooding8733 6 ай бұрын
The capsized and exploding battleship is HMS Barham. The other capsized vessel is I believe a battleship from World War One. Possibly Austria Hungarian (?)
@BadgerGB
@BadgerGB 6 ай бұрын
Correct, the second one was the SMS Szent István btw., a dreadnought of the Austro-Hungarian Navy sunk on 10 June 1918 by italian trorpedo boats.
@NeilHardy-i4l
@NeilHardy-i4l 6 ай бұрын
If we are being pedantic Astro Hungarian
@NeilHardy-i4l
@NeilHardy-i4l 6 ай бұрын
Austro Hungarian damn this auto correct
@chrissouthgate4554
@chrissouthgate4554 4 ай бұрын
@@NeilHardy-i4l If we are being super pedantic, Croatian as she was in the process of being handed over to them.
@TheRealRedAce
@TheRealRedAce 21 күн бұрын
@@chrissouthgate4554 You're thinking of a different ship there, the one that was mined by Italian divers who didn't know it had been handed over.
@Isueng
@Isueng 22 күн бұрын
i like the fact that after all those engagements and the holes put in her and then facing a summer of target practise including dropping one ton armour piercing bombs on it still never sunk her - no matter what anyone says about the nelson class those sixteen inch guns and the fourteen inch armour made them a force to be reckoned with (and personaly i think the forward layout of all its guns gave her a truely awesome appearance)
@davidc6510
@davidc6510 6 ай бұрын
Another great historical video. Thanks for sharing!
@nickreestearsofaclown4661
@nickreestearsofaclown4661 6 ай бұрын
My grandfather served on the Nelson being in charge of a battery of Pom Pom guns. An American shell exploded in one of the barrels and a splinter hit him above the eye causing him to be discharged from sea duty and became a dispatch rider.
@francescxavierbulto9848
@francescxavierbulto9848 6 ай бұрын
That’s odd, the reason why the US didn’t adopt the Pom Pom was because they couldn’t make compatible ammunition.
@jeebusk
@jeebusk 5 ай бұрын
They're cheer leaders 😅
@randyandtheretreads3144
@randyandtheretreads3144 3 ай бұрын
What? His eye injury prevented him from being a sailor, but he could ride a motorcycle? Sounds like the army had lower standards or were less compassionate.
@TheRealRedAce
@TheRealRedAce 21 күн бұрын
@@francescxavierbulto9848 Which might explain why it exploded in the barrel! Anyway I assumed the 'American shell' came from an American ship - they hit their own side very often, and still do. One only has to remember the US fleet at Pearl harbour shooting the heck out of Pearl City with their AA!
@amiyo321
@amiyo321 6 ай бұрын
One of my favourite battleships rodney
@marksmith1779
@marksmith1779 6 ай бұрын
HMS Nelson must have had some fantastic guns to be able to hit Italy from the Normandy coast! Especially since the battle for Italy was practically over by June 1944. "With her nine thunderous cannons she cleared a path for the Allies to liberate Italy."
@agunther08
@agunther08 6 ай бұрын
It’s on the Internet it must be true… 😂
@markwheeler202
@markwheeler202 2 ай бұрын
@@ancient1946 The treaty signing with Italy.
@stargazer5784
@stargazer5784 6 ай бұрын
The term 'cannon' was most frequently used during the age of sail. During the age of steam and steel, the main batteries were referred to as naval guns. Good video non the less. Thx.
@daneelolivaw602
@daneelolivaw602 2 ай бұрын
I don't know about the rest of the age of sail, but during Lord Nelson's time in the RN, they were called Guns.
@harryflower1810
@harryflower1810 6 ай бұрын
Rodney pulverized Bismarck with her guns and torpedoed her to boot.
