The Animators Who've Spent 40 Years on a Single Film

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Atrocity Guide

Atrocity Guide

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@AtrocityGuide
@AtrocityGuide 3 жыл бұрын
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@Nahan_Boker94
@Nahan_Boker94 3 жыл бұрын
The first paragraph remind me of Nord VPN man from Incognito
@forgettable8300
@forgettable8300 3 жыл бұрын
That static design on the merch is badass
@CannabisReviewPDX
@CannabisReviewPDX 3 жыл бұрын
This video shouldn't have taken 4 months, cut em down
@jaycee6556
@jaycee6556 3 жыл бұрын
You’re the best youtuber!
@jaycee6556
@jaycee6556 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilusions4 lol
@TheSilverKetchup
@TheSilverKetchup 3 жыл бұрын
I imagine a director's commentary of the film. "Oh, yes this scene, only 30 seconds long. That's how I spent 1997."
@Nojnoj
@Nojnoj 2 жыл бұрын
more like 1997 - 2000
@perriwinkleiii5361
@perriwinkleiii5361 Жыл бұрын
A director's commentary of this film would be a full autobiography, periods of their lives marked by frames and scenes
@smaakjeks
@smaakjeks 11 ай бұрын
lol
@haterxhaterr
@haterxhaterr 8 ай бұрын
​@@Nojnojmore like the 90s and 2000s
@paulwoodford1984
@paulwoodford1984 26 күн бұрын
By 2024 they must have about 50 minutes done by now. in 2004 they had 25 minutes done.
@hamodyasgail3314
@hamodyasgail3314 3 жыл бұрын
"What are you writing?" "I don't know, I haven't received it yet" Absolutely brilliant-
@AfutureV
@AfutureV 3 жыл бұрын
It has been a while since I’ve had chills reading something. That joke did it.
@MrGFloyd
@MrGFloyd 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what imma tell my teacher for now on
@tettettettettet
@tettettettettet 3 жыл бұрын
That’s just dnd
@cheapchianti6478
@cheapchianti6478 3 жыл бұрын
It was both funny and kind of dark too, so very Russian
@whydoineedahandle793
@whydoineedahandle793 3 жыл бұрын
What does he mean by that ?
@jon-umber
@jon-umber 3 жыл бұрын
Their animation style is simply spellbinding. Like nothing I've ever seen before. Breathtaking, boundary-pushing artwork. Sincerely hope there is eventually a release of The Overcoat, in some sort of fashion.
@Trollificusv2
@Trollificusv2 3 жыл бұрын
There will be, I just hope it's left "as created", not "finished", "reimagined" or "improved". Hell. it could be presented with this video as preface. So that the impact of the work, however much actually gets finished, will be better understood. Because by now, this work is only peripherally related to, or constrained by, the source story "The Overcoat".
@jon-umber
@jon-umber 3 жыл бұрын
@@Trollificusv2 100% agree.
@Skitdora2010
@Skitdora2010 3 жыл бұрын
@@Trollificusv2 Makes you appreciate the 4 or 5 different versions you can find of the movie Bladerunner, or the 3 version of Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Some Dvds release different cuts of things as either separate units for purchase, on the same disk at the start menu, or in the special features. So, hopefully they will see a release of previous cuts of their film and an introduction to their learned new technique that made them go back and change it all over again.
@gre4231
@gre4231 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jon, nice seeing you here.
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean 3 жыл бұрын
We finally got to see Salvador Dali's _Destino,_ so I have hope we'll see this, too. Even if they never finish, someone will take charge and make sure it's released to the public.
@Seishae
@Seishae 3 жыл бұрын
“Francheska is a mystery to me. The more I get to know her, the less I know.” This might sound weird but I get the vibe from that quote that he really, really loves her. The way he wants to work without a script, the way he jokes about not knowing what a film is about until it’s done, I think nothing could ever appeal to him more than a person who he can never quite figure out.
@jessica74252
@jessica74252 2 жыл бұрын
what a nice touch
@liberatedlife9676
@liberatedlife9676 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this comment
@EugeneOneguine
@EugeneOneguine 2 жыл бұрын
I don't trust an artist who tells me they already know what they're gonna do, it means they have a limited source of ideas. You don't have one idea that you want to exploit, you don't have several ideas, either. You have an infinity of ideas. All along the work, new ideas come up, old ideas go down, which may go back up again. It's the work that guides you through which idea you can use. There is no way to know what you're actually gonna make, before it's finished.
@mattsanchez3400
@mattsanchez3400 Жыл бұрын
My favorite comment.
@SpicyTexan64
@SpicyTexan64 Жыл бұрын
We're really fortunate artists don't make useful things like bridges or communication networks
@fioreanon1215
@fioreanon1215 2 жыл бұрын
the way they captured the pure bliss on the man's face as he tucks himself into his new overcoat...the gleam in his eyes, the blush in his cheeks, like a child waiting for Santa...it really brought tears to my eyes. And it makes knowing the end of the story even more painful. But that's art. And that's just beautiful. I wish they wouldn't suffer while making their movie but I can at least thank them for having done so, even if only through a comment they'll likely never see (and in my heart.)
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA Жыл бұрын
I wish Crimean Tatars wouldn't suffer when their homes were taken away and relatives "disappeared" by russian invaders, but the Norstein said he "categorically supports" the occupation of Crimea and invasion of Ukraine so I WISH he would actually suffer instead of being a talentless fool westerners are so fascinated with because "russia mysterious".
@Lona_444
@Lona_444 Жыл бұрын
thank you for this comment it brought me a lot of emotion, the small details really are everything and time is the villain here, it's all so complicated
@360.Tapestry
@360.Tapestry 3 жыл бұрын
these two artists are walking that extremely fine line between genius and madness
@justas423
@justas423 3 жыл бұрын
The more you sacrifice, the more you get. This is that principle taken to it's extreme. Same thing with James Hampton.
@Awesomesufff
@Awesomesufff 3 жыл бұрын
They’re firmly in the madness camp
@dustinirwin1
@dustinirwin1 3 жыл бұрын
doing something you enjoy with someone you love is madness? how are you going to spend 40 years? meaningful things like binging youtube and going to disneyland?
@Duplicitousthoughtformentity
@Duplicitousthoughtformentity 3 жыл бұрын
@@dustinirwin1 You are a fool to think he disrespects them. Men are made in part with madness, and those that embrace that madness may do incredible things.
@dustinirwin1
@dustinirwin1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Duplicitousthoughtformentity ugh stop fetishizing madness. this couple has a pet project they dedicate a big part of their life to. it's rather normal. i do the same. don't you? it's neither genius nor madness. it's well-centered humanity.
@kristinastipetic1279
@kristinastipetic1279 3 жыл бұрын
I remember back when I was super into Soviet animation ~15 years ago. After watching Skazka Skazok and Hedgehog in the Fog, I was so pumped to learn that Norstein and Yarbusova were adapting one of my favorite short stories, The Overcoat, into a feature-length film. "They've already been working on it for twenty years!" I thought. "Surely it will be ready soon!" ... The next time I thought about it was when I saw the title of this video, and knew exactly which film it would be about.
@InsidiousOne
@InsidiousOne 2 жыл бұрын
Have you watched the "Treasure Island"? The original subbed version (can be seen on KZbin), not the export one, which is heavily downgraded. It's not as "artsy", more on a fun side, but the animation is just gorgeous.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA Жыл бұрын
@@InsidiousOne Tresure Island is by Kyivnaukfilm, the same Ukrainian studio did a whole series of Cossacks cartoons. They were really good! If you want to help preserving, lobby it! We were urging Criterion to register some of Ukrainian cinema from the era from Dovzhenko studio, like Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors, but they absolutely refuse to acknowledge us or answer to comments. Odesa movie studio was just hit with Iranian drone attack yesterday. Several museums bombed, one flooded, others robbed by russians. Preservation of Ukrainian cultural legacy is very important!
