The Antikythera Mechanism: A Shocking Discovery from Ancient Greece.

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Stanford

8 жыл бұрын

As part of an international team, Dr Tony Freeth has been a central figure in an extraordinary voyage of discovery: every new revelation has reinforced a sense of shock about this highly sophisticated ancient Greek astronomical calculating machine. It is one of the true wonders of the ancient world.

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@Rockmonanov
@Rockmonanov Жыл бұрын
Whenever I fall asleep listening to videos on KZbin, I always wake up to this lecture.
@rs793976boab
@rs793976boab Жыл бұрын
why do we believe we know it all, im afraid i do the same with the pyramids so dont rule out the genious of man?
@zalinabrooks1198
@zalinabrooks1198 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@documentarydetectiveiii5217
@documentarydetectiveiii5217 Жыл бұрын
HUH! Me too. Not always this lecture but some very very bizare and random ones.
@johnbojorquez9608
@johnbojorquez9608 Жыл бұрын
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@johnbojorquez9608
@johnbojorquez9608 Жыл бұрын
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@johnmcclain3887
@johnmcclain3887 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Freeth, I've followed this since 62, when I arrived stateside, having been overseas, "navy brat", was apprized of it then, in Greece, saw an article regarding it mid sixties, and have heard here and there, hints. I'm a mechanic of sixty odd years, and would say it was a good quality working man's tools, as I've made myself, along my way to master machinist. I was five seeing it first, and was truly shocked when I ran across this, not having heard anything for a long time. I think you've done a masterful job, I was amazed decades ago, and again, in my teens, but I've always put it in context with "Hero's steam toy". I've seen a couple other examples of fine detailed machine work, from that time, but as you state, bronze worn out or broken, was recycled. I've made dozens of "engines" for engraving dials, or wheel faces, laying out by degrees, and even mils, for artillery purposes. Thank you for a great presentation, and great work in teasing out all the details, so intricate and and brilliantly discovered.
@Overprotected-rt9mc
@Overprotected-rt9mc Жыл бұрын
What do you know about the Greek god Janus
@paulitza9
@paulitza9 Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely fascinating and I cannot express my gratitude to the fullest by just saying "Thank you for sharing such interesting information." My appreciation for such findings were kindled when I attended Melbourne University, and was welcome into their History and Philosophy of Science department briefly, under the tutelage of Monica, whose inspiration led me to appreciate antiquity ... Life is much too short to fully appreciate our ancestors and their achievements. ... .. .
@johnd1727
@johnd1727 2 жыл бұрын
An outstanding presentation by Dr Tony Freeth. Imagine coming across a poster advertising the coming lecture at Stanford University.... Very few apart from some very deep Science students would give it more than a passing glance. Yet I wandered across it quite by accident - a casual browsing not even supported by a KZbin Algorithm - and I stayed for 1 hour and 48+ minutes. So I can imagine that if an eminent scientist and a relative philistine like myself were to be seated together at this lecture we would rise together in enthusiastic applause at the end of it. I am going to have to think about that a bit. "You don't just make progress in science by getting everything right. You make progress also by getting things wrong in an interesting way."
@Cadrim
@Cadrim 2 жыл бұрын
good copypasta
@patrickday4206
@patrickday4206 Жыл бұрын
I watch these at 1.5 to 2.0 speeds so it just seems like a documentary! 😃
@brianwheeldon4643
@brianwheeldon4643 3 жыл бұрын
A really enjoyable and educational talk. Thank you Tony Freeth and much respect for your scholarship. If more academics had your skill of conversation and ability to convey insights, the world would be a better place.
@link6397
@link6397 Жыл бұрын
Take a look at the Holodomor
@link6397
@link6397 Жыл бұрын
@L.aE.cH. Empire Take a look at the holodomor
@liammurphy2725
@liammurphy2725 2 жыл бұрын
When this object first came to my attention in the 6o's there was a lot of guessing and theories, I'm so happy to have lived long enough to hear some definitive statements regarding it. Astounding work by all concerned and a marvel that shows so very clearly the glory that was ancient Greece.
@hermespsychopompos8267
@hermespsychopompos8267 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine how it feels for us, Greeks. It's so damn overwhelming knowing we can never surpass our forefathers. But it's an honor knowing what we set in stone about how the world should be, exists through USA currently etc.
@DrixMaloneDFS
@DrixMaloneDFS 2 жыл бұрын
@@hermespsychopompos8267 Y'all that stupid you can't ever surpass your ancestors nor be equals lmao?? That's sad...
@bookmouse2719
@bookmouse2719 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrixMaloneDFS let us not be rude please.
@shewolfee4247
@shewolfee4247 Жыл бұрын
Isnt it sad that one man can control the global CITIZENS, of all nations?? What's worse is that WEF started in 70s to dumb global CITIZENS, to a point that they want to make a country, that's paid for more people globally, which they are porpusly making that country as 3rd world.... Why the hail would anyone keep true history locked up, and create a narrative as to sell to the CITIZENS?? It's sad how much more could be found and theorized about!! Speaking of theory..why would 1% of world population insist on teaching race theory, and other critical theories making people dumber...instead of allowing more intelligence to learn past tools to use today??? Critical thinking went on vacation and left uncle theory in charge of chaos!!
@hannobaalii_makendalii
@hannobaalii_makendalii Жыл бұрын
Sorry. It is NYLE PHOENIXIAN / Khametic, NOT Greek. Greeks were TECHTARDS.
@patricknoveski6409
@patricknoveski6409 2 жыл бұрын
Just Incredible to think all these people put this device back together after over 2000 years under water. Amazing work !
@weareallanimals
@weareallanimals 2 жыл бұрын
It also makes we wonder, how long ago did they calculate all these celestial movements before they started to build this device. And, how many failed devices before the final one. I wonder what else we haven't found.
@midnightblue3285
@midnightblue3285 2 жыл бұрын
@@weareallanimals I think the remaning techs and knowledges are in the underwater
@mobtek
@mobtek 2 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic in-depth lecture, really amazing stuff. One has to wonder at the level of sophistication of the ancients, what other wonders have been lost to time. They have been greatly underestimated.
@wilma8326
@wilma8326 Жыл бұрын
Not lost in time but deliberately hidden and removed from conscious history with the purpose of feeding us the story that we are a breed of human ignorance. We are supposedly some near ape men, just grown out of the stone age, with limited brain capacity and a need for world leaders and supercomputers to make decisions for us. We, as humans, would view ourselves completely different if we knew our race were here on earth for tens of thousanda of years, with all kinds of sophisticated and advanced societies. That's all in our dna, but wr are not supposed to know that
@bruceprice3583
@bruceprice3583 Жыл бұрын
Most defenitly!!
@stunnaoj3186
@stunnaoj3186 Жыл бұрын
Mom
@d_wigglesworth
@d_wigglesworth Жыл бұрын
The "level of sophistication" of some ancients is remarkable and ranged broadly from technology to ... everything! For example, it appears that the extremely sophisticated Athens lost to (relatively less sophisticated) Sparta as a result of a strong, nascent move to ban slavery. The move to ban slavery inspired resistance by some wealthy Athenians (including Plato's uncle!) who conspired with Spartans to defeat Athen's democracy. I wonder, had Athen's not been betrayed by its own wealthy citizens (sound familiar?!) where would our world be now?
@patrickday4206
@patrickday4206 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the viking swords they found quote "The famed Ulfberht Viking swords were made of metal so pure it baffled archaeologists. It was thought the technology to forge such metal was not invented for another 800 or more years, during the Industrial Revolution. About 170 Ulfberhts have been found, dating from A.D. 800 to 1,000" we should be rethinking the intelligence and time-lines it's pretty easy for things to get lost from a natural disaster plaque or war back then!
@NorwayT
@NorwayT 3 жыл бұрын
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ I've been fascinated by the Antikythera Mechanism for a long time, but coming across this BRILLIANT lecture was really a jaw dropping epiphany!