@josephgallacher3729
@josephgallacher3729 6 ай бұрын
She was equipped with 24 inch Topedoes (21 inch or 18 inch for aircraft were usual ) but I believe they were removed at beginning of war as it was believed th4y were a danger to the ship if they were hit in a battle
@josephgallacher3729
@josephgallacher3729 6 ай бұрын
Within minutes hit the front turret of Bismarck which also crippled supervising turret, then 9n Bismarck fighting hand behind it back
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 6 ай бұрын
@@josephgallacher3729 HMS Rodney still had her torpedo armament when she engaged KMS Bismarck, thus it is very possible that she did manage a torpedo hit against Bismarck, at one point the ships closed to within torpedo range or "point blank range" for the 16" guns of Rodney.
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 6 ай бұрын
@@josephgallacher3729 No, they weren't. Rodney used them against Bismarck, and may have achieved a hit.
@johntim3491
@johntim3491 6 ай бұрын
​@@josephgallacher3729.... Rodney took out 3 of Bismarck's 4 main turrets.
@3vimages471
@3vimages471 6 ай бұрын
Rodney ..... one of my favourite ships.
@paganphil100
@paganphil100 6 ай бұрын
@3vimages471: This is HMS Nelson.....same class as Rodney but not the same ship.
@krzysztofwaleska
@krzysztofwaleska 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful ships. All of them. Great times!
@michaelswales4477
@michaelswales4477 2 ай бұрын
My Uncle was on the HMS Nelson as Chief Yeoman of Signals severed for 3 years winning a BEM medal which was presented by the King
@mikep490
@mikep490 6 ай бұрын
HMS Nelson was well named. "Never mind the maneuvers, just go straight at them!" is what she was designed for.
@drmarkintexas-400
@drmarkintexas-400 6 ай бұрын
🎖️💪🙏🏆 Thank you for sharing this
@BMrider75
@BMrider75 6 ай бұрын
Knots = nautical miles per hour. Saying "knots per hour" is just so wrong...
@BadgerGB
@BadgerGB 6 ай бұрын
That's exactly what I was about to say👍
@jeebusk
@jeebusk 5 ай бұрын
lol yeah
@mariusgrobler
@mariusgrobler 2 ай бұрын
Indeed. A knot is a nautical mile per hour. The term "knots per hour" would therefore refer to the rate at which the ship accelerates and not its speed.
@Isueng
@Isueng 16 күн бұрын
its to do with the curviture of the earth whereas roads are built level ... a knot is a mile but its a direct mile from point to point so the ship would need to go under the water wheras on top of the water the curve and bulge of the water makes it slightly further 1.1 mile roughly
@jimmacaulay844
@jimmacaulay844 6 ай бұрын
Cannons? GUNS!!!
@BrianSmith-ow9gy
@BrianSmith-ow9gy 6 ай бұрын
Or just "cannon". It's both singular and plural. "Cannons" is just wrong.
@ericgruel274
@ericgruel274 6 ай бұрын
Naval rifles
@rogernevin7461
@rogernevin7461 5 ай бұрын
16'' guns, range 22 miles ! She could stand off in the Channel and hit France.
@jes2731
@jes2731 6 ай бұрын
It's hard to think of a major ship coming to it's technologically useful end at a mere 25 years old. New technologies rabbit holes were developing so fast back then. Today, our oldest in service carrier is the USS Nimitz (CVN-68), commissioned 03-MAY-1975, 49 years ago, and still more than a half decade away from the longest commissioned carrier, USS Enterprise (CVN-65) with 55 years and 70 days of active service. My one and only, USS Midway (CV-41) had an impressive 46 years and 214 days of service, commissioned on 10-SEP-1945.
@BrianSmith-ow9gy
@BrianSmith-ow9gy 6 ай бұрын
The main problem was their abysmal lack of speed. Even the Queen Elizabeth class ships from WW1 were faster. The RN never really came to grips with the need for fast battleships, ships that could keep up with the fleet carriers they, the Americans and Japanese were building. This inability to grasp the simple importance of speed is still evident today when recalling that the two Queen Elizabeth class carriers built this century can only manage 25 knots, making combined operations with the US navy impossible. The Nimitz class can manage 32 knots or better. On joining a US Task Force, the admiral in charge of our carrier group, comprising one or more Illustrious mini carriers, asked his US counterpart what they should do. The American replied that he didn't care as long as they didn't get in the way. We build cheap, on the cheap and we operate on the cheap.
