The antebellum homes of Natchez, Mississippi

Natchez once boasted over 500 millionaires, more than any other city in the United States, except New York. In this short video, Charlie Adams shows you antebellum homes of those millionaires, including Longwood, circa 1858-61. It is the largest remaining octagonal house in the United States. It is a superb example of the mid-19th century Oriental style and was originally designed by it's owner, Dr. Haller Rush Nutt, with solar panels (strategically place mirrors) to reflect the sun's rays for the purpose of heating water. However, when the Civil War began, the workmen who were from the north, abandoned saws and hammers and returned home. Dr. Nutt, also a northerner, lost his wealth and plantations across the river in Louisiana and died a broken man. Longwood remains unfinished today, but that is part of its charm. Charlie takes you through the rooms and corridors of this most unusual house where you will find the workmen's tools left where they were dropped, abandoned in their haste to quit the South.
Since 2006 Charlie has taken hundreds of people on group travel trips for Edgerton's Travel, where he shares inspirational stories from his keynotes and seminars along the way. A former award winning television anchor, he also produces a 60 minute DVD documentary for travelers. Here on youtube, he shares short clips from the documentaries, which can educate you on places you may want to visit one day. For more information on all of Edgerton's group trips, www.edgertonstr... and for information on Charlie's motivational presentations you can go to www.charlieadam...

[@Jstokesboyd]

As a southern black person I have never understood why ppl choose these homes for a wedding. A WEDDING, something so beautiful and pure in a place that caused much pain and suffering. Can someone explain please.

[@blyt5046]

They won't, because they don't give a damn, and not only that they have no concept. Of what it's like to be black in America. They never will.

[@CoyoteCoop]

Gone with the wind got popular, and people wanted a wedding that resembles that film, at least that’s why most people that have antebellum weddings do it

[@leikilimaile2565]

Thank you for making this video

[@bigpimping15]

I been there. They didn’t show the slave quarters, it’s on the property just a few feet down from the house

[@deede2991]

My Favorite: What a beautiful home!!!!!

[@peacemakerbrantley1437]

This is off of the backs of black people, they are proud of it ... Wow!!!

[@peacemakerbrantley1437]

KIn no way can you are anyone else justify the horrible atrocities that took place...

[@ednakelley814]

So being a historian mean you're proud of slavery? What an idiot. Go dig up the guilty dead and perform your virtue signaling there but stop attacking innocent people who are simply teaching history.

[@CoyoteCoop]

@@ednakelley814 I think what the original commenter is trying to say is to be proud of even through such a tough situation, they still had excellent craftsmanship

[@annt.7785]

It's hilarious how they used every word except slaves. They used servants, and workers but not once did they say slave. They weren't ashamed of their past or their grandparents past so why are they so ashamed of saying slaves.

[@snarkyboots]

?????????

[@jojoscomics652]

+snarkyboots what is not to understand in my statement?

[@578sundriedAZ]

They even fraudulently reported on the census stating the slaves were migrant or local farm help.... They were being taxed for slaves and did not want to report actual populations.Oh ahem! (Best tax avoidance scheme used back then and in today!!). Dynamic deceptive pink devils!

[@TheSuperbeauty24]

exactly bc that would mean that they were really lazy exploiters of free labor which in turn means their heirs should turn "their" inheritance over to the rightful owners.

[@578sundriedAZ]

Say it!!

[@tedperry6466]

I don't know why, but for some reason I'm craving a bucket of Kentucky Fried Chicken???

[@blyt5046]

Well, most southern whites eat it anyway because the blacks had to cook it for them. Why you think you making fun of black people eating chicken is funny, Think about that man saying that The slaves had to whistle when they were taking the food to them. They wouldn't let them eat anything decent. You think you're funny, but you're not even close. More like disgusting.

[@CoyoteCoop]

I don’t know why either considering that this is Mississippi

[@pinkpetals601]

I hate riding thru Natchez and Port Gibson. It gives me a bad feeling, it’s very eerie

[@kassandramorgan3856]

Try the turning angel cemetery and devil's punch bowl in Natchez it is really nice history

[@sportsfan120577]

Do you ever drive through Jonesville, Louisiana?

[@MichaelSmith-jw8qw]

incredible construction for the time--I don't think it could be done today

[@edthesecond]

It couldn't, now that you have to pay the laborers.

