The (Almost) Shortcuts of Hollow Bastion

[@Laenthor]

Kh1 is surprisingly very robust in terms of preventing sequence breaks. An example that comes to mind is in the wonderland tea party room, if you enter it before fighting the cards and queen, which is impossible without glitches I think, there's a bush in front of the door with text specifically made for it telling it blocks the way.

[@Leet-iz2fz]

I read that if you don't progress the Monstro story before fighting Riku-Ansem, then go back after beating him and do Monstro, all the cutscenes will change. Riku will still be there, but possessed by Ansem and behaving accordingly, with Sora calling him out on not "really" being Riku.

[@Laenthor]

@@Leet-iz2fz Sort of. There are a few new lines but most of the changes are just removed segments of cutscenes so it's not that worth it. Another cool detail is that if you finish deep jungle before wonderland, snow white will be there instead of alice.

[@hunterlawrence3573]

@@Laenthor I actually think the Snow White version of the cutscene is better, since you already know Alice has been kidnapped. Seeing Snow White for the first time, however, is more of a surprise.

[@keyblader1985]

I love how thoroughly the developers thought considered every possibility when designing this game. However, several years ago I came across one serious oversight. Not sure how well known it is, but I've never seen anyone else mention it before. Also I've only tried this on the original PS2 release of the game so I don't know if it's still in the new versions of the game. If you complete all of Neverland without ever hitting a save point, you will not be able to return to the ship at all. Your only destination option is the clock tower, and there's no way to return to the ship from there. The only fix for the problem is during the point of the game in which the Phantom boss fight becomes available, at which point you can't disembark directly at the clock tower and must manually go there from the ship. At this time you can now disembark at the ship, so thankfully the lockout is not permanent.

[@Hagot428]

So you are only locked out between completing Neverland and completing hollow bastion 2? That's not that bad, unless you really want to do your synth grinding then I suppose.

[@vincentadamsvga]

An understandable oversight since you wouldn't expect players to not be saving at all.

[@kinggamer19]

Was just about to say! it's wild how they had things in place for situations like this, Even though players would never be able to perform some of these to see they took it into account anyway, I got to love their thoroughness

[@Felnal]

@@kinggamer19 Honestly this sounds less like something the devs took into account and more an unintentional fix to an oversight that never came up in testing.

[@KeyofTime15]

I love your use of the Chain of Memories Sprites and Mickey Glove to indicate what you're trying to talk about Your videos are always really interesting and easy to follow too, I already knew about the dumbo skip but pretty much all the others were cool to learn about for the first time here

[@Kaminoyouni]

6:42 you don't know how much I appreciate this fun fact, this drove my younger self mad trying to figure out how to reach these and what they would have triggered, after 20 years, finally an answer.

[@KHGuides]

Great video, elbowjuice! The Mario Sunshine elements you added were so good. 🤣

[@Rowboatsalot]

Beast sliding into view with the Pianta speech made me laugh out loud This video is a banger, I really hope it pops off

[@Niosai]

The editing here is PRISTINE

[@elbow_juice]

The most interesting things here to me were what I found in Library Skip and the Great Crest fun facts. What did you think?

[@mayac69]

I loved seeing how much detail was put into making sure things worked like they should. I don't know why entering the Chapel from a different entrance should matter at all from a programming standpoint , but they bothered to make sure anyway.

[@ProPandaPlays]

your voice is SUPER annoyinggggg lol

[@hipersonicc9736]

Congratulations, your editing stile IS wonderful. It really shows your love for KH, Mario, games in general and video editing.

[@PerseusisRad]

It’s almost frustrating how solid the games are, you really can’t skip anything major… except one thing. Apparently if you could clip into Ursula 2’s boss arena, it would be counted as having completed the world, which means ‘All Worlds’ would be faster. Normally you need Dolphin Kick, and if you don’t have it but still somehow got to the entrance, there’s an invisible wall. So a clip would have to be found.

[@_fudgepop01]

WELL you can clip through the gate before getting the red trinity somehow IIRC

[@khaztaraine]

This video was absolutely fascinating! I spent so much time as a kid trying to find different ways to get around Great Crest. KH1 really is solidly built against sequence breaking, it's interesting. Also, the editing is fantastic.

