The Anti-Fun (Yet Balanced) Design of Mo and Krill | Deadlock Design Analysis

[@James-os2rg]

my first game ever carrying with grey talon, there was a Mo and Krill on the other team that decided to ruin my game. I bought debuff remover to get rid of the sand debuff, he bought refresher. I decided the floor was lava, he bought majestic leap. He'd proceed to majestic leap towards me, ult me, pop refresher, and then ult again.

[@Matt-uc9hn]

Early on, I used to buy magic carpet on Mo and Krill specifically for Grey Talon, Vindicta and Lash to ult them out of the air

[@nbshftr]

did u win

[@James-os2rg]

@@nbshftr no :)

[@Bonehead_Paladin]

​@@Matt-uc9hn Many Mo and Krill players are big fans of phantom strike for the gap closing and disarm allowing them to use their ult more easily or become better at chasing, PS was also buffed recently to greatly lower the altitude of flying characters hit by it which is a change that greatly benefits Mo and Krill

[@TheGallantDrake]

Antiair mo and krill is something I gotta try

[@analyticalj8687]

Slight correction: Mo and Krill has a 20% Headshot Crit Reduction, so they're more resilient to guns than you may think

[@zaursiukaev7162]

He recieved crit reduction fairly recently tho, he didn't had it a couple patches ago.

[@horatio6384]

Yamato player here. The amount of times this FUCK has BEELINED THROUGH A TEAMFIGHT TO CLICK 4 on me has had me saying very not nice things

[@johnx140]

LMAOOOO

[@daslepistes]

One game I was carrying with Infernus. The Mo on the other team bought Shadow Weave and Alchemical Fire. He kept creeping up on me while invisible, suddenly appearing and one shotting me with his fire and ult combo. I've never been so frasturated playing this game before.

[@HeavensBane53]

All this, but also M&K kinda struggle to carry games, even when ahead. That's a typical part of the anti-carry design, but I thought the perma-scaling and general ability of all deadlock heroes to scale with items might alleviate it, but I have yet to see a M&K that didn't drop off quite a bit as the game went later (including when I play him).

[@Acex2ron]

This is something I've noticed, too. It's hard to pop-off on Mo and Krill when there's no carry to anti

[@goredyn8150]

Yeah, i feel like he needs to gain more buffs when he gets a kill with the ult. But in the beggining I always did spirit mo and krill but it was hard to just do dmg and win a 1v1. Now I have a build that is just point blank, burstfire, head hunter, titanic mag with crippling headshot. Enduring speed bullet lifesteal and torment pulse, mystic slow, and bullet shredder with quicksilver rushing to max the 1. It shreds everyone mid to late game.

[@masoncomes6783]

​@@goredyn8150trust me on this and replace all the t2 and above gun items with just alchemical flask; it makes your combo 2.5k DMG at like 15 minutes and if you go mostly spirit you can get 3.5k at 15 minutes. It's literally the easiest solo kill ever and you can do it every minute. Flask also gives teammates a 50% gun DMG increase so if you have help the enemy gets absolutely obliterated.

[@TheGallantDrake]

​@@masoncomes6783 second this! Flask has transformed how I krill ppl

[@masoncomes6783]

@TheGallantDrake yup! First you (mo)w down the support then krill the carry

[@triforceofgaming9841]

I think there was a patch that added a 3 second window after Combo ends for you to get kill/assist credit and still get the bonus health, so yeah, there's no excuse anymore saving combo for low health enemies. Weird that they didn't update the tooltip tho

[@haileyliao8938]

It’s also possible that Krill is supposed to be a Rat. In reference to New York City being heavily infested with rats and to their gang name the tunnel rats.

[@mrgubberlive1622]

their name is even funnier when you realize that if you swap the names (to become Krill and Mo), it sounds like the word criminal

[@lenacarey2333]

Actually snort laughed at the Tunnel Snakes clip you showed when you were talking about the tunnel rats. Butch stole my sweet roll I really like your analysis-type videos on Deadlock. I’ve watched all of them so far, and I think you do a great job explaining why so many heroes have such great designs! Looking forward to what you put out next !!

[@arhshields]

Mo and Krill remind the teacher to hand out homework for the 3 day weekend.

[@randirafaeli]

Just my own opinion, I never considered Mo and Krill as the anti fun hero. Out of al the hero, they are quite fun to play with and agaisnt. I was never annoyed playing against. The heros that I considered quite anti-fun IMO is Geist and Viscous, because they are super duper oppresive in laning phase.

[@anusaukko6792]

Piss & Shit are imo the least fun to play against, since they're functionally immortal and can never be pushed back unless you gank. One of em can completely win a lane.

[@piggeh2]

Today, I found out Mo wasn't a pig. Im gonna need a digestive.

