The Apple IIe on a Card

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[@LGR]

Always enjoy seeing these alternate system possibilities on classic Macs. Been messing with an x86 DOS compatibility card recently myself! Also: with enough bacon and bullets, I have no doubt all five of us would survive the trek to Oregon 😁

[@xavierkun1]

Probably you end like in American Dad xD

[@cessposter]

Pro tip: it's the 90s man!! Let's take dad's car!!!

[@grasstails9737]

hi

[@clcwqhd]

Bacon is essential

[@pewdspersonaldronefromthef5546]

386 likes

[@spunkmire2664]

"Nice wood grain on the wagon!" said LGR. "You have typhoid." said Dr. Mix

[@catfish552]

LGR keeping everyone alive by making sandwiches.

[@thegardenofeatin5965]

Techmoan buys a dashcam for the wagon.

[@Oncampus2k]

“WELCOME to another river crossing... thing...” - - - LGR

[@BertGrink]

Meanwhile, LMNC was busy building a synthesizer from sticks, straw and spit

[@csabasanta5696]

I believe in this particular version you also can visit thrift shops to equip your party

[@Doctormix]

Wow! Awesome to be in your 1848 party 😁❤️👍🙌

[@grasstails9737]

hi

[@livelongandprosper70]

luv Doctor Mix :O)

[@pivkaaa]

did you guys make it into 1849? :)

[@anotheruntitledchannel]

Hi

[@LOOKMUMNOCOMPUTER]

Hahaha I would be more than happy being in that party 😂. Amazing!!! 1848 wouldn’t know what hit em!!

[@grasstails9737]

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[@livelongandprosper70]

your the wee guy that looks like Harry Enfield's long lost son right ?

[@alexfinns6162]

@LOOK MUM NO COMPUTER lol

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[@CrippleX89]

As soon as he mentioned you in the video I wondered if you’d pop up in the comments, and sure enough!

[@JeremyLeePotocki]

6:06 Techmoan have died of dysentery. Oh eck!! LGR has a broken arm. Dr Mix has typhoid LMNC has a snakebite. Eight-Bit has a broken leg.

[@lordofthecats6397]

Thanks, I was wondering who would be the one to die of dysentery.

[@SegaSaturnSubs]

*flippin' eck!!

[@IanDarley]

....and Nostalgia Nerd was very very disappointed

[@summerlaverdure]

of course techmoan died of dysentery, he shits himself over every little negative thing anyway

[@jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot4171]

Probably ended up drinking water sourced downhill from the graveyard again!

[@greciasoleble]

whoa it's incredible how customizable and upgradable the early apple computers were, the total opposite of the current apple. very illustrative video.

[@nickwallette6201]

Because you could install one card? Ever hear of Thunderbolt..? ;-) Technically they're far more expandable today.

[@jendib]

@@nickwallette6201 No they are definitely not :)

[@benjaminbodewig3572]

@@jendib The Mac Pros are, you can Upgrade anything from CPU to graphics card.

[@NaokisRC]

@@jendib They are expandable but they're also not. You cabt change the cpu or ram sure, but storage, gpus and other stuff can easily go through the thunderbolt ports. And yes it is expensive but the majority of people who use macs arent using them for gaming or windows, so if you want those, go build a pc

[@gajbooks]

@@NaokisRC The RAM is the only thing which is disappointing that they stopped allowing upgrades for. Their purchase upgrade prices for RAM and disk have and always will be criminally expensive compared to what they should be.

[@dragonskunkstudio7582]

11:35 Wow from take apart with no tools required to fighting for the right to fix.

[@alextirrellRI]

Woz was really big on making things easy to work on with the Apple II series. Jobs less so, though he left Apple early on in the Mac's life, and Apple made most Macs very easy to work on, until Steve came back and the creep towards less access began.

[@moth.monster]

@uni blab Liberals? We're not talking politics here. Go to bed, Grandpa.

[@pentagen]

The earliest Macs were difficult, if not impossible, to upgrade in any meaningful way. That was by design. Steve Jobs wanted the Macintosh to be a toaster, which is to say, something that "just worked" and never needed to be tinkered with. It wasn't until the Macintosh Plus that Apple offered a Mac that could be upgraded internally, and I believe only the RAM could be upgraded. (Unless we count the Macintosh XL, but that was a re-branded Lisa II with a Mac operating system running in emulation, so it's usually ignored.) Though, it should be noted that an earlier Mac could be upgraded to a Macintosh Plus by removing the original guts and replacing them with a Macintosh Plus upgrade kit sold by Apple.