[@MoniqueHolmes]

Wow African Americans built these homes yet received no credit or compensation. This is heartbreaking

[@writtenbyrharrison]

@@MoniqueHolmes Our people created great homes, yet they were abused, whipped and lynched. Their blood cries up from the ground of this place. We must continue to live the best lives possible in honor of them. So many millions of enslaved died and were forgotten, but God above remembers them and all of their sorrows!

[@justpassingthrough3166]

Now I can picture Greg Iles novels.

[@michaelranallo8804]

I visited Longwood in 1983 awesome story

[@dexterjones8172]

One big lie people don't disappear do you know what war looks like? Now look again my friend

[@karenbartlett1307]

Beautiful houses, and beautiful period dresses the women are wearing. I just wish their hair was long and dressed, as in the old days. It would go much better with their dresses.

[@mittabee]

That story about the slaves having to whistle while they carried the food to the house was sad. Must have been humiliating not to be trusted with a couple plates of food?!! and why was the lady smiling when she spoke of such cruelty? seems like a sick thing to want to remember that and to repeat it on a daily basis? I am all for preserving the past but their is absolutely nothing to celebrate about that story at all!!

[@annt.7785]

+Marissa Bannister I agree.

[@maclaum61]

...and calling them servants. I believe in preserving history, but painting it with a pretty brush is not okay. Southerners need not be ashamed of the past as long as they have learned from it.

[@annt.7785]

Mac Laum But most haven't learned from it unfortunately, and a lot of them still want to pretend we're still living in those days. I live in the south now, and it's very sad to see so many things are still segregated and so much racism still exists.

[@windstorm1000]

but they haven't learned entirely--that's the issue here.

[@desi_blackgirl4949]

Honest Comments and your comment will always be irreverent and stupid..

[@chevexx1111]

Servants? She means slaves. And the whistle rule says everything you need to know about the generosity of the planter class. They got what they deserved.

[@ednakelley814]

Well it depends on the house. Some people owned slaves. Some did not own slaves but had hired servants on staff. Don't assume that just because someone lived in the south that they were a slave owner. They could have been an abolitionist. As I said, it depends on who you're talking about. Don't paint with a wide brush.

[@ednakelley814]

The whistle story is one of those stories that are told at many historic places but are not true. There is not logic in it. Slaves made the food. They could eat it when they made it. They don't need to wait till they take it to the dinning room.

[@keenkano6662]

It’s insulting and deceitful how they keep calling the people who built and served at that place laborers and servants.!! THEY WERE ENSLAVED BLACK HUMANS.!! My ancestors.!! Call it what it was and is.!! Stop hiding trying to white wash the truth of the horror that took place on those grounds for generations and even now.

[@hellokitty2397]

Thank you. The delusions of these “people” are real. Smh

[@MaryAustinup]

I want to work there as a tour guide. How can I make that happen? A dream job.

[@Elvisguy]

where are u from?

[@MaryAustinup]

Currently Chattanooga, TN

[@--EL]

those "workers" were happy af to get out of there.

[@ednakelley814]

If you're referring to slaves it depends on the location. Many left but you would be surprised on how many former slaves stayed on as staff on the properties they were there were former slaves.

[@itsallgood4093]

If you read the history below the video you will see they are referring to the workers that were there from the North that left and went home when the war began.

[@marylougreen9136]

Excellent!!

[@windstorm1000]

why don't they finish it? could be even more of an incredible showpiece.

[@CoyoteCoop]

They lost all their money after the Civil War

[@HelloKittyDuh1987]

Awesome

[@lulubelleish]

Thank's

[@garyjsimm]

His “workers”😂😂😂

[@bridgetteconeal1580]

Will this become an Air bnb?

[@jimjones4422]

is this a mudflood house?

[@herberttietel2554]

It sure looks like it, complete with a b's backstory to go with it. I live in Olympia Washington and we have our own Antideluvian leftovers for example our State Capitol and others.

[@goodbyebluesky2641]

yup

[@jamewweatherford4296]

Why dont you show the Noths plantations im pretty sure their in great shape inless they had self hate back then and destroyed them their selfs but highly likely.