@originalkk882
@originalkk882 6 ай бұрын
@@BrianSmith-ow9gy I imagine you just looked at the headline figures for speed for the QE carriers. Queen Elizabeth has actually been tested at 32kts. In WW2 the lllustrious class carriers could manage 30kts, and their escorting KGV battleships 28kts, not a significant speed difference. These vessels were designed to operate much closer to heavy enemy land based air cover around Europe, so protection was prioritised. You remarks about the British Pacific Fleet are insulting. The Illustrious class were definitely not "mini carriers", and the Americans were impressed when they continued operating after Japanese Kamikaze's hit their armoured decks, unlike the unfortunate USS's Franklin, Bunker Hill, Saratoga, Bunker Hill, and Belleau Wood.
@timonsolus
@timonsolus 6 ай бұрын
Nelson and Rodney were in near constant use during WW2, spending far more time at sea during wartime than they did during peacetime. 5 years of wartime service is like 20 years of peacetime service. That’s why they were worn out by the end of WW2 and sent for scrapping soon after.
@jamesday1295
@jamesday1295 6 ай бұрын
Hms Dreadnought...hold my beer.
@rikk319
@rikk319 6 ай бұрын
I have friends who served on both the Enterprise and Kitty Hawk. One of my grandfathers served on the Lexington and survived her sinking at Coral Sea.
@mospeada1152
@mospeada1152 6 ай бұрын
The video heading is quite misleading, as not once did I hear of when it gathered all its firepower for one epic shot!
@colinamwilliamson
@colinamwilliamson 6 ай бұрын
The forward guns cannot all be used firing forward obviously. only A and B superfiring. C turret is almost useless until almost broadside
@moodogco
@moodogco 6 ай бұрын
Yh they can as the bk turret is just angled up over the top of the other 2 turrets in front, there's plenty of footage of them all firing forward
@johncmitchell4941
@johncmitchell4941 6 ай бұрын
First, not nearly as broadside as aiming a conventionally arranged main battery. Angling say 30 degrees vs maybe 60 or more you're a smaller target and incoming shells are more likely to bounce of. If you headed more directly at your target you'd only have the use of A and B anyway. Second, the design was odd and criticized for the layout of the guns, (mentioned in the video) but the goal was not for the gun placement. It was to have a smaller citadel to armor and reduce weight per the treaty.
@ericthemauve
@ericthemauve 2 ай бұрын
Yes they can all fire forwards. Naval guns fire at an upwards angle.
@johnallen7807
@johnallen7807 6 ай бұрын
I hate the sloppy use of archive film in these KZbin vids, e.g talking about the sinking of Bismarck while showing film of (I think) HMS Barham.
@binaway
@binaway 6 ай бұрын
A common complaint for this youtuber
@johnallen7807
@johnallen7807 6 ай бұрын
@@binaway Makes you doubt the veracity of the whole thing doesn't it?
@richardcleveland8549
@richardcleveland8549 6 ай бұрын
@@johnallen7807 He does sometimes skate close to the truth . . . .
@johnallen7807
@johnallen7807 6 ай бұрын
@@richardcleveland8549 The "click bait" headlines on so many KZbin vids annoy me too! lol.
@BadgerGB
@BadgerGB 6 ай бұрын
No, it is the SMS Szent István, WWI dreadnought, explosion of HMS Barham is shown at 4:29 These are the only two existing film recordings of sinking battleships btw.
@frigland9167
@frigland9167 6 ай бұрын
Clickbait. No "ONe Epic Shot" here.