[@fisherdotogg]

Man they TESTED this world huh. Wild how thorough the QA for this game was

[@LanzTheMaster]

World class world design

[@cap6733]

let's go new elbow juice

[@ViolinSpeedruns]

Really good video! I remember spending many hours trying to find a skip for the big elevator to no avail, but it's still a cool skip we can use in the randomizer, since you can stack multiple High Jumps and Glides. Also huge respect for the PaRappa music at the end 👀

[@KaimArgonarEyyyy]

6:48 Thank you... thank you. My childhood mystery brainworm has been solved. I always wondered what that did as well, or if there was a secret chest there, or if I was just too stupid to get to that place.

[@TheHaddonfieldRegistry]

As a lifelong KH fan, this was fascinating

[@jhonerycontreras9676]

What difference does it make to be a lifelong kh fan lol

[@TheHaddonfieldRegistry]

@@jhonerycontreras9676 I'll leave you to connect the dots on this one

[@jhonerycontreras9676]

@TheHaddonfieldRegistry I'm pretty sure if a one month long kh fan saw this video, the person could have the same exact fascination you had watching this video.

[@Ripperchipper]

When elbow juice post Knee water shivers

[@aosth5]

Who needs the keyblade when you have FLUDD?

[@keybladeterra]

KH1 Hollow Bastion holds a special place in my heart so this was a treat. Love the level of detail you went to and the missing link joke at the end 🤣

[@KessiaClips]

Great video. I absolutely love the Mario Sunshine editing and sound design 😂

[@asackofgravy1001]

I got recommended this video out of the blue, and I ended up binging every video you've got on this channel. I'm shocked you don't have more subscribers, but at least you've got one more now. Keep up the good work. Your love and appreciation for Kingdom Hearts is rather evident in the way you present your content.

[@Sonicshadowsilver2]

If I remember correctly, the Castle Gates switch to Great Crest is always active in the Japanese PS2 version. It’s also possible to do Great Crest Skip with Superglide on 30 FPS, however you’re already done with Hollow Bastion at that point.

[@henarten]

your use of the CoM sprites in demonstrations makes me UNREASONABLY happy

[@thogameskanaal]

Anyone saying Kingdom Hearts 1 isn't a platformer should watch this video right now!

[@mazkeraid4039]

It even puts Super Mario Sunshine to shame in regards to multiple ways to play different.

[@snakwa]

Hollow Bastion my beloved. Great video as usual, I would have never thought these skips up and I really liked the presentation.

[@timoram26]

Marvellous video and editing! I really like the tone of the vid and its investigation, and it puts a great spotlight onto the tricks that the devs put into making sure players don't use story-breaking shortcuts.

[@thomasstolz9777]

you dont even know how much i loved the sunshine elements in this video. kh and sunshine are my fav games of all time. ty for this❤❤

[@jaynajuly2140]

I tried a "no menu screen" challenge and the only time I had to pause was for equipping High Jump in Monstro to cross the gap in the mouth to fight Parasite Cage round 2.. The gap should be crossable with Dumbo, but you also need High Jump to get his summon gem. If anyone has an idea of how to skip that part, I would greatly appreciate it!

[@caldw615]

You can get Dumbo with regular jumping after beating the first Parasite Cage encounter. The layout of the platforms change enough that you can make your way up to him with ledge grabs. Unfortunately you can't make the last jump with him since you need to be in combat for him to be active for that High Jump. You can make it with Glide if you leave and do Neverland first, but without a menu you can't equip that anyway. However you don't need to actually finish Monstro to finish the game if I recall. If you have completed Halloween Town and Atlantica that can work too, but not sure if there is a way to reach the Ursula fight without needing to equip Mermaid Kick.

[@jaynajuly2140]

@@caldw615 oh interesting, I'll have to try harder to find a good route up the trash pile!