[@ultrametric9317]

@@pentagen Yes, they were far, FAR behind the x86 world. By 1992 Apple was a company with no future and nothing to offer. How they managed to survive was itself a minor miracle.

[@thatLukeKneller]

@@ultrametric9317 You can thank Microsoft :)

[@tyttuut]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: You, LGR, Techmoan, and any other vintage computing KZbinrs should make a movie where you're all in an Oregon Trail type environment, with vintage computers tied in somehow.

[@jennifercruz8142]

Hear hear

[@UNSCPILOT]

Oregan Trail + Terminator, and that version of skynet is weirdly vulnerable to vintage tech

[@JetFalcon710]

@@UNSCPILOT I guess it's been modernized so much it doesn't seem to worry about what vintage tech can do, or possibly doesn't even know it exists

[@Mekelaina]

them filming in costume a recreation of an Oregon trail game

[@superviewer]

A reality show. Or a game about reality show contestants running into a few challenges. It could be the next collaboration of between Ron Gilbert and Gary Winnick in the style of Thimbleweed Park :D

[@PlayerOneStart]

Well done! Though I am a bit disappointed I didn't find out which one of you died of dysentery. :) A former teacher of mine gave me his old LC II when he retired. He had a bunch of old Apple II software with it, along with that breakout cable and a 5.25 inch floppy drive. Until this video, I had no idea that card was responsible for running all of the Apple II software on that machine. Thanks!

[@mrfluffytailthethird]

My school was using appleIIs all the way into 1996 when I was in first grade computer class That math game brought back a flood of memories

[@CommodoreFan64]

My middle school/ school system in general was doing the same thing all the way up till around 95/96 while having a slow transition to a combo of lower end Mac's, IBM PS/2 DOS/3.11 desktops, and just a couple years later adding in DELL, and Gateway Windows 95/98 machines till I got out in 2000.

[@CCscott]

Math Munchers 🤓

[@DennisKovacich]

I graduated from high school in 1979 barely knowing what a computer was! Now get off my lawn!

[@alexdhall]

My elementary school continued to use Apple IIgs's up until 1997/98. Learned how to type on them as well. I also had a chance to use an Macintosh LC II with an Apple II card. I vaguely remember it having trouble reading some Apple II disks on occasion. Instead of launching the program on the disk it would prompt the user to format the disk...

[@UpcycleElectronics]

Ha, you were on my booger'd keyboard from '91 in 1st grade playing the same thing. With similar fond memories of Math Munchers....which I never would have remembered on my own :-)

[@TheH454]

Well, looks like the price of these cards just doubled.🤑

[@Mastergeko4]

Well crap.

[@perpetualcollapse]

P E R H A P S

[@D3MONFIEND]

CAPITALISM HO!

[@Blood-PawWerewolf]

demand is up prices are up! Pretty much how it works!

[@dennisp.2147]

They were already ridiculous...

[@misterkite]

Now you need to go one level deeper. There was a Z80 card for the Apple II which was actually Microsoft's biggest money-maker for a time.

[@rusolarusso8372]

the obscure but essential at the time, SoftCard.

[@booboo699254]

@@rusolarusso8372 Not obscure at all, it was very high-profile and even today it's easily sourced. So popular that there were tons of Taiwan clones... also available on eBay today. There are even modern-day reinterpretations of the SoftCard.

[@PhateShepherd]

Or even deeper still... I had the PCPI Appli-Card. It was a faster Z80 card that had its own RAM, and instead of stopping the 6502, it was left running to handle IO for the Z80.

[@bobblum5973]

Great to have if you want to run CP/M on your Apple ][ or ][+. I don't have the Z-80 Softcard itself, but I do have a brochure from this company called MicroSoft (spelled that way!).

[@gregsmith9183]

@@bobblum5973 My home PC at the time was a Apple IIe Clone.. It had the Apple Soft Z80 CP/M card. It was a wierd computer as It could run most apple software. Except Appleworks. The most popular productivitty software title on the Apple II series. So we just used Apple Dos 3.3, VisiCalc and Wordstar insteead under CP/M.

[@TheRealMentat001]

I used to work for a school district's IT back in the 90's. I remember configuring a load of LC and Performa systems with these cards. I though that was SO cool! A couple years later we setup some Performa 6100s with the DOS Compatibility Card so the teachers could access the grading system that sat on a Novell NetWare server. UGH, what a nightmare THAT was!