@formerlydistantorigins6972
@formerlydistantorigins6972 Ай бұрын
Nelson had the perfect name. She looks designed to follow the rule of 'just run straight at them'
@olwill1
@olwill1 6 ай бұрын
Was I napping? When did he relate the "One Epic Shot"?
@ericthemauve
@ericthemauve 2 ай бұрын
He never did. It's his usual clickbait nonsense.
@combridgeinternational391
@combridgeinternational391 2 ай бұрын
For clarity, the operation to Malta described in the video was in Operation “Pedestal”, 11-15 August 1942 and was the savour of the island, it was a strategic victory, raising the morale of the people and garrison of Malta, averting famine and an inevitable surrender.
@gruntforever7437
@gruntforever7437 6 ай бұрын
It amuses me the insults used as regards an older ship of war. Hood was older I do believe, would the author have insulted it the same way? Warspite was even older. The Rodney and Nelson was not the only ships designed or built to put all its main armament up front. This was a early response to the Washington Naval Treaty limiting displacement. They were looking for ways to maximize armament and armor on such a limited displacement. so frankly the insults were kind of stupid
@BrianSmith-ow9gy
@BrianSmith-ow9gy 6 ай бұрын
Specially when you consider how old today's Royal Navy ships are. Surviving Type 23s are slated to serve into the 2030s.
@BaconLick
@BaconLick 6 ай бұрын
​@@BrianSmith-ow9gy I remember them being commissioned in the nineties.
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 6 ай бұрын
Arguably, those 9 16" guns made the Nelson class the world's most powerful battleships, even more powerful than the USN Colorado class, armed with 8 16"/45 caliber guns. These guns IIRC were marginally more powerful than the guns mounted in the Colorado class and later North Carolina and South Dakota class until the USN developed the 2700lb "super heavy" armor piercing round for the MK6 and MK7 16" guns.
@garyhooper1820
@garyhooper1820 6 ай бұрын
You failed to mention the Iowa Class Fast Battleship. The six that were built for WWII .
@Kreatorisbackyt
@Kreatorisbackyt 6 ай бұрын
​@@garyhooper18204 Iowa class were built not 6
@knottyash9908
@knottyash9908 6 ай бұрын
You are correct. The 2700 pound ap round was a game changer. The us 16/45 guns used 6 90 lb bags of powder and the Iowa class used 6 110lb bags of powder out of a longer barrel giving them more range and accuracy. Bob Ballard and James Cameron both stated that observation of the Bismarck wreck indicated that the Rodney did more damage with her 16 inch guns than the much more modern king George 5 did with her 14 inch guns. To be fair the king George 5 quad mount 14 inch turrets were plagued with reliability issues. It was a 16 inch shell from Rodney that penetrated the Bismarck 14 inch conning tower and killed most of the senior officers on the Bismarck. Several 14 inch hits failed to penetrate the Bismarcks 13 inch armor belt.
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 6 ай бұрын
@@garyhooper1820 Granted, but as I DID mention the MK-7 guns that were only mounted in the Iowa class I thought that would be redundant.
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 6 ай бұрын
@@Kreatorisbackyt Six Iowa class were laid down with only four being completed although BB-66 (Kentucky) was launched incomplete from the Norfolk Naval Shipyard to clear the building way for an aircraft carrier (but never started IIRC.) BB-65 (Illinois) was not as far along as BB-66 and was scrapped on the building way. Part of Kentucky is still around, part of her bow was used to hurry completion of repairs to Wisconsin (BB 64) after that ship "busted her nose" when she collided with destroyer USS Eaton. Looking at the ship from her pier, if you know what to look for you can see the difference in construction techniques. Wisconsin is moored in Norfolk VA, about 10 or so miles from where my butt is planted as I write this. 😁
@chuckkline2970
@chuckkline2970 4 ай бұрын
Truly enjoyed this video.
@tedthesailor172
@tedthesailor172 6 ай бұрын
We didn't treat our battleships with much respect in peacetime...