@different_stuff
@different_stuff Жыл бұрын
@@KasumiRINA it's not only ukrainian
@OffendingTheOffendable
@OffendingTheOffendable 2 ай бұрын
Soviet made garbage
@OffendingTheOffendable
@OffendingTheOffendable 2 ай бұрын
​@@different_stuffvictory for Ukraine 🇺🇦
@Rorschach003
@Rorschach003 3 жыл бұрын
This almost moved me to tears. As an artist, the desire and will to pour yourself into your work really hit home. The never ending battle with perfection vs completion. To you, the work is never finished because there's always more you can do. Letting go is the hardest part.
@SlitheryDeeChannel
@SlitheryDeeChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Writing is easy, just sit at a desk and bleed onto the paper 🤣
@samclements8246
@samclements8246 3 жыл бұрын
It’s so hard to just commit, draw the line and say “done”. And then no one seems to know the weight of the failures, the amount of work put in just to get one thing right. A million to one, and it seems that hardly anyone even wants to notice the one.
@LyubomirIko
@LyubomirIko 3 жыл бұрын
At some point such lengthy work of an artist/s becomes the life of an artist/s. Indistinguishable. It is soul transfer.
@harlowjademermaid1882
@harlowjademermaid1882 3 жыл бұрын
i definitely shed a few watching this, it is soo sad what they have been put through. Let them create their hearts desire, I will never understand censorship. Its soo sad.
@SemperFine
@SemperFine 3 жыл бұрын
Well said
@bozhanaslavkova3291
@bozhanaslavkova3291 2 жыл бұрын
Here, in Bulgaria, as we were in the Eastern block, every person over 35 remembers Hedgehog and the fog as it was shone as one of the greatest examples of russion genius recurringly on the national television . To this day from time to time it's shown on the program "Good night, kids" (:
@yunyunid981
@yunyunid981 2 жыл бұрын
wait, you guys have “goodnight, kids” too?? i’m from russia, i never thought this program existed anywhere else! makes sense given our history together, but still, so cool to find out. i wonder if we have the same characters on the show too!
@bozhanaslavkova3291
@bozhanaslavkova3291 2 жыл бұрын
@@yunyunid981 there are different series and short films, so different characters, but for sure we have a lot of them in common
@Gerno_
@Gerno_ Жыл бұрын
When lithuania was in the USSR it had a goodnight kids program too!
@dar4061
@dar4061 11 ай бұрын
Yeah things tend to get shared when one country keeps invading the others, I'm sure in 10 or 20 years people will be saying the same thing in Ukraine.. "oh isn't that interesting, we share the same TV shows as Russia, what luck"
@WaningGibbous
@WaningGibbous 9 ай бұрын
It is perfection..
@StubenhockerElite
@StubenhockerElite Жыл бұрын
The man is absolutely 100% fulfilled by doing what he does and suffering every second of it. What a mad lad Yuri is.
@Myacckt
@Myacckt Жыл бұрын
And his wife. Francesca is the literal artist who creates all this. Why is a woman always so easily forgotten…
@goatpasta9553
@goatpasta9553 Жыл бұрын
"Find what you love and let it kill you." - Charles Bukowski
@MGrey-qb5xz
@MGrey-qb5xz Жыл бұрын
@@Myacckt the "women" doesn't ask for your pity
@KwadDamyj
@KwadDamyj 9 ай бұрын
One must ACTUALLY imagine Sisyphus happy in this case!
@lt_johnmcclane
@lt_johnmcclane 5 ай бұрын
@@MGrey-qb5xzwhy’d you put women in quotes?
@erniewelz
@erniewelz 3 жыл бұрын
The plight of an artist is so rarely understood by anyone other than themselves. Self sabotage and self criticism to overcome often keep many great pieces from ever coming to light. Others try to change and some offer anything to get these works of art done that completely obscures what the artist is really about. Edit: Also….Amazing video btw. This is the exact reason I’m subscribed to see this in-depth description of something I’ve never even heard of. Thank you
@justcommenting4981
@justcommenting4981 3 жыл бұрын
They're obviously insane.
@luclin92
@luclin92 3 жыл бұрын
@@justcommenting4981 nah its more that they get so focused on details, and once perfection sets in it can easily overturn their lives. and so many artists have ended up in that trap. hell even the video game industry experiences this. one of the most famous ones is duke nukem forever which was plagued with this, because the original creator basically scrapped the game and started all over again multiple times. it all ended when they ran out of money and someone else bought the rights to the ip
@justcommenting4981
@justcommenting4981 3 жыл бұрын
@@luclin92 yea, that's being insane.
@jamm6_514
@jamm6_514 3 жыл бұрын
@@justcommenting4981 Then send me to an asylum because self-sabotage and the search for wellness is consuming my life
@justcommenting4981
@justcommenting4981 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamm6_514 an asylum just keeps you from bothering others not paid to deal with it. Being crazy isn't a crime.
@Cartoonizando
@Cartoonizando 3 жыл бұрын
This was such a fascinating story. My god, this feels like a legend, a myth. Truly inscredible.
@DiegoTan66
@DiegoTan66 3 жыл бұрын
She just described it.
@DiegoTan66
@DiegoTan66 3 жыл бұрын
My bad, read it as "truly indescribible" and thought you were being silly, while it was me who was being silly
@guruguru3139
@guruguru3139 3 жыл бұрын
Carai
@pedrolima625
@pedrolima625 3 жыл бұрын
carai
@MedicMain9
@MedicMain9 3 жыл бұрын
carai
@erin9377
@erin9377 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say that this channel is a gem. A lot of others in this area of KZbin circulate the same stale content, but you always manage to find really fascinating, obscure stories that actually have enough depth to justify a 30-60 minute video.
@fidelio9301
@fidelio9301 3 жыл бұрын
That’s true I’m impressed how she actually manages this.
@gandhitheholeresizer8329
@gandhitheholeresizer8329 3 жыл бұрын
@@fidelio9301 4 months seems like a reasonable amount of time to make this video
@nine-toedsloth7168
@nine-toedsloth7168 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@fidelio9301
@fidelio9301 3 жыл бұрын
@@gandhitheholeresizer8329 For sure but I just meant I agree with the sentiment of how she manages to find topics we haven’t heard much about. It’s cool.
@asemic
@asemic 3 жыл бұрын
Other than this and the Down the Rabbit Hole series, I don't know of anything else of such quality.. But I'm looking if anyone has channel suggestions!
@rgs8970
@rgs8970 3 жыл бұрын
I am so afraid Yuri will destroy the unfinished work before he dies. I'm not sure why that is my specific fear, but it is
@Myacckt
@Myacckt Жыл бұрын
Because you can sense there’s mental illness going on here. Folie a deux often ends in murder suicide. In their case the self destruction of their work.
@latorrefazionemusic
@latorrefazionemusic Жыл бұрын
At some point he says that when he makes a discovery or finds something in the process of making the film, he also goes backwards modifing the parts that he has already done to adapt them to the new way found. So somehow he is destroying the film already while making it.
@kocholawis1851
@kocholawis1851 Жыл бұрын
master and margarita
@Beuwen_The_Dragon
@Beuwen_The_Dragon Жыл бұрын
@@latorrefazionemusicanimation of Theseus
@blowitoutyourcunt7675
@blowitoutyourcunt7675 Жыл бұрын
@@Beuwen_The_Dragon my favorite paradox! It's a great comment on this movie!
@jskd2953
@jskd2953 2 жыл бұрын
Their animation is truly breathtaking in it's beauty, haunting dreaminess and meticulous obsession. Hopefully The Overcoat will get finished within their lifetime.
@JorgetePanete
@JorgetePanete Жыл бұрын
its*
@FritzMonorail
@FritzMonorail Жыл бұрын
@@JorgetePanete Wow, you've contributed so much.
@graceygal2664
@graceygal2664 Жыл бұрын
To be honest the footage made of the overcoat sucks. I get it's taken years and years but it's all so bloody dark you can't see a thing. A lack of colour, lack of a script and lack of any decent lighting make it look shit
@WarlockofThorns
@WarlockofThorns 11 ай бұрын
​@@graceygal2664You can have an opinion.
