The Animators Behind Vegeta's FIRST FIGHT!

[@Clay-Chap-Stuff]

I absolutely LOVED the animation on Gohma's head, It's like if the animator remembered that one scene from the Buu saga where Vegeta yells a Goku and wanted to top it. It's so refreshing to see Dragon Ball have a more comedic animation style for the more comedic scenes. Thank you Ajay for writing up the animator credits. Highlights in the bar scenes were also a touch I loved, very atmospheric. A lot of anime just throw over a colour gradient but they went all in with Two opposite highlight colours , chef's kiss.

[@redkingrauri3769]

The shot right before that with Degusu was surprisingly fluid too despite it having little action. Lotta character in that little fidget and overshoot he does after the phone call.

[@orbboom6119]

I loved the Gomah scene

[@King_Luigi]

_"You idiot, how could you?! Don't you have any sense at all! LET IT KISS YOUR WOMAN!!"_

[@LeviKanal]

That character acting with Gomah and Degesu probably impressed me the most this episode

[@cheeseonyomama]

Seriously! I was watching it like "wait, what? This is animated like crazy! The facial expressions alone."

[@TeeHallumsYT]

The return of the one... the only... THE Yamamuro. DBS Vegeta jumpscare

[@Wahid_on_youtobe]

Please read the Qur'an

[@Uxie78]

@@Wahid_on_youtobeEhh, 6/10

[@itousatha5359]

​@@Uxie78you should be ashamed

[@itousatha5359]

I KNEW IT

[@talonsandspears8129]

​@@Wahid_on_youtobe why are you asking him to do that?

[@soyakat]

Even THE Yamamuro allowing fun in this is amazing, Daima continues to impress me each week. It's also so refreshing seeing so many new talents in this show that we are not used to see in db. Osamu sakata in db is so wild and hopefully we can continue to see more and more industry stars in future episodes

[@mirahsan2]

casual dragon ball and anime fan here but Ii'm glad to see individual animators are getting attention this way. considering pay and work hours, they deserve it all

[@OneeUp1]

The Degesu Gomah part was lowkey my favorite part of the episode, i didn't realize his head was in his mouth for a frame. So fun and fluid

[@anenemystand5582]

I thought you weren't gonna mention that Degesu bit of animation for a second. Would it be crazy to say its my favorite part of the episode?

[@AnimeAjay]

Nope, it was mine too!

[@Wahid_on_youtobe]

​@@AnimeAjayplease read the Qur'an

[@lyzellandarmanisworld8165]

I’m glad we finally got to see Vegeta and Piccolo in some action in the Demon World. It was funny seeing the relationship between Mini Goku and Vegeta greeting each Mini Goku’s team was meeting up with Vegeta and the others. I loved your review for this episode, AnimeAjay.

[@weeeeeeev]

Agree on how lovely the scene with Gomah was Now that Yamamuro isn't the designer anymore it's now kinda fun to see him doing corrections here and there Also shoutout to the character designs on the nameless characters, continuing to help the demon world feel really alive alongside the uniqueness of the club scene

[@shofan0456]

Tbh, I'm happy to see Yamamuro here! I like his artwork well enough and I don't think he's the worst thing this franchise has ever done visually.

[@BrandonHanners]

Instead of steadily building up to an amazing episode and then taking a rest, they paced themselves for the first few episodes and then took a step back on episode 7 but only to firmly plant their foot to deliver a wallop with episode 8 and this episode was part of the follow through.

[@TopShonenRanks]

Osamu Sakata, kinda like Kozue a bit ago for me, is another animator I feel like I’ve overlooked but definitely one I’m happy appeared on this show. His Degesu character acting almost reminds me of MYOUN’s work and Hiroo Nagano’s work on Frieren with that one scene of Stark and Fern. And the exaggerated Goma stuff is so fun. Also the rimlighting in the club scene was fantastic and kinda made me think of Bleach TYBW. And Shun Sawai showing up more is great because it further enforces Daima being a show by Dragon Ball fans and for Dragon Ball fans (except if you just want 2uper lmao)

[@golsitito4492]

Great animation, awesome effects and just an OK story

[@dennist.8210]

Yammyyyyy! I actually really like those few frames of his Goku he did lol. I've always said that should he not be doing designs, it's still a plus to have him on to do corrections here and there. Ensures things are polished!

[@ChristopherBrekke]

Been saying it since DBS. I thought Yamamuro would do better as a supervisor rather than character designer. So, I'm glad that he was able to positively contribute to modern Dragon Ball.

[@TotallyNotMark]

great vid son!