@larrywmedford6587
@larrywmedford6587 6 ай бұрын
Your words make me think of the poem by Rudyard Kipling, I think it was titled "Tommy" It's Tommy this and Tommy that And chuck him out, the brute But it "Savior of his country" When the guns begin to shoot.
@theorenhobart
@theorenhobart 6 ай бұрын
i agree, certainly England and US could have saved a few more ( especially the carrier Enterprise ) but they are extremely costly just to look pretty and float around without being useful in modern war. England will always have HMS Victory
@robertbruce1887
@robertbruce1887 2 ай бұрын
Theorenhobart: Fortunately the U.S. kept their Iowa class Battleships
@megapangolin1093
@megapangolin1093 2 ай бұрын
Great video, great ship. Fantastic video footage, never seen that before. Don't forget that Rodney was present and was a key part of the sinking of the Bismark. How about a profile of Rodney?
@EllieMaes-Grandad
@EllieMaes-Grandad 6 ай бұрын
A clip of 'Japanese troops at Hong Kong' @ 9:00 [seen many times before] does not impress. Then again, this channel does a lot of such things . . .
@darrensmith6999
@darrensmith6999 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful bruisers love them (: Is it me or do they resemble a Star Wars Star Destroyer ship ?
@branofattrebates2847
@branofattrebates2847 3 ай бұрын
It's a shame that such a historical ship could not become a museum piece .
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen 6 ай бұрын
The NelRods were awesome.
@ouroboris
@ouroboris 6 ай бұрын
...12 knots per hour? I don't think that means what you think it means.
@michaelwhalen2442
@michaelwhalen2442 6 ай бұрын
Maybe the ship was accelerating...
@chipcook5346
@chipcook5346 6 ай бұрын
My suppositions: HMS Nelson had some high quality crews along the way. HMS Nelson had some talented leadership along the way. HMS Nelson had some really good luck along the way.
@mickshawforty
@mickshawforty 6 ай бұрын
Two great looking ships.
@danielkeel9265
@danielkeel9265 6 ай бұрын
Great video, but I really wish you wouldn't call it maliar, it's MalAya, as evidenced by it's modern name, Malaysia.
@squirepraggerstope3591
@squirepraggerstope3591 25 күн бұрын
It was HMS Nelson's by definition also "bizarre" sister ship, HMS Rodney, that reduced the German battleship, Bismarck to a blazing wreck in about half an hour.
@bunnyniyori6324
@bunnyniyori6324 Ай бұрын
Nelson clearly served well.
@cameronsienkiewicz6364
@cameronsienkiewicz6364 6 ай бұрын
lol, I couldn’t even imagine being on a ship, seeing an enemy warship on the horizon, and then immediately be told “we’re going to scuttle the ship, get to the life boats” .. You’re on a perfectly good ship that isn’t damaged in any way, no one is shooting at you, yet you’re about to intentionally sink your ship, climb into a lifeboat, and bob around in the open ocean for god knows how long, just because a ship appeared on the horizon .. I think at that point, I’d just surrender to the approaching ship.. you may be taken as a POW, but chances are at least you’ll get to stay on your ship and travel to the nearest enemy port (as a prisoner) .. at least you’ll survive (more than likely), the only downside is the enemy is able to seize whatever cargo your transporting
@maurotassinarizugnitauro2990
@maurotassinarizugnitauro2990 6 ай бұрын
Twelve knots per hour. Plz. A navy channel. I need no further explanation.
@tim31415
@tim31415 6 ай бұрын
You beat me to it.
@tim31415
@tim31415 6 ай бұрын
Perhaps she was accelerating?
@TheBestDog
@TheBestDog 6 ай бұрын
7:35 12 knots [per hour] is correct, though not typically how one refers to the speed of a ship. Did I miss something else?