@afreen5462
@afreen5462 10 ай бұрын
@@graceygal2664 you certainly have one of the opinions of all time
@EvalonGames
@EvalonGames 3 жыл бұрын
And I thought Thief and the Cobbler had a troubled production. Never heard of this film before or most of the topics you cover. That's the main reason I look forward to your videos!
@tooruoikawa8985
@tooruoikawa8985 3 жыл бұрын
Before watching I 1000% thought this would be about that!
@MrGFloyd
@MrGFloyd 3 жыл бұрын
lol better hope i don’t see you out
@MrGFloyd
@MrGFloyd 3 жыл бұрын
Or you are done
@MrGFloyd
@MrGFloyd 3 жыл бұрын
You’re the one who made fun of my little sister for having autism under that NELK video.
@ROTTERDXM
@ROTTERDXM 3 жыл бұрын
@@tooruoikawa8985 same!
@shochre6497
@shochre6497 3 жыл бұрын
In a way, they're not making The Overcoat, they're living it
@ringkunmori
@ringkunmori 3 жыл бұрын
You telling me their ghost will haunt a bunch of animators with over due projects once they die? Dope
@classicpinball9873
@classicpinball9873 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a movie similar to this idea called Synecdoche New York, it’s an interesting watch
@klamerco
@klamerco 3 жыл бұрын
They are not. The overcoat's story is completely different
@classicpinball9873
@classicpinball9873 3 жыл бұрын
@@klamerco not the movies themselves, I’m saying this commenters idea of “living your project” is how synecdoche ny plays out
@Graph06
@Graph06 3 жыл бұрын
I guess you could say the true overcoat was the friends we made along the way
@saberserpent1134
@saberserpent1134 3 жыл бұрын
"The only things Yuri is afraid of, is the things that might really help him." A lot of creative people are this way, and I've let myself succumb to this at certain points in my life. Despair becomes a lifestyle. Self-Sabotage is comfortable and familiar; success is strange and terrifying. There's also an aspect of "control" at play. If I were to guess, I imagine Yuri believes that any outside help he accepts compromises the integrity of his work. The work that is really the only thing in his life he probably has ever had total control over.
@vicentgalvan70
@vicentgalvan70 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck, this hits home hard.
@IsoYear
@IsoYear 3 жыл бұрын
this description of me is both comforting and haunting as i imagine what could have been while ignoring what is. a great life that hates himself for not having a great life
@inventedcool1076
@inventedcool1076 3 жыл бұрын
Nailed it.
@saberserpent1134
@saberserpent1134 3 жыл бұрын
@@IsoYear I call it the "Disney Effect". You give a child a simple, repeating pattern to "success", or "happily ever after". The child grows, and realizes the actual complexities of life and human relationships, and it starts this sort of dissonance between reality and expectation that we can never seem to reconcile.
@luichinplaystation610
@luichinplaystation610 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better out of my mind
@oregonmandragorist5697
@oregonmandragorist5697 Жыл бұрын
The quality of production for these videos is insane. The research required, the nuance of your coverage...it's astonishing and wonderful to experience.
@unclvinny
@unclvinny 3 жыл бұрын
Norstein short films mentioned: Heron and the Crane Hedgehog in the Fog Tale of Tales Others Hungarian: the Tragedy of Man, dir. Marcell Jankovics English: The thief and the cobbler -- dir Richard Williams The King and the Mockingbird - dir Paul Grimault Hoffmaniada - dir. Stanislav Sokolov (Let me know if I missed any! I want to see them all.)
@Tetradepodmelontea
@Tetradepodmelontea 9 ай бұрын
I think, Shojo Tsubaki has similar story of one-man-made animation, except voice actors.
@stopmotionadventures4812
@stopmotionadventures4812 4 ай бұрын
THEY WORKED ON THEIR AND THE COBBLER??? masks sense considering that the 3 people who worked on it are the best sunspots to date
@CollegeBallYouknow
@CollegeBallYouknow 3 жыл бұрын
My literature class studied _The Overcoat_ back in my school days and finding out that there’s a unique animated film about it in the works makes me excited for something that probably won’t ever release.
@frankmarano1118
@frankmarano1118 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they're in their 80s & probably not even halfway done. Unfortunately the chances are increasingly slim that it'll ever release. Especially because theyre old which will make the more eccentric issues worse
@adraedin
@adraedin 3 жыл бұрын
@@frankmarano1118 One can hope the half produced film is auctioned off to some collector in the future who shows it to the world. I imagine, if anyone decides to pick up where this couple left off, it would likely be a slap in the face to the couple and their work to do the remaining part(s) at a pace any faster than they did. That being said, l wouldn't put it past future humans to use the Blender of the time and finish it themselves over the course of a Red Bull just as a quick fan-fiction side project.
@akbarshahzad5780
@akbarshahzad5780 3 жыл бұрын
I would be shocked if Criterion or Kino or some other art film restoration and distribution company didn't release a cut of the film, no matter how unfinished, after these two die. Some of the greatest artworks in history were never truly "finished". _The Trial_ by Franz Kafka. Mozart's _Requiem._ The poems of Hoelderlin and Mallarme's _Tomb for Anatole._ In animation, _The Thief and the Cobbler_ and _The King and the Mockingbird_ are two that have developed devoted followings in the years since their noncompletion. We can only hope _The Overcoat_ will join this canon of fragments.
@kingdingaling2469
@kingdingaling2469 3 жыл бұрын
I SO MUCH want to see “ The OverCoat “ !! They should release what they have , like a 1st half with “ To Be Continued / More To Come “ and then still release thee full version if we get that opportunity ever @ least they can get rich from some great art and not have any funding issues if they even just drop 1st half. Anyone who knows anything about this work of art , as well as their plight , we will all wary to see it. I think Most of Us would as well like to own even a portion of this Masterpiece still in progress. They could @ least get rid of any financial stress and be able to continue as they wish If they produce & publish just a portion of what they have. I mean 40 Years …. Almost every Human on earth will be intrigued , especially if it’s advertised right. They’ll make a lot of $ while still stay true to their craft & their pure artistic selves.
@kingdingaling2469
@kingdingaling2469 3 жыл бұрын
@@adraedin 💯 All that ☝️
@justas423
@justas423 3 жыл бұрын
The quality of the animation is mildly terrifying. Especially after hearing all the suffering and struggle that went into it.
@skeletontoes7692
@skeletontoes7692 3 жыл бұрын
All I see is beauty. Funny how subjective art is.
@pronoobie5780
@pronoobie5780 3 жыл бұрын
Terrifyingly beautiful? Beautifully terrifying?
@kingdingaling2469
@kingdingaling2469 3 жыл бұрын
@@pronoobie5780 Yes. ☝️
@abstract0407
@abstract0407 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like some one out there will still edit thier work and make it better. Maybe improve the films fluidity or resolution. What ever it is that they are trying to achieve will be monumental
@albertopeixoto
@albertopeixoto 3 жыл бұрын
@@abstract0407 Sometimes more fluidity doesn’t make the film better, just different. Animation is tricky, what some consider better could be detracting from the creators vision. So any enhancements have to be carefully thought out if the creators are no longer with us.