@aloyisiuspeters8913
@aloyisiuspeters8913 3 жыл бұрын
I remember having read about this mechanism many years ago. I thought at the time that it is an orrery.
@lawrencepevec517
@lawrencepevec517 3 жыл бұрын
@@aloyisiuspeters8913 Me too, what a wonderful bit of reverse engineering. I can’t wait to hear more about the manufacturing / gear cutting machining.
@NorwayT
@NorwayT 3 жыл бұрын
@@lawrencepevec517 19 minutes into this documentary you will perhaps find a clue, that the manufacturing was done very simply by the use of Hellenistic Geometry and a swift and steady hand with a file. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIS0f3iGl7aCn6s
@camogrrl
@camogrrl 3 жыл бұрын
Stanford is really spoiling me with these lectures. Loving saposkys series on human behavioural biology
@djtrabbizramage8759
@djtrabbizramage8759 2 жыл бұрын
This mechanism has the ability to show any thinking person that doesn't already know the Earth is flat , that indeed it is flat .and motionless. And the Sun and the Moon are equal in size and approximate distance from the surface of our flat textured plane that we live on
@davidgrest8508
@davidgrest8508 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos on the internet. Thank you so much for your painstaking research.
@rogerbibeau3583
@rogerbibeau3583 2 жыл бұрын
I stumbled upon this completely by accident. I've been interested in this device for decades since first hearing of it, collecting many documentaries. This is, by far, the most scholarly video I've seen on this subject. With many times feeling like I was riding down a steep hill in an out-of-control stagecoach trying to hold onto my hat, trying to keep up with each explanation. Simply outstanding presentation. Completely dazzling to hear how this mechanism came into being. Not wanting to sound condescending, but I think I'm most impressed, besides the obvious, to see almost 4mil views. Normally, I guess I would have expected only hundreds of views about something this academically oriented. This gives me hope on many levels. Some brilliant comments.Thank You.
@lievenyperman9363
@lievenyperman9363 2 жыл бұрын
I love your "out-of-control stagecoach holding on to your hat" analogy. Made me laugh out loud with the visual it triggered in my head. 😂👌🤠
@rogerbibeau3583
@rogerbibeau3583 2 жыл бұрын
@@lievenyperman9363 Yippee Kyay!! Most gracious thanks.
@c.e.anderson558
@c.e.anderson558 2 жыл бұрын
3-15-2022 5.1m views
@rogerbibeau3583
@rogerbibeau3583 2 жыл бұрын
@@c.e.anderson558 TY. Now even more hopeful.
@Overprotected-rt9mc
@Overprotected-rt9mc Жыл бұрын
Considering the Greek god Janus - 2 heads looking forward and backwards into time simultaneously- I feel this can be connected to j f k - I now want to find the moon phases on his death and also an 80s rock sat believe it or not named jani lane - born John Kennedy Oswald - he died 8-11-11 in room 118 of a comfort in that is now been changed to be called the 818 ascend hotel - here’s the kicker jani means yani or John - there is a Janus island on each pole of the earth and he sang as fluently backwards as he did forward - see JANI LANE NEVAEH (heaven reversed) there is a huge connection to the Greek god Janus and the jabberwocky- in Louis Carroll’s novel through the looking glass - if you think thieves rediculous - ok, but is there anyone that has more insight? Some believe many celebs n stuff are reincarnated from the Egyptians but I’m seeing a much greater Greek connection - any input? Just throwing it out there -
@martinijazz9
@martinijazz9 2 жыл бұрын
14:52 24:20 Metonic cycle 34:50 Metonic calendar dial 42:30 more fragments found 45:10 examining text within Antikythera Mechanism 1:09:00 Gearing for Lunar Anomaly 1:13:50 Where was it made? 1:26:00 When was it made?
@KonceitedKai
@KonceitedKai 2 жыл бұрын
thanks
@Laviolette101
@Laviolette101 2 жыл бұрын
Parts of the video suggest the Antikythera was a work in progress. The device found was an evolved version of fewer, earlier designs as yet unknown. The basis for this was that it was not created overnite by Archimedes (or someone like him) alone but may have been, like Sir Isaac Newton once said, I did this by standing on the shoulders of giants. It may have been the sum of centuries of contribution. It would make the written timeline mesh with this magnificent monolith staring back at us.
@betheryl4818
@betheryl4818 2 жыл бұрын
These discoveries, super exceeds ancient theories, e.g. atlantis , amazing archaeological structures found are evidences supporting authenticy
@soultrick7474
@soultrick7474 2 жыл бұрын
thanks man!
@Sapper-X
@Sapper-X 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible detail and precision of the gear teeth on such ancient technology. An absolutely mind blowing subject to study. Hat’s off to all involved in decoding the Antikythera Mechanism; geniuses. From Australia.
@dealsed7544
@dealsed7544 2 жыл бұрын
They're lying to you, everything came from black people
@b4ds33d
@b4ds33d 2 жыл бұрын
@@dealsed7544 lol good one.
@dealsed7544
@dealsed7544 2 жыл бұрын
@@b4ds33d I’m serious.
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 2 жыл бұрын
The guy building the replica is an ozzy, he’s got a KZbin channel about the process using time period tools and techniques
@yousuckatdrawing
@yousuckatdrawing 2 жыл бұрын
@@dealsed7544 You're seriously delusional.
@patrickblaney1675
@patrickblaney1675 2 жыл бұрын
An extraordinarily well-constructed lecture about a complex device that describes the very complex motion of the moon and visible planets in the sky. Just enough explanation of how gears work for those of us who are not engineers, just enough explanation of the orbits of the moon and planets for those of who are still learning astronomy, and just enough about the history of astronomy to know what was known when in antiquity. Extremely well done. Both very educational and very entertaining.
@tabascoraremaster1
@tabascoraremaster1 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget to mention Sun and it's Orbit AROUND the Earth.
@tech5298
@tech5298 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful comment, just enough … well said sir.
@shanemartin8904
@shanemartin8904 Жыл бұрын
who needs that machine thing. all we need to know is that the sun is over there an then its over there. same for the moon
@Tigs2
@Tigs2 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, just wow! What a great presentation. 205 BC just think about that for a moment for a very long moment! This raises so many questions about what we don’t know about our history. Thank you for uploading.
@michelegosse7116
@michelegosse7116 2 жыл бұрын
about what we think of ourselves and of progress
@Hat6000
@Hat6000 2 жыл бұрын
Always had an interest in this wonderful anomaly, and have watched a few videos regarding it which mostly just recycled the same limited info. This was a wonderful thorough analysis that I really enjoyed and found quite fascinating. Glad there are those like Tony and the others with the passion and dedication to completely analyse and share this with us.
@brunoborma
@brunoborma 3 жыл бұрын
This speech is pure gold. Tks for uploading.
@striderm8389
@striderm8389 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoying + admiring the comments as well…Heady stuff! Thank you to all commenters
@bcnewsvideo
@bcnewsvideo 7 жыл бұрын
Incredible reconstruction, it just goes to show how intelligent ancient civilizations were. Let's not forget to thank all the people involved in this project, they're all geniuses.
@jimtzikis
@jimtzikis 7 жыл бұрын
Well we can discuss for hours about the reasons that today's Greek scientists are not very competent. Instead, I will use the following explanation; Cycle of civilisation.
@tommygunn7745
@tommygunn7745 3 жыл бұрын
@@bozo5632 well,compared to each's time i think
@gregorybyrne2453
@gregorybyrne2453 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone who wants to be a demigod should have one of these. Not only did it predict sun and moon eclipses. It also predicts the Milankovitch cycles. Eccentricity 223,000/111,000 years galactic orbit. Precession/Great Year 25,900/12,460 OBLIQUITY 4 quadrants of galaxies electromagnetic magnetic north in keeping with the galaxies electromagnetic Toroidal fields.
@margasa7
@margasa7 3 жыл бұрын
@Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. well, in the medical science we have invented antibiotics and the cure of many diseases. We can operate someone without opening the body... and a lot more. Bare in mind, that the Greeks did not invent that mechanism, they must have got it from Egypt from the antidelivian world. The previous human race was smarter, stronger and more. beautiful than ours, what can we do?