[@lag00n54]

why would a pig have digging claws like a molerat and dig

[@piggeh2]

@@lag00n54 truffle pigs ig

[@pkim0356]

Lash literally says “That’s one big mole” when he pings them

[@supawithdacream5626]

@@lag00n54 I thought he was a pig too for some reason way back in the early days, he just looked piggy with his nose 🐽 and plump size

[@qwerty1037]

dude please keep doing this type of videos

[@Acex2ron]

More to come--my upload sched is just a bit hazy because I'm moving this month

[@Birkebeiner1066]

Get comboed during binding word was quite possibly the most painful way for me to learn that Binding Word doesn't do shit beyond immobilization (and a slight gun damage boost later on)

[@alexanderross7705]

I thought krill was a rat lol

[@Acex2ron]

I'm not entirely sure myself lmao I just know he has no tail, but a rat would also make sense

[@supawithdacream5626]

"MOLE MAN" vindicate screams out terrified

[@Bonehead_Paladin]

​@@Acex2ronFrom what I heard apparently Krill's design is a remnant from Neon Prime when he was supposed to be an alien and might be a placeholder. The two things that kind of supports this idea further is that Krill's specie is never referred to by anyone (unlike Mo), and the latest piece of art he received was his recent updated minimap icon where he is portrayed as a sort of pointy eared, white eyes, blue skin, Imp-like creature instead of a monkey. Which is interesting to note since the updated icons were made to not diverge too much from the current designs of the characters even if they're placeholders with Bepop being an exception since he has a definitive redesign that has yet to be implemented since it's not a high priority, so Krill being drastically different in his minimap icon might be a byproduct of the devs experimenting with different ideas for his design as they're not completely set on him yet

[@Chroma710]

Their faction is called the rats, they're the debt collectors/bodyguards of this faction. So it's likely krill isn't a rat and we'll get rat themed characters later from the same faction.

[@AosorarisuUnedited]

I'm fairly sure Krill is a rat, several of their lines mention being underground species and dirty, but still having morals. I hope when/if they get skins he gets a rat tail.

[@JADOW28]

I main mo and krill and live for ruining the day of one person in particular. It’s even worse for you if you are a hard carrying flyer.

[@justsomedude77]

minor correction to the lore, viscous is designed on a fish in a bowl and the goo is the fluid she lives in.

[@VoxinVivo]

My only issue with Mo is that his fucking disarm has way too much range and disarms for too long. It should be one or the other, longer range with shorter disarm. Or shorter range with longer disarm

[@SamSGLM]

Mo is my most played at around 60 games and I barely focus on greens, and certainly not defensive ones really. Like you said his abilities and kit over all is the best on the with perhaps the exception of wraith gun and ult thats just to free. Over over all his only weakness are fliers until you get majestic leap then you can find them anyway. I started shying away from stamina because I became starved for slots for just 1 bar and some Regen, most of the time you play around and with burrow so move speed is king. The greens I take most consistently are enduring sprint (rite early to stay in lane, but sell a d it's move speed) healing booster heal bane and majestic leap. With these greens if you have 4 to 5 combo stacks, which with the buffer is more reliable you just got a T3 item sorry of HP for free. Like you said you are near immortal while burrowed and if the hotbox wasn't hard enough to hit you have near full immunity to bullets. I do get spirit armour if it becomes a problem after getting all the purples. There are .ore than 1 way to play mo, can go much more fun that I do I get cq and fleet and only go back when I need slots to fill with warp hunters or alch fire. Reach duration kevlar and pulse streamline how to play him. I used to get bullet shredder because it was defensive stats, now it's melee res and HP, not as attractive but if I'm in a duo or I can't bank on a 5th item pulse I get shred to also help my team kill who I go on (and hunters aura? Later vulnerability too it's like you got crippling head shot for 2500 or 5500 with hunters) In games where they are all gun if they are holding then metal skin for the downtime of being blinded not stunned or I'm burrowed. The character has the most tools. out of any, you just kind of hate infernos because hard to chase if he dashes through you, sustained spirit damage, your weakness, and you lose the burrow speed so fast. They did give mo crit reduction, so far the only one so far and it feels good. What's scary is he's a drain tank that has anti carry spells so you really don't need to focus on defense your kit is defense you just need some utility and some items that also give hybrid stats are welcomed. Akin to bb in dota, mage bruisers from league like gragas or Zac or even in smite where they have plenty of drain tanks but those don't have nearly as much utility or anti carry like hades jormugandr zhong and even chang'e

[@scuraballthetrueone]

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AND KRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILL

[@kringkingen]

I always call him the pig

[@cosmicbrownie2312]

what if instead of Mo and Krill they were called Hawk and Tuah

[@Elrealsodapop200]

MOOOOOO N KRIIIIIIIIIIIIL

[@xponic]

i think mo's self heal is overtuned for early game, i feel like they should scale back the early game life steal. Or increase the cooldown cause that shits absurd

[@Hope-lt3de]

The video still didn't explained who is Mo, and who is Krill... Just kidding, I don't care.