[@tyttuut]

6:08 I hereby demand that all of you get together and make a short movie/video where you all survive in an Oregon Trail inspired world, but with obsolete tech somehow involved.

[@thegardenofeatin5965]

Or just do a stream of them playing the game.

[@WATCHINGTHEWATCHERS]

Netflix will do it.

[@only257]

The Tyttuutface cool idea😈

[@enigma776]

Only if they bring Stuart Ashen along.

[@needforsuv]

back to the year 1970, except there are no cars, only vintage tech and electricity, no running water - post apocalyse

[@gearfriedtheswmas]

LGR is not happy you didn't have Duke along.

[@ziggybowman6875]

Or Anyone.

[@ivuldivul]

LGR HAS DIED OF DYSENTERY.

[@raven4k998]

@@ivuldivul it happens suck it up

I wondered where the recent traffic on my music came from and now I see this video. Thanks again David, always appreciate my music being used! And a very interesting video, from times when Apple made actually revolutionary computers.

[@binface9]

Poor Anders E. Jensen, not being included on your expedition.

[@Bob3519]

His family didn't immigrate to the US. So no Jensen fore fathers to visit "back to the future".

[@twocvbloke]

And yet Techmoan's in the north west of England, so also not a US migrant... :P

[@binface9]

@@twocvbloke Indeed. Look Mum No Computer is also English - from down South.

[@Halfpipesaur]

better for him, he don't have to die of dysentery

[@dbeaumontresident847]

Thanks for the upload David, Great vid as always!

[@musicmanfelipe]

My elementary school computer lab had this exact same setup, the Mac LCII with the Apple II cards. Thanks for bringing back those memories.

[@UselessDuckCompany]

You are trending in canada!

[@unnamedchannel1237]

I am trending in Antarctica

[@stewiegriffin6503]

I read "Apple LIE on card". Must reduce watching "Rossmanm Repair Shop" channel.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

To be fair, Louis would like that system. Easily user rpairable!

[@WolfiiDog13]

@@HappyBeezerStudios To be fair, Louis is the actual lie

[@smellincoffee]

What do you mean?

[@WolfiiDog13]

@@smellincoffee yes

[@colepdx187]

me too. PR#6

[@JanaBuvari]

Great video! I love when you show and walk us through schematics!

[@aswallace88]

In fourth grade, we used Apple IIe's. I can still remember playing Oregon Trail using a 5 1/4 floppy. My mind was blown when I got to junior high and we started using Windows XP machines. It was quite a jarring leap.

[@JeremyBlant]

It was amazing to see this. Remember going to Computer city in ATX and seeing these cards installed in a Quadra with a full page display. Seemed like a great idea especially for schools that had a lot of money invested in apple II and wanted to upgrade to macs. Thank you for creating this

[@thaddeusmcgrath]

I enjoyed the information on the Apple 2 but really want to know who died first of dysentery playing the Oregon Trail in your party?

[@OnAir2650]

Yes, a good question!

[@supercomputer0448]

Frank broke his leg 3 times then died

[@australia-hungary2762]

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[@thaddeusmcgrath]

@@australia-hungary2762 Hello kind person. I really have two black cats, and both as interesting as the picture.

[@rz2374]

@@australia-hungary2762 is your name a reference to countryballs?

[@docmaynard1934]

AppleWorks does recognize the year 2019. However you need a version of ProDOS that also does, as it looks for ProDOS to interrupt the dates.

[@datashed]

As always, I'll stay around for the next episode! A new 8-Bit Guy episode is *always* cause for celebration 'round these parts, and this one does not disappoint!

[@OldAussieAds]

My family had an LC II and our next door neighbour had an original LC with Apple IIe card. I was always a bit envious that they had the Apple IIe card as it meant being able to bring school work home and vice versa. But we had a Video Spigot card taking up that slot (in retrospect - that was awesome as it allowed us to connect our VCR and even games consoles to the Mac. I got over it pretty quickly when our school upgraded to Macs. Then I forgot about the Apple II for many years.

[@scottfirman]

I learned how to code on an Apple 2c. It was at the school I cleaned. I used my lunch hour and breaks to use the lessons that were with the computer on how computers work and how to write code.

[@wobblyrampack9655]

Awesome! Always fascinating to learn how people got into coding! :)

[@Jesse__H]

I had no idea that LC meant Low Cost. Our family's second computer after the Macintosh was the LCII, and I always vaguely wondered if it stood for anything!