@Lalakis
@Lalakis 3 жыл бұрын
@@margasa7 There is not the slightest bit of evidence thay Egypt is involved in this mechanism. It is doubtless that the greeks invented the mechanism, and a greek engineer crafted it ( most likely the sudent of archimedes). Poseidonius did have one for example. What can we do ? First of all not spread unfounded unscientific bs.
@kingpetra6886
@kingpetra6886 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. My physics teacher in high school said repeatedly over the year, "The ancients were not dumb." How could they build something like that when they couldn't build the machine Babbage wanted to build?
@DachampsterStudios
@DachampsterStudios Жыл бұрын
with such a complex society, there must have been a need to be able to not only tell time, but predict lunar cycles, tides, and other things that would affect trade. people were constantly sailing to trade goods, so a device like this could have been very helpful
@kingpetra6886
@kingpetra6886 Жыл бұрын
@@DachampsterStudios I had heard about this device many years ago. But this is the first time I have head a comprehensive explanation about what it did and how it did it. I don't know if it would help with longitude.
@EpsilonKnight2
@EpsilonKnight2 Жыл бұрын
Babbage apparently was difficult to work with. Then on top of that you have to consider how prevalent our intricate technology is today compared to how many people could actually build a modern computer or even explain how every component works, not many can yet many can still learn. The way that Babbage had proposed his differential analytical engine is also similar to somebody today proposing to build a computer built on different principals to conventional methods not fully explored yet. At least that's how I perceive that situation. The ancient people's command over mathematics was definitely much more advanced than most give them credit for though.
@mutualbeard
@mutualbeard 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! As a child in the late sixties/early seventies I avidly consumed every book I could find on underwater archaeology. The account of the finding of the Antikythera wreck with all it's treasures and it's lumps of corroded and encrusted brass cogs was spellbinding. It seems that the brass cogs are the greatest treasure. To listen to this smart man, Dr Tony Freeth, explain what he and others have learnt is a real pleasure.
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@sis-nu3226 2 жыл бұрын
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@sis-nu3226 2 жыл бұрын
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@sis-nu3226 2 жыл бұрын
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@prisonplanetearthcomplyordie
@prisonplanetearthcomplyordie 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot on Antikythera Mechanism but this video by far has shown the Ultimate amount information on the subject
@johnnafunkhouser5999
@johnnafunkhouser5999 3 жыл бұрын
I was glued to this lecture. Very challenging, but super enjoyable. Great lecture.
@tylerhazlett2704
@tylerhazlett2704 2 жыл бұрын
If more college lectures were like this, more people would be in there and graduate, even make it through a class. And I’m 26. This is refreshing. He gets it how to keep an audience.
@glenholmgren1218
@glenholmgren1218 2 жыл бұрын
Your Openmindedness, along with your Depth of Research, accuracy of perception and skilled interpretation / presentation are a JOY to experience! THANKS
@LoesungFeuer5
@LoesungFeuer5 Жыл бұрын
Years in my KZbin recommendation; and now i finally watched it! Super intetesting! :)
@modernarchive7502
@modernarchive7502 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating topic and masterful delivery. When the speaker snuck in a dryly humorous remark, the audience laughed; one loud guffawer must have been a great encouragement. I’ll never be able to generate the thing’s name in speech or writing, but for the investment of a little bit of well-enjoyed time, I know much of what it can do. I look forward to catching another one of Professor Freeth’s talks. (I won’t forget his name. It rhymes with teeth, which the ankle-pankly has in profusion.)
@randysnowberger6501
@randysnowberger6501 2 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome presentation. Thanks to all of the scientists who worked on this project. Just shows how far advanced the civilizations from the past were.
@NoMaYT_
@NoMaYT_ 2 жыл бұрын
Like I said 20 years ago, it's clear to see humans are devolving again. They couldn't even build a pyramid today as perfect as 200.000 years ago.... Dr. Freeth is a Master in many things yet talks like he has a learning disability, if you talk like that in my country in primary school you need to redo your year all over. He takes pauses every couple of words, it's so bad, maybe that's how British people talk but it shows they are slow, he constantly needs to grab the words he wants to use, we see this normally when people have a huge language barrier or learning disability. He said "uhm" over 5000 times in one hour and half. We fail class in oral exam if we say "uhm" 1 time.
@DaveDEF82
@DaveDEF82 2 жыл бұрын
@@NoMaYT_ Clearly you neither have basic knowledge of linguistics nor psychology otherwise you would have a better understanding of the mechanisms at play here...
@MrVvulf
@MrVvulf 2 жыл бұрын
Humbling, isn't it? To know that some person, 2000 years ago, created a device that only a miniscule fraction of our CURRENT population could emulate. For me, it reiterates the importance of teaching science and analytical thought in schools. Civilizations always fall. Ours will one day too. But preserving knowledge past those hard times is the best way to both forestall that inevitability, and assuage the impact it will have on future generations.
@ambersmith6517
@ambersmith6517 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaveDEF82 true that
@sltomsik
@sltomsik 2 жыл бұрын
Wish to know: Metallurgy - what alloy composition did they use? Crystallography - what did we know about their forging, and hardening methods based the crystal lattice of the gear alloys? Isotope & spectral - Where were the metals mined ? From Africa, Egypt, Cyprus? How old was it? Sorry if I missed these in the lecture, I'm very distractible.
@mikeMrBear
@mikeMrBear 2 жыл бұрын
If you cant sleep I highly recommend this monotone lecture.. it worked wonders on my insomnia
@johnkeyser4399
@johnkeyser4399 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, grately appreciate the layman's term delivery in the fine-tooth piece by piece description of the construction. I appreciate the time it took and all the people whom contributed. Amen, most of all..... To the person ( still a mystery) who actually invented it. Your contribution to mankind is immeasurable.
@jillflores3076
@jillflores3076 Жыл бұрын
humankind
@andrewsheehy2441
@andrewsheehy2441 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent. If the origination date is correct this suggests that it was already 100+ years old when it was sunk. Thus, it seems likely that there would have been others made, perhaps even more advanced models. Brilliant research though! What an inspiration!
@wisconsinfarmer4742
@wisconsinfarmer4742 2 жыл бұрын
That is a good thought. Hats off to the metallurgists of the time.
@User0000000000000004
@User0000000000000004 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a workshop somewhere pumping these things out every few days. All the gears being cut from jigs and whatnot. If they could build this, they could easily have built tens or hundreds of them.
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 2 жыл бұрын
@@User0000000000000004 this isn't a mass produced device
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 2 жыл бұрын
If it was thousands of years old the knowledge could have been lost and it might have been the only one
@Sithlordxxxx
@Sithlordxxxx Жыл бұрын
Did I understood correctly, that the dial had cca 230 months? In that case, isn't it correct that the dial was usable for only 12 years before it became inaccurate?
@BM-jy6cb
@BM-jy6cb Жыл бұрын
A fascinating talk. A shame there wasn't time for more questions at the end. The engineering techniques would be fascinating to learn. I hope in the future the doctoral student can give an equally fascinating talk.
@akinieminen279
@akinieminen279 2 ай бұрын
One of the most fascinating lectures about the Antikythera mechanism.
@franl155
@franl155 2 жыл бұрын
What gets me is that we'd know nothing about the Antikythera Mechanism had the ship carrying it not sunk [or had some sponge-divers not decided to try their luck in that location]. The Mechanism is insanely complex - conceived, planned and executed by some true genius. And it all had to be precision-made by hand, hand cut teeth, hand-cut spindles and hands. My mind is thoroughly boggled.
@philiprock131
@philiprock131 2 жыл бұрын
I would not be inclined to assume that the teeth were hand cut if only because, given the apparent level of skill and ability of that time, surely it is very possible that a machine method of cutting teeth may have already been produced with no extra or additional skills to those demonstrated already by the Antikythera machine. Just my initial thought. I think Dr Tony Freeth presented and explained the whole subject incredibly well.