[@FauxCrumpets]

All this kit of harassing and disrupting the enemy made me miss a bit of crystal scorpion skarner

[@elemangell2981]

Great dive on their design! I had no clue they referenced IRL gangsters on top of all the other stuff. Definitely wanna try this duo out now on top of the half a dozen other characters I play lol.

[@Ska1high]

another thing to balance burrow is the fact that you're locked into the spin for its entire duration. if there's nearby highground, such as the bridges on every lane, or a building, or a wire to climb, then burrow is a liability more than anything else. If anything, I would say the duo are slightly underpowered for the fact that it's very easy to get distance on them in the midgame unless they build items for chasing, which scuppers their tankiness.

[@kayauke13]

Mohammad and Kamal are going strong together ;)

[@silverblaze8766]

In terms of animals in the roster Deadlock has viscous Viper (hero lab) And whatever the hell Fathom is supposed to be (also hero lab)

[@Acex2ron]

I don’t count Viscous because design-wise, he is just a goo-person, and neither do I count the hero labs guys until they’re officially out. Also his name will forever be Slork.

[@silverblaze8766]

@Acex2ron I know I'm just saying Mo and Krill are not the only animal in the roster

[@Acex2ron]

@@silverblaze8766yes, but I never mention this in the video. I say “designed after animals,” not “the only animals in the roster”

[@eagleye2893]

@@Acex2ronAh yes “We Have Slark At Home” Goofy Ahh Hero.

[@asddap]

@@Acex2ron Viscous redesign that got leaked on the discord looks like a cthulhu-octupus monster inside a goo body. So yea, he's gonna be an animal-humanoid hero.

[@vvvvv8978]

I’m a day 1 yam main, but my first actual game I did good at was playing mo n krill. They’re now my 2nd pick now that yam is getting hella play.

[@roxombplaysroblox8511]

Note bebop’s gun is easiest in securing souls

[@TwoSouthFarm]

I genuinely like how Krill looks

[@heb-agar6119]

I love them

[@Kaizsu_]

What do Jeffrey Epstein, Diddy, Michael Jackson and Mo and Krill players have in common?

[@juillotine]

would like a similar analysis for all characters pls

[@Holyspirit5509]

Mourice! Morisio! I cant.... i cant move it move it anymore... mourice!!

[@SleepLIVEYT]

i dont know if you ai upscaled the footage or put some sort of motion blur filter on the gameplay footage but its extremely distracting and kind of looks bad

[@Legendary231]

@@FairwellNoob what AI images?

[@Acex2ron]

I don't do any post-processing on the footage, so I think I just play with motion blur on and don't notice?

[@Acex2ron]

​@@FairwellNoob Also I didn't use any AI images so idk what you're talking about

[@iamtehawsomepwner]

Definitely just looks like the game's motion blur + low FPS footage. It's on by default, so it could be easy to miss and not turn off. Dunno what the low framerate is about, since the last few videos didn't have that... but I doubt AI is involved.

[@FairwellNoob]

​@Acex2ron Nevermind I'm stupid it was late and I don't play Dota or LoL so I thought the characters you put on screen looked weird lol

[@SWINGOBAARD]

If you play krill you are a mouthbreather.

[@CarpinchoEnStock]

what about playing Mo

[@Unsupectingwhitevan]

Lash moment

[@boundary2580]

What if I play lash and krill?

[@kujiisz]

always wondered, which is the head

[@zeddexel]

both of their heads count as headshot

[@Imyup]

Just had a krill go 42k everybody else was23k max lol

[@LAZYGAMER-ss1nx]

MF trying to nerf Mo and Krill

[@ZevTheWolfe]

"Yet balanced" LMAO Doesnt get any less unbalanced or easy in high Ascendant The memes are funny though at least

[@laggingjaeger1148]

If you keep getting targeted by MnK, you know you're doing something right. It's absolutely horrible to be on his shitlist, and I dread seeing him on the enemy team, but I get why he exists.

[@guidomista8448]

One thing you got wrong in this video, mo and krill is not balanced. Hes been an A tier hero for the longest in the meta. The pros frequently ban him, or pick him.

[@Acex2ron]

Balance from a core design perspective and balance in the perspective of the top percentage of the playerbase are two different things.

[@viltautasYT]

meanwhile league buffed yone and nerfed poppy, so glad i havent played that crap for 6 months now 😂

[@khanzy.]

braindead laning phase = balanced lol