[@jonc4403]

It was frequently referred to as the "Little Crappy" because it was actually a horribly compromised machine, far slower than it should have been, because it was running a 32 bit processor on a 16 bit data bus. lowendmac.com/2014/mac-lc-a-compromised-mac/ The LC II repeated the mistake. The LC III was actually a really good machine, as was the 68040 LC 475/Quadra 605 (which was essentially the same computer in slightly different plastics).

[@OldAussieAds]

@@jonc4403 Knowing what I know now, I agree with you. But as a teen in the early 90s, my parents upgrading from a Mac Plus to an LCII, man it was like all my Christmases came at once. It might have been a bit hobbled, but it had colour, and stacks of the new games like Lemmings, Sim City 2000, Space Quest and Vette. Those were truly great days for me.

[@pulloutski01]

These vids always cheer me up when I'm not feeling good. Best content on KZbin right here

[@tonyblox]

Ok, I just love the music in this video for some reason. Also, would watch anything that you upload, keep it up!!!

[@darktetsuya]

I remember seeing the Apple II series in grade school! (the IIGS upgrade blew my mind as a kid.... I remember there WAS a special demo disk that taught you how to use the mouse?! but aside from that not really sure how many games used the mouse.) so I was definitely excited to hear about this episode.... seems like a neat piece of tech! (and that hidden mode, had to wonder if apple was experimenting with backward compatibility back then?!)

[@Maverick7r]

Man, this video brings back memories I didn't even know I had, lol!! I grew up using Apple IIe machines in elementary school and early middle school and then Apple IIgs machines in late middle school. I forgot all about Number Muncher!! I remember that game and some other game about walking around a virtual house and having to turn off lights and electronic items to save energy... don't remember the name of that though unfortunately. I might just have to grab a Apple IIe emulator to mess with now, hahaha!! Great video as usual, love your videos!! Keep up the great work!!! :)

[@Chaos89P]

You might want to go for an Apple LC emulator, if those exist. AppleWin does fine for just standard ][e emulation.

[@Maverick7r]

@@Chaos89P Thanks, I will have to look into that!! I have so many older Mac laptops and such at home that my wife would shoot me if I bought more, lol!! :)

[@Rabbit14]

I've been looking for some of these 90's macs and the LC was the one I couldn't remember that I do desperately want!

[@MacinMindSoftware]

Thank you for trying out all the equipment I've had here for years that I've never tried. I have the LC II, the Color Classic, IIe Card, joystick floppy cable, and 5.25 drive but I was never a IIe user and have no software nor nostalgic ties to it. I went from C-64 to Macintosh XL to LC and was aware of it in the day and now finally get to see it working. Got me curious that it worked with later models and found it should also work with my Quadra 605!

[@ReedHarston]

Cool! I don’t know how I’d never heard of this. My dad picked up lots of old Apple from schools over the years. I guess this answers how Apple handled the Apple II to Mac transition. I knew they handled the PowerPC and Intel transitions well, but until today I didn’t know how they had handled this transition.

[@williamdrum9899]

Must have been a lot harder since the early Macs were big-endian and the Apple II never was

[@OldAussieAds]

@@williamdrum9899 The early Macs had very little educational software. You didn’t start seeings Macs in schools where I lived until the late 80s.

[@Zadster]

Thumbs-up for the Blakes 7 t-shirt. Period correct for the Apple IIe!

[@d2factotum]

Albeit not *country* correct--the IIe was never really a thing in British schools, we had the BBC micro instead.

[@Zadster]

@@d2factotum Not in the early days. In 1980 our (British) school had an Apple II Europlus. Number of pupils: 1800. Number of computers: 1. Number of people who knew how to operate it: 0.5 (me, 11 years old). The BBC Micro wasn't around for a few more years.

[@d2factotum]

I was at school in that timeframe (born 1970) and none of the schools I attended had any sort of computers until I was in middle school (1 BBC micro). Upper school had an entire computer lab which was full of RM 480Zs and one RM Nimbus.

[@VauxhallViva1975]

Still my favourite classic Sci-Fi series after all this time. Classic Dr. Who is a close 2nd. Avon had some brilliant lines. Sadly, we lost Paul Darrow recently.... :(

[@Izavos]

Fantastic I was a Brazilian user of "Apple // e" at the end of the 80's and 90's. How many good memories. Thank you very much for your good work.

[@daverome8855]

I have absolutely no clue about technology or computers... but I bet I'm not the only one that keeps returning and loves your videos!

[@Kazuo1G]

The Amiga DID, however, have a PC card. RetroManCave covered this in one of his videos.