@franl155
@franl155 2 жыл бұрын
@@philiprock131 - machine-cut teeth raises the tech level by another mile or so! they'd need to design the machine to cut the teeth - and each cog would have needed its own template for the different numbers of teeth. probably the same machine could do it, but parts would need to be changed for each new cog, with the machine reset each time ...
@pennyoflaherty1345
@pennyoflaherty1345 2 жыл бұрын
So, what was Archimedes Principal? !! Get this finished in time to start the Olympics before the Due date of arrival 😁
@sovereign7312
@sovereign7312 2 жыл бұрын
They were far more advanced, after armageddon the "elites" withheld all knowledge. Tartarian mudfloods and liquefaction event, sun plasma discharges, the phonecians ie Irish (druids) and moors then held power. That mechanism is a basic piece of their machinery. They use frequency technologies and ether energy.
@franl155
@franl155 2 жыл бұрын
@@sovereign7312 - your sources?
@stevem815
@stevem815 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the few times I've actually been shocked by a video with 'shocking' in the title.
@kozmicre982
@kozmicre982 3 жыл бұрын
@Steve M It shocked me also both realizing this discovery and the title came in shocking me with hindsight. ROFL 20/20 🤣
@nmvhr
@nmvhr 3 жыл бұрын
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@janobara6337
@janobara6337 3 жыл бұрын
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@nmvhr
@nmvhr 2 жыл бұрын
@@janobara6337 LMFAO YES
@aliray1165
@aliray1165 2 жыл бұрын
Look up electrocution, now that’s shocking
@Philip8825
@Philip8825 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible work, so critical for the ongoing mystery of human origins. Beautifully done…
@THOMASZNEK
@THOMASZNEK 2 жыл бұрын
The questions this device poses are fantastic. The study gone into this device poses are just awesome.
@zhanc8631
@zhanc8631 3 жыл бұрын
I was mesmerised by this lecture. Simply brilliant. I was glued to my seat....how wonderful our researchers are...😀
@zenolachance1181
@zenolachance1181 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent lecture, I listened in bed one night and had to miss work the next day but it was well worth it!
@johntroxwell8881
@johntroxwell8881 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they are so wonderful and I was amazed.a lot of effort have been put in this indeed.😄.I would love to learn more you know.
@JohnSmith-gy4qj
@JohnSmith-gy4qj 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for posting, I really enjoyed this. I as a fitter and turner which teaches you to make just about anything except its size.. This raises some interesting questions. So did they have lathes and mills and a compound dividing head like we do today. What type of bronze or brass was used? Were the gears forged and then machined for added strength and no stress points? What about the clearances used and the tolerances used and lubrication. So much about people being primitive when we go back in time. Whoever espouses that notion needs to confess they were wrong. What measuring instruments did they use, did they use vernier scales for finer measurements or something like a shadow graph to magnify the error. Could we make something this like this today? What method was used to make the letters. We need more history like this to be taught.
@aleksandriimadh9034
@aleksandriimadh9034 2 жыл бұрын
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@victorialynn961
@victorialynn961 2 жыл бұрын
This has fascinated me for years, thank you for sharing all of this knowledge
@user-ds6uc2hx3f
@user-ds6uc2hx3f 2 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing what the man/women, are actually capable of when we put our minds to task, the period in which this was made, is absolutely mind blowing!
@victorialynn961
@victorialynn961 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ds6uc2hx3f indeed
@stevem1750
@stevem1750 2 жыл бұрын
Most enjoyable speaker. Made something technical sound interesting and humorous, but still gave an abundance of information.
@DalsPhotography
@DalsPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful conference, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and discoveries!
@DrWhom
@DrWhom 6 жыл бұрын
We talk of the Dark Ages and the Renaissance, but ancient accomplishments like these remind us that these terms really do mean what they say. By the 17th century AD we'd only clawed our way back to where the Greeks were 2nd Century BC!
@jriceblue
@jriceblue 4 жыл бұрын
I have often thought this, not only about the Greeks and Romans, but so too about the Egyptians, Chinese, Arabs, and Indians. They knew *so much*.
@EvitoCruor
@EvitoCruor 3 жыл бұрын
The dark ages isn't even close to a rock bottom. The barbarians who laid the last blow against an already internally imploding society wanted to be more like them. Todays cultists want to destroy all we have.
@zarni000
@zarni000 3 жыл бұрын
nonsense. the "greeks" were constantly at war one city against the other. they owned slaves - on average 5 slaves per household. Aristotle had 5 himself. also this "mechanism" is just assumed to be greek. we have no evidence to substantiate that.
@zarni000
@zarni000 3 жыл бұрын
@@ruralcoder it was exactly on topic but you did not get it did you? secondly on the nonsequitur - even if i were a turk why would i be bitter? if i were a minoan I'd be bitter maybe.
@george-stathopoulos
@george-stathopoulos 3 жыл бұрын
@@zarni000 really?
@SRHisnum1
@SRHisnum1 Жыл бұрын
stumbled on this and couldn't stop watching it. My goodness the work that went into making this thing, let alone understanding it then and NOW!!! Brilliant work. I hope the other men or people who helped in all ways are smiling so big from Heaven as each person watches this.
@joelguerin-simard3415
@joelguerin-simard3415 2 жыл бұрын
I listened to this lecture twice today, truly fascinating
@leeaw1638
@leeaw1638 2 жыл бұрын
---Best video I have yet to see on this fascinating artifact- Brilliant as it is thank you for this as it does true justice to the subject!.
@fredfungalspore
@fredfungalspore 2 жыл бұрын
Once again after watching this gentleman lecture Much of our future can be found in our past if we could only join all the dots and thanks to the likes of this man we get one step closer Facinating
@rg6569
@rg6569 Жыл бұрын
You mean after we weed our way through the misdirection and lies fed to us by the current day narrative?
@pamelaruff4060
@pamelaruff4060 2 жыл бұрын
absolutely incredible how was this ever thought up by the Greeks and then so beautifully. it is so incredibly accurate. Thank for your presentation.
@michelegosse7116
@michelegosse7116 2 жыл бұрын
it surely was based on knowledge coming down from older civilisations, just like medicine for ex
@Tmac_305
@Tmac_305 Жыл бұрын
Definitely wasn't the Greeks
@esecallum
@esecallum Жыл бұрын
Are they Blac?
@annalouux8553
@annalouux8553 Жыл бұрын
@@Tmac_305 there's greek written on it it was shown in the video
@Sinshine151
@Sinshine151 Жыл бұрын
Love listening to things like this as I fall asleep, I wake up and have so much to look up!
@devinskelton6457
@devinskelton6457 2 жыл бұрын
this is honestly the best explanation and demonstration by far. well done, and thank you
@pumpupthevolume4775
@pumpupthevolume4775 2 жыл бұрын
What's utterly amazing is that so complicated and accurate a device could be created based on the geocentric idea of celestial body movement.
@flatearthterrafirma8571
@flatearthterrafirma8571 2 жыл бұрын
Great presentation. However the heliocentric explanations are absurd since those false theories hadn't been conjured up for another 1400 years after the device was constructed.
@Cornfed_MF
@Cornfed_MF 2 жыл бұрын
@@flatearthterrafirma8571 I have to admit, the presenter said it best himself; "Keep It Simple Stupid", and the system we follow today is a far more complicated model of the same machine we just watched get deciphered from over a thousand years ago.
@contraptions1664
@contraptions1664 Жыл бұрын
Geocentric is a bad idea for those that refuse to believe in God. That is why it is not popular. People think they are God.
@susanmcdonald9088
@susanmcdonald9088 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Excellent lecture! Fascinating history! Unbelievable ancient science.
@KC-vk6mg
@KC-vk6mg 2 жыл бұрын
11:35 tools for navigation are often done by astrological measurements so it's really one in the same not two different assumptions. Very interesting lecture I enjoyed it!
@ignoritos
@ignoritos 8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Overwhelming.