[@Jellysfrickingstuff]

Ya know whats funny is the first fight didn’t need to be on screen at all. It was really weird from a story telling perspective to be in the middle of a confrontation to just say “they must be those guys you beat up last night” and then flash back to the actual entire fight. They literally just wanted to show us vegeta fighting more

[@gokunenn4243]

I mean literally most of the second half was completely pointless and filler-esque. We didn't need to see him and Piccolo beating down the random thiefs either, because there was no narrative reason for them to steal their ship if it was going to be returned literally the very same episode. It felt like executive mandated fighting for the sake of fighting.

[@negano5654]

Thanks for another animation breakdown, Ajay!!! i gotta say the Shun Sawai artwork looks almost like Toriyama's design in paper and in animation. Its really well detailed and i wanna followng because i appreciate that more of these animators who make Dragon Ball characters feel like how we read them or watched back in the day. I agree on the storyboard opinions. The Degesu animation was also very good. Such fluidity from Osamu, Degesu looked a real person with how his cape moved and the mouth movement. I hope he has more work in Daima because it looked so natural than other animation styles in this episode and Daima.

[@kevincmejia]

Thank you Ajay, you cannot imagine how much im enjoying this breakdowns, just like in the good 'ol days

[@cooperbrandt757]

Look forward to these every week. Keep it up 👊🏼

[@StephenB-z4s]

They definately set a new standard for themselves with the animation. It has been a fun/light and entertaining series so far.

[@baconsugargamer988]

I’m so glad Daima is here, I can finally use the references on for small characters fighting and height consistently

[@auswinr2893]

I was a little surprised at Gomah part, because I don't think I have ever seen a conversation in Dragon Ball with this much fluidity in movement and exagerration.

[@Edelweiss1102]

I don't think anybody has an issue with Yammamuro if he just does what he did here. Do corrections where necessary for consistency and let the animators have fun. He is still one of DBs most veteran animators, so it can't hurt having his experience and direction on board. But god am I glad that stiff plastic characters with highlights everywhere are a thing of the past. But I said it before, it's really great to see legends like Nakatsuru and Yammamuro coming together with some fresh and very skilled you blood to bring us Daima. It keeps being a blast.

[@givenofuks222]

I think they just shouldn't use his character designs

[@Andromeda-lo6lf]

​@@givenofuks222 when he's adding his personal flair to other's designs he allows himself to have fun and doesn't try to override everything, when he's the face of the show, well we all know what happened

[@MixtheSkele]

Daima Balls

[@Helix1101]

Daima Balls

[@andr0zzsenpai]

Daima Balls

[@BRsPedro]

Funny how you have almost nothing but praise for this ep, but when you say that the model consistency takes a nose down, that really stood out to me while watching, specially considering how on model and polished everything looks in Daima, so to me this is the worst looking episode, still great, but the worst. Daima set the bar so high I don't even know how we could watch DBS melting back in the day.

[@AnimeAjay]

I guess it depends where your priorities are, really. For me, episode 7 remains the worst due to its bad board and kinda nothing visuals. Whereas this had a super polished first half, and while the second half's art was all over the place, the excellent animation ensured it didn't really distract me all that much.

[@themanofmarvels6573]

​@@AnimeAjay When will you think there will be Blurays and do you think these issues will be fixed?

[@vegetachiva]

These series are beautifully done ❤❤❤❤

[@alexallen126]

The fight with Goku and Vegeta takes animation from the Broly fight! Specifically when Vegeta is taking off his jacket and punching Broly. They used that animation!

[@noelrodriguez6625]

Babe wake up Ajay is talking about Yamamuro again

[@JoeNeutrino]

Why isn't Daima more popular? This is why we can't have nice things.

[@GhostWind78]

Because a lot of modern fans are just shonen fans who mostly care about hype action set pieces and sakuga every ten seconds over world building and character moments, it shows who’s a fan of toriyama’s style and who’s not

[@Lagia7]

many Dragon Ball "fans" are just Deebeezee fans, who only watched Z and Super. They mostly care about hype energy beam slop and new rainbow transformations every arc so they can make more tiktok phonk edits with an idiotic sharpness filter

[@gokunenn4243]

Because people want Z and Super's anime mindless fighting. That's all. That and they for some reason assume the mini designs means a less mature story despite it being aimed at literally the oldest fans who are nostalgic for kid Goku.

[@DanielBakerFoster]

I loved that scene from Gomah. It's just rare to see very cartooney animation in Dragon Ball. And it turns out to be from that Animator that really caught my eye in Frieren! And whaaat?! It truly shocks me to know that Yamamuro worked in this episode. I'm really familiar with his style but his corrections seems so different here!