[@oldtwinsna8347]

Had a 386sx bridgeboard in mine, dedicated harddrive, and even a combo graphics/sound card that had 16-bit audio and 1280x1024 graphics mode that outshined the native amiga modes.

[@hustonovich]

2:04 I remember playing Number Munchers on an Apple II as early as Kindergarten back in 1994.

[@Twin_Flyer]

Back in '85 (when I was only 21!) when I first started at what is still my employer, a school district, K-12, we had dozens of Apple //e machines. Super simple to service, and they rarely had a true component failure. usually it was cleaning the floppy drive head, a little light oil and setting the RPM of the disc. Now and then all the chips on the main board had to pushed back into their socket. Went to IBM's in the early 90's with the PC, PC XT and PC AT. I still have an Apple ??e with a Sider External HD (20 meg i think) buried in storage.

[@bartdunbar5108]

As a proud Apple 2 c and Franklin ace 500 owner I love when you do Apple videos. I always learn so much. Thank you

[@ChrisPollitt]

We had a similar card for our IBM PC compatible computer. It required Appe II disk drives to work.

[@TrueBDaddy]

It's really interesting that this video comes out right after I randomly watch the old Mac vs apple IIgs video where this card is mentioned

[@Miakel]

When something like that happens: a wizard did it.

[@brpadington]

I remember in our computer lab at school we had tons of Apple IIe machines. In the back of the class there was a lone IIGS sitting there and I ended up having to use it one day and I was blown away by the sound and the colors that one had. I used it for a while until other kids noticed and started fighting to use it.

[@hrayz]

In our computer lab we had one Apple ||gs, and only the top student at the time was allowed to use it. (Gave some incentive to get good grades.)

[@brpadington]

@@hrayz awesome idea

[@willpreston6881]

Yes! I have one, but no working LC to pair it with. Very glad to see it covered and in action.

[@Althemor]

"And then I have two ProDOS partitions" You must construct additional pylons!

[@VAPORVHS]

Woah! my dad had an Apple II with everything but sadly somehow it had been thrown out, I never got to use it but it is a pretty cool computer

[@afloyd4976]

PolyMono - Keys Who throws away perfectly good computer equipment?

[@NethTech]

@@afloyd4976 plenty of people do it all the time for various reasons. It's not til years later they regret that decision. It's what makes preservation so important

[@VAPORVHS]

A Floyd no idea

[@donwald3436]

Let me guess, the woman threw it out.

[@mountain177]

@@afloyd4976 I traded my apple 2e platinum for a Cadillac. Had no money in the computer. And hey, I got a Cadillac for it.

[@seaningram3285]

The Apple ][e's were used in my school back in the early 1980s. We had games like Echo Lake, Golf, and a simulator called "Rendezvous" in which you would dock the Space Shuttle to a Space Station using keypresses. At home we had an Apple ][ GS with the 3.5" Disk Drive and a dot matrix printer with the tractor-drive for the holes in the printer paper. We used AppleWorks for Wordprocessing, Database and Spreadsheet.

[@randallsmith2521]

I used an LC with one of these in Middle School, though it should be noted that only one computer in the school had it. It wasn't until I was in 8th grade (1992) that the school I went to got anything newer than the Apple IIgs. We had a lab of 25 LCII's with a IIci as the server and a IIsi as the teacher's computer. It still blows my mind just how long the IIe sold for. Of course, ever since I realized just how nice the IIgs was for its time, I've wondered what would have happened if the IIgs had become more popular.

[@SomeMorganSomewhere]

If I were to guess I'd say the "split" RAM is how the LC II talks to the Apple II core and vice-versa, probably mainly used for the emulated disks?

[@nilswegner2881]

Yup not only the emulated disks but also the graphics emulation works through this dual port ram. At least that's how it works on a commodore bridge board, which is a pc emulation card for the Amiga bigbox computers

[@Xondar11223344]

Hey David, love the Blake's 7 shirt! It's a weird coincidence since my wife and I were supposed to watch an episode of Blake's 7 and I turned this video on instead.

[@alecgrolimond1678]

I like your videos and watch them from time to time as I started in the Sinclair area.

[@BlackTomorrowMusic]

Wow, this brings back memories. My middle and high school used the Apple IIe even into the late 90s. Ours had the green monochrome screen, though.

