The Anxious Generation Goes to College with Jonathan Haidt | Ep 15

[@1sergejs]

"People are very stupid as individuals." Very true, but people are also very stupid in groups. Couple of years ago we had a live demonstration in the pandemic. The only setting where people are not stupid is indeed in open discussions.

[@shortminute]

When my 13 year son asked for a flip phone, we immediately went out and got him a flip phone. He’s 14 now and he’s not anxious nor seeking an identity. He still plays video games, and isn’t perfect but he’s out in the world more than his peers. In fact he’s getting a job this Summer and eager to get his learners license. I’m not sure if it’s him or the fact that he doesn’t have a smart phone. I asked him why he wanted a flip phone he said, “ I care about my mental health and I don’t want mental illness. “

[@robyost6079]

And a phone-based childhood becomes a phone-based adolescence and a phone-based adulthood. Inability to concentrate for more than a few seconds at a time.... texting while driving... phone in the morning, phone at night, phone every waking hour....

[@launchpad310]

College from 2000-04 was Sooooo much fun and I learned a lot!

[@anarchist_parable]

Growing up millennial was still all about socializing. We grew up outside and we were teenagers whose social capital was entirely dependent on human interaction: who you were dating, who wore the same shirt to school as you, who invited you to a party. When phones came out we were all about other people so they were just a tool to call your friends and tell them where the party was. The internet was on the one family computer at home. You were considered a loser if you added people that you didn't know to your MySpace. Even the things I looked up online were social: dance moves, song lyrics, facts about bands to impress my friends with. We made fun of people with early iPhones and the term "troll" came from "basement troll" because anyone who spent too much time online was a loser who would live in their mom's basement. We didn't WANT to be online all the time, we wanted to go to the mall.

[@poetryinmotion8112]

This is so true....

[@truthsayer999]

we are living very differently than we were evolved to live.

[@donlee3701]

To the host - can you tell me the ratio of the time you speak and Haidt speak? Is that the ratio you want? I would have wanted to hear more what Haidt had to say.

[@saracorbin1152]

I went to college 80-84. I don't remember very much anxiety. Then again, I don't remember that much of anything else. ;)

[@anarchist_parable]

I also just remembered how our Instagrams were almost entirely food pictures and like occasional blurry bar picks of us and our girls 😂. There was no aesthetic we just wanted people to know we had friends.

[@karenmorris674]

Suggestion: For John to work on not interupting as frequently as he did in this post. I found his interupting to be distracting from the points Haidt was trying to make and highlighting.

[@lucydoe1334]

Thank you both.

[@LenandlarSingh1979]

A lot of the social media things come from society. Interesting talk.

[@m.talley1660]

Mr Haidt describing how social networks have devolved seems to be yet another form of platform decay. Been getting my head around the usual traits of shifts in the design of who is served by for example by search or commerce platforms. When the basis becomes about retention or selling. - I'll describe it as being like a race to the bottom by baiting and switching.

[@sailboat1921]

I just noticed that you may want to check the spelling of the title (I say this as a humble person who often spells things wrong).

[@jonathangilmore3193]

It’s a convincing argument or claim. My question is whether there’s been an attempt to devise a means by which the claim or findings can be tested for their alleged causality? Thus far, it’s an argument, which is “epidemiological” in nature, and it’s too important to leave there.

[@ragged_claws_scuttling]

But a convincing argument, or judgement of any system or “a priori relation” of phenomena exists in any rational, or metaphysical, or at least epistemological contradiction to an abstract and empirical concept such as being, or to be, or to occur IN the alleged causality itself or OF the alleged causality itself.

[@konstantinosstavropoulos3605]

good

[@StrongbyLee]

I find a lot in the younger generation have had more exposure to the world through social media, for better or worse. Religion also serves as a strong coping strategy, so when tragedy strikes, we can chalk it up to "God's will". I feel the pendulum has swung too far in the opposite direction.

[@stevenhanson6057]

From Class of ‘72. Students looked like 8th Graders. Now some College students act like 12 year olds. Look at photos from 1900 and High School students look 30.

[@sailboat1921]

John Tomasi, we could have used you in plant biology!

[@moozerk1264]

The interviewer loves to hear himself talk rather than letting the person being interviewed speak. He CONSTANTLY interrupts him. It is very annoying.

[@spicole2937]

At the expense of trades

[@spicole2937]

Give men due process stpp calling predators stop drugging them for not sitting still like good little girls

[@BlackJar72]

All the "decide who you will be" non-sense! In the end you are who you are, and nothing more can or should be said. When I was a student I wanted to earn credentials to make a living, and if were back in that situation again, I'd want it even more; none of the airy-fairy "identity" stuff -- and some very individualistic generation were also among the most successful as a whole, individualism if fundamental to post-enlightenment western society and has served us well, not something to just abandon.