[@ricardomonteiro870]

if u couldnt recognise takahashi before this week, u definitily can now

[@ricardomonteiro870]

wait what the fuck do u mean, that heavily shaded cut of glorio wasnt takahashi, the most idented cheek I've seen in this show and 3 step shading and its not him??? fuck me thinking I nailed that part lol. tell me that was at least corrected by him or something? Im pretty sure I got a certain drawing of goku being a nakaratsu correction with how boxy it was, I'll take that I guess

[@only_goatkuuu]

its great to have a dragon ball anime where even the lowest priority episodes, and which in fact show very little have this consistency, the storyboard of the first part was very creative, kiriyama understood the room of that hotel very well, and the corrections of the various nakatsuru takahashi and sawai are very beautiful to see. On the animation side nothing special, except for the wonderful character acting in the scene of degesu and gomah and takeshi morita in the cut of vegeta. in general I'm having a lot of fun with daima, it's really a breath of fresh air for dragon ball...... BUT my only problem with the series is the slowness, let me explain better. If the episode count is really 20 then this part of the series could have been structured and condensed much better, but I have a hard time believing that there are only 20 episodes. well, only time will tell. lol great vid as always ajay

[@specialnewb9821]

Of course Vegeta gets it a bit rougher than Goku😅 Watching you and ForgottenRelics on this series has been real great to appreciate the animation even when its a bit lacking

[@PiccoloDamayonnaiz]

My fav scene is with Vegeta in the nightclub🔥 it was refreshing to see Dragon Ball with this style

[@LimitedAnmiationinc]

I think that goku's fights are kinda wilder and less conculated than vegeta's and piccolo's fight

[@totamilegend]

the presence of the nyoibo gives them more freedom with the storyboards while Vegeta and Piccolo have to use mostly hand combat

[@rozzingit]

It feels very character-driven. Vegeta is intensely practical and pragmatic compared to Goku; he has the Saiyan thrill and hunger for fighting, but he also spent most of his lifetime being a professional soldier. He learned fighting explicitly to be able to kill people and protect himself from being killed. Goku fights purely for the joy of it. He's not just fighting, he's PLAYING.

[@specialnewb9821]

​@@totamilegend I think it fits both of their more analytical approach to combat compared to Goku. Personally I like it better but it looks awkward with such tiny limbs 😅

[@Skrippnlo5]

Out of everything from Daima, i really wasn't expecting Paikuhan to get canonized

[@STRICKLE]

Well they don’t really need downtime when everything was made like 2 years ago

[@gokunenn4243]

? What are you even talking about? Daima is the web anime. It isn't the anime series that was in the works previously, and the anime industry doesn't work like that anyways-two years of production doesn't mean everything was finished.

[@AnimeAjay]

Production began two years ago, yes, but it was not finished until recently. You still need to manage your resources across its run. Not every episode can be explosive.

[@DankDave211]

i like how they just let random kids in the club ordering drinks. 🤣

[@gokunenn4243]

Why would they not? The Demon Realm is not Earth. Hell, that would happen in places with the same situation as the Third Realm in real life too.

[@MissNorington]

No Omen of Victory joke for Yamamuro jumpscare? I loved the previous one! Also, I have nothing against the man, except the noses having holes leading to different dimensions

[@Anthonycheesman33]

I hope when super returns they have the same animation as this or broly.

[@PieStudios]

5:01 CATHERINE YOOOOOO

[@sonicvergil1]

I agree

[@saiyan_john]

First, love your videos

[@above.average.gaming.natio3026]

So what is the additional social media account Sawai created solely for sharing his Dragon Ball-related artwork?

[@totamilegend]

the return of the turd- no i mean king!

[@Stickytacos666]

Just saying...the likelihood of Kid Vegito or Kid Gogeta is highly likely at this point

[@costadinover]

Lost Odyssey today?

[@AnimeAjay]

What RPG OST do I use next?

[@andr0zzsenpai]

​The Last Story's 👀

[@costadinover]

Xenoblade Chronicles :)

[@packman3979]

Can someone make this clear is Katsuyoshi nakatsuru the main character designer for daima?

[@AnimeAjay]

He is, yup

[@packman3979]

@ wait wasn’t he also the main character designer for dbz buu saga?

[@AnimeAjay]

@@packman3979 yup and GT

[@beaconing7689]

It bother me a little that their head is so big compared to Goku GT

[@kw-wf9uf]

Now that you mention it, where is Tate at? He's custom made for this show. Do we know for a fact that he is or isn't participating on the show?