[@jamewweatherford4296]

You want to make a bet on it? There was slavery every where , and theres slavery now but your to brain washed and indoctrinated in their schools to know this.maybe you'll be smart enough one day to see your own slavery and stop worrying about some elses slavery 250 years ago.ok im through with you , theres only so much i can take from you dummied down individuals.bye

[@figgy709]

nice, thanks for sharing. I always thought tour homes should have a few charaters doing things around the place, maids making the bed, etc. Great stuff

[@edthesecond]

Maybe even a slave being horsewhipped in the back yard. Let's go for realism here.

Nothing was done by maids. There were only slaves working to serve the lazy, worthless killers who lived here.

[@austinyork9296]

why not just say his slaves built it? The truth will set you free.

[@tedcarter1030]

Where is Harriet Tubman's house ? One of the greatest Americans.

[@ednakelley814]

Find it and do a history video on it for us!. Thanks

[@dianebrady6784]

Samuel Clemons had an octagonal house (apparently the operative word) in Elmira NY. So I suppose the argument would end by so done stipulating that a house and mansion are very concrete terms.

[@bettybeiling7791]

yes samuel did have octagonal in elmira and is buried in woodlawn i live in Elmira ny the whole family is buried in elmira

[@desi_blackgirl4949]

Not workers.....SLAVES.... BE HONEST IN YOUR WORDS

[@bigpimping15]

I went to the Longwood tour. Why tf we can't take know pictures downstairs?

[@redlitego6085]

Because that is where they kept the slaves and the spirits might come loose

[@urbaneinstein]

Beautiful construction. But the history surrounding that home and other moorish styled structures are VERY wrong...

[@edthesecond]

But what about the slaves? Huh? Huh? Anyhow, I've read that when Uncle Billy Sherman headed south, his army foraged and stole to eat but they didn't destroy the property of the poor whites and the poor Blacks, who often did not have enough food because the landed gentry loved to hoard. Sherman burned plantation houses because he knew who was behind that war. Also, in terms of Karma, the slaves told the Union troops where to cross the river, where the Confederate Army was encamped, and where massa hid the family silver and the fine racehorses.

[@SilvioManfredDante85]

Surely, you aren't ignorant enough to believe that the war as about slavery....

[@CoyoteCoop]

Sherman was in Georgia, Natchez is in Mississippi, and these weren’t plantations, the houses were too high up from the river and the land was too hilly to even be a plantation, rather, they were townhouses and garden estates

[@paulpage1410]

@@CoyoteCoop No they were plantations just they were built over 100 years ago and back then their were fields all around them. They were built close to the river because of shipping the cotton. I live in Mississippi and know alot of the history.

[@CoyoteCoop]

@@paulpage1410 No they weren’t. Natchez Mississippi is too high and too hilly for crop. Not only that but these houses were built essentially IN Natchez, which had been around much longer than those houses had. All these plantation owners that lived there had house less plantations on the Louisiana side of the river, where it was flatter and closer to the water. Not all plantations needed a big mansion. Research the history of THESE houses before trying to correct someone.

[@CoyoteCoop]

@@paulpage1410 I live in Louisiana, and I know a lot of the history of Natchez too because I visit there multiple times a year

[@32juancruz]

Amazing homes!

[@ednakelley814]

The White House was built by slaves and many slaves work in it over the centuries. SO using your own logic, the White House is a monument to human evil then and now don't you agree?

[@ednakelley814]

@ Slaves have not worked in these homes in over 160 years either. I understand you're angry at slavery. I agree with that. Where I disagree with you is that you attack museums and historians as if they are to blame. You're attacking the messenger. And then when I call you out on that, your default is to say that I am in concert with the confederacy. (you say "My flag, my whore house" etc..) Work on your reading comprehension skills. NO WHERE have I defended slavery. I only defend historians and teaching of American History. Can you comprehend the difference?

[@32juancruz]

@@ednakelley814 no I'm not agree but the houses are really very beautiful

[@ednakelley814]

@@32juancruz I agree with you. I was using logic with someone who said since these homes were made by slaves that they should be destroyed.

[@paulpage1410]

@@ednakelley814 Edna Kelley you are an idiot! Why would you destroy something that brings pleasure to many but only a few dislike. They are beautiful and timeless. They are a part of history.

[@richardvergara]

Wow!!! Look at all those charming white people.

[@apriledmonds4775]

Is this a plantation I find to hard to listen to the people laugh i would be crying thinking of the slavery and torture that took place there...My GOD I have to see this place..