[@chrisforkan2090]

This guy needs to have a tv show, maybe for his restorations

[@jacksongresh8786]

You left out technology connections on the Oregon trail party

[@15743_Hertz]

I still have my IIe with disk drives and 128K RAM. In the past, I had a Vectorio which was a Japanese clone with built-in 80 column card and disk drives. I remember fondly picking up a bare-board from Akihabara, populating it with parts from the dealers under the train station there and the many hours of debugging the clone keyboard, power supply and a converted TV set to display graphics. I had a good friend that really understood the Apple's ins and outs who supplied me with good data and schematics back in the time that was pre-internet and nearly pre-modem BBS software. This was truly the dark ages of computing connectivity!

[@donmoore7785]

Informative video. I graduated high school in '79, headed off to engineering school. My recollection is I had only a vague knowledge that there may be personal computers people somewhere were using. I had excellent math and science teachers, but I don't believe they even mentioned PCs. We were forced in our senior year to create an interface from an 8085 to a teletype machine, and I remember thinking that the teletype seemed archaic. However, the most advanced thing we used for a display were the 7 segment displays on the SDK kit. It wasn't until I worked on a flight test for GE in '86 that I first used a PC - a Mac. We used VAX mainframes for all our work at the office. I know most of this if off topic - one comment you made set me thinking. When I went into education in 92', the school had a bunch of IIEs and we converted to LCII and LCIII.

[@JMcMillen]

Aw man. I was hoping this was some kind of Apple IIe single board computer. Still a cool add on though.

[@Havanacuba1985]

Me too 😥

[@lwilton]

I suspect the second half the memory on that card was a memory buffer to the Mac side, used as a graphics buffer and the like.

[@marklehman9858]

Actually called - Dual Port Memory for memory swapping.

[@bobblum5973]

David, thank you for yet another enjoyable video. You're making me think about digging out my old Apple ][+ to see if it still works. It's so old the cover doesn't say "Plus", it's an original ][ that the store upgraded with the floating point Applesoft BASIC ROMs from the integer BASIC ones. I never had Apple Disk ][ drives, used cassette tapes until I got a good deal on two Franklin clone drives. I've never wanted to part with it, had it about 41 years now, one owner.

[@jackwest3282]

oregon trail really brings back memories of my childhood playing math games and oregon trail at my elementary school on the Apple IIe as a kid. I loved playing the ultima games though I did so on my friends mac/apple IIe and a little latter in the late 80s on my C64. I loved the personal computers of the 80s they were so much fun and really got me into computing as a kid and later as an adult too. The C64 and Amiga systems will always have a special place in my heart, though I did love my SNES too, there was just something special about those early days of computer gaming that really made it a different kind of experience from console gaming at the time. DOS games on those first IBM compatible PC systems with Cyrix or Intel Pentium processors were amazing and so full of creativity and ingenuity. Thanks for providing a place for all us old computer/gaming nerds to relive some of those fond memories of our youth!

[@AllenKll]

I love your videos. Bu it drives me nuts that you run your Commodore 128 in C64 mode for the opening. For the love of god, led the green screen live!

[@vinnysgphone]

Love surprises like this on a Sunday night excellent way to close out my weekend!

[@mrjotz]

Look who's very close to reaching 1 Million subscribers! That's very cool! Keep up the great work!

[@CraigRodmellMusic]

Thanks for filming and posting. Interesting as usual! Big thumbs up.

[@spidermcgavenport8767]

Poor LGR Oregon trail is very unforgiving. Breaking a leg or dieing from dysentery...

[@wojiaobill]

Me: it's 2019 Apple IIe: no it's not. Me: it's 2019 Apple IIe: no it's not. Me: alright goddamn it, it's 1989!

[@AFFI909]

The first apple electronics ever was sold for 666,66 , the logo represents the forbidden fruit of the garden of eden (genesis:bible) with a bite out of it to mock god. we can probably agree that technology and associated social apps have destroyed the social fabrics of how society works, riped social interactions appart, mostly young people (but also "adults") live for others opinion, acknowledgement, status and so on. sadly enough, on most bus stops, train stations almost everyone is just glued to their phone screen. Seen the same at restaurants, couples going out together for dinner & paying atention to their phones letting it distract a nice moment

[@markday3145]

Actually, that was: Me: It's 1919 Apple IIe: no it's not It assumed that all years were 19xx.

[@drunkenmaster666]

I would've put in dec. 31. 1999 and let it run for a day just to see what would happen.

[@miaccordaion]

Dear The 8-Bit Guy, Each of your videos are a masterpiece. Thank you so much for your contents :

[@sexycavetroll2788]

Great video. I was born in 84 so these computers are only in my memory at the very start. I did use these computers in grade school and of course I played the heck outta the trail. It's great seeing people keeping the spirit of this stuff alive

[@visu7135]

Thank you for saving me from random KZbin recommendations!!!