@crazya3466
@crazya3466 2 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic lecture on this mechanism, his explanation and progress with other researchers really help us understand it's reality in it's actual time of creation. Nice work 🖒.. cA
@HansDunkelberg1
@HansDunkelberg1 2 жыл бұрын
Just leave away the apostrophes of those "it's"s, and your comment is perfect. So far, it isn't clear if you really mean the first one.
@douglas7000
@douglas7000 2 жыл бұрын
Something I'd like to know is an estimate of how long it took to make this. The design, based on previous work, might only take a few man weeks but the assembly, with the tools available at the time..? Knowing the effort put into it would be one guide to the price, which in turn would aid in answering who or what it might have been for.
@zpinch9117
@zpinch9117 9 ай бұрын
Fascinating ! A wonderfully eloquent presentation. Thank you Tony the facts and background work gone into yours and your predecessor's research are far more compelling than i could have imagined.
@alegnalavieenrose8120
@alegnalavieenrose8120 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating and also very shocking that we’ve gone back in time for eons in advancement. Like knowledge got lost somehow. I can spend days philosophizing about that. I greatly enjoyed this presentation. I’ve been fascinated with this object ever since I first learned about it on “Mysterious things”.
@Dinosaur761
@Dinosaur761 2 жыл бұрын
What Christianity does to a mf continent
@alegnalavieenrose8120
@alegnalavieenrose8120 2 жыл бұрын
@Lucious De Luca okay; just got chills. Going to google “yugas” now. Absolutely fascinating.
@diaryofadeadtattooist
@diaryofadeadtattooist 2 жыл бұрын
Martin Kenny. Flat Earth modeller mentions yugas 👍 he did a vid with odd TV. It's on bitchute. Also Eric dubay on bitchute. Flat Earth president. Many vids and evidence
@herbert5491
@herbert5491 2 жыл бұрын
@Lucious De Luca Referring to the Earth's wobbling cycle?
@infinitecrux6859
@infinitecrux6859 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that in the current age many would say that our enlightenment has declined, yet our knowledge and technology has excelled.
@Ranxerox1911A1
@Ranxerox1911A1 2 жыл бұрын
As a gunsmith and machinist I’m amazed by the precision fabrication skills and tools clearly required to create this machine. I suggest an astronomer collaborating with a jeweler of sorts made this as a team. Indeed, I’d further suggest that a metallurgist and a chemist may have been on the team as well, since it appears that the machine’s alloys may be unique, and that some pretty fancy lubricants were needed to ensure smooth functioning.
@stuartpatterson1617
@stuartpatterson1617 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed it certainly seems to have had some interesting lubrication technics. Probably a few patients hiding in there!
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a KZbin channel all about the process of making the replica using legit time period tools and techniques, but nobody wanted to stump up the money for all that, they’d rather drop billions of dollars of bombs on goat farmers
@asage5801
@asage5801 2 жыл бұрын
Honest question: Since you have these skills, why would not someone have them over 2000 years ago?
@bunzeebear2973
@bunzeebear2973 2 жыл бұрын
@@asage5801 Logical answer would be it is the "Bronze Age" so "steel" files did not exist yet. Cutting the gear teeth would have been extremely difficult (EVEN "WITH" A STEEL FILE) all done by hand. I propose that even TODAY, it would have been difficult to conceive such a device.
@asage5801
@asage5801 2 жыл бұрын
@@bunzeebear2973 we know that the Greeks took many secrets from the Egyptian priests. Clearly the Egyptians knew how to cut “hard” things and kept that a secret. We also know that Greeks studied with the Egyptians. I’m thinking that they used a reverse pantograph to make the precision cuts with a vey hard gem or stone at the working edge. They also may have heated the metal a little in order to soften it slightly.
@phillipwareham
@phillipwareham Жыл бұрын
Wow. I've never before watched a powerpoint presentation that looks like someone has put decades into it. On the content, it's amazing to contemplate the questions raised by this device.
@brianr8581
@brianr8581 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic! Thank you for putting this amazing work up!
@MrDaiseymay
@MrDaiseymay 2 жыл бұрын
What a fascinating speech, by a excellent and lucid informant, I could listen for hours.
@chipevans8239
@chipevans8239 2 жыл бұрын
How about a Joe Biden speech?
@danielholman7225
@danielholman7225 2 жыл бұрын
I’d heard of this atomic calendar a few years ago but this video really got into the fine details. I’am amazed is all I can say. Good work, guys.
@ashleyleach8148
@ashleyleach8148 2 жыл бұрын
a as AWWW
@taraedwards3898
@taraedwards3898 Жыл бұрын
What
@janellehoney-badger6525
@janellehoney-badger6525 Жыл бұрын
It’s absolutely amazing they even picked it up?! Such creative minds. It proves, to me, why education, creativity & the freedom to do so, is so important for the western world. I’d love to see a remake of it, up close
@sadwingsraging3044
@sadwingsraging3044 Жыл бұрын
With a lunar cycle so detailed it seems childs play to include a tide predictor. A merchant ship captain/Owner would find something able to predict the tides, the amount of light the moon would give at night, reminders about major games and festivals. A man could get wealthy scheduling a ship/ships with such information.🧐 Throw on a "close enough" annual known weather cycle predictor and it could give reminder/warning that could save a ship. _This month starts rainy season, this month starts olive harvest, this month starts windy season._ Just tossing around ideas. Fascinating subject and great to see how far the understanding has grown about that object and what it reveals about ancient society and their understanding.
@ccchhhrrriiisss100
@ccchhhrrriiisss100 6 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful presentation!
@antikokalis
@antikokalis 3 жыл бұрын
That was almost ruined by an asshole that kept coughing. Stay home, you bastard. Don't ruin it for everybody else
@despicableone4495
@despicableone4495 2 жыл бұрын
@@antikokalis Sick people have to learn too Anastasios
@antikokalis
@antikokalis 2 жыл бұрын
@@despicableone4495 lol
@antikokalis
@antikokalis 2 жыл бұрын
@Cedar_Of_Lebanon ;)))
@antikokalis
@antikokalis 2 жыл бұрын
@@annamichos3752 Covid? I mean the annoying sound he makes...
@persebra
@persebra 3 жыл бұрын
I feel so intelligent after watching the whole thing, ha! good job, everybody then and now!
@camogrrl
@camogrrl 3 жыл бұрын
I eat these for breakfast before going to psychology lectures at uni.
@KingNoTail
@KingNoTail 2 жыл бұрын
@@camogrrl Your step father must be proud.
@MrDoitfrombehind
@MrDoitfrombehind 2 жыл бұрын
@@KingNoTail haha gotem!
@JadeDragon407
@JadeDragon407 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr Freeth and Stanford for hosting this (even though it was 6 yrs ago now). It's really neat to learn more about this device. Aside the math and science that went into getting the mechanics accurate, it was given a certain artful style that one can't help but appreciate. I would definitely call it a sky (and sports) computer. So much went into figuring how to make this, much less the actual mfgring of it, so you have to think this wasn't the only one, or at least... not the only one intended to be made. It would be a wonderful insight if other versions/duplicates could be discovered. Commercially available working models would be a great revival of them, if made to similar quality specs.
@heathermichelle2703
@heathermichelle2703 Жыл бұрын
Do you mean like the Mayan calendar?
@JadeDragon407
@JadeDragon407 Жыл бұрын
@@heathermichelle2703 Potentially; or any means of ensuring the astronomical math is accurate
@gypsy2
@gypsy2 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You, Dr. Tony Freeth. I would love to know how this mechanism was powered. Pendulum or 'Bagdad' battery. I realize that we only have fragments, but I wonder if anyone out there is studying this aspect ???
@jonnycarroll6676
@jonnycarroll6676 2 жыл бұрын
I look forward to the accomplishment of all these very impressive thieries with historical evidence. Bravo to the scientific mind's and the countless inquisitive skilled people responsible for this true timeless genius.
@RandomnessTube.
@RandomnessTube. 2 жыл бұрын
I have no education but I wish I was taught by this guy mind-blowing that thing is just wow.