@Samaldoful
@Samaldoful 6 ай бұрын
Correct, knots is its own measurement and needs no quantifying- however give the bloke a break it’s an interesting video and mainly well done.
@flickingbollocks5542
@flickingbollocks5542 6 ай бұрын
​​​@@TheBestDoga knot is one nautical mile per hour. If you add another per hour, (ie 12 nautical miles, per hour, per hour) it makes no sense unless you are accelerating.
@johnhallett5846
@johnhallett5846 2 ай бұрын
They were the results of the Washington Naval Treaty. 35,000 ton maximum displacement allowed. The Brits wanted to cram the most guns plus armor on that limitation and that was how they did it. I think the only other BB designed like that was the french Dunkurque class. It was a design not repeated by anyone else. The idea was that with the main battery concentrated like it was, they could save weight on armor.
@joeminella5315
@joeminella5315 6 ай бұрын
Good Vid, Thanks.
@ShaneKilpatrick-i4t
@ShaneKilpatrick-i4t 2 ай бұрын
Tough ship. Right name. Admiral was as hard as nails.
@williamkirk1156
@williamkirk1156 3 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, I love that ship and all ships like that when playing World of Warships. Few survive a full broadside blast and like the video says, you need only present a small section of your ship.
@sirjohng1
@sirjohng1 6 ай бұрын
Great vid thank you, thoroughly enjoyed it and learned a lot.
@ericthemauve
@ericthemauve 2 ай бұрын
Oh dear! Be careful what you 'learn' from Dark Seas. A lot of his content is woefully inaccurate. 🙄
@owenjones506
@owenjones506 3 ай бұрын
Nelson and Rodney were supposed to be much bigger to be more like the Hood ,but weight treaties curtailed this .
@ilikelampshades6
@ilikelampshades6 6 ай бұрын
HMS Rodney (HMS Nelsons sister ship) is the ship that killed the Bismark. For a while it was a 1 on 1 fight and the Rodney blew to bismark to pieces leaving it a firery mess
@johntim3491
@johntim3491 6 ай бұрын
Very true... Rodney took out 3 of Bismarck's 4 Main Turrets.
@ilikelampshades6
@ilikelampshades6 6 ай бұрын
@@johntim3491 I thought it took them all out. Who did the 4th turret?
@Isueng
@Isueng 16 күн бұрын
i heard one account that because it was so close some of the high velocity armour peircing shells were seen going straight through the bismark ^^
@skyden24195
@skyden24195 6 ай бұрын
Good video. However, I'd argue that HMS Nelson's demolition began when she was a target ship. lol. (Of course, if you look at how many times she was damaged during her service, maybe it could be said that her demolition started when she began to serve.) 🤔😏😄
@Beemer917
@Beemer917 Ай бұрын
You should have researched this one better because the Nelson's sister ship Rodney had a big part in Sinking the Bismarck and had the same Forward Design of guns. Although both of the ships were pretty much worn out guns and engines by this time
@kuribayashi84
@kuribayashi84 6 ай бұрын
Every time I see this thing in WoW, I’m taken slightly aback. I always think that something is missing. 😂
@TeufelHunden-o2d
@TeufelHunden-o2d 8 күн бұрын
It may not have been the most practical ship but it sure "Looked the Business" didn't she!
@neilashley8460
@neilashley8460 2 ай бұрын
Some of the archive film is Pathe newsreel of Nelson's sister ship HMS Rodney shelling German fortifications on Alderney by firing over the Cotentin peninsular.
@pasha_che
@pasha_che Ай бұрын
5:35 NOT Bismark
@moosifer3321
@moosifer3321 6 ай бұрын
And no mention of the `Scapa Incident`, Nelson`s Stoker and `Girlriend`, resulting in the ship being greeted with BAaaaaa?? No mention of Rod-ol or Nels-ol. as the sisters were known due to them resembling Tankers. Enjoy the channel, sometimes, sub`d always.