[@AnimeAjay]

He's on a very shit show called Tosochu and has been for a while now 😮‍💨

[@kw-wf9uf]

@AnimeAjay Fuck that sucks. Hopefully we can make up for it with some more Ryo Onishi or something. They're both perfect fits for the tone and designs here

[@Lagia7]

Tate not being on this show actually has me depressed. I found out about that 2 weeks ago and man that shit is just disappointing, I was waiting for his debut all this time for no reason lol

[@gokunenn4243]

I would argue this was the first truly filler-esque episode and the entire section with Piccolo and Vegeta was pointless story-wise...but it still got cool animstion. It's surprising.

[@shandyistheboss]

Is this normal for today's animes that pretty much every episode has an other style or animator?

[@qualiswilliams7403]

Piccolo is really just Vegeta with a more chilled demeanor. They often feel the same and do the same lol they show up to the event and act standoffish. They're both extremely prideful and like to fight. Piccolo is actually more Saiyan like than Goku if you're using Vegeta as the goal post to Saiyan's

[@gokunenn4243]

Where the hell are you getting than Piccolo is prideful post-merge? There is literally zero showing of that at all. He also doesn't have the crazy excitement from battle Goku and the Saiyans get. Hell in Super he didn't want to fight at all in the Lookout because he cares more about its sacred status. He has also never been prideful about being a Namekian- rightfully so since he is as disconnected from then as Goku is to Planet Vegeta. Literally the only time Piccolo had his pride offended was in the Cell saga, and not only was that before merging with God, that was also because he felt like a failure as a demon.

[@shofan0456]

Also, does anybody know where Naoki Tate went? I haven't heard his name on one piece or really much of anything recently...

[@diegovaldes1408]

He's on Tosochu, another Toei series based on a japanese game show. Haven't watched it (cause it's not on crunchyroll or any streaming service lol) but it doesn't seem very interesting. It does have some cool cuts now and then that you can check on sakugabooru

[@Alllex]

He was a regular on Digimon 2020 and Digimon Ghost Game after that. When Ghost Game ended, he moved over to Tosochu which is where he is now.

[@shofan0456]

@Alllex OOOOOOOOHHHH!! That's right!! He DID do a lot of Digimon work! As for Tosochu, I know nothing about it but I'm just happy he's still working at TOEI.

[@PuuberZ]

Super fun episode, the off model faces never bothered me. Although Majin Kuu kinda bummed me out. What a terrible design. It's basically Cui fused with Frieza.

[@PZMKSD]

I wouldn’t call it vegeta’s “first fight” 😂

[@DanielBakerFoster]

Ajayyyyy

[@flierby]

Where is Naoki Tate ☹️☹️☹️

[@Bloodymecha]

I wish this show were interesting at all because it sure is pretty

[@gonzalomendez4623]

Truly, I have no interest in Daima or its story but I will say that the art style and animation is beautiful. It just sucks it had to be invested into this story, and not a direct follow up after the ending to Z or just a super sequel.

[@gokunenn4243]

What does being a direct sequel or not have to do with the story quality? Super itself was literally a midquel. Super has also still not ended and has arcs still not animated, how do you even make a sequel to that?

[@milicabojic9434]

4:54 Frieren feet

[@Nephalem2002]

I need to ask a serious question. WHERE. THE FLYING FUCK. WAS THIS QUALITY DURING THE AIRING OF DRAGONBALL SUPER?!?!?

[@BOoodaAh]

Daima is the best dragon ball has ever looked except maybe DBS broly.

[@Orangeninja5000]

Ajay really is Tate's strongest warrior. I get the man is fluid but he is NEVER on model

[@saaalut]

No Naoki Tate ??? I thought it was him on Vegeta's fight ...

[@Wahid_on_youtobe]

Please read the Qur'an

[@MaxIronsThird]

I love how good the production on Daima is, allowing animators, directors, storyboard and BG artists enough to time to experiment and not rush any part of production. The story though, is rough, repetitive and sauceless and uninteresting. Also i hate Glorio's face and hair. PS: i don't understand why they kept the Yamamuro hair style shading from Super, even though everyone seems to hate it, sure it moves now, but Shintani's flat design works so much better for DB.

[@e1622zelda]

over anlizing big time

[@gokunenn4243]

If you think this is over analizying you are not into animation at all and I have no idea why you are on this video lmao

[@enma8441]

I didn't know people actually paid much attention to these details

[@InspirationalBacon]

Y’all will find anything to make a video on lmao

[@declan6602]

Animation analysis channel makes a video analysing animation 🤯

[@gokunenn4243]

Why on hell are you on an animation analysis channel if you have no idea how an animation breakdown works?

[@Someone-tuf]

This episode was...kinda ass.

[@diegovaldes1408]

Nuh uh

[@andr0zzsenpai]

storywise, kinda, but it was kinda fun?

[@BboyTzilla]

The line art for vegetas fight scene was ugly as hell compared to all the goku fights so far