@forgettable8300
@forgettable8300 3 жыл бұрын
The art is absolutely hauntingly beautiful
@redlaserfox3988
@redlaserfox3988 3 жыл бұрын
Fully full on captivating
@MisghellisDeli
@MisghellisDeli 3 жыл бұрын
The Overcoat is my favorite short story I read for my literature classes in school. I’ve reread it and sometimes just think of parts of the story when I’m reminded of it. Knowing this much artistic passion exists towards the story makes me pray a large portion of the film can be completed so that I can sit on my couch on a cold February Saturday morning all depressed yet inspired and in awe of the human condition
@purgatoryusa
@purgatoryusa Жыл бұрын
This though
@lipingguo6
@lipingguo6 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@oneinathousand2156
@oneinathousand2156 3 жыл бұрын
You mentioned The King and the Mockingbird, and I love how the main guy behind that was like “Fuck it, we’re finishing it no matter what” so the end product has a clear distinction between the animation that was done in the late 40’s versus the animation that was done in the late 70’s but at least they got it done. I haven’t seen it yet because it’s pretty hard to find but I do know that the music for the finished movie fuckin SLAPS
@koobeeack
@koobeeack 3 жыл бұрын
I know this doesn’t help much now, but the director’s cut was streaming on Mubi last Christmas. If I were you, I’d keep an eye on that and possibly the Criterion Channel, as I think they overlap in programming a bit.
@opheliatheragdoll
@opheliatheragdoll 3 жыл бұрын
The Overcoat was one of those stories I read in Literature class that stuck with me. I was really shocked that was the story they're adapting, it makes it especially poetic.
@spiderbits2923
@spiderbits2923 3 жыл бұрын
This breaks my heart as a fellow artist, I especially struggle with perfectionism for details people will never notice and end results that barely differ. I'm finally getting past that, but it's been nearly a decade of this mindset that (at least for myself) staggered my growth more than refined it. Maybe it brings them purpose and identity, but its a heavy burden to bear. edit: I finally updated my avatar to my own art. Previous icon was "The Stalk" from the comic book "Saga".
@Ten_Thousand_Locusts
@Ten_Thousand_Locusts 3 жыл бұрын
Did you draw your pfp? If yes, where can I find more. And if no, who did?
@iainwalker8701
@iainwalker8701 3 жыл бұрын
My uncle has been writing a history book for nearly 30 years. Part of me thinks he doesn't want to stop as be wont know what to do with himself. Its became the only life he knows. I get the feeling the two discussed are in a similar mindset.
@360.Tapestry
@360.Tapestry 3 жыл бұрын
this is just a hot take, but you could say they've become incredibly self-indulgent. deadlines help focus action. without any real time constraints, they've fallen victim to parkinson's law, where the work expands to fill the time allotted. this could be their escape from all the trauma they likely experienced growing up in soviet russia
@TheDuckGamer47
@TheDuckGamer47 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ten_Thousand_Locusts It's character from the comic book series 'Saga'. The comic has been ongoing since 2012, there are 54 issues as of now, about 9 volumes and more coming in January 2022. It's a bit of a passion project from the creator, with only 2 people working on it. I'd recommend the series to anyone looking into reading comic books
@existentialcrisis8321
@existentialcrisis8321 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in this boat right now, and I'm trying to active fight it.
@emmagrove6491
@emmagrove6491 Жыл бұрын
As a traditional animator who refuses to give up her paper and pencils to work on a computer, I found this fascinating. I know little of their work, but I'm sure going to delve deeper into it now.
@Captain_MonsterFart
@Captain_MonsterFart Жыл бұрын
I got into the biz right when Flash took over. I learned to animate on paper and have always missed that tactile feeling and superior look it achieves.
@emmagrove6491
@emmagrove6491 Жыл бұрын
@@Captain_MonsterFart I hear ya. It's just not the same. I was able to work using paper and pencils for three years, then everything switched to Flash. I moved to L.A. and tried for work but everything was switching to 3D computer animation. I moved back East and worked on a show in Flash for two months then quit because I hated it so much. I haven't worked in animation since. Studios like Aardman and LAIKA have tried switching to 3D computer animation, then moved back to real materials like clay and plasicine because it's just not the same result any other way.
@LasVegasDashie
@LasVegasDashie 11 ай бұрын
@@emmagrove6491 Nowadays lego stop motion animators on youtube are switching to animating legos in 3D which makes no sense. Like, legos exist in real life, use them!
@MrKotBonifacy
@MrKotBonifacy 9 ай бұрын
_"As a traditional animator who refuses to give up her paper and pencils ..., I found this fascinating"_ - meet Julian Antoniszczak (aka Julian Antonisz), who made his films "non-camera", by drawing individual stills by hand directly on a film. His best known piece is "Jak działa jamniczek" (How a Little Dachshund works"), made in 1971 kinda nonsensical (just like all his works) animated movie, or even just surreal - and narrated (for even more grotesque effect) by some old country lady, a simple(ton) woman who's read the narrative from a written script without understanding much of it - and at any rate many of those words/ terms are child-prattle like, "invented" and quite nonsensical yet amusing. So, without further ado, here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGKZeH9pg5mDmq8 Should you be interested I may attempt, or "try my best" to translate the "story" but getting it accurately translated is going to be a "mission nigh impossible"... ;-)
@juannaym8488
@juannaym8488 3 жыл бұрын
I wish these two the best. Their art is incredible and their devotion is admirable
@skelenton92
@skelenton92 3 жыл бұрын
"The Hedgehog in the Fog" is a big cultural thing to this day, in the ex-USSR. Where I live we have a franchise of bars called that.
@i_am_kofit
@i_am_kofit 3 жыл бұрын
The hedgefog in the hog
@katekursive1370
@katekursive1370 3 жыл бұрын
Can confirm from Ukraine, one of the classics still
@netscayped
@netscayped 3 жыл бұрын
oh damn i thought it was only in latvia, thats awesome
@netscayped
@netscayped 3 жыл бұрын
does everyone also go there to smoke weed in yalls countries
@frankmarano1118
@frankmarano1118 3 жыл бұрын
@@katekursive1370 that's very interesting to know, thank you for chiming in anyone from Russia or Ukraine
@SurfTheSkyline
@SurfTheSkyline 3 жыл бұрын
I hope that an untarnished version of whatever the final state of the film ends up being sees a release, I remember being transfixed by the theif and the cobbler simply by nature of the complex and mesmirizing detail and the surreal nature of the characters and movements but the aspects that were clearly just inserted by those without the vision detracted greatly from it. the footage I see of the overcoat is profoundly moving in a manner that I don't think I have felt before and I would hate to see it spoiled by any similar meddling.
@RisingRevengeance
@RisingRevengeance 3 жыл бұрын
I imagine we'll only get to see what's done when one or both of them die as morbid as that sounds
@schnauzer360
@schnauzer360 3 жыл бұрын
@@RisingRevengeance as sad as it sounds, you might be right. But hopefully they're able to finish it before that.
@Sleepy_Cabbage
@Sleepy_Cabbage 3 жыл бұрын
@@schnauzer360 they aren't getting any younger.
@calicojakk9974
@calicojakk9974 3 жыл бұрын
If they don't end up finishing the film it would probably be better that it remain unseen.
@369Sigma
@369Sigma 3 жыл бұрын
@@calicojakk9974 my morbid curiosity and wanton desire to appreciate in it's state the masterpiece of this duo says otherwise.
@Huggbees
@Huggbees 3 жыл бұрын
Your presentation style is second to none.
@andrewmcreynolds3692
@andrewmcreynolds3692 3 жыл бұрын
An official boy in the wild
@doublejay554
@doublejay554 3 жыл бұрын
Atrocity Guide on the official podcast when
@badascan8910
@badascan8910 3 жыл бұрын
Your mother
@nickdanger12345
@nickdanger12345 3 жыл бұрын
If this comment were a mine craft block, it'd be planks. I'm stiff as a board thinking that you'd get Atrocity Guide on the podcast.
@jackmeyers7805
@jackmeyers7805 3 жыл бұрын
By-gawd JR its one uh them bois!
@cecemepls0
@cecemepls0 Жыл бұрын
Thanks SO much for bringing these animators to our attention! I had never heard of them or their work before, but god….I am ASTOUNDED by their talent.
@joycegeertsma7115
@joycegeertsma7115 2 жыл бұрын
I hope this labour of love get's finished; I admire the intense dedication of it's creators. Francheska's art is stunningly beautiful, and I think I understand Yuri's pride and stubbornness.