[@writtenbyrharrison]

April God above will always remember them. We must honor them by living and achieving all God has placed before us. I am an award winning screenwriter at the Las Vegas Black Film Festival. I want to tell stories that took place in the Antebellum South, and make movies of this time. God bless you April and all of your endeavors. I will never forget the black genocide that took place in these mansions our ancestors built.

[@writtenbyrharrison]

@Eddie Chavis i am sure of that...pure evil.

[@ednakelley814]

It WAS a plantation. It isn't now. It's a museum. There is a difference.

[@apriledmonds4775]

@@ednakelley814 I don't agree rather it's an active plantation or not I see no reason for laughter my people suffered and were beaten raped and sold from the loved ones I disagree with u there's no differ to me respect is respect..

[@apriledmonds4775]

@Eddie Chavis yes I've been on the trace I have family in Tupelo its alot of history...

[@key__13]

Stolen land

[@sharonfauber2118]

Kentucky fried chicken guy

[@yadabenyisrael4092]

Elohim wont " Get over It"..."those who led into captivity ...will GO into captivity"....

[@LeslieAnneCookSustaita]

Why don't you take some time & truly research your ancestors & the HUGE role they played in the slave trade. It was the Africans who sold your ancestors into slavery. Do you really think people could just roll up to the West Coast of Africa & kidnap 600 people & then get them on a boat without anyone noticing? You're a fool. Without their cooperation? You'd still be in Africa. Sub Saharan Africa. Furthermore, it seems the black American is the only race of people who cannot stop the sniveling & whining about slavery. Stop with the bullshit. You wanna go after somebody? Try your own ancestors in Africa, who give tours of the dungeons they kept slaves in until the boats showed up. Kept in darkness. Fed once a day. Shit & pissed where they sat or stood b/c it was usually very crowded. Then any slave that was too sick or too old? Were buried Alive. The Africans knew what awaited your ancestors. They say they kept the slaves in the dark to help them adjust to the time they'd spend in the hull of the ships, in the dark. They had gold, diamonds, spices, whatever. They surely could've traded other things besides their own people. BUT THEY DID. No one else did this. Muslims sold Christians. Christians sold Muslims. Africans? Sold Africans. This is where the racism comes from. Go hash it out with the Arab Muslims & the Africans. They'll tell you that it was 'just a sign of the times'. Or an 'unfortunate era'. They charge about $20 per person, to tour the dungeons where the slaves where kept, etc... Still making money off of the slaves misery. Go cuss the Portuguese. They took about 4.9 million Africans to Brazil. And the Arabs? Been enslaving Africans since the 7th century & continue to do so today. With impunity.

[@windstorm1000]

exactly. hat this 'get over it' crap--its dealing with history honestly--otherwise it just keeps coming back.

[@windstorm1000]

you are the orginal ugly American! lol

[@SilvioManfredDante85]

Blacks are not the original Israelites. :) :) :) :)

[@juliejones2838]

I live 20 min away .

[@pichaelthompson3291]

I wonder how much of a difference Mississippi is frm Los Angeles

[@libertylovingbeckles6797]

Huge difference man. Can't be compared.

[@blyt5046]

It's mighty different since Hurricane Katrina came along and washed away a lot of those plantations. That's what I love about a hurricane. It comes straight from Africa.

[@jamielunes1841]

Would u like some fruit? A peach perhaps?!

[@bridgetteconeal1580]

😂🤮😡

[@chevexx1111]

The antebellum dressing is disgusting. This structure should teach history; not romanticize it.

[@ednakelley814]

Oh please. Get over yourself. These are museums with costumed guides. Abolitionists whore the SAME style clothing. Clothing styles do not mean slavery. If you were in France during this period you would have seen the same style. Mary Lincoln wore dresses like these. I'm so sick of people like you on the left. If a historic home talks about slavery then they are "romanticizing and glorifying " slavery but if a historic house does not talk about slavery then they are "glossing over and white washing" slavery. You can't have it both ways. Go dig up the guilty dead and perform your virtue signaling there but leave the innocent historians who are trying to work a job by teach history alone. But with your self-righteous attitude you must lay the sin of slavery on someone so a tour guide is your easy target.