[@dhgodzilla1]

Darn, I was hoping to see some Oregon Trail! Could have seen LGR die of Dysentery lol

[@robert_roland63]

I admit that I never saw this video before and find it fascinating. Also got a kick out of your Blake’s 7 t-shirt. 👍

[@kmitses]

Thanks for the Vid ! It’s kinda feels throw back to the ibookguy days .

[@channelzero2252]

Any chance of making a "Planet X2" port for the Apple II? Different note: The game I have played most on an Apple IIe was "Prince Of Persia"

[@danielmantione]

It might be technically feasible for the Apple IIe. For the original Apple II, things look less favourable: The default 4KB RAM will never be enough, when expanded to 48KB, you still have less RAM than the C64, but perhaps with hard effort, you could squeeze it in 48K.

[@Mastergeko4]

Time to quickly order one before they explode in more popularity

[@dennisp.2147]

Too late, they've been expensive for ten years.

[@moojuiceuk]

Reminds me of some tricks Acorn did back in the day. In the 80s, the BBC micro had a TUBE port to enable a second processor - but it didn't have to be another 6502. Various slave CPUs were designed, such as a Zilog Z80, National 32016, Intel 80186 and ultimately the very first ARM processor. Then in the 90s and there were expansion Podule cards with a 386 + RAM for PC emulation and finally on the RiscPC a 486 and Cyrix586 options for emulating a PC (DOS or Windows) and could either multitask on the RISC OS desktop to work single tasking, making use of the host RiscPC hardware. Fast forward to today and the venerable BBC Micro now has the option of plugging in a Raspberry Pi Zero onto the TUBE port emulating various CPUs, although way faster than before, allowing different games / OS's to be run for fun and amusement.

[@XalphYT]

Great video! You knocked it out of the park with this one.

[@afloyd4976]

Atari could have done this with the Atari 8-bit line on the Atari ST/TT/Falcon030.

[@richard1113]

Should have!

[@seanc2482]

I would think it could have been technically possible-- at a cost, but it seems to me Tramiel didn't care about Atari's technology and brought over his own. He was more interested in beating Commodore to market against their new system. It also seemed like everyone was let go after he came to Atari. Just about everything they had in the pipeline (including the first option to have the Amiga) was ignored or cancelled. Now they did release the Atari 8bit in the form of the XE gaming console, so I guess he did use some Atari tech after the release of the ST, but by the time it came out, it was so dated, that hardly anyone cared.

[@puffpuffin1]

ST XFormer was eventually released which allowed ST users to emulate an 8-bit. I don't remember when it was released. It was also software based, so I don't think it was very fast. Reality though was that a 65XE was $99. Developing a card or add-on like the Supercharger would cost quite a bit of $$$ and resources. In the end, Atari would have probably needed to charge MORE than $99 to make up for the development costs. Simply not worth it. Note that the big difference with Apple IIs is that they still cost hundreds of dollars more than the $250 card as mentioned.

[@Grunchy005]

I had a supercharger on the 2600, every single game on that system was utterly amazing.

[@richard1113]

@@puffpuffin1 Yea, good points. I knew the guy who wrote XFormer. Really smart guy. Great to have a conversation with.

[@Markimark151]

Our school had Apple IIe card in the Macintosh LC to run old educational games like Number Munchers, and those old Brøderbund games!

[@ababab28]

Can confirm Donkey Kong used joystick on Apple II. The worse quality the joystick the more authentic!!

[@JDW-]

Great video, and holy cow... You're almost at 1 million subscribers!

[@Celcius1]

Nice piece of hardware, just a curious thought are you going to explore the IIgs in the near future? And my honest opinion the IIgs should have been the successor in the apple line not the Mac!

[@The8BitGuy]

I agree it should have. But I don't plan on doing any videos about it in the near future.

[@ThetaReactor]

I often wonder if the IIgs line could have really competed with the IBM PC if it had been given the proper support. It certainly could have run with the ST and Amiga. Alas, The Woz's engineering prowess was no match for the intoxicating bouquet of Jobs's own farts.

[@RedHairdo]

@@ThetaReactor Probably not because of IBM PC pricing. It's always the main reason that platform took off. (And now all Macs are IBM PCs since 2006, but without the reason to be expensive anymore.) I don't think the IIgs should have been the successor simply because, without the Mac, the IIgs wouldn't have been what it became (GUI, the software library etc.). The many things that made the IIgs so good originated on Mac, which pioneered and took many blows in its stead. Still, I do think the IIgs is one of the coolest computers of all time.