@JorgetePanete
@JorgetePanete Жыл бұрын
gets* its*
@yellowteethvillage8671
@yellowteethvillage8671 3 жыл бұрын
animation is the ultimate beauty of the art world, and its sad to see their talent stomped out by censorship and self sabotage
@boznsjbruhstudios6383
@boznsjbruhstudios6383 3 жыл бұрын
First
@sirlimen333
@sirlimen333 3 жыл бұрын
Is it really self sabotage when you are aware of your intentions? They do this out of their passion despite everything, not for others.
@MrGFloyd
@MrGFloyd 3 жыл бұрын
Right. I hate finals trump but still voted for him because of how the dems are against free speech and censorship.
@qwellen7521
@qwellen7521 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirlimen333 numerous studios/creatives offered to fund production - and they said no. Talk about punching a gift horse in the mouth. Also If a piece of art is destroying your relationships; it’s probably worth reconsidering how you make it.
@moldelder9522
@moldelder9522 3 жыл бұрын
You think republicans want to protect your free speech? Uhhhh interesting opinion
@darkjapan
@darkjapan 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the The Fairy Feller's Master-Stroke a painting by Richard Dadd, who worked on it for 9 years whilst he was held at the Lunatic Asylum of Bethlem Royal Hospital. He had murdered his father. He only stopped working on the painting after he was transferred to another mental institution where he later died. The painting references old English folklore and Shakespeare, and has a semi 3D effect due to the amount of paint that Dadd applied to canvas over the years.
@Trollificusv2
@Trollificusv2 3 жыл бұрын
"The Overcoat" does seem to have commonalities with such one-of-a-kind things, or Henry Dargers 15,000 page opus. Their uniqueness falls outside art theory. Indeed, it falls outside the judgement of "normal" artists and critics altogether. And I LOVE that sort of stuff!!
@Matthy63
@Matthy63 3 жыл бұрын
Ironic surnames be like
@slipknot95maggot
@slipknot95maggot 3 жыл бұрын
...................................Yea, no, I'll bite ..... Richard Dadd killed his dad..................? Okay, life
@animula6908
@animula6908 3 жыл бұрын
He killed his father, but not murdered him. Because he was too crazy to be competent mentally. Murder implies malicious intent by a competent mind.
@darkjapan
@darkjapan 3 жыл бұрын
@@animula6908 Alright. I'll give you that. I suppose it was all the same to his father though
@GasStationMan
@GasStationMan 3 жыл бұрын
Man after watching this, the visual style of Darkwood makes so much sense now. The game’s visual directors probably watched these cartoons when they were children and it was burn into their memories.
@xya6877
@xya6877 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing immediately. The very unique art style of Darkwood makes a lot more sense when you see the Soviet animation style of the 20th century.
@GoneGrimdark
@GoneGrimdark 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos on unique and misunderstood artists! I want to suggest a video about Vivian Maier. She was a photographer who wasn’t discovered until after her death because she never showed the photos to anyone and was a recluse. It’s a fascinating story!
@rashodmasters4299
@rashodmasters4299 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed a trend in a couple of the topics you covered. A lot of the time it seems like the main force delaying production is pure perfectionism. That's kinda terrifying.
@damascus21
@damascus21 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, maybe it shouldn't be about whether *we* ever get to see it. Maybe it's just fulfilling on a deep level for a husband and wife to spend their lives doing something they love doing together
@GagsAnimation
@GagsAnimation 2 жыл бұрын
That’s beautiful
@cloudbloom
@cloudbloom 3 жыл бұрын
In a way, things like this remind me of the lengthy and arduous process that Kentaro Miura had undergone in creating the manga Berserk from 1989 until his untimely death this past June. The meticulous detail he invested in the artwork of every page is staggering, and even after over 30 years it still wasn't complete. Amazing accomplishments by both him and these artists, mad respect to them all🙏
@chimedemon
@chimedemon 2 жыл бұрын
I actually recently began wondering if this animation style is possibly the thing that could make a great adaptation of berserk happen. I think it would allow there to be more of a focus on making a handful of frames, and meticulously rendering them out before animating them all as a whole… honestly I think it would give Berserk the dark fairytale vibe it’s always deserved, and the fact that the last adaptation there EVER was of it before Miura died was the 2016-2017 adaptation…. Fucks with me… I really think this is possible
@standabout
@standabout 2 жыл бұрын
Miura was also the first person to come to mind
@souljastation5463
@souljastation5463 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about Miura but mangaka usually have assistants, he himself started his career as assistant of Tetsuo Hara, the creator of Kenshiro.
@ayejay8847
@ayejay8847 2 жыл бұрын
@@souljastation5463 He has an assistant but the artwork is 100% Miura only. I think he stated in an interview that he only lets his assistants fix mistakes and inconsistencies but that’s it.
@souljastation5463
@souljastation5463 2 жыл бұрын
@@ayejay8847 mangaka usually have multiple assistants, if he only had one I get why it took so long to publish a new volume.
@qwellen7521
@qwellen7521 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I admire there sheer dedication and talent; a general rule is that your creation should not consume you. That never ends well.
@seacrystal6189
@seacrystal6189 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Art is incredibly important, but so is enjoying life
@ArekusaSan
@ArekusaSan 3 жыл бұрын
I’m figuring that’s why it’s being covered on a channel with the name Atrocity Guide. As an artist myself, I sympathize with wanting to capture as much of your vision as possible, but it can become dangerous if you don’t exercise boundaries with your work.
@johngddr5288
@johngddr5288 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArekusaSan I don't think I would even want to spend so much on a production, even if its my own. Id get bored and I would just want to be able to make as much shit as I can and improve gradually. Not devote my whole life for chasing perfection and getting only one piece done in my fucking lifetime.
@pinetreeYT
@pinetreeYT 3 жыл бұрын
This film isn't for you and I to consume, it's a film for them to enjoy working on. Doing something together with your soul mate is one of the best things one can do with their time. Sometimes stressful, sometimes fun, as with any meaningful relationship.
@abecharles7652
@abecharles7652 3 жыл бұрын
@@pinetreeYT I think you are missing the point here
@SwedePotato314
@SwedePotato314 3 жыл бұрын
Hedgehog in the Fog is an absolutely gorgeous, stunning and unique work of art. It's so atmospheric. Knowing so much more of the story behind its creators is giving me life. What a way to showcase genius and art and how it can overtake your life, and how art is so much more than just a job or a project.
@danielmeirelles2301
@danielmeirelles2301 3 жыл бұрын
i will like to congratulate the channel, and to all the pepleo who worked in this episode. marvelous. ty
@Leiru-desu
@Leiru-desu 3 жыл бұрын
"There Once Lived a Girl Who Seduced Her Sister's Husband and He Hanged Himself"...wow, and I thought isekai titles were crazy.
@Problematist
@Problematist 3 жыл бұрын
As an Isekai it would probably be titled "I Cheated With My Sister's Husband, So What? Let's aim to be the biggest!"
@Leiru-desu
@Leiru-desu 3 жыл бұрын
@@Problematist or from the dude's perspective... "I Hanged Myself After Getting Seduced by my Wife's Sister and Now I'm the Demon Lord's Reincarnation in Another World!?"
@MrGFloyd
@MrGFloyd 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what happened to my mom. RIP aunt Linda
@Cyclone6987
@Cyclone6987 3 жыл бұрын
oh, and dont forget her "There once lived a mother who loved her children, untill they moved back in"
@atomicdancer
@atomicdancer 3 жыл бұрын
"There Once Lived a Girl Who **spoiler alert** Seduced Her Sister's Husband and He Hanged Himself"
@thelastchannelonyoutube
@thelastchannelonyoutube 3 жыл бұрын
I find the fact that Yuri and his wife are continuing to work on the movie even though they have essentially given up on the idea of finishing it to be very fascinating. Do they feel an obligation to finish it? Do they find value in dedicating all their energy on a project that will never be truly completed? It all just sounds so antithetical to why most people make art and I would love to hear their reasoning and perspective.