@liammurphy2725
@liammurphy2725 2 жыл бұрын
You have educated yourself to the point where this subject has something to say to you. So... well done you and well done to all the researchers who have expended so much of their careers on determining so much about this fascinating object. A true wonder of human ingenuity.
@MB-nc9rq
@MB-nc9rq Жыл бұрын
As we hear one person's hourly presentation, let's acknowledge that these findinds reflect the work of ancient inventors, and contemporary researchers, over thousands of years.
@TheCBC1984
@TheCBC1984 Жыл бұрын
what a bunch of wind-bags. modern science is interested only in appeasing investors. education is indoctrination.
@robrose4971
@robrose4971 Жыл бұрын
I do. Acknowledger, right here, hello!
@youwish4555
@youwish4555 Жыл бұрын
Acknowledging, right here and now!!!
@MB-nc9rq
@MB-nc9rq Жыл бұрын
Thank you all, you are wonderful xxx
@SuperNewf1
@SuperNewf1 2 жыл бұрын
So glad I found this. Excellent work. Thank you.
@Grantos1ea
@Grantos1ea 2 жыл бұрын
Astounding, simply astounding! The dogged tanacity of the researchers from many disceplines is amazing.
@shinyelectrode417
@shinyelectrode417 2 жыл бұрын
It is. Unfortunately they would have scoffed at something like this unless they could touch it. Which is understandable. I dont know why we underestimate the intelligence of our ancestors. The great pyramids in Egypt should be enough concrete proof to take the possible "advanced" technology our ancestors probably had. What is even more fascinating is water erosion was recently discovered around the giant sphinx, obviously indicating these structures are more than likely MUCH older than we believe. If you believe our ancestors were probably just as advanced as us, you are a conspiracy theorist
@HansDunkelberg1
@HansDunkelberg1 2 жыл бұрын
​@@shinyelectrode417 It seems the Egyptian pyramids consist of concrete. Concrete is known to have been used by the Romans, in the 1st century A.D. It means a certain surprise regarding the ancient level of materials sciences, but altogether lets appear the pyramids as less astounding than they used to be, given that it implies much less advanced lifting technologies. Together with the Antikythera Mechanism, it shoves the antiquity quite a bit closer to our days.
@Ratclan
@Ratclan 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing lecture. Words cannot describe the wonder it creates in the mind.
@knuckle12356
@knuckle12356 Жыл бұрын
What about using electron microscopy to build an image? Is that a thing that could be applied here? What types of information are still hidden due to corrosion/sea growth? Like is there still more info to be taken from the gears (+ other bits,) within the discovered lump? Super cool to have this whole lecture available.
@ElinT13
@ElinT13 2 жыл бұрын
What a great lecture about a stunning machine! Yeah, the greeks were very fond of their mechanical devices.
@bronzesnake7004
@bronzesnake7004 2 жыл бұрын
You would think a complex device like this couldn't be a one off, and I wonder why more haven't been found, or at least other, earlier versions as complex machines are normally arrived at through gradual, transnasional progress. This is just as frustrating as the neo Darwinian proposition, and the complete lack of "in between" transitions leading to the final product! Fascinating! Jack ~'()'~ Canada
@theburgerbrains
@theburgerbrains 7 жыл бұрын
"You don't just make progress in science by getting everything right. You make progress also by getting things wrong in an interesting way." I love that.
@mikedench1110
@mikedench1110 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, you learn more from your mistakes than you ever do by confirming what you already know to be true
@stephentaylor4144
@stephentaylor4144 4 жыл бұрын
Your Wrong. Das is incorrect
@stephentaylor4144
@stephentaylor4144 4 жыл бұрын
But I am correct
@nickjohns1192
@nickjohns1192 3 жыл бұрын
I worked with a great electrician when learning my trade. He once said to me I can teach u sumthing. You can get it right 1000 times n learn nothing but get it wrong once and I will remember it and learn more. Always stuck with me
@pereraddison932
@pereraddison932 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickjohns1192 ... in this "whirld" the be all, and the end all, of everything, is ALCHEMICAL ALIGNMENT, determined, directed, deseminated, and governed, is ultimately captured, kept, and bound up with POWER-!!! The knowledge of which, lies with the secret societies of ancient mystery schools...
@TheGuitologist
@TheGuitologist 2 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely fascinating. Thanks to the persistence and techniques of these brilliant scientists for pursuing this wonder of the ancient world! Their brilliance is only rivaled by the ancients themselves.
@GOLDMANWALKiNG
@GOLDMANWALKiNG 2 жыл бұрын
I HAVE A DEMON AND I TALK TO IT EVERY kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqPVemmVgN-dq68
@GOLDMANWALKiNG
@GOLDMANWALKiNG 2 жыл бұрын
@Horrid Henry what is?
@GOLDMANWALKiNG
@GOLDMANWALKiNG 2 жыл бұрын
@Horrid Henry even this kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6nKlGttdpWVnqc
@GOLDMANWALKiNG
@GOLDMANWALKiNG 2 жыл бұрын
@Horrid Henry every time I record audio when I rewind it there is a Demon speaking to me
@Abubakar-zf2tr
@Abubakar-zf2tr 2 жыл бұрын
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@New_Zealand_Music
@New_Zealand_Music 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely stunning. Thank you. We have so much to learn. It's exciting!
@asotpan
@asotpan 3 жыл бұрын
Unless one works with metal and the machining of it its hard to describe to the layman of its difficulties. The machined tolerances of the metal components indicates that some very accurate lathe must have been used to machine the nested tubes surrounding the central shift. The mere fact of the maker(s) producing accurately thicknessed bronze sheet to form the gears is another question worth asking.
@mcgunn74
@mcgunn74 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they're cast not milled. ?
@kennethhamilton2499
@kennethhamilton2499 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps Atomic Emission Spectrometry (AES), Inductive Coupled Pasma (ICP) or Atomic Absorption Spectroscopy (AAS) testing can tell not only the source for the copper and tin mines based on it's molecular fingerprint,, but also help date and locate the epicenter of that technology based on the percentage of the alloy composition.......like they have done with silver/gold and brass hollow ware from 17th and 18th cent. Europe??
@uncannyvalley2350
@uncannyvalley2350 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennethhamilton2499 ever considered the Phoenicians? They traded in copper and used astronomy to navigate the Mediterranean, they also gave us the Bible, which is an astrological allegory for the age of Pisces, something that only the mechanism was capable of divining
@MadMax-oy4um
@MadMax-oy4um 2 жыл бұрын
Too accurate for a cast
@uncannyvalley2350
@uncannyvalley2350 2 жыл бұрын
@Aurora Peace don't even get me started, omg. The Adena in Ohio worshipped the Hand of Orion, that's the literal name of Betlegeuse. It's also where we get the Persian Hamza, and it featured on Phoenician tombs in Carthage. They also used the same Metonic Lunar Solar calendar, and erected a Shiva Lingam every 20 years, to commemorate a King's rule, just like they did in Egypt, same solar observatory Pyramids, and Stonehenges/ Shiva Lingam same Feathered Serpent Priest Kings (Native American feathered Crown, being the Phoenix). Canaan is Phoenician for Serpent Kings, and the Aztecs spoke how the Serpent King was supposed to rule by outsmarting his subjects. The old Phoenician Serpent Priests were even depicted as serpents in little clay statuettes offered at the Temple of Obelisks in Byblos, from which the Bible takes it's name. There's even a star in Orion called Rigel, also known as Aurora, the Dawnbringer, Phoenicians even transmutes to the Scions/Sons of the Phoenix, or Sons of light, exactly how the authors of the Dead Sea Scrolls identify themselves, exactly what the name Freemason means, (House of light) a reference to Isis worship. Tyre/Jerusalem was also a center of Masonry, just like Thebes, then there are the twin cities of Heliopolis, one in Lebanon (israel) and one in Egypt, it was the Heliopolis that the Phoenix returned from India, anointing itself in frankincense and myrrh before stepping onto the Holy Grail, Philosopher's Stone to self immolate and be reborn by the baptism of fire. It represents a metonic cycle of 3 216 year periods, when Venus rose un the Spring with Orion, representing Lucifer, the Light Bringer, where they would add 3 days to the calendar to coincide their holy days with the zodiac. The Antithykera mechanism was also based on the Metonic cycle, and was the basis for Revelations, marking the transition of the age of Pisces into the age of Aquarius from 2001 to 2021. The mechanism was even found off Potamos island, aka Patmos, the island where St John (Code for Osiris) wrote Revelations. The New testament reads just like you would the Antithykera mechanism, anthropomorphizing Jesus as the Sun and Moon, Orion, and Serpentis, the 13th sunsign of the Babylonian zodiac associated with Hermes, Thoth, Enoch, etc. The feathered Serpent, the Phoenix, the American Eagle are all the same thing, a symbol of resurrection, based on the cycle of the Sun and Moon. I've done a whole video on it on my channel if you're interested
@7curiogeo
@7curiogeo 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible work done to deal with the mystery of the device. It is amazing that such an ancient culture came up with this device. At the same time when you look at some of the scientist and what they came up with. One of the crimes of history, is so much is lost due to the backwards steps of destroyed cultures and the "dark" ages in between these golden ages spread over wide areas.