@bahoonies
@bahoonies 6 ай бұрын
@moosifer3321 Do tell. I haven't heard that particular story.
@moosifer3321
@moosifer3321 6 ай бұрын
Apparently one of the Stokers was caught in Barracks, in bed with a Sheep - he later claimed he thought it was a WREN in a Duffle Coat, hence the Baas.@@bahoonies
@philhawley1219
@philhawley1219 6 ай бұрын
A WREN wearing a duffle coat! The most convincing excuse ever.
@charlesarmstrong5292
@charlesarmstrong5292 2 ай бұрын
A nice concise round up of this great ships history. By the Way ...this is how Malaya is pronounced Ma lay a not Ma lie ya.
@john1703
@john1703 5 ай бұрын
At 7:38, oops sorry, but 12 knots per hour?
@alanmoore2197
@alanmoore2197 5 ай бұрын
What a shame that neither of these famous ships was saved as a museum ship, worse - not a single battleship of any kind - the stupidity of it all!
@lastguy8613
@lastguy8613 6 ай бұрын
Allied sea power was the reason the Axis never repulsed a amphibious landing in ww2
@markwheeler202
@markwheeler202 2 ай бұрын
Dieppe?
@ironmantooltime
@ironmantooltime 6 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@robertgentile7198
@robertgentile7198 6 ай бұрын
Guns. not cannons!
@garyhorton9827
@garyhorton9827 4 ай бұрын
Exactly! Guns are rifled, cannons are not!
@edhuber3557
@edhuber3557 2 ай бұрын
Seems the 3rd main gun mount was behind-&-below the 2nd, limiting to off-angle forward targets. As such, diagonal-to-target course would seem similar to common design (i.e. 3rd mount rear) which also needed diagonal course to engage forward targets. Perhaps the degree-of-diagonal course might still give slight advantage, and yes, there were other pros-&-cons, but this touted pro seems less so.
@EllieMaes-Grandad
@EllieMaes-Grandad 6 ай бұрын
Grounded outside Portsmouth harbour - who was court-martialled for that silly mistake?
@barbararice6650
@barbararice6650 6 ай бұрын
British battleships are by far the most beautiful things ever built, and here's why not a single penny was spent to make them beautiful 😐
@jackjude
@jackjude 6 ай бұрын
The majority are conspiously ugly, especially compaired to Germany's WW2 battleships. Rodney and Nelson had their charm though.
@barbararice6650
@barbararice6650 6 ай бұрын
@@jackjude That's my point those German battleships look like they were designed by toilet water ponces 👈😾
@eriknewman5288
@eriknewman5288 6 ай бұрын
Too bad the once proud British Navy can't even perform shore patrol. What a pathetic state of affairs.
@wodantheviking
@wodantheviking 6 ай бұрын
Not quite true. The RN has been shooting down drones and missiles in the Red Sea.
@rossmansell5877
@rossmansell5877 6 ай бұрын
explain please................
@lesigh1749
@lesigh1749 6 ай бұрын
@@wodantheviking Can they figure out a way to target Dinghies?
@eriknewman5288
@eriknewman5288 6 ай бұрын
@rossmansell5877 the British navy can't even put planes on their flight decks. They don't have enough ships to perform basic functions.
@captainsleeman9787
@captainsleeman9787 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, but they've got diversity, lots of diversity.
@jtns2845
@jtns2845 6 ай бұрын
most of the videos don’t match the audio.
@EllieMaes-Grandad
@EllieMaes-Grandad 6 ай бұрын
As usual on this channel. Always used multiple times too.
@morstyrannis1951
@morstyrannis1951 5 ай бұрын
You’re right, but in fairness there’s a pretty limited selection to choose from.
@seadoggozo-fishingguitarsa1837
@seadoggozo-fishingguitarsa1837 Ай бұрын
My dad was on Nelson. 1937 to early 1943.