[@ednakelley814]

@ So burn the White House too? You love to bring up the KKK so I would assume you would agree that the democrat party should be banned too. I'm just following your logic. The Democratic party was the pro-slavery party. The party of the Trail of Tears. The party that authored the Jim Crow laws. So with your logic anything historically connected to slavery should be banned. SO you agree the Democrat party should be gone? And you agree that African -America craftsmanship (these homes) should be destroyed so that descendants of the slaves can't see their history? That's what you're saying. I'll wait

[@bash060656]

This is not nearly all of them. Natchez has been known for a port on the Mississippi for cotton, slave trade, gambling, harlots, crime and duels on the sand bar. Most of the plantation / mansion owners lived high on the bluffs and farmed on the Louisiana side low lands to avoid the annual spring floods. As spectacular as Longwood is, my favorite is Dunleath, a stately grand columned mansion and next would be Monmouth. Stanton Hall another rich in history. There are many other smaller places if interest like St. Mary's Cathedral, Natchez Under-the-Hill, King's Tavern and many smaller antebellum homes just as old as the grand mansions like the Parsonage. Near Natchez is an antebellum home, Springfield Plantation, where Andrew Jackson got married to (I think her name was) Rachael Donnelson and a duel was called over that. Seems Judge Donnelson withheld the divorce paperwork until after Rachael and Andrew were married and sullied her name as a Bigamist. This infuriated Andrew. I don't know if the duel ever took place since Andrew Jackson was running for political office at the time. So If you want to see how it was done in the South, Natchez is a library of touchable history. Be free to correct me, as I'm an old man now and just standing up is a major endeavor and my memory isn't what it used to be.

[@joanlantis4497]

am i the only one who is disturbed by this video?wealthy by the sweat of someone elses brow. whistle so you dont eat the food? such selfishness i do declare!

[@tammy2388]

Turn into bed an breakfast again people talking about slave heartbreaking 😭 but the land belong to America natives

[@labananiere]

Quelque femmes ont fait un réel effort pour s’embellir, longue robe du passé; toute les autres c'est la laideur conventionnelle habituelle

[@orethawitcher3133]

Homes that were built by slaves

[@marycahill546]

Whistle walk for the "servants' Really? Are you afraid to say "slaves"?

[@ednakelley814]

We are here to listen to history. You are here to perform virtue signaling. Okay, we have all seen you so you can now go on your self righteous way. Bye

[@lilcourtny08]

@@ednakelley814 more whitewashing

[@ednakelley814]

@@lilcourtny08 Well if they talk about slavery then they say they are "glorifying it" and if they don't talk about it then they are "white washing" it. So they are racist if they do and racist if they don't . SO pick one.

[@lilcourtny08]

@@ednakelley814 what? Certain people like to skip over the real horrors of slavery. Tell the whole story how they beat, raped, and tormented daily.

[@ednakelley814]

@@lilcourtny08 Well that would depend on what historic site. As professional historians you have to go with the historic evidence for that particular place. For example, Take Mont Vernon. They can only tell you what they know specifically happened at Mt. Vernon. They are not at the liberty to make it up. Just because slaves were beat at one plantation does not give historic licences to say that happened at a different one. Professional historians have to go on evidence.

[@AltaAnastazYah]

Sick minded ppl visiting this horror house. The ghosts of those enslaved should walk the halls and scatter this peepshow.

[@shanacain6730]

This is sad I bet they haven't donated one dime to the education of the slaves descendants!....I bet that plantation holds plenty of hateful southern hospitality!

[@daryelmiller6922]

you really need to go there and learn the real history i think that you would be surprised I am not saying that slavery was anything to be proud of but it did happen but you are only getting one side of the story President Harry S Truman of Missouri when ask what he thought of the written history of the Civil war replied Lies all Lies because it was written by the winners much like the crap that the liberal news media is feeding you today

[@AltaAnastazYah]

They dressing like it was a great time in history. Sick minded ppl.

[@ednakelley814]

When you can't put the sin of slavery on the guilty party then just attack innocent historian tour guides. Easy target

[@ednakelley814]

@@AltaAnastazYah They are dressed to the period. Dress has nothing to do with slavery. That's how Mary Lincoln would have dressed too. Please don't attack innocent tour guides just performing a job and teaching history. They didn't commit the sin of slavery

[@ednakelley814]

Please tell us how much money YOU have donated to the education of the slaves?