@Trollificusv2
@Trollificusv2 3 жыл бұрын
Taking a guess, I think they'd say that the "doing of it" is the art, the final product is just a result. Like, the act of painting is the "art", not the finished piece. The playing of the music is the "art", not the recording of it. Needless to say, this cannot be a popular art school view, because it renders artistic hierarchies irrelevant.
@remedy00
@remedy00 3 жыл бұрын
I think making art for oneself's sake is not really antithetical to art, since theres plenty of people who draw/paint/doodle/play music for themselves and arent really interested in putting it out there, but I think it defintely seems antithetical to filmmaking
@Sergio-nb4hj
@Sergio-nb4hj 3 жыл бұрын
@@Trollificusv2 That's cool. I wish I could adopt that mentality, but it's too foreign. I'm a self-taught independent artist, but I only care for the final product. Everything else feels like a barrier between my idea and it's realization When I leave something I was passionate about creating unfinished, it feels like I've achieved nothing, so of course I am dissatisfied with a lot of the work I've done and that sucks
@thelastchannelonyoutube
@thelastchannelonyoutube 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sergio-nb4hj , There's a saying that I hope will help with your situation (it did for me). It goes: "art is never finished, only abandoned".
@vicentgalvan70
@vicentgalvan70 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like somwhere along the way they just lost track of what they want and just gave up to habit and old age.
@D.S.9BOG6
@D.S.9BOG6 3 жыл бұрын
He is very known in Russia, generations grew on his cartoons.
@rainierzx9677
@rainierzx9677 3 жыл бұрын
That's sad
@Tom_Agnetti
@Tom_Agnetti Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure how it’s possible, but I went to school for animation in the nineties and these artists were never referenced. Just amazing.
@zumazuma568
@zumazuma568 Жыл бұрын
the curriculum hadn't caught up with the end of the cold war yet, probably
@LickMyMusketBallsYankee
@LickMyMusketBallsYankee 9 ай бұрын
Because why would you reference garbage tequnique that was forced to grow because of the cesspool it was crafted in? That's like praising the flowers in Cherynobyl for developing radiation resistance because they were forced to grow in an exclusion zone
@emv8869
@emv8869 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Their animation is so beautiful. Thank you for creating this video and exposing the world to their work
@lsdmarch8889
@lsdmarch8889 3 жыл бұрын
Неожиданно увидеть освещение такой родной темы на этом канале, еще и с такой поразительной глубиной и проработкой. Такое бы по нашим каналам крутить!
@lsdmarch8889
@lsdmarch8889 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon Knight idk, I saw a couple of videos today and subscribed, seemed an ok channel to me
@ringkunmori
@ringkunmori 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon Knight what's wrong with Tom Scott?
@HGAMES69
@HGAMES69 3 жыл бұрын
@Brandon Knight nigga what
@senlevchenkova3136
@senlevchenkova3136 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, right, that's surprising. In case the author will read this branch of comments - i can help with russian words and surnames emphasises and pronunciation in future - if needed, of course. Many content creators struggle with foreign names :) best wishes to Atrocity Guide, though.
@MrGFloyd
@MrGFloyd 3 жыл бұрын
Stop speaking gibberish
@Hyreia
@Hyreia 3 жыл бұрын
My gawd. That animation! It's so detailed and fluid my brain insists it's done with computers and just imitating stop-motion because I can't comprehend stop-motion being that complex looking but it is.
@SpicyTexan64
@SpicyTexan64 Жыл бұрын
Coraline is way better
@free.sol1
@free.sol1 3 жыл бұрын
People waiting for this to be finished are like the Russian equivalent of Berserk fans
@A_YouTube_Commenter
@A_YouTube_Commenter 3 жыл бұрын
Or Half Life 3.
@seacrystal6189
@seacrystal6189 3 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Kentaro Miura
@LondonLock
@LondonLock 3 жыл бұрын
@@A_KZbin_Commenter i mean hl3 will probably happen
@skut9
@skut9 3 жыл бұрын
Sleep well Miura
@lilith5052
@lilith5052 3 жыл бұрын
me waiting for both of them …
@DanielSanchez-ul7ve
@DanielSanchez-ul7ve 3 жыл бұрын
I'm coming back from a therapy session, and I can recognize myself in Yuri. Perfectionism are caused by trying to prove your sufficiency, but you can always hide it like" passion or love to the artwork" but most of the times is self sabotage. Thanks God I contained myself for being a stop motion animator, I KNOWI would have end up working on a film for 50+ years completely alone , because no one would stand me.
@BigChungusWhale
@BigChungusWhale 2 жыл бұрын
Bro… you’re literally 12
@DanielSanchez-ul7ve
@DanielSanchez-ul7ve 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh… I’m 26
@paulwoodford1984
@paulwoodford1984 Жыл бұрын
@@DanielSanchez-ul7ve you’re literally 27 lol.
@LasVegasDashie
@LasVegasDashie 11 ай бұрын
@@paulwoodford1984 Bruh... he's 27 and 4 months
@somtoakah1866
@somtoakah1866 9 ай бұрын
Hello bro, how were you able to overcome this issue, I’m 25 and i have this problem
@Igorcastrochucre
@Igorcastrochucre Жыл бұрын
There are two animated movies that came before Disney's Snow White, The Apostol and The Adventures of Prince Achmed, they were not draw, but done in this style that mimics stop motion. The more I look at The Overcoat, the more I imagine this alternate history where this style never went out of fashion and animators everywhere were constructing movies so detailed every frame is a painting, a diagram, and a set at the same time.
@groofay
@groofay 3 жыл бұрын
In some ways, these two remind me of the Hungarian composer György Kurtág and his wife/collaborator Márta. György is notorious for his intense perfectionism and concentration of material; most of his pieces don't run past 10 minutes in length, some are seconds long. His magnum opus and only opera, an adaptation of Samuel Beckett's Endgame, was premiered in 2018, some sixty years after his first seeing the play, several years after its commission, and when Kurtág was in his 90's--and Márta, who had been integral to his composition process for his entire career, died just under a year later. I hope that Yuri and Francheska have the time to see their magnum opus through. It looks shockingly, hauntingly beautiful.
@heiroot
@heiroot 3 жыл бұрын
Ive never seen anything like it
@Apollophelia
@Apollophelia 3 жыл бұрын
I do believe that this film will end up like Keith Haring's unfinished painting, where the incompleteness of the work is part of the experience
@shadymcnasty5920
@shadymcnasty5920 3 жыл бұрын
Keith hearings unfinished work is finished though. In the sense that is intended imagine and symbology he wanted to capture. This... this is something else
@fractalife
@fractalife 3 жыл бұрын
Kentaro Miura
@forgettable8300
@forgettable8300 3 жыл бұрын
Im going to go watch every single movie they made after this like how could you not its just so beautiful in a almost surreal way kinda like a fog or fever dream
@marwanamroo6819
@marwanamroo6819 3 жыл бұрын
Your researching skills on this video (in my opinion) is almost as brilliant as their animation, and the engaging story telling just tops it all off. Not to mention the aesthetically pleasing linguistics (for me as non native speaker, I appreciate that). Really running out of things to say here, we'll wait for next video after you wake up again from your creative hibernation, but I can't complain because I do believe that "good things take time".
@spoopysloth
@spoopysloth 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for putting this together. The Norsteins have been one of my most favorite animators to admire and learn more about. There aren't many overviews on these two in English, so I greatly appreciate you creating this.
@riotwire
@riotwire 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a pretty big animation fan and I've heard so many stories about the same couple hundred animators. I was expecting this to do a documentary on Richard Williams and the Theif and the Cobbler. I've never heard of these two, thank you for sharing this!
@tangerinesfolga3243
@tangerinesfolga3243 3 жыл бұрын
Soviet animation (and early russian) is a gold mine - you should look into it. There’s a lot of great masters: Norshtein, Khitruk, Tatarsky, Atamanov, Ivanov-Vano, Kovolev, Aldashin, Cherkassky and many more. Their animation is passionate, deep, well structured and sometimes with great sense of humor.