[@caldw615]

@@jaynajuly2140 There's a no High Jump run by Majoris239 that shows an example of how to get to Dumbo without it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZq5fHSwgKyNbKMsi=sIFKi0ubd93VEszS

[@jexusdomel5194]

@@jaynajuly2140 ive messed around monstro on my own and if you return to the first parasite cage arena and kill the enemies there you can open up a hole that drops you from the top of the mouth room. without glide you cant do much tho i think. also im pretty sure theres some way of reaching the door to the second parasite cage fight by rolling in a specific fashion and then jumping on the bones on the door below it, i think it was in 30 fps for the record

[@jaynajuly2140]

@@jexusdomel5194 interesting! I have heard that Hook's ship may appear at a 30% chance if you lock one of the keyholes (Halloween Town, in this case, as Atlantica requires a pause to equip Dolphin Kick) so if that's true, it could be possible to get Glide before finishing Monstro

[@SinclairS2Engine]

Thanks for solving the mystery of those unreachable sewer switches. I remember spending hours as a kid trying to play around with the switches to no avail. Funny how you learn new stuff after playing a game for 20+ years.

[@catinspace184]

Great video! I absolutely love that you added mario sunshine sounds

[@Gryzeus]

This was pleasant and interesting - I too was surprised to see the various barriers in place to prevent sequence breaking when I was playing with modded movement.

[@Baralai]

6:47 omg uncovered memory of messing with the switches for ages as a child

[@TheEclipsedLock]

I absolutely love the Sunshine level intros used here as I watch the video ꓷ:

[@NobodyDaxian]

why does Mario Sunshine music oddly fit with KH

[@GreenRequiem]

absolutely in love with the presentation of this video

[@whattheheckification]

Now this is some quality KH content. Subbed.

[@Toasty94]

Stuff like this is my favorite KH content to watch, I love seeing how the games are put together. Great video!

[@tannermccauley4894]

as someone who played a TON of mario sunshine growing up and even more so of kingdom hearts 1 I love the editing here :3 who knew the music and camera angles work so well

[@JIP214]

Your editing style has improved so much in such a short time! Keep up the great work man

[@marcocloutier4387]

lowkey a love letter to mario sunshine at the same time, love it :')

[@WheelBite_]

The editing here is STELLAR! Great video

[@NeeldTheMaster]

DId not know I needed super mario sunshine styled content for kingdom hearts

[@jeanriviere2599]

18:18 I see what you did there 😏 Missing Link stays true to its name. Great video 👍

[@lucaskincanyon7393]

I ALWAYS WAS SO CURIOUS WHAT WAS IN THAT WATERWAY SWITCH TYSM!!!

[@PurpleLPikmin]

I love the Sunshine theming for this video. It works weirdly well.

[@JonathanQShrimpling]

Great video! Superb editing on this one

[@henrikleppa7632]

6:40 -- Ah, thank you so much! Those extra waterway switches drove me mad as a kid. I had read somewhere that they couldn't be interacted with, but you're the first one to provide proof. ⭐ 16:10 -- Nitpick: "Human form" is a misnomer, because as Master Xehanort said in DDD, Maleficent is an "evil fairy"! 😈🧚 😆

[@Tsukumoo]

I really loved the editing on this video holy shit

[@twentyhundred2000]

6:48. wow, that switch always looked so tantalizing! i wonder if the puzzle in the waterway was originally intended to be more complex.

[@therealsilverking4802]

I have 2 points that may help out in the Great Crest area... 1) If you could somehow activate the Heartless fight and make it back to the first platform, you could summon Dumbo, gain Height, then Glide. 2) I discovered a glitch a few years back in Halloweentown where you could infinitely jump (similar to the original PS2 Release in the Fallen Destiny Islands... The link to my video is here if you want to use it as reference for my point: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppWudaOiqLRmpMk By discussing with one of my commentors I found that the reason you can infinitely jump is because there is a missing section in the Floor Hitbox, which means that the game can't properly calculate the distance between Sora's feet and the ground... thus cancelling the fall animation... if you could somehow use a mod to see the floor hitbox, you could find a lot of these hidden hotspots. I doubt they'd be in the Great Crest as there is space underneath the platform, but there could be one in the Riku 2 Boss Room somewhere, which could allow quick access to the top layer. I hope I was able to help you out, man

[@Aeba]

gosh i love the edits in this!!