[@RedHairdo]

Speaking of the IIgs, and as a follow-up to this video, one could consider making a video on Apple's official IIgs emulator called GUS. The backstory is very similar to this video regarding the Apple IIe, except it's about the Apple IIgs.

[@evknucklehead]

@@RedHairdo While GUS was developed in-house by some Apple engineers, it wasn't officially supported by Apple. Apparently it was given to some schools in an unofficial capacity, but Apple was very secretive about this at the time.

[@GigTube]

do a video about how the Apple III had no built-in fans and they actually recommended you DROP the computer to re-seat cards, lol

[@Chriva]

I just now realized the meaning of your intro. Never paid attention to it before. You "load" the episode just like a game disk. *mind blown* lol

[@chupathingy5862]

The sound of components crunching in to place, that sound never gets old...

[@DinobotTM2]

Waiting for the Amiga video, and for a video on the other Sinclair computers.

[@arongooch]

Amiga!!

[@Grunchy005]

The one I always lusted for was Atari 400 (800!) and Star Raiders. I never got one! I also always wanted an Atari ST but they went broke before I could afford one.

[@dronepilotflyby9481]

Amiga was to take over the world! AOC types existed even back then. The home computer market in 83 left few on store shelves at Christmas time. I could only find the Atari 600XL. Awesome as it could run all the 2600 game cartridges and you could program in true IBM basic.

[@TheBowersj]

In theory, theres nothing stopping the community from making their own C64 card for the Amiga right?

[@JeremyLevi]

Other than having to source chips from a real 64 to make it, no, nothing really stopping you. Commodore could have done it back then if they wanted to. Now you could do it all in an FPGA, but that's sort of cheating and I think you'd at least want an option for a real SID if nothing else.

[@TheCornouiller]

Knowledge and skills may be.

[@KarriKoivusalo]

If only DTV64 chips were still produced... :(

[@JeremyLevi]

@@KarriKoivusalo There is the FPGA64 core available for free for personal use and licenseable for commercial use. www.syntiac.com/fpga64.html

[@summerWTFE]

Wouldn’t it be possible to reverse engineer the c64 Chips?

[@AndyAKratz]

Loved the vid. We had these systems when I was in grade school being the IIc, IIc+, IIe and II-GS. I knew I couldn't run the GS software on the older units and the II-GS didn't even have the 5.25" floppy for me to even try. I didn't even know this card existed. That is some really cool stuff right there!

[@bennetfox]

Whoa! You're making videos again? Excellent!

[@jagfanbb]

Number Munchers!!!! Be still my heart!!!

[@adamhenry6793]

There's a TG16 bootleg with Apple II titles on it!

[@madmax2069]

where is this ?

[@almostliterally593]

Adam Henry turbografx-16? What ?? Link pls

[@adamhenry6793]

@@madmax2069 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGiciXSGiNdsi7M

[@adamhenry6793]

@@almostliterally593 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGiciXSGiNdsi7M

[@Marc-pu1wm]

I still have my very same Apple IIGS from when I was a kid, it has all original components still working with keyboard & mouse and monitor, also both 5 1/4" and 3 1/2" disc drives. I also have the original Apple Ram Expansion card with it. It was actually my first computer that was my own in my room, even though we had several family computers in the den before that and funny enough they were all DOS and Windows computers, the IIGS was the only Apple computer I ever had as a kid. I was definitely more familiar with DOS.

[@CyrusB1]

man, that pluggable motherboard coming out of the back of the Mac blew my mind. I'll have to look around and see how that works. David, I sure appreciate all the work you do on making the diagrams for yours videos. They make a huge difference in understanding what you're talking about. Great teacher! :) Thanks for the video!

[@Matt_Hutchison]

the mac minis still have this design , it all slides out at the back

[@lauscho]

"Nope, not Y2K compliant so let's just put in a date" *enters the day before my birth date* ah yeah

[@AmyraCarter]

Come to think of it, I recall the Macs in the computer lab of one of the schools I attended years back all having this card in them. However, I think they only had the Apple Works software for it.

[@benharyo]

Thank you very much. A well-scripted video which brings back old memories of the Apple IIe 🙏

[@foch3]

I still remember seeing those LC 2's at grade school and loved em. I still think it's one of the best looking designs of all time.