@NesosRomanus
@NesosRomanus 3 жыл бұрын
Wake up babe, new Atrocity Guide just dropped. (I mean this unironically: new videos from you are always the highlight of my day!)
@ttrestle
@ttrestle 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@Sorrelhas
@Sorrelhas 3 жыл бұрын
Cue footage of SecundusRomanus waking up his wife at 4 in the morning to watch a new Atrocity Guide video
@eiffe
@eiffe 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure the AI will appreciate your loyalty
@TriceCeilborn
@TriceCeilborn 3 жыл бұрын
Their movies look absolutely gorgeous, I hope they're able to finish their life's work if only so that more people will be able to appreciate what they've been able to achieve despite the obstacles they've faced throughout their careers..
@mantha6912
@mantha6912 Жыл бұрын
I dearly hope Yuri and Francheska finish the film one day. I wish them the best of luck. I have never been so inspired by artists and their work in the way that I am now after having watched this video. The Overcoat is not even finished, and it is already a monument of not just film, but all of artistry.
@michaelh4227
@michaelh4227 Жыл бұрын
Been following the Overcoat's development since 2008 when I saw some of Norstein's work. Hopefully it will be finished someday.
@fernandomaron87
@fernandomaron87 Жыл бұрын
I've been following it since around 2002/2003 lol, i know it won't be finished, i hope that at least when he dies they release everything he had done, probably 1/3 to half movie.
@101gabed
@101gabed 3 жыл бұрын
You never miss. You always manage to find stories nobody has covered yet, and it’s so evident you’re passionate about the stories you tell. It never feels like you’re covering topics for views, you’re telling these stories because you want them told. Hats off to you, Atrocity. Each time you upload it’s a treat.
@eiffe
@eiffe 3 жыл бұрын
You realize you are talking to a computer?
@vampire_juicebox
@vampire_juicebox 3 жыл бұрын
Read the title and thought this was going to be about Mad God. Both stories of stop motion passion projects in the works for decades. Hopefully I'll be able to see both films one day
@Otra_Chica_de_Internet
@Otra_Chica_de_Internet 3 жыл бұрын
Mad Dog already came out tho
@vampire_juicebox
@vampire_juicebox 3 жыл бұрын
@@Otra_Chica_de_Internet only at a few film festivals
@justas423
@justas423 3 жыл бұрын
@@vampire_juicebox it still came out.
@vampire_juicebox
@vampire_juicebox 3 жыл бұрын
@@justas423 I didn't say it didn't come out
@budusbusham3324
@budusbusham3324 3 жыл бұрын
Have seen mad god, you can definitely tells there’s parts they winged/changed the idea for the sake of practicality but there’s basically nothing else like it in cinema. It’s properly grotesque. Fetid, even.
@ib3224
@ib3224 3 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely amazing, thank you Atrocity Guide. My family immigrated here as refugees from the USSR and I recognize sooo many of these animated films. To be able to hear about this entire story and history is both heart warming and shocking. I'm having my mother watch this too.
@charlesperez9976
@charlesperez9976 3 жыл бұрын
There are many innovators in animation,and there are many superstars of animation. But Yuri and Francesca are HEROES of the art form. Please remember this.
@kylenewberry9792
@kylenewberry9792 9 ай бұрын
I disagree that they are “heroes”. That is a bit much. If they actually produced something it would be different.
@AlpineShenanigans
@AlpineShenanigans 3 жыл бұрын
That was really good. I'll have to find some of their work online to watch
@itsyaboypedro
@itsyaboypedro 3 жыл бұрын
can't help it but to cry by only looking at the clips you provided of these animations, even if they were just simple walking cycles, they just do something to me You can feel them in their art in a way I haven't experienced before
@katd1845
@katd1845 3 жыл бұрын
This was absolute genius. I completely understand why they both are doing this and I completely agree. This is the true definition of a torture artist ..
@ItsAllNunya
@ItsAllNunya 3 жыл бұрын
What a special, ethereal sort of....im not sad. yearning. longing. for something that will clearly never be. a labor of love so intense that nothing less than perfection will suffice. i understand. I only wish to see what manages to be completed by the time there is no more time, yeah?
@ultimaidyt
@ultimaidyt 3 жыл бұрын
as someone with a special interest in the history of animation, i am shocked that i've never heard of these two. time to go watch all their work!
@wrongIQ
@wrongIQ Жыл бұрын
dude...
@EugeneOneguine
@EugeneOneguine Жыл бұрын
Check out the works of Starewitch too, if you don't know him.
@oddstrosity
@oddstrosity Жыл бұрын
I rarely rewatch KZbin videos since there's such a constant stream of new content to watch on here, but this channel is definitely an exception. This video is great, I love stories about passionate, persistent artists.
@audreymuzingo933
@audreymuzingo933 Жыл бұрын
This is my 2nd watch too!
@Skitdora2010
@Skitdora2010 3 жыл бұрын
As a fellow artist who has spent years on a single project, I fully understand how they feel. They have been doing other projects which delays work on their primary goal, so it isn't like they are only working on just the film. Maybe we want to see what they are working on, but all great artists leave behind unfinished work. What hurts is the work they or others throw out or destroy.
@PlutoTheGod
@PlutoTheGod 2 жыл бұрын
In a way it could probably never live up to the amount of work they’re putting into it in terms of getting what they’d want response wise from it, so maybe it’s good they just continue to get enjoyment out of perfecting it rather than expecting any reaction to it as it’s their life’s works
@L_Aster
@L_Aster 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like almost every artist, writer, or creator in general can relate to that feeling of devoting so much time and effort to a project that just sits there. But this scale is absolutely horrifying to think about. It really puts the year I spent redoing the intro to my comic that's just getting redone in a much better way anyway into perspective. Things like this really need to be done with a level of awareness of where you're going and exactly how you spend your time if they're going to be successful. But obviously, that's not their goal. I just can't stop thinking about how it must be to work on that film, if their (maybe just his...) philosophy is that they need to suffer to make good art
@tooruoikawa8985
@tooruoikawa8985 3 жыл бұрын
Just think of all the wonderful art out there no one has ever seen!
@childofcascadia
@childofcascadia 9 ай бұрын
As an artist creating a work, it reaches a point where you have to say 'its good enough'. You are always gonna be your own worst critic, and theres always gonna be things to improve on. And if you get caught in the trap of perfection, youre never going to release a thing.
@EngineMusic
@EngineMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Even if they never finish it, it is still possibly the greatest animated film of all time with no competition to any other animated film. their work brings out a creative debate that an artist always has with themselves, perfectly unfinished? or Imperfectly finished? while finishing things is important for carrying on the imagination, letting it drift elsewhere, as opposed to leaving it in one setting forever, idea to idea, you always look back on yourself knowing that you could have done this or you should have done that. that should have been brown and that line could have been straighter. those issues can be solved if the project is never finished, but that is the downfall. it never finishes.
@daviddeltoro1808
@daviddeltoro1808 3 жыл бұрын
Atrocity Guide's intense dedication to the obscure deserves it's own Atrocity Guide video. Always worth the wait.
@WitchingHourYT
@WitchingHourYT 3 жыл бұрын
Ah - I've loved his work ever since watching "The Hedgehog in the Fog"! I'm always thrilled to see you cover such unique personalities and their life struggles.