[@maugzsr556]

As one who speedruns this game, I really enjoyed this video! Finding a way to get The Emblem Pieces quicker and getting across the Great Crest would DEFINITELY shave off a bit of time, making WR even more bonkers!

[@doritosdip4259]

The editing on this video is insanely good, some of the best I’ve seen on KZbin! If you have ever thought about being a full time editor I think you would go far. I’m very impressed and wish you all the success with your channel 👍

[@nickmcsleighten]

Excellent work! Really interesting premise and theoretical skips

[@SpooxyCowboy1911]

Your videos are so good I expected you had hundreds of thousands of followers.

[@Roxim]

The Riku Ansem fight restart reminded me of Zelda's Back in Time skips, which made me think, if there ever was a Back in Time for this game, it should be called Power of Waking or PoW for short. Would be hilarious.

[@SilverJakler]

All the Super Mario Sunshine stuff in this video made me realize something: Kerchak is a Chuckster!

[@ErdrickHero]

Space Paranoids is my favorite, for it's music (field and battle).

[@y4rdkat]

The Mario Sunshine touches are well implemented

[@denismcdonald1454]

Great video! Subscription earned.

[@neochozo]

The fact that all of these other things you’re mentioning about battles not triggering or rooms being in a certain state is made even more hilarious by the fact that COR Skip exists in this game’s sequel.

[@chackbro1]

The Mario Sunshine presentation was... different. I liked it

[@Nite-Rise]

I remember going around Hollow Bation trying to look for a way into the Unknown secret boss room in the original KH1 Trying to see if there was a way to trigger that fight.

[@LuckyLuke_94]

Lovely how this game still has some hidden features

[@kertuo]

Thank you for telling me what the one corner switch does in the waterway. That one switch was annoying me ever since I was a kid

[@PirateKiraiOni]

ok i didn't all those skips thank you i might use them when i re buy on steam kh and thank you algorithm for ONCE it gave me a video that i liked

[@Ranesbane]

As many times as I've played this game, the beginning just made me realize I have never once used the Dumbo summon 😂

[@Martyste]

Very fun video! Actually, some of these skips are possible in Randomizer, because you can find multiple High-Jumps and Glides. I'm pretty sure Double High Jump is enough to do Library Skip: it is useful if you haven't found the two randomised books required to clear the path through the library. Skipping the great Crest platform requires you at least 2 High Jumps and 3 Glides. But that's it for doable skips, the rest that you mention remains shut.

[@niklasw.1297]

the skips with potential if extra jump height could be acquired are actually useful in KH1 Rando.

[@realkingtoast]

Im no genius but i think this guy likes Mario Sunshine

[@yawg691]

Just started the vid and I'm auto hooked

[@elisabethheiman2104]

6:50 I already knew that the buttons don’t do anything. When I was looking up if it was possible to reach those buttons while I was playing that particular part, I saw someone who used glitches to get to the button and tried to interact with it but had the same result and were just stuck there. However, I also found out that you can lock on to the buttons that you can interact with, but not the ones that are normally unreachable, which I believe is further evidence that they’re just decorative, like you said, and never intended for the player to interact with them.

[@Robbie_Haruna]

Kingdom Hearts 1 level design can be really hit or miss, but Hollow Bastion as a whole is absolutely pristine.

[@jeffrey1954]

Imagine there is a way to bug Neverland to give you the ability to fly outside of it.