@midnightblue3285
@midnightblue3285 2 жыл бұрын
It is stared with the constantine the rising of chrisianty is couse the pagan ancient hellenic hyperborian greek and roman empire fall
@tech5298
@tech5298 Жыл бұрын
Look at the US today. See how quickly an advanced nation state is falling into despair. It happens to the best.
@cyn7227
@cyn7227 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant fascinating lecture. I had no idea so much new research had been done on this object. The workmanship as well as the ideas behind it are just stunning. It does raise the interesting question why didn't the industrial (as the Greeks knew about steam power) and technological revolutions that has come about since the 17th C happen sooner.
@maelinjoli
@maelinjoli 2 жыл бұрын
I think a possible answer to that would be that after Jesus the best minds we're busy with theology and thus retarded scientific advancement for centuries
@jordiros5723
@jordiros5723 Жыл бұрын
@@maelinjoli Or maybe they understood that spiritual "technology" is far more important than material technology -- eternity is a very long time. Maybe material science has "retarded" our spiritual progress. Certainly looks that way judging by contemporary phenomena, wouldn't you say?
@maelinjoli
@maelinjoli Жыл бұрын
@@jordiros5723 interesting. yes I would tend to agree
@Endicorp1
@Endicorp1 2 жыл бұрын
Totally fascinating study. Hipparchus, the ancient astronomer from Rhodes was also thought to have had a hand in creating the Antikythera mechanism. The latest study allegedly places the date at 205 BC, just seven years after the death of Archimedes. Dr Freeth and his team pinpointed the origin of the mechanism, possibly to Archimedes himself, although, as suggested his device may well have been a collaboration between Apollonius and Archimedes, who knew each other or other scientific minds and skilled metal craftsmen, now lost to history, using elaborate tools, similar to jewellers for such intricate work. The device may have been a modification or earlier devices, as suggested, as a way of monitoring or predicting the movement of the heavens. More information following further studies will likely emerge. Such a tragedy that the Alexandria library, Egypt was destroyed and information forever lost. Arguments will persist, but hats off to the investigative scientists that are following the clues, evidence and inscriptions left behind by the scientific minds that were originally were involved in creating this device.
@richardsegura8117
@richardsegura8117 2 жыл бұрын
Best talk on the Antikythera mechanism I’ve heard.....bravo!
@newsingle8502
@newsingle8502 2 жыл бұрын
Concur
@uncannyvalley2350
@uncannyvalley2350 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, but did he tell you it was used to write the New Testament? Or that it was made by the Phoenicians/ Carthaginians, not the Greeks
@henryshannon6478
@henryshannon6478 3 жыл бұрын
Going on the record concerning the month names and the local games for Dodona and Rhodes it looks like the mechanism is a commission job prepared in Rhodes for a client in Epirus. The region had been important politically during the time of Pyrrhus (died 272 BC) and could still have rich and influential rulers later on.
@adamthomas8069
@adamthomas8069 3 жыл бұрын
Commissioned by WHO and HOW was it designed? It was a GIANT scientific work.
@SoldatDuChristChannel
@SoldatDuChristChannel 2 жыл бұрын
ITS THE AAAAAALIENS! MY GOD WE ARE ALL DOOOMED!!
@markrossi506
@markrossi506 2 жыл бұрын
I would have asked about the tools necessary for the fine detailed work. Making gear teeth mesh that way is incredibly difficult with hand tools. Thanks so much for your research!
@DW85723
@DW85723 2 жыл бұрын
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@djgade6766
@djgade6766 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding presentation, bookmarked for many future viewings
@Rossco603
@Rossco603 2 жыл бұрын
One man may of build this, but only from the knowledge of many decades of research. This is truly the most amazing discovery of all antiquity in my opinion. It tells me that the ancients weren't as clueless as one might think. They actually, were much better with a lot of things then we are today, like glass working. Its a shame the library of Alexandrea burnt down. Imagine the discoveries and literature it would of held about the Greeks, and their boundless knowledge.
@patstokes7040
@patstokes7040 2 жыл бұрын
The latest thought about the Alexander Library is that it held many unimportant works. and that the very important works of science and philosophy where in other libraries all threw the ancient world. Most works that were written on papyrus literally crumbled away under the weight of other papyrus scrolls. The ancient world had useless and pointless writers just as we have today. The rulers of Alexandrea were known for excepting any bodies writing so they could boost they had more books. Traders from all over the known world would bring scrolls to Alexandrea because they knew they could make some money. Important works were copies and recopies and the rest was of no value.
@codyparrish3383
@codyparrish3383 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the ancients found it somewhere and didn't know what it was either.
@odgreenshq6221
@odgreenshq6221 2 жыл бұрын
theirs a documentary out there that the Vatican actually has most the stuff from the library as it was moved out of Egypt and into the roman area by Ptolemy .
@itsdaniok8722
@itsdaniok8722 2 жыл бұрын
Molokai ion k
@SteenGroentved
@SteenGroentved 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought..This device is definitely to sophisticated to be a one shot. It more gives an indication of just much we have underestimated our ancestors.
@MyMojo13
@MyMojo13 6 жыл бұрын
Astrolabe - Astrology - Alarm clock - doorbell - plumbing - cement - etc etc etc - The Greek mathematician, philosopher and inventor Archimedes was born around 280 to 290 B.C. in Syracuse, at the time an independent city-state in Sicily. He studied in Egypt with the successors of the Greek mathematician Euclid, designed tools and weapon systems, but preferred pure mathematics. Archimedes gave the world “Eureka!” -- Greek for “I have found it!” and a catch-phrase for scientists. Water Screw - Also called the Archimedes screw or Archimedes snail, the water screw is a device to lift water for irrigation. It was based on a helix, which revolved inside a tube and carried water up on the helical blades. A handle at the high end of the screw was turned to draw up water from the lower to a higher level. Oxen, horses or even humans could power the handle. The screw could also move light granular material such as ashes or sand. This is one of the oldest devices known for lifting water and is still used today in small-scale hydroelectric installations. The main advantage of the Archimedes screw is that it can tolerate large amounts of debris without breaking down. Even fish can be lifted with the water and remain unharmed. Compound Pulley - Pulleys are wheels with grooves along which a rope or chain can be fitted. A person pulling at one end of the rope or chain can lift a load attached to the other end. The pulley wheel supports the load, easing the lifting work. Archimedes invented a compound pulley that uses two or more pulleys to move a load. An input driver wheel is connected with a rope or chain to a follower pulley. When this follower is connected with a rope to yet another following pulley, it becomes the driver for that follower. Archimedes demonstrated how the system can move very heavy loads by using it to lift a three-masted ship out of a harbor. Compound pulleys are in widespread use today to lift heavy loads such as engines from a vehicle body. Iron Hand - The iron hand, also called the Archimedes claw, was a weapon designed by Archimedes to defend Syracuse from attack from the Roman Empire’s fleet in 213 B.C. It consisted of a huge lever. At one end was a grappling hook, or the claw. The claw was maneuvered to grasp the bow of an approaching ship, lift the ship out of the water, then drop it onto the water or onto nearby rocks. The ship's stern would be flooded and the unfortunate crew would be thrown out of the vessel in many directions. Integral Calculus - Integral calculus -- a mathematical theory that derives the areas and volumes of spaces and the relationships between variables such as speed, distance and time -- remains one of Archimedes greatest accomplishments. He calculated areas of figures by breaking them up into a number of tiny rectangles and adding them up together to give a total. Today, this process is called integration and forms the basis of advanced mathematics.