@paraiax4341
@paraiax4341 3 жыл бұрын
I am yet again left speechless. Another video that i find to be on another level compared to other KZbinrs. Ill be impatiently waiting for the next. Keep up the incredible work Atrocity 💚
@Т1000-м1и
@Т1000-м1и Жыл бұрын
Recently discovered this channel because of the cult documentaries as a part of discovering new bits of culture. Was pleasantly surprised to rediscover some old culture as well. It's definitely an experience watching these cartoons between the ages of 4 and 6. A lot of the more artistic American one's made me think about common tropes in cartoons and whatnot. Old Soviet stuff makes you feel everything that's behind what you're seeing, sometimes including things you thought of while mindlessly drawing the first things that came to mind and trying to turn it into something coherent, other times being scared by what is just black pencil. And it was very normal for little kids to be scared, then laugh about it in a group. It was our fun. You could feel the flow of life. The very pure force of concept. Maybe it wasn't an essay, maybe for us it was just a few words, a quick remark about what we thought and why it was interesting, with only a few sentences behind those few words. But these ideas and feelings grew and became parts of other things. While thinking about daily routine, there would always be a barely noticeable part of this old art in the feelings. That's what the Soviet Union is for us, and the point is that everyone know about everyone else knowing. This has no coherent meaning, just like the feelings I talked about. And this isn't written during a calm between surges of some kind of illness. It's called "things are so much that way, I guess you could even say that something is just like this..."
@mirthblaster36
@mirthblaster36 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this-- I'm a huge fan of their work but only knew that production on The Overcoat had stretched on for decades, not a lot of the details and excerpts you offer here. I hope they finish it and that I can one day see it, but their work speaks for itself and they don't owe anyone anything, so if it is never completed they are still legends with a brilliant body of work.
@liammiller3011
@liammiller3011 3 жыл бұрын
Out of all the youtubers, I look forward to and appreciate your works the most -- by a far margin.
@do3807
@do3807 3 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly just glad they had each other all this time. Doing what you love, with the person you love... That's a dream for many people, I hope it's theirs too. That they're living the dream.
@AnomalyAnalysis
@AnomalyAnalysis 3 жыл бұрын
Excited to see this! Don't think I've ever heard of this story before.
@mauropereira187
@mauropereira187 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most horrifying thing I can think of as a doodle person to think of, like 40 years of a single project holy shit that’s a lot.
@boznsjbruhstudios6383
@boznsjbruhstudios6383 3 жыл бұрын
15 hours ago dude comon
@inlikeflynn7238
@inlikeflynn7238 3 жыл бұрын
One word to describe atrocity guide, dreamlike. A dream can be both terrible and frightening but also sublime and uplifting. She covers stories that are often about obsessive modern artists but instead of being judgemental and critical of their seemingly endless and arguably (by some) pointless enterprise she seems to show through some mathematical formulation or devilry of surreal storytelling that none of it is pointless. That something beautiful and very human happens in this realm of extreme artistic expression that often verges on insanity and self-harm. I would liken it to zen sand paintings which are painted over the course of months only to be destroyed moments after they are finished but this is not a zen philosophy channel and there is something else to this phenomenon that is hard to put into words both painful and poignant. AG is an experience that I can hardly quantify but having experienced it I now find it necessary.
@ungurdagda813
@ungurdagda813 3 жыл бұрын
Once I read the thumbnail, I immediately thought of The King and the Mockingbird. Thank you for bringing it up, not enough people talk about that film. I still want to find an English subbed version of it available for download or purchase in some form some day, and this film will definitely be the one I hope to see next within my lifetime. In addition to their other work, of course.
@DrunkTalkin
@DrunkTalkin 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic. And I gasped when Ludmilla’s name was mentioned - I’m a massive fan of her work and had no idea she was a part of all this. Sad and desperate at the same time, their work is magical, I’ve never seen anything like it.
@bellwitch007
@bellwitch007 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a sad story and I get the feeling that is exactly what Yuri wants to be.
@brandonsz7937
@brandonsz7937 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video, I had never heard of Yuri and Francheska's films before and I'm absolutely blown away, easily the most beautiful animation I have ever seen.
@pablomtube
@pablomtube Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this wonderful tribute. I consider Yuri Norstein one of the genius artists of the 20th century, in any discipline. And props also for highlighting the fundamental role of Francheska Yarbusova, often neglected when considering the work of her husband. These two are a treasure to humanity, and that little studio where they work should be considered a World Heritage site.
@sky44david
@sky44david 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most comprehensive well crafted documentary on Yuri Norstein. During the years that I taught animation (1980-84) at Harvard's Carpenter Center For the Visual Arts, we attempted to sponsor Yuri Norstein in person with the award winning "Tale Of Tales" to come to the U.S. That was prohibited by the Russian government, however we did get approval for "cultural representatives" Galina Levetina (now Khitruk) and one other person to come, with much bureaucratic "red tape" and money, they did make it bringing 35mm film prints with a complete show of Nortstein's animation, with "Tale Of Tales" the high light. We got to see "Hedgehog In the Mist (or Fog) for the first time in the U.S. Norstein is the most brilliant creator in animation history and just like Andre Tarkvosky, not truly honored in their own country.
@papabrownown5524
@papabrownown5524 3 жыл бұрын
Animation is a beautifully tedious artform. Whether The Overcoat is ever complete, I feel it'll still be renowned for the amazing attention to detail, and an inspiration for many. I know it certainly inspires me. It's odd that it is both inspiring and a lesson / warning. I hope that someday all of the animation is released, fully or otherwise. I'm grateful that in their lifetime they have still created other completed works, however small they may be.
@Pillowtap
@Pillowtap 3 жыл бұрын
As someone that does lots of writing, people like this make me reflect on my works. It's fine to put work into things, but at some point, you need to ground yourself in reality and ship it. There's not any one thing worth spending your whole life on. Other people can do whatever they want, of course, but personally, I don't want to get trapped doing one thing for so long. Especially since your life's work will eventually be forgotten or outshined by something better and it will all have been for naught.
@Callaxes
@Callaxes 3 жыл бұрын
I think delaying the deadline can become habit forming and even a self-defense mechanism, especially when you can tell yourself that the quality of your work will make up for the long wait.
@Pillowtap
@Pillowtap 3 жыл бұрын
@@Callaxes Yeah, pretty scary. Literally expirenced that myself in smaller forms.
@MrAaaaazzzzz00009999
@MrAaaaazzzzz00009999 3 жыл бұрын
At that point its more for themselves rather than to gain anything from it.
@colbyrawiri
@colbyrawiri 3 жыл бұрын
I feel your argument absolutely but think they may be continuing for a love for the process are just simply for themselves. I also respect it, although I hope if I where in the same seat I could manage that work as well as outputting other stuff. This being said a quarter into the video granted. I would settle for a morsel of their passion, its truly beautiful.
@paulg3686
@paulg3686 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody dies, everybody forgets everything, as long as someone is enjoying what they're doing, who cares if it never gets finished. That kind of lifes work is fulfilling, and that matters.
@sumroks7020
@sumroks7020 3 жыл бұрын
you would think her monotone voice wouldn’t be enough for viewers to stay interested but it’s the most articulate shit I’ve ever heard I can’t get enough
@aliveandwellinisrael2507
@aliveandwellinisrael2507 3 жыл бұрын
I personally have no interest in art, but yeah - the next thing I knew, 45 mins had gone by
@bepinkfloyd814
@bepinkfloyd814 3 жыл бұрын
@@aliveandwellinisrael2507 same my dude, i was just lighting my joint and now 45 minutes later i'm high As a kite and this was sooo good to watch. Amazing video
@carfscawthonii6937
@carfscawthonii6937 3 жыл бұрын
I watched other youtube videos and I wanted to sleep despite being short and 15min the longest. Then Im surprised that I still have energy to finish this video without feeling sleepy given the monotonic voice. I conclude its all about the interest and this video is full in quality
@eiffe
@eiffe 3 жыл бұрын
You do realize you are watching computer-generated content?
@sumroks7020
@sumroks7020 3 жыл бұрын
@@eiffe wtf
@Hannahgs
@Hannahgs 3 жыл бұрын
As an animator myself, I don’t think I would have the dedication to work on something like this for so long! Every day, too. Truly inspiring and incredible work.
@Chocolate_teapot420
@Chocolate_teapot420 Жыл бұрын
This guys reminds of George R.R Martin. He can’t finish his masterpiece, but he refuses to accept any help to speed it up. Amazing how some artists are so unwilling to compromise on their vision.
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