@jamesbaker223
@jamesbaker223 2 ай бұрын
Nelson had a very unique answer to when you cross the T. She had all her armor along with her guns pointed direct to front at the enemies side. Battleships are tanks on water.
@raywest3834
@raywest3834 2 ай бұрын
Richelieu and Jean Bart had a great solution to this problem too, with all eight 15" guns able to fire directly ahead.
@atompunk5575
@atompunk5575 6 ай бұрын
It looks funky, but it has a reputation 😮
@MichaelCampin
@MichaelCampin 6 ай бұрын
Try the fact that she was capable of 22 knots not 12
@kizzyp2735
@kizzyp2735 6 ай бұрын
.......... didn't he say her speed was reduced to 12 knots following damage??
@denysvlasenko1865
@denysvlasenko1865 3 ай бұрын
What are you talking about, "unique advantage"? All somewhat modern classes of UK battleships and battlecruisers could fire full broadside (they had all turrets on centerline, no "wing" turrets, which allowed them to fire all of them to a side).
@iancarr8682
@iancarr8682 6 ай бұрын
Overlooked the cheese loss!
@grolfe3210
@grolfe3210 23 күн бұрын
I rather think the design was the way to just get enough firepower into a ship of that size and splitting the guns to front and back would be less efficient. The third gun is tucked in behind the elevated second gun and so it can probably not shoot any more forward than if it had been at the back. They were not under attack from other ships when they were involved in landings and hitting the land targets so a broadside position would not be of any risk.
@wirz17
@wirz17 5 ай бұрын
The moment where German Tank got the most big ammunition😂😂
@daneelolivaw602
@daneelolivaw602 6 ай бұрын
"A floating relic," and yet it was another floating relic that did most of the damage to Bismarck.
@daneelolivaw602
@daneelolivaw602 2 ай бұрын
Some of these people haven't got a clue what they are talking about. It gives me the hump when they say cannons instead of Guns.
@phbrinsden
@phbrinsden 6 ай бұрын
Because Rodney and Nelson looked a bit like oil tankers they were nicknamed Rodnol and Nelsol. But Rodney’s 16” guns disassembled Bismarck in short order.
@creanero
@creanero 6 ай бұрын
"A floating relic" the ship was less than 20 years old.
@jeebusk
@jeebusk 5 ай бұрын
the pace of progress was much quicker back then.
@creanero
@creanero 5 ай бұрын
@@jeebusk true, but still.
@roncotton7963
@roncotton7963 4 ай бұрын
How’s your blackberry doing?
@CmdCodd
@CmdCodd 5 ай бұрын
Now this would have been an amazing museum ship... (It really is a shame).
@abnurtharn2927
@abnurtharn2927 6 ай бұрын
The Allied Ship That Gathered All Its Firepower for One Epic Shot?
@netwrench6570
@netwrench6570 6 ай бұрын
Did we miss it?
@johnrflinn
@johnrflinn 6 ай бұрын
@@netwrench6570 The shot not heard around the world.
@richardcleveland8549
@richardcleveland8549 6 ай бұрын
@@netwrench6570 You blinked . . . .😂
@abnurtharn2927
@abnurtharn2927 6 ай бұрын
@@netwrench6570Don´t know about you, but I missed it.
@ericthemauve
@ericthemauve 2 ай бұрын
Shameless clickbait.
@brucewilliams1892
@brucewilliams1892 3 ай бұрын
Do you believe a regular three- or four-turret design could not fire broadsides?
@stewarts8597
@stewarts8597 2 ай бұрын
a shame they couldn't keep her as a museum piece
@Isueng
@Isueng 16 күн бұрын
yes a real shame due to the lack of resources they couldnt have kept the rodney being so unique and sinking the bismark ((imagine how popular it would be today) i reckon if the people were asked in a real democracy or represented properly they would have chosen to keep her) D
@dovidell
@dovidell 6 ай бұрын
interesting footage of HMS Barham exploding , to presumably indicate what would happen if a Battleship hit a ( sea) mine
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