@persebra
@persebra 3 жыл бұрын
If you say so...
@MyMojo13
@MyMojo13 3 жыл бұрын
@@persebra 👁️ say so...
@jzthompson9598
@jzthompson9598 3 жыл бұрын
@@persebra Wow. Deep.
@REDMAN-X
@REDMAN-X 3 жыл бұрын
Ετσι Ακριβως ειναι!
@noneinparticular2338
@noneinparticular2338 3 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏
@dw2369
@dw2369 2 жыл бұрын
I was amazed at not only the image but the difference between the xrays taken from years past to current day, I mean how astounding.
@cameronmurtagh9977
@cameronmurtagh9977 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that the oracle was mentioned in relations to part of the cycles - has any work been done to match the oracle locations and the cycles? Might be worth pursuing
@fluffnstuph85
@fluffnstuph85 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating. Enthralling lecture. Excellent work by all those involved. We oftentimes think of our historical predecessors as brutish when, in fact, the opposite is probably closer to the truth.
@thatisme3thatisme38
@thatisme3thatisme38 2 жыл бұрын
Can we build pyramids today like the cheops one for example? Maybe but it would be extremely tough and require maybe international effort and resources. The alignment and precision is better than we can do today even. The cuts...on basalt and other hard rocks are amazing and based on experts better than we can do today. So yeah we had more advanced civilizations before. Wasnt the Greeks and Egyptians but before them.
@HansDunkelberg1
@HansDunkelberg1 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatisme3thatisme38 No, we cannot build pyramids like the one of Cheops, today - but not because we weren't able to. We could. We simply do not _want,_ any more.
@thatisme3thatisme38
@thatisme3thatisme38 2 жыл бұрын
@@HansDunkelberg1 you making 2 contradictory statements.first you say we cannot then you say we simply do not want :) anyway it's not my opinion on this. many scientists have weighed in and it's virtually impossible to accomplish with modern technology.
@HansDunkelberg1
@HansDunkelberg1 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatisme3thatisme38 I mean that we cannot because we do not want. That's not a contradiction. Do those scientists mean that what would be impossible to accomplish with modern technology is the precision of the mutual alignment of the stone blocks? The narrowness of the gaps between the stones? It might be impossible to finance an imitation of this accuracy even today, after the emergence of 3-D printing and similar techniques based on grinding, as long as you use naturally grown rock. Nevertheless, the blocks of the pyramids probably consist of concrete cast in situ. On such a basis, you certainly could achieve the same accuracy, today.
@thatisme3thatisme38
@thatisme3thatisme38 2 жыл бұрын
@@HansDunkelberg1 the precision cutting. The size of the granite blocks supporting the kings room . Positioning them without cracking them. The precision alignment that even now be hard to do the whole base is cut out of bedrock btw. It is a very long list.
@21gioni
@21gioni 2 жыл бұрын
Your description of the gear with the pin is precise. And that gearing system has been used in gearing often in the industrial revolution for machines to speed up and to slow down mechanical work. A slot is used to engage a gear and disengage a gear. It can have the effect where it increases the ratio slowing down the whole full turn but only at a specified time and can in fact cause it to jump a set number of teeth as a correction method either to advance a calculated time or the reverse. Who made it? I can think of a number of possibilities.
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 2 жыл бұрын
What are the possibilities
@21gioni
@21gioni 2 жыл бұрын
@@GuinessOriginal I was just saying when I consider a story passed down through the ages in my family about a book of wisdom that supposedly contains designs and diagrams of machines and how to make them. My family came from around the Syracuse area, the story goes the book was taken during some raids and now are kept in the Royal Tower of London.
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 2 жыл бұрын
@@21gioni ok, but what are the possibilities you can think of?
@21gioni
@21gioni 2 жыл бұрын
@@GuinessOriginal Persian, Egyptian, and a less obvious one is the region where the magi come from. The magi was well known to have to influence on many cultures. Well known for the practice of powerful magic. There’s also one particular group that existed in the region of the lands between Egypt and Sini desert who exercised mind powers and the ability to conjure spirits that would pass on information on how to make machines. What is important to understand is metallurgy and its origins. Metallurgy was known as dark arts of mystical origins. The Romans where also known to have intricate machines and the art of cutting and polishing metals was used by Israelites and Persians alike. Then you have the ancients who practised Gnostic teachings whose teachings go as far back as creation getting a mention in the book of Genesis. If you have the ability to make a sword then you have the knowledge and skills of produce such an instrument. As for understanding the movement of the Stella objects, the Magi often referred to as the wise men. They are responsible for Astrology not astronomy. Three things to understand Astrology was important for predicting the future events with accuracy. The magi the secret black art of magic. Knowledge or Gnosis now know a Gnosticism. Astronomy is a break off from Astrology that occurred around 2000 years ago. All these have their origins in Zoroastrian religious practice. Then you have Buddhist teachings that have it origins in modern day Afganistan that spread to India and China. Now China was a powerful nation and there practiced astrology was also rather advanced. Possibly their mathematical calculations were used. Their artisans were known to be advanced in skills. They were advanced in metallurgy too. If you combined the skills of these nations and the needs to be able to predict events that measured with accurate results mystical events like omens good and bad it would have been necessary to construct such a divine device. So there’s many possibilities maybe a combination of knowledge to make this mechanism.
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 2 жыл бұрын
@@21gioni aha, so hocus pocus then, got ya
@patrickbrownrigg1058
@patrickbrownrigg1058 2 жыл бұрын
Do the fragments indicate any wear and tear marks at those high friction points? How often had it been used? Any indication at what position the dials may have been set at the time of the wreck occurring? Cool
@tommynikon2283
@tommynikon2283 2 жыл бұрын
The COMPLEXITY of the device compounded by it's period of manufacture= GENIUS. And begs the question.....HOW was it made? CONCEIVED? Or, how long did it take to build?
@guypehaim1080
@guypehaim1080 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone considered the metallurgy of the device. Possibly when certain alloys were developed could more pinpoint the date of creation of the device.
@c_money8080
@c_money8080 2 жыл бұрын
🤔 I'm wondering that as well.
@amandarios448
@amandarios448 2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe they have other examples that are comparable, know what I mean? The only reason we can kinda guess when a sword was made is because we have seen other swords very similar that we for sure do know the age/style of.
@garyschultz7768
@garyschultz7768 2 жыл бұрын
a good question ... i googled it & got a lot of information but NOTHING on what kind of metal was used... you'd think that the metal used would be analyzed early on ....
@theresawood8220
@theresawood8220 2 жыл бұрын
Would you measure this by degrading radioactivity?
@archytas3854
@archytas3854 2 жыл бұрын
Isotope analysis should show the mine area, but not the manufacturing site. Copper and tin from diverse areas were premium goods.
@feltongailey8987
@feltongailey8987 2 жыл бұрын
I am just fascinated by the creation of the physical gears themselves considering the time they were fashioned.
@paulhill182
@paulhill182 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent... both enjoyable and informative.
@cactusp00p
@cactusp00p 2 жыл бұрын
I am too stupid to ever understand a fraction of the ingenuity of these dated mechanics. How are these people so smart? Truly incredible.
@stephenbrooklyn7945
@stephenbrooklyn7945 Жыл бұрын
I believe humans are losing intellect compared to these people
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