[@dottiesmith2439]

All these plantation are full of evil...

[@CoyoteCoop]

These aren’t plantations, they’re townhouses owned by cotton planters

[@lperez3154]

They need to pass their jobs on to the younger generation Seeing those beautiful dress's on elderly women was really lame. They didn't suite it lol

[@bettynewton6160]

shooting star What kind of dress do you think "old women" wore back then? Possibly sack cloth or burlap?

[@edthesecond]

The question is does the younger generation want those jobs. The young white racists might do it but somebody with a massive beer gut, a dirty tee-shirt, and a three day growth of facial hair is just not going to look good in an antebellum dress, especially when that beer can is permanently attached to his hand.

[@ballsdanglin]

The devil's punch bowl is the most hunted place in the world!

[@rachellefint858]

Hit Her With The Mule Ahh you know of it? I have been. Your aware of what it is.

[@ballsdanglin]

rachelle fint I know exactly what happened there!

[@devontecaples1993]

+Hit Her With The Mule what kinda things have you seen. I'm sure it's like a jungle i live in Minneapolis it's got the same cliffs but not nearly as forrested. It's the downtown

[@constancemontfort8496]

The Southern belles did not wear such stupid dresses. They did not have short hair. They were beautiful. They wore corsets and had very small waists. Watch Gone With the Wind.

[@Kat_Beezy]

constance montfort 😂😂

[@edthesecond]

And Hobbits are all four feet tall. Watch Lord Of The Rings.

[@ednakelley814]

@ John at it again. Insulting innocent modern day tour guides who had NOTHING to do with slavery. These are innocent people performing a job and talking about history. John can't put the sin of slavery on the true guilty party because they are dead so he attacks the innocent tour guides. It's an easy target. Then if you come to the defense of these people who make a living as a historian, then John accuses you as being loyal to the Confederacy.

@@ednakelley814 As usual, you're commenting while hallucinating. I did not comment on the tour guides at any point, only on their nasty scripts. Also, the guides are not historians. Had they the intelligence and education to be historians, then that's what they would be rather than tour guides. But then you clearly don't know the difference. The act of glorifying slavery, as you do with such vigor, is typical of your current Church of the KKK. You are a credit to your race.

[@ednakelley814]

@ As usual, you result to your default that if someone disagrees with you they are connected to the KKK. You just make stuff up with no evidence. Try going on fact instead of emotion.

[@momofmandm7029]

All of these homes should be destroyed!!! Why are people still making money off of this?

[@SilvioManfredDante85]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

[@itsallgood4093]

Because good or bad it's our history too. Destroying all these home won't change history.

[@ednakelley814]

Well, unlike you, most reasonable people want to preserve African-American history for future generations. These homes, that you want destroyed, are from their craftsmanship and talent.

[@ednakelley814]

@ So a brick and mortar structure means slavery? Is the country of Germany today a memorial to Hitler? Yes or NO ?

[@itsallgood4093]

@ I concede the fact that the tours are not done in the way they should be, with southern belles and men dressed as plantation owners. That is distressing. There should be those that can discuss the architecture and others can can address slavery. But in no way do I condone the destruction of these. Burning them does nothing but erase the past from which we all need to learn.

[@mittabee]

That story about the slaves having to whistle while they carried the food to the house was sad. Must have been humiliating not to be trusted with a couple plates of food?!! and why was the lady smiling when she spoke of such cruelty? seems like a sick thing to want to remember that and to repeat it on a daily basis? I am all for preserving the past but their is absolutely nothing to celebrate about that story at all!!

[@teresaharrell57]

+Marissa Bannister have you considered servitude during other periods of history, for example, Tudor England? Look it up, I think I would gladly whistle!

[@-lowe5765]

How do you even try compare slavery from an age and era you only have the faintest connection to, with chattel slavery of the 18th-19th century? Do better

[@annt.7785]

+Marissa Bannister That's why a lot of them still want slavery to exist. Notice how he used the term "workers" rather that slaves. He's not fooling anyone.

[@Elvisguy]

great comment! You know it was humiliating and sad. Trust me, I know what kind of people make up Mississippi and the majority is NOT "nice".

[@sharrell1348]

my thoughts exactly. and it was laughed at as though it wasn't offensive.