[@syrelian]

My presumption about how the Maleficent Cutscene with the Grand Hall works is that when Maleficent is the next fight, a flag is set that activates "two" cutscenes One when you enter Chapel, which silently plants Sora in Grand Hall invisible to show the Grand Hall cutscene, which ends with a flag that says "Okay now put Sora in Chapel" and also updating the viewed cutscenes so that it doesn't replay every time you walk into the Chapel or Grand Hall The room, as you noted, doesn't actually update until after Dragon Mal, but this also explains why walking into Grand Hall starts that cutscene, and Sora becomes weirdly invisible

[@eddysegafan6655]

A very concise & charming video with mario sunshine themes in the background 🙌 +1 sub from me

[@Kirbyluver2]

this video made me want to play mario sunshine o.o

[@coaster1235]

i also hope someday we'll find missing-link

[@jexusdomel5194]

just for the record, people in kh1 randos use superglide or the high jump upgrades to skip the great crest area. so it really is feasible with a bit more height or speed

[@magicsagges3786]

Babe wake up, ElbowJuice dropped

[@chavito808]

The thumbnail reminds me of Metal Gear Solid

[@Mookiegamez]

Why couldn’t I have seen this before my 3rd finished playthrough of kh1😭😭😭 I hated traversing through hollow bastion, it was such a drag

[@boiyonetta]

Imagine how easy hollow bastion would be with KH3D's and KHIII's Flow Motion

[@Seloliva1015]

6:42 I spent hours trying to get in there as an adult 😅

[@flamingbird09]

I hope you don't get burn out from doing too much KH content ❤

[@Bchulo88]

Missed opportunity, not screaming that intro like mario :(

[@edfreak9001]

i feel like you could use the proposed Waterway skip route to skip needing to do the library puzzle maybe, but given the point is likely for speedruns I can understand why this would maybe be pointless

[@shadow19734]

Is 5:00 still available on PC or did they patch that? I get REALLY close but he doesn't geab. But im also not doing in perfectly so i cant tell

[@elbow_juice]

Its super tight, but should still be in the game. I've never gotten it on PS3/4, but got it for the footage on the steam version. It seemed like going to 120fps made it easier, but I don't know what the reasoning for that would be.

[@shadow19734]

Thank you for responding, I was losing my mind. Yeah it must be really tight, I've tried so many times. I'll try 120.

[@elbow_juice]

@@shadow19734 It definitely took at least an hour of attempts before I got it (and I got nothing from my hour+ of console attempts). Here's a video I had found of this for another reference, this was before KH on PC so it seems possible on some system lol. Good luck! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHisimmQhK1qgck

[@TheSonicbuum]

Personally for Final Fantasy XII the first one. All I would want them to do to make it a little bit better is give you more down time. More towns the ability to just loaf around and shop and grind levels in open areas earlier on in the game, it would have been nice to have some quest that were not only in Pulse like 13-2. I have beaten every ff game save for 11, 12, and 16. Almost done with 12. But 13 and 8 are my favorites despite the hate. I dream of remastered version of both with quality of life improvements and graphic upgrades.

[@Thefriendlybulletkin]

Amazing video man and hey any tips for bbs im finally starting it after kh2 critical

[@MysticMagic239]

Little idea, but would it be possible to make one of the partners (like donald/goofy/beast) jump beneath sora to give him a boost in the air? I'm not sure if they would move him but if they can, doing it in a corner might increase the player's jump height

[@emilyjones8713]

10:14 Would it be possible to dumbo up to the second floor height, jump off and use an aerial elixir+thunder to quickly hit the rock?

[@elbow_juice]

I just did some attempts at this and it looks like it's still a little too short, by about half Sora's height by my estimate. Great idea though! I hadn't thought to try that.

[@emilyjones8713]

@@elbow_juice Ahh shoot, thanks for trying!

[@allthatremain5357]

I wonder what would happen if you were able to poison Riku Ansem and exit the area as he's dying. If movement would be restricted the same frame he's knocked out then I wonder if there's any leeway in the game still registering DoT within a frame or so of exiting.

[@StrikeDuelist]

all this was gone in k2 :( no explore

[@Bravidunno]

Question: why does Sora shrink when riding Dumbo?

[@gnawnickvods939]

Bro making theoretical videos

[@bigchungus7870]

Did you just say missing link in a kingdom's hearts video? Is that a Kingdom Hearts:Missing Link reference?!

[@BurkhardtGaming]

4 years from now, nintendo will sue you for infringing on the Mario sunshine patent.

[@shadeblackwolf1508]

Many games from this era have proxy, a glitch where to prevent softlocking you due to overlapping collision, the game will throw you into the sky. does KH have proxy?